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Conference orarep::nomahs::dbintegrator_public_public

Title:DB Integrator Public Conference
Notice:Database Integration - today! Kit/Doc info see note 36
Moderator:BROKE::ABUGOV
Created:Mon Sep 21 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1171
Total number of notes:5187

1072.0. "DMS II and Sybase databases..." by ORAREP::VAXRIO::NOVELLO (Cristina Novello - Pre-sales/RJ) Thu Jun 20 1996 11:43

    Hi,
    
    one of our customers wants to extract some data from a DMS-II database
    (UNISYS) and write to a Sybase database (Digital 2100 Server). 
    I've read in 604.0 that there was a solution called EDA/SQL for INFOaccess
    that could use for DMS-II databases.
    Does DBI Gateway for EDA  can access DMS-II?
    Could I write the data in Sybase using Dec Data Distributor?
    If so, what should I have on the Unisys and Digital sites?
    
    Thanks,
    Cristina.
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1072.1Might workBROKE::ABUGOVThu Jun 20 1996 13:5621
    
    Hi Cristina,
    
    We've never done it, but if the EDA solution is complete and it works 
    then we should work with it.  
    
    You can use the Sybase gateway to write to Sybase.  Currently to use
    DDD you will need an Rdb database available - I'm not sure that is in
    your environment.  You can move data from one database to other simply
    by using interactive SQL.
    
    You would need:
    
    Digital 2100 side                   Unisys side
    -----------------                   -----------
    Rdb trans. gway to EDA/SQL          EDA/SQL Server
    Rdb trans. gway to Sybase
    Sybase Open Client
    EDA/SQL Client
    
    Sorry we have no way of testing this in house...
1072.2Needing more info...ORAREP::VAXRIO::NOVELLOCristina Novello - Pre-sales/RJThu Jun 20 1996 15:3912
    
    Hi,
    
    I'm sorry, no Rdb licenses. So, DDD not allowed.
    Do Rdb trans. gway to EDA/SQL e
    Sybase mean DBI Gtw to EDA/SQL and DBI Gtw to Sybase?
    Not having Rdb, what would you suggest? 
    I know that EDA has a script 'simulating' an replicator like 
    DDD but not with so many features... Any other choices?
    
    Thanks,
    Cristina.
1072.3Not sure what to suggest...BROKE::ABUGOVThu Jun 20 1996 18:1712
    
    Hi Cristina,
    
    Yes, the Rdb Transparent Gateways are the new names for the DBI
    gateways.
    
    In terms of using a replication product, there seems to be a problem
    there.  It would work from interactive SQL, but someone would need to
    do the programming that causes transfers to happen, etc.
    
    Dan
    
1072.4BROKE::PROTEAUJean-Claude ProteauFri Jun 21 1996 09:107
    
    Not that this will help either, but I need to mention it for others who
    might be reading this note:
    
    DDD (the Replication Option for Rdb), as an alternative to requiring
    Rdb also works if you have Oracle7 (or OracleN) instead plus the
    Transparent gateway to Oracle.
1072.5Needing more info...ORAREP::VAXRIO::NOVELLOCristina Novello - Pre-sales/RJFri Jun 21 1996 15:2320
    Hi,
    
    in this case to read from a DMS II database and write into a Sybase,
    I need the customer needs to buy a Common Components license 
    to use DBI Gtw for EDA and DBI Gtw for Sybase, right?
    (as the customer does not have Rdb).
    
    If he wants to build programs to schedule some 'transfers' using 
    some language such as Cobol for instance, does he use the SQL
    commands of Rdb?
    
    IBI offers an EDA Agent that could be useful to 'transfer' data.
    But it doesn't have all features DDD has. If the customer would
    like to buy Rdb to use DDD and its features, he could read data
    from DMS II and write into a Sybase database, right? Still only
    extraction is supported? Replication transfer only supported
    if we have Rdb as source databases?
    
    Thanks,
    Cristina.
1072.6More answers...BROKE::ABUGOVFri Jun 21 1996 17:3331
    
    Hi Cristina,
    
    
>    in this case to read from a DMS II database and write into a Sybase,
>    I need the customer needs to buy a Common Components license 
>    to use DBI Gtw for EDA and DBI Gtw for Sybase, right?
>    (as the customer does not have Rdb).
 
    If the customer buys the gateways, they get use of interactive SQL.  If
    they want to do sql programming (with module or precompilers) then they
    need to buy the tools (I think for Rdb the tools are now called
    programmer 2000).
    
    
    >If he wants to build programs to schedule some 'transfers' using 
>    some language such as Cobol for instance, does he use the SQL
>    commands of Rdb?
    
    Using cobol would require the Rdb cobol pre or module compilers.  These
    use Rdb SQL.  To get these tools, they would need Rdb's programmer 2000
    tools
    
>    IBI offers an EDA Agent that could be useful to 'transfer' data.
>    But it doesn't have all features DDD has. If the customer would
>    like to buy Rdb to use DDD and its features, he could read data
>    from DMS II and write into a Sybase database, right? Still only
>    extraction is supported? Replication transfer only supported
>    if we have Rdb as source databases?
    
    The answers to the questions are "Yes", "Yes", and "Yes"