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Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:862
Total number of notes:339684

122.0. "Bill of Rights Status Report" by RUSURE::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Wed Nov 30 1994 15:46

    Does anybody have an on-line copy of the Bill of Rights Status Report I
    wrote a few years ago?  The SDML version would be especially nice, but
    the text would be fine too.
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
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122.1HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Wed Nov 30 1994 16:083
    eric,
    
    there are not one, but two Q & A topics in this version of the box.
122.2RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Dec 01 1994 09:1110
    Re .1:
    
    And you think that's enough?
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
122.3HBFDT1::SCHARNBERGSenior KodierwurstThu Dec 01 1994 09:186
    Hands up who's interested in edp's public key fingerprint :-)
    
    (Why don't just post it in those cases *only* where there's a need for
    it ?)
    
    Heiko
122.4PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Dec 01 1994 10:085
	mmmph... me! <waves hands wildly over head>

	28 db e7 is my favorite part.

122.5Practicing good habits maybe?VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Dec 01 1994 10:2711
    > Hands up who's interested in edp's public key fingerprint :-)
    
    I don't GAS about his public key fingerprint, but if I had to guess
    he makes a habit of properly identifing himself at all times,
    irregardless of where he is.  
    

MadMike
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MadMike Maciolek, Dawsonville Georgia USA       [email protected]
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122.6SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIgrep this!Thu Dec 01 1994 11:318
    
    <-----
    
    Just like the <Talk Hard> guy..... huh??
    
    
    :) :)
    
122.7POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingThu Dec 01 1994 12:201
    Oh no, somebody used that word again.
122.8MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalMon Dec 04 1995 16:311
    Karen Saved me
122.9TROOA::COLLINSIn the dead heat of Time...Mon Jan 08 1996 15:576
    
    Interestingly, I came upon Eric's name at this web site, while
    searching on an unrelated matter: 
    
    http://www.umd.umich.edu/~mouser/pol/viol.txt
    
122.10Hits home!GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesFri Feb 09 1996 14:23231
                         Is Your Freedom In Danger?

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                   The Destruction of the Bill of Rights

                            by Jarret Wollstein

                      ISIL EDUCATIONAL PAMPHLET SERIES

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What defines the character of America and makes this country a good place
to live? For over 200 years, our prosperity and liberty were the envy of
much of the world. But our prosperity is inseparable from our liberty. Take
away our freedom of speech, religion and enterprise, and America would be
neither free nor prosperous.

Unique among nations of the modern world, the United States was literally
conceived in liberty. The guiding philosophy of Thomas Jefferson, George
Washington, Benjamin Franklin, George Mason and our other Founding Fathers
was the inalienable rights of the individual. As our Declaration of
Independence states,

     We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
     equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
     unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
     Pursuit of Happiness; and that to secure these rights,
     Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers
     from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of
     government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of
     the People to alter or abolish it.

America's Founders had witnessed horrible demonstrations of the power of
unlimited government: destructive taxation, forcible invasions of homes by
government agents, interference with free trade, government spying on
citizens, corruption and debasement of the legal system, imprisonment and
murder of dissenters, and government destruction of churches. To avoid such
evils in this country, the Constitution and Bill of Rights (the first ten
Amendments) were created, as strict limitations on the power of government.

The Bill of Rights protects our freedom of speech, press, religion, and
assembly. It guarantees our right to keep and bear arms. It prohibits
unreasonable search and seizure. It guarantees due process in a court of
law, a speedy hearing, and trial by jury. It prohibits excessive bail,
fines and punishment. And most important, the Bill of Rights guarantees
that rights not explicitly granted to the government, are reserved to us as
individuals.

Our Founding Fathers believed that to avoid the evils of corrupt and
tyrannical government, the power of government should be limited to
protecting citizens from domestic and foreign aggressors. Government was
regarded as a moral policeman, stopping force and fraud whenever possible,
and otherwise leaving citizens alone to live their lives in peace. Today,
200 years after its passage, the Bill of Rights remains the supreme law of
the land, and neither Congress, nor the Supreme Court, nor the President
have the moral or legal right to ignore it.

Sadly, government now has strayed very far from the original vision of
limited powers. Today there is no aspect of our lives -- public or private
-- that government regards as exempt from its jurisdiction and control.
Government now seizes over half our incomes in taxes; regulates every
aspect of trade and commerce; censors books, movies and art; scrutinizes
our business records and bank accounts; confiscates our guns; taps our
telephones and reads our mail; dictates wages and working conditions;
regulates our sex lives; and imposes fines and imprisonment without due
process of law.

The vision of government as the servant of the people, rather than their
master, has been lost.

