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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Moderator:BUSY::SLABB
Created:Wed May 04 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
Total number of notes:65616

1175.0. "DECJam 1996" by EDWIN::HOOKER () Wed Aug 14 1996 13:24

    If we were to try to organize another DECjam how many bands would be
    interested ?
    
    My only contacts would be with Sir Morgan's Cove (Worcester, MA) and
    Red Square (Nashua, NH).
    
    I had planned on calling both these places for gigs for my band GFY
    anyways.  If I thought we could put together 5 bands for a DECjam I
    would try to get something together.  From reading previous notes it
    seems that other DECjams were held on Sunday nights.  I'm guessing that
    was chosen by the clubs and NOT the band members.  I might be able to
    persuade SMC or Red Square to having this type of thing on a Thursday
    night if I could promise them a large showing.  So I guess my question
    is how much interest is there ?  How many noters in the area have bands
    that they could get together to play ?  How many other noters would
    come to either SMC or Red Square to check out a DECjam ?  Would it
    matter whether it were in MA or NH ?  Gimme some feedback ! (no not the
    kind that you wail from your guitars).
    
    Shane, who would like to see something happen
    
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1175.1BUSY::SLABYou're a train ride to no importanceWed Aug 14 1996 13:3918
    
    	Remember that no matter where you have it, someone is going to
    	have to travel some distance to get there.  And if that same
    	someone has to work the next day, it could make a difference
    	as to the day/time that this person will be able to play.
    
    	Ergo, Sunday is better because an earlier start [and finish]
    	time can be set.
    
    	But I'd suggest you decide on a day of the week, then call a
    	club or 2 and get a few possible dates [and plan on 7-8 bands]
    	and then post the dates and put out a call for bands.  Or you
    	poll people as to the best available day of the week and go
    	from there.
    
    	[And if you try to reply to this and it's locked, I'm moving
    	it to another location.]
    
1175.2it would give them a gig to playPOWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Aug 14 1996 13:511
    I'm sure /prIc and B.S. would be interested.
1175.35-9:00 pm bands/9-10:00 PM JAM!SUBSYS::MSOUCYWed Aug 14 1996 13:5811
    
    For me Red Square would be ok, not as bad as trying to make it to
    wooster and then back home and back to shr in the morning (live in
    methuen/salem nh line area).  Sunday would be cool cuzz you could maybe
    have a BIG JAM with a buncha the boyz/girlz (any female band members?)
    towards the end of the show. Something like 5-9PM bands play maybe 30
    minute sets, at 9:00-10:00 pm have the jam! Little Richards Roadhouse
    (which I have NOT gone to yet) in north andover has jam night on sunday
    from 5-9PM. Gonna go catch it one of these weekends! I like da blues!
    
    
1175.4BUSY::SLABYour mother has an outie!!Wed Aug 14 1996 14:176
    
    	Remember to plan for at least 15 minutes between sets for the
    	changeover.
    
    	So 8 bands would take 6 hours at least.
    
1175.5it's like a city block!POOKY::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryWed Aug 14 1996 14:326
    
    RE: 15 minutes
    
    Well...maybe a bit longer if Rob's drum set is involved! :^)
    
    /jen
1175.6BUSY::SLABYour mother has an outie!!Wed Aug 14 1996 14:353
    
    	Make sure that Rob's band plays 1st.  8^)
    
1175.7EDWIN::HOOKERWed Aug 14 1996 15:0626
    Well logistically if you're gonna have 7 or 8 bands it saves time
    to have one drum set.  Although I hate that (most drummers would rather
    play their own set than someone elses).  It's not so much the time
    saved in breakin down a set and putting up another, it's the time it
    takes for the fricken sound guy to come take the mics off the drum set
    and put them on the next.  Most of em freak when you try to save them
    time by taking their mics off your set or putting them on.  I'll offer
    that mine could be used by the other bands (unless of course Rob's is
    bigger and would be willing to let everyone use his)...yes size is 
    everything ;)  
    
    At any rate the logistics can wait until we know how many bands we'd
    have...but I think it should be not more than 8 bands.
    
    Am I hearing that it would be better to do this on a Sunday afternoon
    to evening type thing (3-9pm) ?  If we would have 7-8 bands then yes since
    giving each band 30 minutes would mean 3-1/2 to 4 hours of just music
    not to mention set changes, time for band members to guzzle beer, etc..
    Although it wouldn't rule out a Thursday night thing either (7p-1am
    could work maybe).
    
    I'd still like to know who would want to be in it ?  Buck ? db ? Rob ?
    Bueller ?  Bueller ?  Who are the musicians in here that live in the
    area ?
    
    Shane, who just got reorg'd...and liked it 
1175.8BUSY::SLABch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haWed Aug 14 1996 15:096
    
    	Also post an announcement in the other music-related confer-
    	ences, like MUSIC, GUITAR, etc.  Most of the bands will be
    	non-metal bands, since I can only recall a couple bands at
    	previous DECJams that were metal-oriented.
    
1175.9-1POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Aug 14 1996 15:261
    Which bands were those, Shawn?
1175.10BUSY::SLABch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haWed Aug 14 1996 15:316
    
    	Contagious comes to mind.
    
    	And 1 of Pete's bands played a few years ago ... was it Mystic
    	Powers?
    
1175.11DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Aug 14 1996 15:334
    
    
    	Variety would be cool........
    
1175.12BUSY::SLABch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haWed Aug 14 1996 15:406
    
    	RE: .11
    
    	Can you name a few of their songs?  That name doesn't ring a
    	bell.
    
