Conference back40::soapbox

    
    Significant Other. Usually, a live-in companion to whom one
    is not married, but generally applies to all non-spousal
    relationships.
    
    -b
    

Isn't the term `significant other' like a bit clinically clean, sterile,
etc?  Like the exact opposite of what you'd expect the relationship to
be?  Weird.

Chris.

why do they NEVER have cars with manual transmissions for rent at US airports??



andreas.

>why do they NEVER have cars with manual transmissions for rent at US airports??

although I don't like automatics as a rule, this was a great relief to
me last time I visited the 'States, as I otherwise end up trying to wind
the window down when I attempt to change gear!

Chris.

    .3
    
    I hate that, too.  I like renting a 1300cc Vauxhall Astra that could
    blow the doors off 'Murican rental cars twice its size.

    'cause they don't want to have to replace the transmissions before they
    sell off the cars.

>    Significant Other. Usually, a live-in companion to whom one
>    is not married, but generally applies to all non-spousal
>    relationships.

Like parent-child, sibling, boss-worker?

    .1
    
    aha!
    
    a UK equivalent is "'er indoors" which is a firm fave of mine (but not
    of hers!)
    
    ric

.4, chris, it wouldn't be so much trouble if only you drove on the right side
of the road...



andreas.

>.4, chris, it wouldn't be so much trouble if only you drove on the right side
>of the road...

ah, well,... on second thoughts, I won't incriminate myself, 'coz I'm
a dead safe driver, me.

Chris.

    Could somebody please provide pointer as to a list of the acronyms in
    this file and what they stand for?  Thanks.
    
    -Jack

    and there was a list of smiley's too, i recall
    
    ric

    
    RE: .2 
    
    > Isn't the term `significant other' like a bit clinically clean, sterile,
    
    Yes, that's the trademark of all PC terms...
    
                                                        Bob H.

    .13
    
    gah! it's PC-derived!!! *barf* i shall not use it ...
    
    ric

    
    
    RE: .14
    
    
    Each to his or her own....
    
    
    :*)
    

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    Here is a encyclopedia of faces!
    