Here are some examples of how the Bill of Rights is being destroyed:

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                            Amendment One . . .
              Freedom Of Speech, Press, Religion, and Assembly

In the name of "national security", government employees are being censored
for life. To combat pornography, federal and state governments have
imprisoned musicians, seized the entire contents of bookstores and video
rental outlets, and have even prosecuted museums and art galleries. To
fight drugs, a growing list of communities are enacting curfews and
"anti-loitering" laws. To ensure government control of education, church
schools have been padlocked. There are now over 350 "anti-obscenity" bills
pending in 46 states. Freedom of speech, press, religion, and assembly are
under siege.

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                            Amendment Two . . .
                        Right To Keep and Bear Arms

This right is gradually being destroyed as a growing number of states and
communities enact ever more repressive gun control legislation. In the
summer of 1990 New Jersey made criminals of over 200,000 of its citizens
with the stroke of a pen by banning many popular sporting rifles. As
violent crime grows, U.S. citizens need the means to defend themselves more
than ever, yet we are being legally disarmed.

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                           Amendment Three . . .
                   Quartering Of Troops In Private Homes

The government doesn't quarter troops in our homes, but it does destroy our
privacy by wiretapping our telephones, seizing business records and keeping
extensive files on most citizens.

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                            Amendment Four . . .
              Protection From Unreasonable Search and Seizure

Recent Supreme Court decisions have given the police nearly unlimited power
to search houses, businesses and cars -- in many cases without a warrant.
In Florida, courts have refused to stop police from boarding buses,
blocking exits and searching passengers. RICO laws and "anti-drug" laws
have given government the power to seize all of an individual�s or
company�s assets without indictment or trial. Strip-searching persons
arrested for even minor traffic violations is becoming more and more
common. Courts and legislatures now consider virtually any government
search and seizure "reasonable".

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                            Amendment Five . . .
                        Due Process and Grand Juries

The Founding Fathers believed that no one should be indicted without a
hearing. Today the IRS can seize your bank account, the Coast Guard can
take your boat, and the welfare authorities can take away your children,
without any hearing or indictment by a Grand Jury. Increasingly,
fundamental legal restraints on the power of government agencies are being
abandoned.

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                            Amendment Six . . .
                Right To A Speedy Trial And Court Procedures

The United States has adopted the totalitarian practice of imprisoning
defendants for long periods before trial. As a growing list of personal
behavior and technical errors are criminalized, the court system is being
impossibly overloaded. It now takes years before most serious cases ever
get to trial. The growing power of prosecutors, and government seizure of
attorneys' fees, are destroying the ability of those accused to defend
themselves.

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                           Amendment Seven . . .
                           Right To Trial By Jury

Less than 3% of persons criminally indicted now get a trial. The threat of
lengthy pre-trial detention and asset forfeiture force many innocent people
to plead guilty. Legislation is now pending to substitute administrative
judges controlled by the Executive Branch for most trials by jury.

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                           Amendment Eight . . .
          Prohibition Against Excessive Bail, Fines And Punishment

By calling penalties "civil" rather than "criminal", government can seize
all of your assets without trial or any other form of legal proceeding.
Bail is being abolished for many crimes, including crimes that didn't even
exist ten years ago, such as "money-laundering". Punishments are becoming
increasingly harsh. Teenagers are getting years or decades in prison for
minor drug offenses. Businessmen are receiving long prison sentences for
technical violations of incomprehensible tax laws and securities
regulations. Ordinary citizens are being imprisoned for possession of
banned literature, guns, and even medicines.

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                            Amendment Nine . . .
                     Rights Reserved To The Individual

The Constitution and Bill of Rights were intended as strict restrictions on
government power. Those powers not explicitly granted to government were
retained by the individual. Today the Constitution has been stood on its
head. Courts are now saying anything the government wants to do is
permissible, unless explicitly prohibited by the Constitution. Government
now has nearly unlimited power, and the American people are losing control
of their own properties, lives and destinies.

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                            Amendment Ten . . .
                 Powers Not Granted The Federal Government

Power has shifted from the individual to the state, and from the states to
the federal government. Federal aid to states has meant federal control of
States. By including the entire economy under "interstate commerce", the
Supreme Court has given the Federal Government control over every aspect of
society.

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                            RECOMMENDED READING

    The Rights Retained By The People (Barnette) ................ $15.95
    The New Right vs The Constitution (Macedo) ................... $7.95
    The Power In The People (Felix Morley) ....................... $9.95
    Liberty Reclaimed (Jim Lewis/Jim Peron) ...................... $1.95
    The Law of the Constitution (Dicey) .......................... $7.00
   Freedom and Federalism (Felix Morley) ........................ $5.95

For these and other books and tapes write: Freedom's Forum Books, 1800
Market Street, San Francisco, California 94102. Add $2.50 P & H for 1st
book and $1.00 for each additional item.