1175.13THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Wed Aug 14 1996 17:522
    I'm afraid I won't be able to make it.  30 hour commute.
    -ss
1175.14KDX200::CJThu Aug 15 1996 10:264
    Steve, the airfares to Boston are dirt cheap right now!  
    $200 round trip we paid!
    
    CJ
1175.16Drum kits & MetropolisDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Aug 15 1996 10:4620
    Rob has been more than willing to let folks use his drumset in the
    past.
    
    I think his kit has worked out very well at past DECjams because we
    feed the sound guys both mic'd acoustic drums and MIDI drums (Rob and I
    MIDI'd his acoustic kit).   I thought the drum sound at the last Cove
    DECJam was well above average.
    
    Another option/solution to the multiple drum-kit problem is to have
    space on the stage for two drum-kits - that way, one guy can be setting
    up while another is playing.   My 2 cents would be to "reserve" one
    "drum kit area" for the "house kit" which would be shared if that's
    possible.   Some drummers (at least at past DECjams) were more than
    happy to avoid  the hassle of carting their kits around.
    
    It is my foremost hope and expectation that our band Metropolis
    (Rob, Tom Benson, Lance Levine, myself and two non-deccies) would
    be able to play at this.   Couldn't quite guarantee it though.
    
    	db
1175.17Red SquareDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Aug 15 1996 10:508
    Oh... as if it needs to be said, I'm quite sure that all the members of
    metropolis would GREATLY prefer Nashua to "The Cove".
    
    We've done lots of gigs at the Cove and while we appreciated the
    business, I know lots of MEtropolites has stopped just short of vowing
    not to play there again.
    
    	db
1175.18CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandThu Aug 15 1996 11:071
I heard the the Cove was the best place to steal gigs  :-)
1175.19It's a date then...EDWIN::HOOKERThu Aug 15 1996 11:2839
    Ok you asked for it...
    
    DECjam 1996		OCT 6, 1996 	Red Square, Nashua NH
    
    Calling for bands to play for this event.  Only rules are that at least
    one member of the band be a DECcie.  As it is right now I've scheduled
    it from 3p - 9pm on that Sunday.  18 and over are welcome and they can
    still serve all 21 and over.  [DISCLAIMER--this event is not sponsored
    by Digital Equipment Corporation...any similarity between the people
    involved with this event and that of DEC employees is purely
    coincidental...in other words, I'm responsible for organizing this and
    DEC cannot be held liable if you break a guitar string].
    
    I'm limiting it to 8 bands so that each gets a good half-hour.  Plus
    there will be some time left over for a random jam perhaps.  More
    details to come.
    
    If you have a band, or can make form one quickly, send me email with
    your name, email address, and phone #.  Also if you can give me the
    number of people in your band (names would also be good and what
    instrument they play) and the type of music you will be playing it
    would be appreciated.  I'd like to see some real diversity here so
    everyone is welcome.  The first 7 that can respond to me will get dibs.
    I say 7 because I myself will be in one of the bands (sorry but I get
    a few priviledges since it seems I'm the one organizing this).  So..
    the list thus far of bands...
    
    GFY  -- Hard Rock (original music)
    	Sean O'Shea --vocals
    	Rodney Lukowski -- bass
    	Bob Fillion -- guitar
    	Chris Haley -- guitar
    	Shane Hooker -- drums
    
    Send responses to EDWIN::HOOKER.  Can some moderator (Shawn) please
    post this in the other music related conferences ?  Thanks...
    
    Shane
    
1175.20EDWIN::HOOKERThu Aug 15 1996 11:4116
    btw...
    
    even if your a band of only 'one' and feel like doing this let
    me know.
    
    And I guess there's no rule saying that if you're in one band that
    doesn't mean you can't play for another band too...meaning if someone
    is playing in their own band but also wants to play in a band composed
    of more DECcies than that might be ok too.  It'd be cool if we could
    get a band of all DECcies together.  But then again we don't want 
    one person being a band whore and playing in every single band either.
    We'll settle everything out as I get some more replies and things 
    become a bit more solid.  Laters....
    
    Shane
    
1175.21Returnin_DEC_ROCK_To_Nashua!WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlThu Aug 15 1996 11:551
    
1175.22PATE::SCHIAVONEKick in the stall all nightThu Aug 15 1996 12:344
	Allright Shane....WTG

	/Cap'n Quad
1175.23S.O.S.POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 15 1996 12:4614
    Mr. Hooker (Bwah!) wrote:
    
    >>Calling for bands to play for this event.  Only rules are that at least
    >>one member of the band be a DECcie.  
    
    8^(  
    
    I guess that omits Blue (they needed the money!) Steel.  Oh well, that's 
    how the Heavy Metal bounces.  8^)
    
    
    Anyone interested in forming an ABBA Tribute Band for this??
    8^)
    
1175.24BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanThu Aug 15 1996 12:472
    YES! ABBA! Gotta a brunette here,.,,, need a blonde! ;)
    jEN!
1175.25EDWIN::HOOKERThu Aug 15 1996 12:5411
    umm..
    
    Does diversity include ABBA ??!  I knew I should have thrown in
    some more rules to prevent this kind of mayhem.
    
    Maybe everyone who still is employed by DEC should bring their instrument 
    and a current resume with them since some of the bands might have
    have happily employed ex-DECies in them as well.
    
    Shane, who yes...I had to bring the rock back to Nashua...it had been
    back in Worcester for way too long   ;)
1175.26BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanThu Aug 15 1996 12:562
    
    Too bad !!!! 8P 
1175.27oh nEVAH mind...can't do that either!POOKY::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryThu Aug 15 1996 13:1411
    
    RE: .24
    
    SueJ,
    
    Despite the fact that my grandmother was a professional, recorded
    vocalist, I cannot carry a tune even on sheet music.
    