#-)     submitter partied all night
#:-)	:-) done by someone with sort of matted hair
#:-o	"Oh, nooooooo!" (a la Mr. Bill)
%-)  	person submitting has been staring at the terminal for 36 hours;
	submitter is cross-eyed;
	submitter with long bangs
%-^     submitter is Picasso
%*}     submitter is very drunk
'-)	Submitter only has a left eye, which is closed
':-)    submitter accidentally shaved off one of his eyebrows this morning
(-)     submitter needing a haircut
(-:     submitter is Don Ellis from Tektronix;
	submitter is left-handed
(-E:    submitter wears bifocals
(:)-)   submitter likes to scuba dive
(:-(	unsmiley frowning
(:-)	smiley big-face
(:I	egghead
)8-)  	scuba smiley big-face
):-( 	unsmiley big-face
):-)	smiley big-face
*-(  	Cyclops got poked in the eye
*:o)    submitter is a Bozo
*<|:-)	submitter is Santa Claus (Ho Ho Ho)
+-(:-)  Submitter is the pope
+:-)	smiley priest
+<:-)   "Peace be upon you, my children..."
,-}	wry and winking
-:-)    submitter sports a mohawk and admires Mr. T
->=:-)X	Zippy the Pinhead
.-)	Submitter has one eye
.-(	Always should wear safety classes.
 -(     Especially in the laser burn-in room.
.-]	one-eyed smilely
0-)	smiley cyclops (scuba diver?);
	submitter is an arc-welder;
	submitter wearing scuba mask
0:-)	angel
3:o[	net.pets
8 :-I	net.unix-wizards
 /
8 ]     submitter is ponochio
8-)	smiley swimmer;
	submitter wears glasses
	wide-eyed look
8:-)	glasses on forehead;
	submitter is a little girl
8:]     normal smiling face except that submitter is a gorilla
8*)	smile with glasses and a moustache
8^      submitter is a chicken
:%)%    submitter has acne
:*)     drunk smiling face, for those of us who like get intoxicated
	before or while reading netnews;
	smile with moustache
:-	prolog programmer
:-!	smiley bland face
:-#	Respondent's lips are sealed;
	braces
:-#|	smiley face with bushy mustache
:-$	smiley face with it's mouth wired shut
:-%	Respondent has beard.
	smiley banker
:-&	smiley which is tongue-tied
:-'|    submitter has a cold
:-(	Submitter has read too many 'smiley' articles.;
	boo hoo;
	un-smiley;
	sad face, 'that comment makes me sad [mad]'
:-(*)   submitter is getting sick of most recent netnews articles and is 
	about to vomit
:-)	ha ha;
	the normal smiling face, appended to a sentence or an article 
	means 'this is a joke' or 'this is supposed to make you laugh'
:-)'    submitter tends to drool
:-)-{8  submitter is a big girl 
:-)8    submitter is well dressed
:-*	smiley after eating something bitter;
	submitter just ate a sour pickle
8-*	(Just ate a hot pepper)
:-/	lefty undecided smiley
:-0	smiley orator
:-1	smiley bland face
:-6	smiley after eating something sour
:-7	smiley after a wry statement
:-8(	condescending stare
:-9	smiley licking it's lips
:-:	mutant smiley
:-<	real sad smiley
:-=)	older smiley with mustache
:->	hey hey;
	y.a.s.;
	normal smiling face with deformed lips, same as above except person 
	who submitted it has problems with their lips
:-?	smilely smoking a pipe
:-@	Respondent's beard has permanent wave *or* was drawn by Picasso.;
	smiley face screaming
:-D	Submitter talks too much;
	Wider happy face
:-I	hmm
:-O	uh oh
:-P	nyah nyah
:-Q	smoker
:-X	bow tie
:-[	un-smiley blockhead;
	biting criticism smiling face, ditto for criticism
:-\	undecided smiley;
	popeye smiling face, for people who look like popeye
:-]	smiley blockhead;
	biting sarcasm smiling face, used when sarcasm is intended, since 
	we cannot inflect our voice over the net
:-`	smiley spitting out its chewing tobacco
:-a	lefty smilely touching tongue to nose
:-b	left-pointing tongue smiley
:-c	bummed out smiley
:-d	lefty smiley razzing you
:-e	disappointed smiley
:-i	semi-smiley
:-j	left smiling smilely
:-k	beats me, looks like something, tho.
:-l	y. a. s.
:-o	Submitter is shocked;
	smiley singing national anthem;
	"Oh, nooooooo!" (a la Mr. Bill)
:-p	smiley sticking its tongue out (at you!)
:-q	smiley trying to touch its tongue to its nose
:-s	smiley after a BIZARRE comment
:-t	cross smiley
:-v	talking head smiley
:-x	"my lips are sealed" smiley
:-z	y.a.c.s.
:-{	mustache;
	smiley variation on a theme
:-{)    normal smiling face with a moustache, same as #1 except submitter 
	has moustache
:-{~	submitter has read too many of the toilet paper articles previous 
	to lunch
:-|	"have an ordinary day" smiley;
	no expression face, 'that comment doesn't phase me'
:-}	beard;
	normal smiling face with pretty lips, same as #1 except person that 
	submitted it is wearing lipstick or some other lip appearance 
	improving device
:-}     respondent wears lipstick
::-)    respondent wears glasses
:<	midget unsmiley
:<|     submitter attends an Ivy League school
:=)	Submitter has two noses
:>	midget smiley
:>)     submitter has a big nose
:^(  	submitter has had his nose put out of joint.  Useful for replying to 
	flames.
:^)	smiley with pointy nose (righty)
:n)	smiley with funny-looking right nose
:u)	smiley with funny-looking left nose
:v)	left-pointing nose smiley
:~)     smiling face needs a nosejob, no explanation necessary
;-(     sad face gets his lights punched out, sad or mad and got beat up, 
	or 'that makes me so mad that if I ever see you I'll punch your 
	lights out'
;-)	winking smiley;
	smiling face gets his lights punched out (could be pirate smiling 
	face??), submitter is a practical joker who played one too 
	many and got beat up
;-\     popeye gets his lights punched out
;-|     no expression face gets his lights punched out, says nothing but 
	still gets beat up
<:I	dunce
<|-(=	Submitter is chinese and doesn't like this article.
<|-)=	Submitter is chinese.	(sorry bout that)
=:-#}   smiley punk with a mustache....
=:-(  	(real punk rockers don't smile)
=:-)	smiley punk-rocker;
	submitter is a hosehead
/;-)    submitter has one big thick cockeyed eyebrow
====O
\:-(	Poster is a Scottish Highland Bagpiper!
>:-)	devil
>:-<	mad
>:-I	net.startrek
>;-)	devilish wink
>w      (nose-thumbing gesture)
@-)   	person submitting is Cyclops
@-(     "Ulysses!  Bring me Ulysses!"
@:I	turban
@=	Flame about nuclear war, power or weapons follows (mushroom cloud) 
B-)	horn-rims
B-| 	person submitting is wearing cheap sunglasses
C=:-)   chef
C=>8*)  a devilish chef with glasses and a moustache
E-:-I	net.ham-radio
O |-)	net.religion
O-)	Megaton Man, on patrol!
P-)  	person submitting is getting fresh
X-(	net.suicide
[:-)	Submitter is listening to walkman thingy.
[:|]    submitter is a robot (or other appropriate AI project)
g-)	smiley with ponce-nez glasses
o-)	submitter is a cyclops
o-<:-{{{	submitter is santa
	smiley invisible man
{(:-)	Submitter is wearing toupee.
{:-)	smiley with its hair parted in the middle
|-)	Submitter is asleep (boredom);
	hee hee;
	Same as :-) but poster is Oriental
|-(	asleep with nightmares
|-D	ho ho
|-P	yuk
}(:-(	Submitter, wearing toupee in wind.
}:-)	above in an updraft
}:^#})  mega-smiley:  updrafted bushy-mustached pointy nosed smiley 
	with a double-chin
~~:-(	net.flame
~==	Flame follows (supposed to be a lit match or candle)
:------------)    (submitter is a big liar)
						
