Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    If nobody replies to this, I'm deleting it.

    I hope they don't have a topic already.					
    

    Bad deal, My replacement is here. c-ya
    
    					dave
    

    Nope, I did a "dir/tit=marilyn".
    
    So, Dave, tell us more about 'em.  I already told you I've only heard
    one of their songs.  Seemed to have a pretty good groove, but they look
    like a bunch of psychos.
    
    Did you know that each band member is named 1/2 after a pop icon and
    1/2 after a serial killer???

    Boo, just when we got started.  8P

    re .5
     .....and I don't know jacks**t about these guys.

    I`m waiting on a reply also. I havn`t had the pleasure of hearing them
    very much, but I`m always looking for dark new heavy bands.

    Holy......what have I done now??  
    
    ;)     

         Looks like we're all here. Does anyone have any information on
    tour dates? I heard a rumor on the radio that Marylin Manson might
    be on tour in April. 
    
    

    I'll post some stuff tomorrow when I have time.  
    
    Maybe CQ can enlighten us?

    Back when I was on my marathon Dream Theater multi-state gig tour,
    Marilyn Manson was playing all the same clubs as DT -- only days
    before or after (similar tour schedule, I guess?!).
    
    Never hear of these guys before, but I though they had an interesting
    "look" from the posters hanging up at the clubs.  Sort of like NIN
    meets the vampyre gothic scene.
    
    Although I had seen chat rooms on AOL about MM, which touted them as
    an industrial band, I *finally* heard a song and have to admit I was
    rather unimpressed.  They didn't strike me as industrial at ALL?!?
    Their song also didn't really catch my ears.  STill, the marketing of
    the band looks pretty appealing.

    Thanks for the info, Buck.  I still can't decide if I want to take a
    chance and buy this CD.  I would gladly accept a dub if someone would
    be so kind.  8)

	The music is an attempt at satanity (sic).  At least the monikers are.
	It's not EZ listening, again as mentioned before, lots of people
	put them in the same fold as NiN, I don't personally because I think
	Trent has more natural energy and aura.  MM is into childish pranks
	and seems to try to appeal to the younger (much) audience.  Trent
	is much more advanced than that, although the younger audience throws 
	their lust at him, especially female types.

	/Cap'n Quad

    Quote from Mr. Marilyn Manson himself:
    
    "You spoonfed us Saturday morning mouthfuls of maggots and lies
    disguised in
        your sugary breakfast cereals. The plates you made us clean were
    filled with your fears. These things have
        hardened in our soft pink bellies. We are what you have made us. We
    have grown up watching your television. We
        are a symptom of your Christian America, the biggest Satan of
    all..." 
    
                   "This is your world in which we grow. And we will grow
    to hate you."
    
    

	
	
	I went to your schools, I went to you're churches, I went to your 
	institutionalized learning facilities...Mike Muir

	/Cap'n Quad_who_only_wanted_a_pepsi_and_they_wouldn't_give_it_to_me!

	

    Hey, take it to the Suicidal topic!  8)
    
    MM's page is called the Church of the AntiChrist Superstar.
    
    What a shame he's one of _those_...

    I'm back. Not enough discussion on Marilyn Manson, too much shooting
    the stuff.I can't get soapbox back , because I already added soapbox in
    an attempt to get it back. How do I delete my generic soapbox and get
    the good one back. Oh, yeah, thanx for the help april. maybe I'll draw
    you a picture as a token of my gratitude.
    
    					dave

    delete entry soapbox
    
    add entry back40::soapbox

    April for President '96!!!!!!
    She brought the MADHATTA back from the dead!!!!
    

    Now, back to our show:
    
    marilyn manson
    
                              aka: reverend marilyn manson...mr.
    manson...antichrist superstar
    
                                                   accused of:
    
                      backwards masking...polaroids...child
    manipulations...spitting...self-mutilation...
    
                                                            
    
                                              twiggy ramirez
    
                                                   accused of:
    
                               base tendencies...mini-cassette...fag
    bass...wigs...glitter...
    
                                                          
    
                                              daisy berkowitz
    
                                                   accused of:
    
                   psychoacoustical guitars...analog distorted filth
    box...electric twangdoodles...cigarettes...
    
                                                          
    
                                           madonna wayne gacy
    
                                                  aka: pogo
    
                                                   accused of:
    
                   theremin...brass...babies...distorted
    muzette...loops...sound deformation...poop games...
    
                                                          
    
                                                ginger fish
    
                                                   accused of:
    
                                             kiddie pops...hitting...
    
    
                         

    OK, MM.
    