    I suppose I could just stand on stage and look fabulous! :^)
    
    /jen
1175.28POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 15 1996 13:163
    >>YES! ABBA! Gotta a brunette here,.,,, need a blonde! ;)
    
    /k is a blonde!!
1175.29BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanThu Aug 15 1996 13:421
    yes! But she hates abba...
1175.30Right SueJ???POOKY::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryThu Aug 15 1996 13:505
    
    Hmmmm...well Rob has occasionally been what you could consider a
    blonde, and we all know how much he LOVES ABBA!
    
    /jen
1175.31POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 15 1996 13:585
    
    Well, JJ is a blonde, and she likes ABBA.
    
    Wot, you mean she only ACTS like a blonde?  Whoops!
    8^)
1175.32THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 15 1996 15:205
    Oct 6?
    
    
    Bummer. I won't be a DECcie anymore then. (see p_n)
    :(_ss
1175.33DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Aug 15 1996 17:423
    > Does diversity include ABBA ??
    
    No, you're confusing "diversity" with "adversity".
1175.34Hats off Shane on getting this going!!!!STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Aug 15 1996 22:425
    
    ..makes me wish I had a band together.
    
    Kev --
    
1175.35BUSY::SLABCandy'O, I need you ...Fri Aug 16 1996 08:537
    
    	Well, you've got 2 months to get some people together and
    	practice some stuff.
    
    	If you need a member, I think I could probably play a tamb-
    	ourine or triangle ... just don't make me do a solo.
    
1175.36;')POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Aug 16 1996 08:585
    >	If you need a member, I think I could probably play a tamb-
    >	ourine or triangle ... 
    
    I *knew* there was a good reason you always reminded me of Tracy
    from The Partridge Family show!!
1175.37BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanFri Aug 16 1996 08:592
    More like a 6 weeks!!!! Get practicing !!
    
1175.38Rob on drumsDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri Aug 16 1996 09:2714
From:	US2RMC::"[email protected]" "Rob Rothberg" 16-AUG-1996 10:22:33.04
To:	Dave Blickstein  16-Aug-1996 0942 -0400 <dregs::blickstein>
CC:	dregs::blickstein, [email protected], star::benson, [email protected], [email protected]
Subj:	Re: Can we "commit"?

sure we can commit.  this time around though im INCLINED to use someone
elses drum set, BUT it needs to at least have a dbl bass drum or double
pedal, i can cart along wood blocks and other special things I use.  i doubt
people would be into using my midi set and from the sounds of it, my
acoustic set just plain wouldnt fit in this place :').  IF the volunteer set
doesnt have dbl bass, then ill have to work something else out (i dont mind
if people use mine, again its just a space vs. will they use midi issue).

cheers, rob
1175.39CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Aug 16 1996 09:341
double bass drum?  Must feel the need to play "One" in his sleep
1175.40EDWIN::HOOKERFri Aug 16 1996 09:4543
    As for drum sets go I've offered that people can use mine.  It's 
    large enough to keep most people happy I think (maybe too large for
    some) but I know that it fits on the Red Square drum riser.  So here's
    what I got:
    
    Ludwig (Rocker series) 8 piece set mounted on Tama rack system
    
    2 bass drums with DW5000 pedals
    1 snare
    4 rack toms
    1 floor tom  (with one Tazmanian devil to hold drum sticks)
    
      Zildjian cymbals
    1 20" ride
    2 16" crashes
    1 19" crash
    1 18" china boy high
    1 14" hi-hats
    
    The only thing with my set is that it's set up lower and closer than
    most since I'm more affected by gravity than others.  So I'm sure some
    adjustments will be needed for those a bit taller than me.  The other
    deal is that if anyone breaks a fricken cymbal then they're payin for
    it.  I've had to replace 2 cymbals already this year and they ain't 
    cheap.  So as long as they're not a cymbal eater they're more than
    welcome to use all of mine.
    
    As people start sendin me info on their band and equipment they use
    I'll try to figure out if we can all get away with using one set-up
    (drums, amps, bass cabinet).  That way people would just have to bring
    their effects processors and plug in to the amps already on stage again
    saving some time and leavin more time for music and havin fun.
    
    So far I've heard from db and Dave Nelson.  So it looks like we still
    need 5 more bands.  And don't forget individuals are welcome too.  If
    people just want to get up and play the guitar and sing a couple tunes
    that would be cool too.  You don't have to use up all 30 minutes we
    can be flexible.  So any of you folk type singers or whatever speak up.
    Also Ian ...do you have any bagpipes ?  You could like lead us in some
    Scottish folk song about some battle where all these people were killed
    (most Scottish folk songs).  Laters...
    
    Shane, who's still waiting to hear from more people...
1175.41SCASS1::BARBER_Aall of which are American dreamsFri Aug 16 1996 11:072
    Yeah, and he can cover himself with blue paint and dance naked!  That
    would be entertainment!!
1175.42POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meFri Aug 16 1996 11:121
    I haven't been able to master one bass pedal much less two.
1175.43CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Aug 16 1996 12:111
How about a salmon pedal?  Flounder Pedal?
1175.44Flower Pedal?POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Aug 16 1996 12:151
    
1175.45POOKY::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryFri Aug 16 1996 12:508
    
    I prefer the accelerator pedal, myself.
    
    And to stay on topic, I did forward a note to the one and only
    MetalLord, Matt Bagdy, but don't hold your breath.  He hasn't been seen
    in these parts since he got married...years ago!
    