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122.11MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5&#039;2&#039;&#039; 95 lbs.Fri Feb 09 1996 14:371
    Sobering stuff!
122.12BIGQ::SILVABenevolent &#039;pedagogues&#039; of humanityFri Feb 09 1996 14:404

	You know, Jack.... it would be very interesting to see ya in a
non-sober state sometime..... :-)  
122.13MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5&#039;2&#039;&#039; 95 lbs.Fri Feb 09 1996 15:063
    Get me another drink!!!!
    
    -Otis
122.14BIGQ::SILVABenevolent &#039;pedagogues&#039; of humanityFri Feb 09 1996 15:263

	I thought that would be ted kennedy....
122.15From the internet, thought it would be of interest.GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Feb 15 1996 14:24209
                               A MODEL BILL OF RIGHTS
		By former Belgium representative Michael Van Notten

Human rights:

   * originate in every person's natural obligation to form his own
     opinion.
   * specify those activities which do not require permission.
   * serve to prevent and resolve conflicts between people pursuing
     contradictory values, and
   * are timeless, unchangeable, absolute, inalienable and universal,
     taking priority over any law, including government law,

THEREFORE:
                              I (human rights)

Every person shall be free to:

  a. form his own opinion;
  b. control his own body;
  c. take any object not belonging to others;
  d. make agreements of his choice; and
  e. defend these freedoms.

                           II (human obligations)

Every person shall respect the rights of others, and shall therefore
refrain from:

  a. using force against their rightfully obtained possessions, and
  b. disposing otherwise of their property without their permission.

                               III (remedies)

Every person who violates someone's human rights shall:

  a. cease violating them.
  b. return the goods thereby alienated.
  c. compensate the damage inflicted and profits foregone, and
  d. pay fines for wilful infringement.

                                 IV (fines)

Fines shall accrue to the victim and be determined, in last instance, by an
independent and impartial court of justice on the basis of the seriousness
of the crime and the circumstances it was committed.

                                V (sanction)

Every person who fails to remedy the rights he violated loses, to the
benefit of his victim, his right to dispose of his property as long as his
refusal persists.

                                 VI (force)

Every person shall be free to use force to defend his human rights and to
restore them at the expense of the violator provided, in the latter case,
that such force is exercised by a police.

                              VII (the police)

The police, including the military, shall not use its force save:

  1. at the request of a person whose rights have been violated;
  2. against the person who violated them;
  3. for the sole purpose of remedying such violation;
  4. with the least violent means available;
  5. having previously summoned the violator to comply voluntarily;
  6. as certified by an independent and impartial court of justice.

                            VIII (the judiciary)

Every person shall be free to exercise the profession of judge, identifying
the origin, nature, function and contents of human rights as he sees fit.
Judges shall neither judge a person on his opinions, achievements or bodily
characteristics nor authorise the imposition of obligations not derived
from human rights.

                              IX (government)

Government shall consist of courts of justice and police forces, including
the military. Their function shall be to adjudicate and enforce human
rights. In the absence of an impartial judiciary or a human
rights-respecting police, every person shall be free, subject to his
liability for his own violations, to use force himself to restore his
violated rights.

From these nine fundamentals the following freedoms derive:

Every person shall be free:

  1. to live according to his own beliefs.
  2. to express, in his own language and manner, his thoughts and opinions.
  3. to reside in any country, and to move in and out of it along with his
     possessions.
  4. to enjoy the sanctity of his home and business, including his mail and
     telecommunications.
  5. to found a family and to raise and educate his children according to
     his own insights.
  6. to assemble freely and to join and resign from any association.
  7. to break any employment contract as long as he honours its severance
     pay obligations.
  8. to offer his services to people of his choice.
  9. to undertake any economic activity, including the adjudication or
     enforcement of human rights, and to keep its profits.
 10. to sell, buy, lease, rent, lend, borrow, retain or give away property
     by mutual agreement.
 11. to exploit his land and waters, and anything attached to it.
 12. to repossess the land and buildings taken from him in violation of
     human rights.
 13. to enjoy a viable environment of his property and to prevent others
     from spoiling it.
 14. to petition any government institution and avail himself of its
     services.
 15. to keep and bear arms.
 16. to use force himself when his rights are in clear and present danger.
 17. to dissolve any government institution which systematically violates
     human rights.