    
    	I first saw them at the Boston Garden open up for NIN.
    They put on a pretty good show, but it was also pretty tame for them.
    Me and my friends bought the CD and were blown away. The first song,
    "cake and sodomy" is the best, but I like all of them. Well, they
    headlined at the Middle East in Cambridge in Feb,95 so we saw them in a
    club setting, and it was the best (and most violent) show I've been to.
    Monster Voodoo Machine opened up, so the pit was good and warm for MM.
    An interesting side note, my friend and I went to the bathroom before
    MM went on and a guy with blue hair came in, looked in the mirror and
    made a comment about he had too much mascara on, it ended up being
    Twiggy Ramirez. The crowd was pretty much divided in 3: a) the curious
    who had heard MM and decided to check it out, b) the hard core MM fans
    decked out in black lipstick and dresses for both male and female, and
    c) the frat type who like to go to pits to try to be involved in what
    they see as senseless violence. MM hit the stage and everything
    erupted. The band exposed themselves, some of the crowd exposed
    themselves, some of the crowd participated in sex acts with the band,
    some of the crowd participated in sex acts with the crowd, Mr. Manson
    beat the living whatever out of some guy who jumped on stage. There was
    more blood and snot and body fluid than you've ever seen. It's probably
    the best show I've been to since House of Pain/Cypress Hill.
    	MM put out a new record, but it's just cheesy mixes of old songs. I
    will definitely go see them again. I heard you can't buy their albums
    in the UK.
    
    					dave

    
    	So, in a nutshell, the band and the fans are a bunch of morons?
    

Sigh, I must be getting old.  You just described a nightmare...

    It's entertaining to say the least. Not for everybody, but then, I
    don't listen to Poison or Whitesnake or GNR.
    
    			dave

    I'm curious about these "sex acts".
    
    What is this world coming to?

    
    	Not sure about the world, but it sounds like the audience is
    	coming to the beat of a very different drum[mer].
    

    You'd have to see it to understand, I guess, and even then you might
    not understand.  Mind you, *I* wasn't participating in the sex acts.
    But it was a weird kind of atmosphere-there were no police or security
    and so there were no rules. I liked it.
    
    				dave

    Sounds dangerous - in more ways than one.
    
    I guess I got older too - but then, I'm still alive.   It was kinda
    touch-n-go there for a while.
    Mike
    

    That was kind of the lure of it all, the danger. I never know when
    somebody would just be "dancing" in the pit and decide to hit me with a
    chair, because it happened a couple of times to other people. Telling
    ya, it was the best $15 I ever spent.
    
    				dave

    -1 that's why I love/hate moshpits.  They're fun to watch, but try
    being a girl and getting stuck in one.  "HEY!  OW!  HEY!!  OUUUUCCH!!"
    
    

    
    Combat boots should be banned from mosh pits!
    
    IMO of course!
    
    /jen

    
    	And pointy bras!!  And metal chastity belts!!
    
    	Yeah, I hate those things!!
    

>there were no police or security and so there were no rules. 

How was this possible?  Was this in the U.S.?

    I prefer wearing my grey suade adidas gazelles or my suade pumas in a
    mosh pit. I used to wear combat boots but that got foolish after all
    the Mtv people got into it. Speaking of which , I hear Metallica( I
    know I'm not going to make any friends , but, they sold out) are going
    to be on Lollapalooza this year. Another tradition ruined.
    
    				dave

    
    I guess moshpits fall into the same category as Tatoos for me...I just
    don't get the appeal!
    
    /jen

    The show was in Cambridge Mass.
    I don't know how it's possible, or maybe the bouncers hid in the back
    and dressed like everybody else, because they certainly did nothing to
    end the many beatings that took place that night. Nobody got thrown out
    to my knowledge.
    
    					dave

    .36 me too, much better ways.
    
    I was just wondering where all these bruises came from.  ;)

    sounz like my kinda show
    

    re. tattoos and moshpits
    
    
    	Everybody has their own taste. Some don't like tattoos and
    moshpits, but I do. Like I said ,I really don't like Poison, but if
    that's your thing, cool by me.
    
    			dave

    
    	If you don't like poison, why're you having all that ink injected
    	into your skin?
    

    >> If you don't like poison, why're you having all that ink injected 
    into your skin?
    
    
    It's only poison if you have an allergic reaction to the ink, which is
    really bad news. I believe the body is a beautiful thing worthy of
    being decorated by beautiful pictures. As long as the ink means
    something to you , and you don't get a picture of the taz wearing an
    Ac/Dc shirt, you won't regret it.
    
    			dave.

    
    >I believe the body is a beautiful thing worthy of
    >being decorated by beautiful pictures.
    
    	To me, this sentence contradicts itself, but to each his own.
    
    
    	I've got a friend who's working on getting completely covered.
    	His skin must be worth about $15K by now, and he hasn't even
    	gotten his back done yet.  After that's done, my estimate is
    	about $22K.
    

    
    Gee he'd be bumming if that wacko from Silence of the Lambs got ahold
    of him!
    
    /j

    I won't get covered. I only have one tattoo , but I'll be getting
    another soon. both will mean something to me.

    
    	"Yeah, this is a very special tattoo.  It's the 1st one I ever
    	got."
    
    	"Oh, the other one?  Yeah, it's even more special ... because
    	it's the last one I ever got."
    