    /jen
1175.46DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Fri Aug 16 1996 13:045
    
    
    	I was privileged enough to hear from him (via e-mail) a couple
    	weeks back.
    
1175.47POOKY::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryFri Aug 16 1996 13:076
    
    Yup...he'll write, but he won't leave Vermont! :^)
    
    Maybe a DECJam would tempt him and Ren! :)
    
    /jen
1175.48BUSY::SLABDILLIGAFFri Aug 16 1996 13:513
    
    	Hopefully he won't forget to drag Stimpy along also.
    
1175.49KDX200::COOPERThere is no TRY - DO or DO NOT!Fri Aug 16 1996 14:055
    Jen,
    
    How the HELL do you know Matt??
    
    jc - who also got mail from 'im lately??
1175.50POOKY::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryFri Aug 16 1996 14:1410
    
    RE: -1
    
    I know LOTS of people, Coop!
    
    Why, I even had a brew with Matt in Basingstoke, England once.
    
    RE: Stimpy comment.   Er, his wife's name is Renee.  nickname REN!
    
    /jen
1175.51"My other piano is a 1.5' Kurzweil"DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri Aug 16 1996 16:0014
    > As people start sendin me info on their band and equipment they use
    
    Shane,
    
    I'll be bringing 3 grand pianos:
    
    	1 9' Steinway
    	1 9' Bosendoerfer
    	1 6' Yamaha
    
    Although, if space is tight, I suppose I MIGHT be able to get by with
    just the Steinway and the Bosendoerfer.
    
    ;-)
1175.52WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlMon Aug 19 1996 15:031
    The Place is Small...
1175.53se la vee (sp?)SPESHR::WAIBLETue Aug 20 1996 09:108
    Aw nuts. I dont think I'll be able to convince TIME CAPSULE to travel.
    (that would make us TIME TRAVEL %^). As much as I 've tried to get them
    to move, if its more than 20 mile outside of Worcester, they wont do
    it, even on a 'non-school' nite let alone a Sunday or a thursday. Oh
    well....hopefully something will work out. I really love the jams and
    havent been to one in years.
    
    					keep rockin - Fred
1175.54EDWIN::HOOKERTue Aug 20 1996 09:254
    Re: -1
    
    They are obviously stuck in bringing the rock back to Worcester ?
    
1175.55SPESHR::WAIBLETue Aug 20 1996 11:577
    well they arent deccies but they live in charlton and webster and are
    kind of home grown. I'll see if I can broche (sp) the subject with
    them, but I'm not optimistic. I certainly wouldt go changing it on my
    (their) account. We're playing friday so I'll see what I can learn
    then.
    
    
1175.56What a bunch of pansies ;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Aug 22 1996 10:4111
    Tell them they are WIMPS!!!!!
    
    We played the last DECjam in Worcestor with members from Hudson, NH,
    Hollis NH and EVEN Exeter NH!
    
    I don't think I even played a DECjam that was under an hour from where
    I lived (and I've played in about 5 now).
    
    It's about time we had one near where we live.
    
    	db
1175.57differences valued?SMURF::SCHOFIELDRick Schofield, DTN 381-0116Thu Aug 22 1996 11:0210
    What is the band count up to now?  Are the bands along the lines of the
    ad-hoc, throw 'em together for this event, or are we looking at a more
    "battle-of-the-established-bands" sort of thing here?
    
    And given that the announcement first appeared in this conference
    (which I've only just started following - I saw the cross-posting
    in GUITAR),  are the particiapating bands all/mostly HM?
    
    	Rick
    
1175.58DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Aug 22 1996 12:395
    
    
    	Metropolis is not heavy metal.  Classic stuff like Kansas,
    	Styx etc..........
    
1175.59where did that devil go?POOKY::OROURKEAhh...BATMAN ERT....Life is good!!Thu Aug 22 1996 12:405
    
    and don't forget an occasional Charlie Daniels tune tossed in for fun!
    :^)
    
    /jen
1175.60SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu Aug 22 1996 12:514
    ...love that Charlie Daniels tune!
    
    
    					Ian
1175.61Rick, you got it wrong: DECjams are TRUE musical freedomDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Aug 22 1996 13:2425
>    What is the band count up to now?  Are the bands along the lines of the
>    ad-hoc, throw 'em together for this event, or are we looking at a more
>    "battle-of-the-established-bands" sort of thing here?
    
    The answer is that all bands of all kinds are welcome and you shouldn't
    feel the need to "fit in" and CERTAINLY not to "compete" as in a 
    "battle".
    
    The unique thing about a DECjam is that its a chance to do whatever the
    hell you want.  No club owners to worry about.  An audience that is
    likely to appreciate and encourage almost anything you do.  You don't
    even have to already have a band - you can form one just for the
    DECjam.
    
    In fact, my tendency has always been to NOT have my regular band play
    at DECjams, but to do something different.  In fact my band,
    Metropolis, started out that way.  We all loved progressive rock from
    the 70's but never figured we'd ever have a chance of getting bookings
    doing that stuff so no point in trying to get a band together.  
    
    But a DECjam offered the chance to do the music that we really loved
    without having to worry about getting bookings, or support from the
    crowd.
    
    	db
1175.62ala Blues Brothers! POOKY::OROURKEAhh...BATMAN ERT....Life is good!!Thu Aug 22 1996 13:376
    
    And Rick, as I told you, if the crowd doesn't support you...you'll be
    protected from the flying beer bottles by the chicken wire that Shane
    (as the organizer) puts up! :^)
    
    /jen
1175.63of course, Metropolis won the last battle, er, DECjamPOWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 22 1996 15:053
    DECjams have always been a vailed Battle of the Bands ... just ask
    Rik Sawyer!  He nearly had my head after my band, The Unpredictables,
    "win" the first DECjam back in January, 1987.  ;')
1175.64BUSY::SLABDo you wanna bang heads with me?Thu Aug 22 1996 15:166
    
    	Did you do "Where the Streets Have No Name" in that 1?  With
    	your sister doing lead vocals?
    