  ___
 /   \
| RIP |
|_____|	Submitter has recently died
 

why are soft drinks in the US always served with *tons* of ice?




andreas.

    The ice's volume means that less of the actual product need be
    dispensed.  Because ice is less expensive to manufacture than the drink
    is to blend, the seller makes a higher profit.

    Ohh wow! Maaaan!!! Like this is outta ban man!!:)  Why an automatic vs
    a standard?? Thats cause you can read a map, read a sign, roll your own
    and not crack up that rental jobbie.:) Sides, you gonna look real dumb
    trying to get that one across to the boss person who is going to get
    really wierd, upset, and bullie-ragged when they hear you blew off your
    meetings cause them Merican dudes drive funny, and drive on the wrong
    side of the road and all that rott!:) 
    
    But it could be worse..:) There could be one of them funny johnny
    thingies with no toilet/watercloset seat on it, In the middle of the 
    bathroom that you stick your beer and ice into. And not know what 
    the hell it is!!:)
    
    

    .19
    
    !??!???!?!?!
    
    hey RAUH you're on 'roids!
    
    8^)
    
    ric

why do they always sell such *huge* portions of meals on interstate restaurants?




andreas.

    .20 No mon. Not on royds, no caffine, no primal screeming whist doing
    heavy metal music and squats!:)
    

Thought I may as well dig out my original intro to smileys (circa 1986)

Chris.

"SMILEY FACES PROTOCOL"
 =====================

As most people probably know by now, the "smiley-face" symbol is a Unix (tm)
standard mark, meaning that something in supposed to be taken in a not
entirely serious way ...  Net.announce.newusers* says that omitting this can
cause great offence to certain people, as I found out recently.
However, what if we extend the idea? ...

        :-)     Funny.

        :->     Very funny.

        :-]     Very funny indeed.

        :-l     Didn't really get the joke

        :-(     Andreas' jokes.

        :-<     The one about the motorway. ( A not at all funny joke
                                              written by Andreas.
                                              There's a copy of it at the
                                              end of this letter. )

        :-[     The one about the daisy-chain? ( have you heard this
                                                 joke of Mike's? It's
                                                 awful! It's also
                                                 at the end of the letter)
        :-o     Shock and surprise.

        :-@     Extremely odd.

        :-~     Confusion.

        :-*     Exploding mouth.

        :-|     Two small mouths.

        :-**    Two exploding mouths.

        :-||    Four very odd mouths.

        |->     Chinese program.   (Note pipe symbol as opposed to colon)

        :-'     Chewing toffee.

        :-O     Very suprised. ( or racist impression )

        :=O     Zulu warrior.

        :+O     Cannibal.

        :~O     Boxer.

        :*O     Aargh, there's a spider on my nose!

        : O     Aargh, where's my nose?!

        :-D     Chuckler.

        o-O     Cyclops.

        )-(     Angry man.

         -)     Man in a blindfold.

         =O     Zulu in a blindfold.

        )=O     Angry Zulu.

        ***     Man who put blindfold on Zulu.

        8-)     Jon. ( of Garfield fame )

        8-(     Not so happy Jon.

        8-*     Jon forgot Garfield's coffee.

        8=O     Zulu in glasses.

         =O     Zulu in shades.