                             Rules of Procedure

1. Every person accused of having violated a human right shall be presumed
innocent until proven guilty by an impartial court of justice. He shall
obey the instructions of the court which hears his case while being
entitled:

  a. to agree with the plaintiff on initiating, interrupting and
     terminating any litigation before a judge of their choice.
  b. to refuse to submit to a judge who is forced upon him in the absence
     of such agreement as long as his impartiality is not assured.
  c. to be informed, in writing and in a language which he understands of
     the nature and cause of the charges against him.
  d. to try to refute such charges, but no plea of ignorance of human
     rights and its concomitant obligations shall be accepted.
  e. to be assisted and represented by counsel of his choice and to keep
     his communications with him confidential.
  f. to a public session of the court and a procedure in writing, with oral
     comments.
  g. to dispose of adequate time for the presentation of his defence.
  h. to resist interrogation, to decline to supply evidence and to refuse
     confession.
  i. to inspect the evidence brought against him and to cross-examine his
     accusers and their witnesses.
  j. to bring in his own witnesses and have them testify under the same
     conditions as the witnesses against him.
  k. to a prompt trial, without undue delays.
  l. to reject procedural and evidentiary rules which infringe upon the
     principle of presumed innocence.

2. Every person arrested shall:

  a. be informed immediately of the reasons for his arrest as well as his
     right to remain silent and the consequences of making statements.
  b. be given proper food, shelter and accommodation.
  c. be spared torture, assault and other inhuman treatment.
  d. be brought without undue delay before an impartial court of justice.
     Failure to do so shall entitle the arrested person to immediate
     release.
  e. be instructed, in writing and in a language which he understands, of
     the reason and nature of the charges against him.
  f. be released from detention when the court finds the charges lacking in
     credibility or when sufficient guaranty has been given for appearing
     at the trial and obeying the judgement, and his release would not
     frustrate the investigation.
  g. be permitted to receive mail and visitors when this does not interfere
     with the prosecution.
  h. be compensated for undue arrest and detention.

3. Every person convicted of having violated a human right shall be
entitled:

  a. to be informed, in writing and in a language which he understands, of
     the reasons for his conviction.
  b. to appeal once against his verdict and to have its interpretation of
     rights reviewed by a separate court.
  c. to avoid execution of his verdict by complying voluntarily.

4. No person finally convicted or acquitted shall be tried or submitted
again for the same offence.

5. Every person wrongly convicted shall be compensated.

6. Every person in clear and present danger shall be entitled to use force
himself in order to:

  a. defend his rights against immediate attack;
  b. stop an attack in progress;
  c. arrest his attacker caught red-handed;
  d. seize his attacker's assets for remedying the rights he infringed
     whenever these assets risk disappearing before a verdict is due.
  e. conserve proof or witness. Provided that an impartial court of justice
     certifies, either before or immediately afterwards that:
        o such danger occurred;
        o such objectives will be, or were, served;
        o the least violent means available will be, or were, served.

7. Every person whose human rights have been violated shall be entitled:

  a. to initiate proceedings against the violator;
  b. to halt such proceedings and to suspend or stop the execution of any
     verdict in his favour.
  c. to ignore any verdict which does not state the reasons of the
     defendant's acquittal;
  d. to appeal from the verdict in appeal when it overturns the verdict in
     first instance;
  e. to have a court's interpretation of rights reviewed by a separate
     court.


122.16Reprinted with permissionGENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Jul 30 1996 12:5389
"Bill of No Rights"

     We, the sensible of the United States, in an attempt to help
     everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any
     more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior and
     secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our
     great-great-great grandchildren, hereby try one more time to
     ordain and establish some common sense guidelines.

     We hold these truths to be self-evident, that a whole lot of
     people were confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that
     they require a "Bill of No Rights".

                                 ARTICLE I

     You do not have the right to a new car, big-screen color TV or
     any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally
     acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

                                ARTICLE II

     You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is
     based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just
     you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a
     different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots, and
     probably always will be.

                                ARTICLE III

     You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a
     screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect
     the tool manufacturer to make you and all of your relatives
     independently wealthy.

                                ARTICLE IV

     You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are
     the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help
     anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing
     generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who
     achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of
     professional couch potatoes.

                                 ARTICLE V

     You do not have the right to free health care. That would be
     nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not
     interested in public health care.

                                ARTICLE VI

     You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you
     kidnap, rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don't be
     surprised if the rest of us get together and kill you.

                                ARTICLE VII

     You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you
     rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other
     citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and
     lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to
     a big-screen color TV or a life of leisure.

                               ARTICLE VIII

     You do not have the right to demand that our children risk their
     lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate
     oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from
     going to fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting
     the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time
     battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and
     a funny hat.

                                ARTICLE IX

     You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to
     have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we
     expect you to take advantage of the opportunities in education
     and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

                                 ARTICLE X

     You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means
     that you have the right to pursue happiness -- which, by the way,
     is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of
     idiotic laws created by those around you who were confused by the
     Bill of Rights.


122.17RUSURE::GOODWINSacred Cows Make the Best HamburgerTue Jul 30 1996 12:592
    <-- That's great!  :-)
    
122.18SCASS1::BARBER_Aplease pass the dirtTue Jul 30 1996 13:211
    agagagaga!
122.19ACISS2::LEECHWed Jul 31 1996 10:043
    .16
    
    I like it.