    	That was the 1st DECJam I went to.
    
1175.65THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 22 1996 16:142
    You guys are lucky I don't come up there play ya to shame.
    :)_ss
1175.66POOKY::OROURKEAhh...BATMAN ERT....Life is good!!Thu Aug 22 1996 16:187
    
    RE: -1
    
    R U still here?  :^)
    
    /jen
    
1175.67soon enuf.....THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 22 1996 18:021
    <------You make it sound like you can't wait 'til I go:)_
1175.68EDWIN::HOOKERFri Aug 23 1996 11:478
    Well so far I've got 5 bands maybe... I've been stuck in
    a training class the past 3 days so I will post the info
    that I've gotten so far next week as to people I've heard
    from.  In the meantime I'd like to get 3 more bands to
    participate...otherwise we'll just have to set up karaoke
    and have people sing A** S*****.  Laters...
    
    Shane
1175.69DECjam is as DECjam does...SMURF::SCHOFIELDRick Schofield, DTN 381-0116Fri Aug 23 1996 13:3110
    Well thanks for all the feedback folks.  I'm reassured that this will
    be a DECjam in the classic sense of the term.  I'm looking forward to
    getting out to see and meet.  I've lurked in this file (well, GUITAR
    actually) for many years, read the reviews of DECjams past, even
    watched a memorable video (nice pecs, db :-), and looked forward to
    the day when my chops and my schedule and my network of jamming buds
    would all come together long enough to get into one of these.  I'm
    sincerely looking forward to it....
    
    	R
1175.70As Bill S Preston & theodore R Logan would say:CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Aug 23 1996 13:411
69 dude!!!
1175.71.....it's a jam right?......JUGHED::FLATTERYTue Aug 27 1996 11:144
    so....who wants to play a basic 12 bar blues progression in E so that I can
    sing a tune at this gig..........;")..........since this is basic, no
    practice is required......a 'jam' of the purest type,....it's 4 verses
    and watch me for the breaks........any takers.??...../k
1175.72Not In Concrete_YetWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlTue Aug 27 1996 14:107
    Now I've Met Ian A Few_Times.
     Don't You_And_Ian_Bud Tell me That He's Stage_Shy!
    
      Come'on_Bud. ROCK
    
       Crazy_I'm_Workin_On_Some_Thang_Al 
      
1175.73CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandTue Aug 27 1996 15:141
Stevie Ray Goldie!!!
1175.74DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceTue Aug 27 1996 15:313
    /k
    
    I'd be happy to do that.
1175.75sorryTHEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 27 1996 18:483
    re. 70 ? 12 bar blues
    
    Now there's a gig I could help ya with, but I can't help ya.
1175.76SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu Aug 29 1996 08:218
    
    
    I would do it but since I'll be busy bringing metal back to Worcester
    that day I'll be too busy! 8)
    
    
    
    						Ian
1175.77The /K BluesDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Aug 29 1996 13:5525
    /k
    
    I talked to the other guys in Metropolis and everyone is willing to
    do a generic blues in E with you as long as it doesn't "count" as
    being part of our set.  
    
    So if that's cool with the organizers, and you don't have something
    cooked up with some other people (which would be fine), we'd be happy
    to back you up.
    
    My only concern is... Rob seems to want to do it in 5/8.  ;-)
    
    	db
    
    p.s. And maybe this'll prove to others that I don't hate the blues
         It's just that I can only take it in limited dosages.  ;-)
    
    p.p.s.  The 5/8 thing is kinda an inside joke.   I once went to a
            bluesjam with Rob at Stormy Monday up here in Merrimack.
    
    	    Rob sat in on a tune and played about the first 5 bars in
    	    4/4 before I hand signalled "6/8" to him.   Actually, I thought
    	    4/4 over 6/8 was kinda cool (a polyrhythm) but I Knew the
    	    bar was full of blues purists.  ;-)
    	    
1175.78...screw abba......and their little dog too.JUGHED::FLATTERYThu Aug 29 1996 15:524
    just so you all know that i haven't put db on deep 'ignore'...we're talking
    about this off-line.....all those who'd like to see rob and i do a
    journey duet....raise your hands!............;")......./k
    
1175.79do itSTRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Fri Aug 30 1996 06:276
    
    db, that 5/8 blues thing sounds pisser!!  I'm diggin asymetrical
    time codes...
    
    Kev --
    
1175.80HAND UPPOWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Aug 30 1996 07:481
    
1175.81EDWIN::HOOKERFri Aug 30 1996 09:0616
    cool 5/8...I actually wrote a song we're trying to work on
    that goes from 9/8 to 5/8 time...just need some lyrics.
    
    The Metropolis /k thing is cool we're flexible besides I
    heard much from people who have bands together yet.  Originally
    I had thought we might be able to find 8 bands but so far it's
    only about 5 which is fine cause that will allow time for people
    to do kinda weird things and more jam time or whatever.
    