Don't labour the point, Stan! - Burma

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THE MOTORWAY JOKE  (by Andreas)
===============================

Policeman stops an Irishman on the Motorway:

- OK, Nigel Mansell, what's the hurry.
- I'm sorry officer, but I'm late for a lecture.
- Oh, who's giving that then?
- My missus.
- Do you know you were doing 93mph?
- That's impossible, I haven't been out an hour.
- And another thing, before you turned onto the motorway you were driving
  on the pavement - why?
- I've no road tax.
- Have you any previous motoring convictions?
- Yes: I got fined 500 pounds for parking.
- 500 pounds for parking?
- Yes - I parked on top of another car.
- Where are you going?
- Southall           <-- I'm Famous !! - @
- What make of car is this?
- Vauxhall
- What's that on the back seat?
- Holdall
- What's in the boot?
- ..er..  nothing.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THE DAISY CHAIN JOKE  ( by Mike )
====================

Q)      How do you make a daisy chain?
A)      Well, you take it up to the top of a hill, and ... er ...
                - Mike.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And now ...  The moment you've all been waiting for ...
The explanation of the "daisy-chain" joke!
It's actually the second part of a two-joke set, and I assumed (seemingly
wrongly from the reactions the joke's been getting), that everyone already
knew the first part.  However ...  In its entirety ...  Here it is:

Q)      How do you make a sausage roll?
A)      You take it up to the top of a hill, and push it down!

Q)      How do you make a daisy chain?
A)      Well, you take it up to the top of a hill, and ... er ...

See?  Told you it was brilliant, didn't I? - Mike.        'intelligence'?
                                       /-------------------^
Well, rather than insult the intellignce of the readers, (if anyone reads this
stuff other than us), I thought it best not to explain every line individually
in minute detail,  but to outline the schema behind the joke.  Obviously I was
incorrect in my assumption that the  users of this machine in general, and you
in particular would be able to make the neccesary logical leap between the two
jokes above.  This place is, after all, only a University - Mike.

Well, it's really quite simple.  The one about the sausage roll is a
straightforward pun, which I assume requires no explaination.  The point is,
the the person telling the jokes presumably assumes that the formula for
making a sausage roll will work equally well when applied to a daisy chain,
and only realises this is not the case after starting to give the answer.
It's not so funny when you have to explain it in minute detail, is it? - Mike.

It wasn't all that funny in the first place, though, was it? - SS
Yes it frogging was! - Mike.
Ha Ha! A good joke at last! -- PJ
Pardon?
Ha Ha! A good joke at last! -- PJ
Good on yer, PJ!  It's good to see that someone has some taste around here!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    .23

        :->  

.19> Thats cause you can read a map, read a sign, roll your own 

...relax, sip a coffee, listen to the sound, and just ride into the sunset...


the comfort of cruising on an american interstate is unmatched!



andreas.

    .25 I enjoy the challange of a stick shift!:O) Got a 5 speed Toyota
    truck. Goes lickety split down them New England frost heaved roads.:)
    Neet thing about a stick vs the automatic.... winter.... :))))
    

re: .0

SO = Salad Onion

Significant Other is a term stolen from Psychology, where it means any
significant other person in your life, including your spouse, your children,
your parents and siblings, and others in whom you have significant emotional
investment.

Once stolen, it has been used as a "modern" or "hip" way of saying "paramour."

/john

    some questions :
    
    1) are the beaches around LA as umm scenic as protrayed on "Baywatch"?
    
    2) who/what is a Newt Gingrich?
    
    3) do your politicians get up to lots of sex scandals except they don't
       get reported and if not why not?
    
    ric
    

    
    1.  Kaliph beaches do indeed feature curves.
    2.  Newt is a strident politico turned celebrity, who has changed
       the US party landscape.  He evokes strong pro/con feelings.
    3.  Oh sure, Clinton, Packwood, etc.  Actually, America is closing
       the kinkiness gap with Europe.  These things take time.
    
     bb

    re: .28
    
    Well I'm sorry, but I'm too old at 34 to have a "boyfriend".
    "Paramour" sounds stupid in public.
    "Partner" makes it sound like we have a business relationship
    (although I use this from time to time when "SO" renders a blank
    look.
    "The gentleman I live with." I also sometimes use.
    "SO" or "Significant Other" is easy, although I'd occasionally
    like to punctuate it with, "and don't look at me like I'm the root
    cause of all the world's problem because I'm not married.  I don't
    want to get married and my life is my own business so keep your nose
    out of it."  but I never do. :-)
    
    Mary-Michael

    >Well I'm sorry, but I'm too old at 34 to have a "boyfriend".
    >"Paramour" sounds stupid in public.
    >"Partner" makes it sound like we have a business relationship
    >(although I use this from time to time when "SO" renders a blank
    >look.
    
     I'm rather partial to the term <fornicate>buddy. ;-)

    
    
    
    MARK!
    

    re: .32
    
    Oh yeah, I can see my Catholic mother now introducing Keith 
    that way to her friends......shame I'd never thought of it sooner.
    
    

    >Well I'm sorry, but I'm too old at 34 to have a "boyfriend".
    
    i'm sure you could if you wanted to 8^)
    
    mind you conversation with people much younger than oneself is
    sometimes difficult!
    
    ric

    
    one hopes a 34 year old would have a myn rather than a boi.

    re: .37
    
    One's "myn" will be 46 tomorrow, thank you very much.

    
    Mary, like those older men, do you.

    re: .39
    
    Yeah, ya don't hav'ta talk down to 'em, doncha' know. :-) :-)
    
    Not much anyway....... ;-)

    How come you have to be so old in the US to buy a drink in a
    restaurant?
    
    Guns and cars seemed easy, getting legless, that was hard.  Especially
    after trying to get my guiness warmed up and with a proper guiness head
    on it.  Shouldn't have bothered, except ordering "Old Grandad" got me
    the oddest looks.
    
    R. Michael. &

>    Guns and cars seemed easy, getting legless, that was hard.

Did you try lying down on the railroad tracks?

Every time I wanted to buy some beer in the US I had to produce my
passport to show that I was the legal age, even though I'm like
really old, and show it.

Chris.

    
    
    
    Gee, I never get carded anymore.....
    
    
    Terrie
    

I got carded a couple weeks ago... probably the last time that'll ever happen.

    
    I got carded at Scuppers last October. Seeing as I hadn't been carded
    all week in the hotel, I didn't have my passport with me  :<<<
    
    POL@who_drank_orange_juice_instead
    
    P.S. I got carded in Vail a few years back. The guy at the door refused
    to believe that my passport was genuine and that I was as old as was
    stated. I mean it had my US immigration stamp in it!!! This passport
    got me into the country, yet it won't get me into this bar!!!! 

re .46

It's possible that Colorado has a law similar to the one in Massachusetts.

The Massachusetts law makes the bar or liquor store owner responsible if the
identification he is shown turns out to be fake, unless it appears to be a
Massachusetts driver's licence.  No other identification is accepted.

The law makes alcohol purchase essentially impossible for young-looking
people from out of state.

/john

    Grow a beard, they'll never ask you how old you are.

    
    > <<< Note 429.48 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Indeedy Do Da Day" >>>
    
    >Grow a beard, they'll never ask you how old you are.
    
    But my youthful look is my best feature!!!!!
    
    As to out of state not being served. Am I glad I never got carded on
    the way back to Mz_Debs, or we'd have stayed sober the whole evening as
    I only had my faithful passport with me, which has a picture of me at 22
    looking about 12!!!!
    
    POL.

    
    .48
    
    So Glenn, how old are you 8^)?

    So much for my stupid little theory. 8-\
    
    

If Glenn has a beard, is Hildegarde a bearded lady?  Is Onondaga a bearded baby?

    Too bad I don't have a personality called Iris.

No time like the present, they say.

    Just for a bearded Iris?

Give it a shot. What have you got to lose?

    No, no, the Lord would see through such a cheap trick.

Blame it on Ned.

    A bearded Iris it is then!
    
    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula/Hildegard/Nigel/Boutros Boutros/Leslie/Shareena/
    Onondaga/Vidiator/Iris

re: new sig

Good to see Vidiator is still with us. There was some doubt as we hadn't
seen the full signature since before the Toronto bash.

    
    	I knew a kid who had to shave his beard off for 8th-grade grad-
    	uation ... so he was 13-14 at the time!!
    

How old in Onondaga?  Don't American Indians have very little facial hair?

I'd be interested to know about where the popular US misconception
of British food being so terrible originated?  Myself, I like a good
roast, stew, pie, battered cod fillet, sandwich or the myriad adaptations
of imported cuisine.

I've visited the US and the food there didn't seem to be so outstanding,
and, of course, there's the inevitable comment about `those in glass
houses', as, AFAIK, the sole American contribution to world cuisine seems
to be the mass produced carpet burger.

Comments, anyone?

Chris.

    
    >I'd be interested to know about where the popular US misconception
    >of British food being so terrible originated?  Myself, I like a good
    >roast, stew, pie, battered cod fillet, sandwich or the myriad
    >adaptations of imported cuisine.
    
    thank goodness someone brought some notion of cuisine to Britain.