    In fact if any of the musicians want to recycle themselves and
    appear in multiple bands I don't see why not...
    I'll be playin with GFY for 30 minutes but if anyone else wants
    to put a band together to do a few cover tunes and needs a drummer
    let me know...anyone out there like Van Halen ??  ;)
    
    Shane, who will play anything but ABBA ;)
1175.82Might as well Jump...DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceTue Sep 03 1996 09:4014
>    In fact if any of the musicians want to recycle themselves and
>    appear in multiple bands I don't see why not...
>    I'll be playin with GFY for 30 minutes but if anyone else wants
>    to put a band together to do a few cover tunes and needs a drummer
>    let me know...anyone out there like Van Halen ??  ;)
>    
>    Shane, who will play anything but ABBA ;)
    
    Hey, I'd like to do something like that.  And its clear already that we
    are totally compatable in regards to song selection.  ;-)
    
    	db - who feels (as a keyboard player) that "Jump" is the equivalent
    		of the guitarist's "Stairway to Heaven" but would do it
    		anyway for at least this gig.  ;-)
1175.83DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Tue Sep 03 1996 15:214
    
    
    	Where's "Face" Cleland?  Maybe he can get in on this?
    
1175.84BUSY::SLABDon&#039;t like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Sep 03 1996 15:223
    
    	Get in on what?  Did someone use a bad word again?
    
1175.85DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 04 1996 09:245
    
    
    	No no......... the Van Halen thing.  He's a member of
    	Diver Down isn't he?
    
1175.86ProblemDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Sep 04 1996 10:496
>    	No no......... the Van Halen thing.  He's a member of
>    	Diver Down isn't he?
    
    Yes but... he's the drummer.  ;-)
    
    	db
1175.87DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 04 1996 15:195
    
    
    	
    		OOps.  =)
    
1175.88KDX200::COOPERThere is no TRY - DO or DO NOT!Sat Sep 07 1996 20:4812
    Anyone who says db doesn't like the blues or can't play 'em can call me
    for confirmation - he CAN do it;  I seen the following happen in
    Merrimack about three years ago:
    
    - Mustang Sally, with Alan Starr on vox and (get this) Rob Rothberg  
      doing the drumz...
    - Stormy Monday with Alan singin', Rob drummin' and me and Steve
      Dandrea playing guits
    - The Thrill Is Gone with me and Steve D, Rob, db, and *I* sang
      (mistake!).
    
    Scary stuff, eh kidz?
1175.89Ride me honey...ICS::CLELANDMon Sep 09 1996 15:009
    	Shawn, Face is a bad word, at least the way I'm using it
    	(carnival rides galore)
    
    	Thanks for the mention Judy, but it sounds like Shane has dibs
    	on any Van Halen drumming for this gig...
    
    	The Van Halen Show is rolling into Worcester friday 20-SEP, you're
    	welcome to be added to the guest list. Shawn and any guests are
    	welcome to the guest list as always...
1175.90BUSY::SLABDuster :== idiot driver magnetMon Sep 09 1996 15:313
    
    	I would like to see you guys again ... I'll try and make it.
    
1175.91they can't close Wally World !!!EDWIN::HOOKERTue Sep 10 1996 13:3429
    well all I can say is that the Red Square BITES THE BIG ONE !!!
    
    I called today to iron out some details with Mark their
    booking guy.  He tells me that it's not going to happen because
    Red Square is CLOSING !  I asked when he found this out he
    said last week.  Nice of him to f*ckin call me to let me
    know that it's cancelled.  What an professional a**hole and
    unprofessional booking agent this guy is.  So anyways the only
    good news is that this guy Mark, who I never liked much, is
    out of a job as a booking agent.  He says that the Bahama Beach
    club will remain open but that they will no longer have any
    live music.
    
    So.....what to do about DECJam 96 ??  Well I called Jay down
    at the good ol' Sir Morgan's Cove and he's supposed to get
    back to me about having it on Oct 20.  The 6th was too soon
    for them (understandable) and the 15th was on Columbus Day 
    weekend which I thought wouldn't be a good choice.  So I will
    let you know as soon as he gets back to me after talking with
    the owner.  One good thing is that Chris Haley, GFY's guitarist,
    is Jay's (the booking guy for the Cove) son's math teacher.
    So we have some leverage to get in on that date...if we don't
    his kid might not pass 7th grade algebra !!  Anyways, I'll keep
    you up to date.  Sorry kids... hopefully everyone will be able
    to adjust to the new place and time once it becomes certain.
    And please feel free to egg, set fire, urinate on, or defacate
    near the Red Square for being such weenies !  Laters...
    
    Shane, who is not a happy camper
1175.92BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Tue Sep 10 1996 14:203
    
    	Are they closing for good?
    
1175.938)BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebTue Sep 10 1996 14:422
    
    um.... I think thats what he is saying there Shawn Baby,,.,,,
1175.94Lots of metal has been returned thereCADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandTue Sep 10 1996 14:582
Well the good news is that SMC is easier to find - all you need is a magnet.

1175.95BUSY::SLABGot into a war with reality ...Tue Sep 10 1996 15:427
    
    	RE: .93
    
    	Well, he didn't say "closing for good", he said "closing".
    	That could mean that they will be going on vacation for a
    	month or so.
    
1175.96exDECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 11 1996 08:297
    
    
    	Nah.  They'll close it for a few months.  Redecorate the inside
    	for the zillionth time and re-open it as something else.  That
    	part of the club has changed at least a half dozen times in as
    	many years.
    
1175.97EDWIN::HOOKERWed Sep 11 1996 08:3310
    My interpretation was that they would be closing Red Square
    for good.  What they do with it I don't know but the guy said
    that they had no intentions of having live music there anymore.
    I asked the booking guy where that left him and he said 'looking
    for a job'.  I don't understand why it's soo difficult for them
    to stay in business with live music.  Judy and I are always having
    to go off to Manchester or down to MA to catch bands.  It'd
    be nice if there were a place in Nashua....oh well..
    