>    thank goodness someone brought some notion of cuisine to Britain.

so what is *your* experience of British food, then?

Chris.

    O.K. How is this one....:) Is 'Benny Hill' really that funny in the
    U.K.?

No... he's dead.

Chris.

    .66
    
    > so what is *your* experience of British food, then?
    
    You didn't ask me, but...  How about a month, ranging over the southern
    half of the country from London to Bristol, Devonshire to the Severn
    Valley.  The kind of food that is called "British cuisine" is some of
    the worst I've had.  Take bangers.  Please.  Does the word "sawdust"
    ring a bell?  Or the British idea of roast beef, a tough and stringy
    joint that would better have been boiled into stew.
    
    On the other hand, the kind of food that is called "British cuisine" is
    some of the best I've had.  I'll take steak-and-kidney pie, for
    example.  Bliss when it's properly made.
    
    British cuisine is, in sum, no different to any other in having
    elements that foreigners find repulsive and elements that foreigners
    can find ravishing.

>    the worst I've had.  Take bangers.  Please.  Does the word "sawdust"
>    ring a bell?  Or the British idea of roast beef, a tough and stringy
>    joint that would better have been boiled into stew.
    
hmm, I've encountered these monstrosities before.  Some guy I knew who
worked in Sainsbury's butchers dept was heard to comment that they'd put
all the stuff in the sausages that they couldn't get away with putting
in the mince.  Hence I avoid the `economy' sausages like the plague,
but they're at the extreme end of the spectrum.  Cumberland sausages
are quite nice.

The overcooked roast beef is an unfortunate example of a large number
of people who have no idea how to cook.  When cooked properly, it should
be similar to a medium-rare quality steak.  Fortunately my parents cook
a decent roast, so I'm often 'round there to scrounge meals off them...

Chris.

    Ah, yes, mince.  I find that the best way to deal with mince is to make
    it into a good Indian keema.

Mince is okay in a hot chilli, or sheperd's pie.  Some people say it
makes a good bolognaise.  Otherwise, it's pretty nasty stuff...

Chris.

 bolognaise?

Bologna + mayonnaise.  On white bread.  With a maraschino cherry.

    >bolognaise?
    
     one presumes he means a meat sauce like that traditional one from 
    bologna.

	gee, doc, ya think so?  ;>

A bit.  The meat/tomato/loads_of_other_stuff_I_can't_remember sauce
you eat with spaghetti.  I don't like it as it generally results in
tomato stains all over my shirt.

Chris.

I believe mince is Brit for ground beef.  Not to be confused with mincemeat.

    .78
    
    Er, um...  The recipe I use for mincemeat contains mince.  Hence the
    name, I believe.

Mincemeat, as in the stuff they put in those funny little pies people
eat at Christmas, only contains some fruit, nuts and spices.  I believe
that at some time in the past it included meat of some description,
though.

Mince, on the other hand, refers to minced beef.  Economy mince usually
refers to minced cow, and various things they found on the floor...

Chris.

    .80
    
    See .79.  I use actual ground beef in the mincemeat I make for those
    funny little pies.

>    See .79.  I use actual ground beef in the mincemeat I make for those
>    funny little pies.

I did, and was curious.  What is the recipe?  (And more importantly,
what does it taste like?)

Chris.

>>A bit.  The meat/tomato/loads_of_other_stuff_I_can't_remember sauce
>>you eat with spaghetti.  I don't like it as it generally results in
>>tomato stains all over my shirt.

   arrgh. ;>  yes, chris, i knew what you meant.  it's Bolognese.

>   arrgh. ;>  yes, chris, i knew what you meant.  it's Bolognese.

hey, don't hassle me, things often have different names in different
countries, and my dictionary's too far away to reach from where I'm
sitting!  :)

Chris.

    .82
    
    If you seriously want the recipe, I'll upload it from home and mail it
    to you.  It tastes like "mincemeat," pretty much like the kind that
    comes out of tins except that it has rather more body and an overall
    firmer texture.

    .85  ooh er

>    .85  ooh er

Oi!  That's my line.  For the record, `fnarr, kwok', etc.

Chris.

    
    I ordered a pizza once in London, and they put corn on it.
    
    Of course, that's not nearly as bad as the pizza in Paris that
    had egg on it!
    

    
    i et british food for a couple of weeks at decpahhk once back
    in '89 and also sampled some of the pies on offer at sweeney
    & todds.
    
    

    How can you possibly call the stuff they serve up in DECpark food??? In
    all the years I was there I didn't eat lunch once. The pub was the only
    place to go. If you wanted to even attempt to stomach DECpark food, you
    had to go to the pub and drink at least 10 pints of stella. That caused
    a few problems with the taste and hence the look of it didn't bother
    you.

The food they serve at DeathPark is a veritable banquet compared
to the slop dished out at WLO...

Chris.

    I also think Brit food get criticised most unfairly. You go into most
    pubs or reasonably priced restaurants,and you`ll get a fair deal meal
    at a decent price.
    
    A lot of people go on about how great French food is. Rubbish. Fair
    enough,if you spend 50 pounds on a meal in France,then yes,you`ll no
    doubt get very good food. And I should hope so at that price.
    
    You try spending 4 pounds in France and you`d be aghast at the utter
    crap you`d get. Whereas you spend 4 pounds in Britain,and chances are
    you`d get a decent steak and kidney pud or scampi in a basket. 
    
    

    You can also get slimy fish with greasy chips all wrapped up
    in yesterday's newspaper, which in the meantime is soaking wet with
    grease as well. 
    
    

    
    Mind you, polonaise is not a Warszawian sauce.

In mayonnaise from County Mayo?

    Why do many English kids wear "Raiders" and "NY Jets" and er,"Dolphins"
    or what not American football/baseball gear??
    
    I often feel like going up to them and saying "Oh you saw the NY Jets
    last Tuesday,did you? They played a treat didn`t they?" 
    
    "Oh,er...I`ve never actually stepped outside of Reading,actually".
    
    Plonkers.
    

    What did Benny Hill die of? Old age? A stray bullett from messing
    around with one of them British tarts?:)
    

    I can`t really remember. 
    
    He was a classic English eccentric who although worth millions,lived in
    a small council house. Though I think he had a TV in every room which
    is a bit extravegant.
    
    A bit like Kenneth Williams - who spent his years in a high rise 
    coucil flat writing letters and wanking a lot.
    

    You folks have to pay a tax on the tv's right? Like a license to own
    one. Musta been allot money for a tv in each room.
    
    

    No, you have to pay for a TV License to use one. You only need one
    license for all TVs. It's not expensive either.
    
    TV licenses are what makes our 'routine' better than yours. You see as
    we pay for the license, they do not have as many commericials. 2
    channels don't have commercials at all. 

    Loving Kidney pie like I do, yet haven't the time nor patience to cook
    the Kidney...I would like to know if one can purchase the kidney 
    "pre" prepared?
    
    Just add the steak, en such and eat.
    
    Sin-te-da

Gives a whole new meaning to Morton's Pot Pies.

What is hard about preparing kidneys?  Try using 2 or 3 sheep kidneys rather 
than an ox kidney. Get rid of the membrane on the outside, slice 'em open & 
remove the more obvious icky bits, then chop 'em up.  

Pop them in to brown with a a little oil, a chopped onion, some pepper, & about
3/4 kilo (just over a pound) of chopped gravy beef, or chuck steak (one of 
cheap sinewy cuts). Once brown add a about a half a litre (1 quart?) of beef
stock (tinned beef consomme is OK) and a good sploosh (somewhat more than a
splash) of worsteshire sauce.  Reduce the heat to a simmer, and cook uncovered
'til you start getting really unpleasant looking sludge on the top. The meat is
probably semi-tender about then. Once tender, and the liquid has been reduced,
add a little cornflour and water mix to thicken (or whatever your favourite
thickening agant is). Let the mix cool.  Grab a pie plate and grease it, lob in
a sheet of puff pastry, stick the mix in, stick on another sheet of pastry
(with a few steam-wholes). Pretty up the pastry edges, and stick it in a low
oven till brown.

It's a pie not a pud, but fakes up fairly well.

Chele

The best thing about my friend dave going vegetarian is that when he invites
me over, I don't have to worry that he'll try to feed me snake & pygmy pie
again.

Kidneys are OK - livers however are reeeeeeeepulsive.


Chele

Liver's okay, although I find those mysterious tube things a bit
off putting.  That said, I like sprouts as well...

Chris.

It took me years to make pate - I'd buy the chicken livers, look at them, 
think about it, then feed it to the cat.

Sprouts are cabbages that didn't live right.


Chele
not a Pommie

>It took me years to make pate - I'd buy the chicken livers, look at them, 
>think about it, then feed it to the cat.

I think that's a major problem with preparing meat type things.  Fortunately,
I've come to a compromise, where I let someone else do the cooking and I
do the eating...

Chris.

    
    Blood pudd'n anyone?

    
    I had that at a hotel in Yorkshire for breakfast one morning with a
    huge plate of egg and chips.  It wasn't so bad 8^).