    
1175.98PATE::SCHIAVONEThe air will fill your lungs with fistsWed Sep 11 1996 08:355
	Isn't there some sort of dive bar off of Main St. that has some local
live bands????

	/Cap'n Quad 
1175.99EDWIN::HOOKERWed Sep 11 1996 08:384
    Re: -1
    
    Main St in Worcester ??? what city are ya talkin about ?
    
1175.100Mustang Sally HellSMURF::SLOATWed Sep 11 1996 08:508
    
    There is Sharky's off of Main St. (Nashua) which occasionally book
    a tolerable band or two...  Other than that, if you're gonna
    listen to live music in South Nashua, be prepared to listen
    to some band that will inevitably play Mustang Sally and 
    other such stuff (not that I minded listening to them play
    Mustang Sally...the first BILLION-something times...).
    
1175.101Red Square, yaw, exit 7PATE::SCHIAVONEThe air will fill your lungs with fistsWed Sep 11 1996 08:586
	Shane I was talkin' Main St in Nashua....Maybe that Sharkey's is it...

	I try to get to Nashua as little as possible %^)  

	/CQ_who_gives_Nashua_directions_like Jersey_directions_WHICH_EXIT
1175.102a couple other places to try sometime...SUBSYS::MSOUCYWed Sep 11 1996 09:0218
    
    I thought there was a blues bar if you crossed main st. coming from
    Hudson on rte. 111? And Stormy Mondays in merrimack maybe?
    
    You could always come to Salem and hit the Mall at Rockingham Park and
    go to LJ's. They have some decent local bands that play there every
    friday/saturday night (not sure how good every weekend, but usually
    there is someone good there most times). A couple decent bands I've
    heard is Buzz Bomb, and my friends band Jet City (I know Stan the
    singer from when he was in Thrust). Another decent one is Southpaw, a
    friend knows someone in the band and are pretty good (play at
    Samantha's restaurant in the lounge downstairs on main st. salem, aka
    ret 97).
    
    Salem needs another bigger club for live music....small places are ok
    to hit though too!
    
    
1175.103DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Sep 11 1996 10:0323
    I think Sharkey's is (part of) what used to be "Headliners North".
    
    It is VERY divey (I've played jams there) but... I look at it as 
    having "blues atmosphere".   Obviously, if you're looking for a swanky
    blues club, you wanna head 10 minutes north to Stormy Monday Cafe
    in Merrimack which is an exceptionally nice place IMHO although not
    laid out particular well.
    
    Headliners North used to be a GREAT place to catch bands.  Lots of well
    known performers played there.  Two folks played there that years later
    would be featured performers at Great Woods events (I'm pretty sure
    Bonnie Raitt played Headliners and another guy whose name I'm spacing
    on but who is a kinda electric blues guitarist with a major major
    league drinking problem - he's known for leaving the stage for a drink
    while laying his guitar on his amp while its screaming with feedback -
    I think his first name is Merle).
    
    I saw the latter at Headliners.  He sucked BIG TIME.  Worst show I've
    ever seen (excluding Satriani shows of course) Was way too drunk
    to play.   Basically just made noise for 45 minutes and then came off
    stage (and I have no doubt passed out moments later).
    
    	db
1175.104DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 11 1996 14:0018
    
    
    	Dave,
    
    	Where is Headliners?  There's nothing near Sharky's by that 
    	name.  And from what I hear, Sharky's is no where near at 
    	much of a dive as it used to be.  They bought out whatever
    	was next door and made it into one huge club/place to play 
    	pool.
    
    	I think the reason the Red Square didn't fare so well is
    	that they wouldn't book cover bands.  Now while most of us
    	are open to new, original music, when most folks go out
    	clubbing, they go for cover bands.  Also, the Red Square paid
    	squat and bands would have to split the door monies with the 3-4
    	other bands that played the same night.  The club is just too
    	inflexible.
    
1175.105DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Sep 11 1996 14:466
    I guess Sharkey's isn't the place I'm thinking of.
    
    Headliners was on Canal Street near the Dunkin Donuts.
               ---
    
    Headliners closed up many many years ago.
1175.106DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Sep 11 1996 14:547
    > I think the reason the Red Square didn't fare so well is
    > that they wouldn't book cover bands. 
    
    Cover bands get paid, original bands usually have some kind of
    arrangement that boils down to "little or no money".
    