>          <<< Note 429.101 by SNOFS1::DAVISM "Happy Harry Hard On" >>>
>    No, you have to pay for a TV License to use one. You only need one
>    license for all TVs. It's not expensive either.

Not to mention the vans that go around listening for TV sets, for purposes of
catching unlicensed ones.

I almost typed "wouldn't go over too big here", but I changed my mind. It
just MIGHT.

>Not to mention the vans that go around listening for TV sets, for purposes of
>catching unlicensed ones.

they're apparently complete fakes, designed to intimidate people.  I wouldn't
bet my TV licence on that, though!!

Re Black Pudding,

I'd just like to mention that this is one of the world's finest things, along
with miniature pork & apple pies.

Chris.

	is that made from piglets ?

  .114  ;> yeah, piglets and crabapples.

>	is that made from piglets ?

dunno.  More to the point, I don't care, they taste good anyway!

Chris.

    RE: .104
    
    
    Chele,
    
    Thank you very much for sharing your recipe,  It will be used and is
    greatly appreciated.  If there are any small secretes that you
    add, please let me know....
    
    
    Sin-te-da

    Liver is diiiiiiisgusting ! Apart from the fact it takes ages to chew
    and swallow, I think it's 'orrid the way it is made.
    
    Liver and Veal - No way (DOH! this little argument again!!) 

    
    how about some spinach and tofu pies?

>    how about some spinach and tofu pies?

what's that then?  Sounds 'orrible...

Chris.

    How bout spinach, tofu, and liver pies?:)
    

    I like small pork,cheese and pickle pies. Saisbury`s do 3 for 97p.
    

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    what is back 40 apart from the node name.
    
    it was mentioned in the fireworks topic.
    
    sounds like it might be your back paddock or something
    
    
    
    Bill   :^)

    What's a paddock?
    
    :-)
    

    It is an abstract reference to the backyard or other remote piece of
    one's property.  It is also used as a reference to having to travel
    some distance to fetch something..
    
    "I was working out in the back 40 yesterday..." meaning they were
    actually in the side yard of their 8,000 sq. ft. lot.
    
    "I put all my leaves and clipping in the back 40."  meaning they have
    allocated a suitable spot in a remote part of their 8,000 sq. ft. lot
    to practice composting.  
    
    

    Mr_Topaz, one of your meters isn't working.  Not sure which but I know
    one of them isn't.  Do an instrument check and get back to me.  
    
    Fondly,
    
    Moi

    
    He prolly just needs defragging.
    

    Or fragging, perhaps, were this another lifetime in another place.

    Then he'd be a frigging fragger right?
    
    ...Tom

    No Tom,
    
    He'd be frigging fragged! .... I don't know of too many people who
    could handle it more than once, and I suspect that he would not be one
    of them!
    
    :-)
    Dan

    How about a fragged Frigging Fragger :)
    
    ...Tom

    That would probably apply.

    :-)
    Dan

    re: .125
    
    a paddock is a fenced off area of any size on a farm. you might have
    your steers in one paddock and your milkers in another.
    I was out on-site doing an install the ather day and their smallest
    paddock was 1,000 sq acres.
    
    thanks for your replies 8^)
    bill

    Why has the $US been standing strong against the �UK for so long now?
    
    I wish the bloody thing would get weaker... even if it was only for a
    couple of months !!

    
    Hmmm...because the paper they make the pound out of of is worse
           than the paper they make the dollar out of ?

    .138
    
    They make � out of brass, not paper.  Stopped making paper ones years
    ago.

    
    
    that's only the 1 pound  variety...still use paper for all other 
    denominations
    
    Chris
    :)

    .140
    
    Now tell us something we don't know.  :-)

    
    
    
    re .141
    
    
    SEX is better than LOGIC
    
    
    you cannot prove this...but it IS
    
    just as pound coins ARE and pound notes AREN't
    
    Goodnight
    Chris
    :)

    Don't Scottish/Jersey/Manx banks still issue paper pound notes? 
     

>    Don't Scottish/Jersey/Manx banks still issue paper pound notes? 
     
they did for a while after they were phased out of England & Wales, not
sure if they still do though.

Chris.

    
    Yep, you can still get folding pounds from a Scottish Bank. There were
    three Scottish banks producing paper pounds, The Clydesdale, The Bank
    of Scotland and the Royal Bank of Scotland. I'm not sure if all three
    still do to this day. 
    
    For every pound note they print, they have to deposit one pound with 
    the Bank of England. 
    
    POL
    

    
    Then I rest my case m'lud.