    	db
1175.107EDWIN::HOOKERThu Sep 12 1996 11:4720
1175.108WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlMon Sep 23 1996 07:4412
1175.109EDWIN::HOOKERMon Sep 23 1996 08:1256
1175.110EDWIN::HOOKERTue Oct 01 1996 12:3628
1175.111BUSY::SLABSnap your fingers, I&#039;m a lunatic!Tue Oct 01 1996 12:544
1175.112BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsTue Oct 01 1996 13:112
1175.113STRATA::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youTue Oct 01 1996 20:476
1175.114Be For_Warned.WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlWed Oct 02 1996 05:584
1175.115STRATA::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youWed Oct 02 1996 06:035
1175.116for _AlPOWDML::BUCKLEYPhabulous Phoenix Phall PhunfestWed Oct 02 1996 09:087
1175.117BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsWed Oct 02 1996 09:181
1175.118CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Oct 02 1996 09:195
1175.119POWDML::BUCKLEYPhabulous Phoenix Phall PhunfestWed Oct 02 1996 09:312
1175.120Let's DECjam an Abba-free zoneDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Oct 02 1996 10:4013
1175.121EDWIN::HOOKERWed Oct 02 1996 15:5912
1175.122CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Oct 02 1996 16:511
1175.123CASINO::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youThu Oct 03 1996 01:4613
1175.124creeping death!SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu Oct 03 1996 07:196
1175.125DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Oct 03 1996 08:389
1175.126Cystic Bowels rises from the deadCADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandThu Oct 03 1996 09:101
1175.127EDWIN::HOOKERThu Oct 03 1996 13:3820
1175.128BUSY::SLABThe stakes are high, and so am I.Thu Oct 03 1996 13:425
1175.129EDWIN::HOOKERThu Oct 03 1996 13:4634
1175.130BUSY::SLABThe word for today is legs ...Thu Oct 03 1996 14:055
1175.131DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Oct 03 1996 15:068
1175.132SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu Oct 03 1996 15:097
1175.133BUSY::SLABThey call me Dr. LoveThu Oct 03 1996 15:259
1175.134DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Oct 03 1996 16:0116
1175.135ok then..STRATA::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youThu Oct 03 1996 21:309
1175.136WooosterFABSIX::M_CADIEUXKADOUFri Oct 04 1996 06:072
1175.137STRATA::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youFri Oct 04 1996 06:334
1175.138DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Fri Oct 04 1996 08:566
1175.139EDWIN::HOOKERFri Oct 04 1996 10:0944
1175.140DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Fri Oct 04 1996 10:316
1175.141BUSY::SLABToo much oral defecation&quot;Fri Oct 04 1996 10:357
1175.142EDWIN::HOOKERFri Oct 04 1996 12:1111
1175.143And they Are Awesome!BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsFri Oct 04 1996 12:536
1175.144EDWIN::HOOKERFri Oct 04 1996 14:093
1175.145maybePOOKY::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Fri Oct 04 1996 14:189
1175.146That_Would_Be-Great!!\WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlMon Oct 07 1996 05:194
1175.147BUSY::SLABWhose Line Is It Anyway?Mon Oct 07 1996 09:075
1175.148BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsMon Oct 07 1996 09:453
1175.149BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsMon Oct 07 1996 09:471
1175.150BUSY::SLABWhy don&#039;t you bend for gold?Mon Oct 07 1996 09:535
1175.151BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsMon Oct 07 1996 10:241
1175.152EDWIN::HOOKERWed Oct 09 1996 12:0917
1175.153BUSY::SLABTo the Batmobile ... let&#039;s go!!!Wed Oct 16 1996 09:389
1175.154BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsWed Oct 16 1996 09:403
1175.155SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienWed Oct 16 1996 10:5914
1175.156Since Shawn brought it upDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Oct 16 1996 14:0913
1175.157CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Oct 16 1996 14:244
1175.158BUSY::SLABWe all, we all, love it - LOUD!!Wed Oct 16 1996 14:283
1175.159BUSY::SLABWe all, we all, love it - LOUD!!Wed Oct 16 1996 14:285
1175.160DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Oct 16 1996 14:459
1175.161BUSY::SLABWe all, we all, love it - LOUD!!Wed Oct 16 1996 14:483
1175.162CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Oct 16 1996 14:5011
1175.163Hearing lossDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Oct 16 1996 16:0736
1175.164Good ear plugs are a must!TMAWKO::BELLAMYWhat fresh hell is this?Thu Oct 17 1996 07:4613
1175.165BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsThu Oct 17 1996 08:148
1175.166POWDML::BUCKLEYThu Oct 17 1996 08:213
1175.167BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsThu Oct 17 1996 08:442
1175.168Map to the cove in PostscriptDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri Oct 18 1996 09:089
1175.169like Mikey in Clinton!POOKY::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Fri Oct 18 1996 09:145
1175.170EDWIN::HOOKERFri Oct 18 1996 09:3711
1175.171EDWIN::HOOKERFri Oct 18 1996 09:4736
1175.172SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Oct 18 1996 13:586
1175.173POOKY::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Fri Oct 18 1996 14:036
1175.174SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Oct 18 1996 14:069
1175.175heheheSUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Oct 18 1996 14:1212
1175.176BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Oct 18 1996 14:266
1175.177hey...what have you heard about my singing?SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Oct 18 1996 14:3112
1175.178SCASS1::BARBER_AYou&#039;re the one who&#039;s crazy!Fri Oct 18 1996 14:331
1175.179 8)SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Oct 18 1996 15:439
1175.180A sobering thoughtDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri Oct 18 1996 15:591
1175.181BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Oct 18 1996 16:021
1175.182boak=vomit!SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Oct 18 1996 17:059
1175.183AKOMI1::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Fri Oct 18 1996 23:355
1175.184DECjam 1996POWDML::BUCKLEYMon Oct 21 1996 08:0482
1175.185POWDML::BUCKLEYMon Oct 21 1996 10:0215
1175.186POWDML::BUCKLEYMon Oct 21 1996 11:1652
1175.187BUSY::SLABBuzzword BingoMon Oct 21 1996 11:255
1175.188DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceMon Oct 21 1996 12:0018
1175.189JUGHED::FLATTERYMon Oct 21 1996 12:3212
1175.190BUSY::SLABCatch you later!!Mon Oct 21 1996 15:4219
1175.191POWDML::BUCKLEYTue Oct 22 1996 09:164
1175.192BUSY::SLABDancin&#039; on CoalsTue Oct 22 1996 09:446
1175.193STRATA::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youWed Oct 23 1996 20:256
1175.194CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Oct 23 1996 21:232
1175.195STRATA::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youWed Oct 23 1996 21:273