    
    	[I crack myself up!!]
    

    I just had an interesting conversation with our biggest MM fan.
    
    Dave, (ahem) is a very fast talker.

    No, my first one is a tribal with a sun representing a combination of
    nurturing and strength.
    My second one will be a tribal woman as a tribute to my mother.

    You've been trusted with secrets April, don't blow it!!!
    
    
    
    
    					DAVE

    I'm cool.  8)

    That's why I trusted you!!!

    .26 you're hopeless.

         Good afternoon, everybody. Any word yet on tour dates?

    .43 I can see what you mean.  On the one hand, you could look at it
    this way:  You're body is a temple and you shouldn't put grafitti all
    over it (but we already know DAVE's specialty if grafitti, so.. 8)  And
    on the other hand you could look at it DAVE's way and see it as
    ornamental.  I couldn't personally get a tattoo because of the element
    of pain, but I can appreciate a good one on somebody else.  

    
    	After reading that concert review, you still want to see this
    	band?
    
    	April, I'M hopeless?!?!
    

    No tour dates past February, on the homepage anyway.

    Who said I still wanna see them, Shawn?
    
    I think you missed my "point".

    RE. tattoos and pain
    
    	They really don't hurt that much. Maybe because you hear all your
    life how bad it will be.  It's just like a little burning sensation,
    more annoying than painful. Besides, if you want something bad enough
    you are willing to sacrifice one hour of pain for something you'll have
    for the rest of your life.
    
    				dave

    
    	RE: April
    
    	Not you, E_WALKER.  Your reply snuck in there while I was put-
    	ting mine in.
    

    -1 There you go again.
    
    Dave, last time I had a burning sensation, they gave me antibiodics.
    
    8)

    Were you being a bad girl or was it just by chance?

         Please, call me Ed. Any worthwhile tours in March at all?
    

    AhemDave, don't forget to delete that last mail I sent ya.
    
    I'll keep checking on tour dates for you, Ed.  But if you want to see
    action like that, you can come to my house on any given night.
    
    'prilmonster

    mail deleted.
    
    What's with "smelly cat, it's not your fault"?
    do you have a cat?
    
    I have 2, Elijah Mohammad and Minister Chauncy.
    I won't tell about them until I'm sure there's somebody who gives a
    rat's @%#.

    }}mail deleted.
    
    check!
    
    }}What's with "smelly cat, it's not your fault"?
    }}do you have a cat?
    
    Naw it's from Friends.  The song goes:
    
    Smelly cat, smelly cat, what are they feeding you?
    Smelly cat, smelly cat, it's not your fault!
    
    There's a buncha cool lyrics in between but I'll have to watch it again
    (and believe me I will) to get it right.  
    
    Don't you watch that show?!?!  8)
    
    }}I have 2, Elijah Mohammad and Minister Chauncy.
    
    Cool names.  I'd like to hear about them.  Something tells me you named
    them. 8)

    Reply .63-
       
         I like what I'm hearing. What city is your house in anyway? I'm in
    Colorado Springs. 

    Euless, Texas.  Just outside Dallas, or Fort Worth...about the same
    distance either way really.
    
    I was just kidding Ed, my house is the perfect specimen of domestic
    tranquility.  8)

         Too far away. No one seems to be replying to any of my notes
    tonight. I got better responses when I was rude to everyone. Did anyone
    see what happened to the Soapbox conference we lit up yesterday? They 
    insulted us and said we were "schmoozing." I wouldn't take that if I
    were you, MADHATTA. Go slam that clown. 

    
    Marylin Manson....talentless bags o' shite!
    
    
    							Ian

    Pril is from Clueless, TX

    	re .69
    
    	Ian, you're beginning to sound like Buck...
    
    	Tattoos, body piercing: first steps toward self mutilation.
    	I've always believed one can do anything they want in this
    	world, just don't harm your fellow man (person). You like
    	mutilating yourself, go right ahead. 
    
    	My opinion about satanic lyrics has changed drastically
    	since the mid-late 80's, when Slayer was king.
    
    	Boils down to this, if you like death so much, fine.
    	Leave the rest of the world to those who enjoy life, and
    	would like to enjoy living life.
    
    	Just a couple of opinions, nothing else...
    
    	Face

I really don't care what they do to themselves either but the truth is,they're
talentless idiots.

all their antics are ripping off Alice Cooper except he did them 20 years ago

    Buck, at lease you didn't say USELESS, Texas.  That was always real
    funny until I moved there.  8)
    
    Ed, don't expect anything from Soapbox.  You can have more fun in here
    anyway.  8)

    Since I went home there has been nothing but nasty things about MM.
    Ripping off Alice Cooper? What alice did was a tepid bowl of soup
    compared to what MM is doing now. Mister Manson is an ordained Minister
    in Anton Lafabre's Church of Satan. I myself am a Christian, and these
    guys can worship whoever they want, the music's good. Mutilation,
    matter of opinion, I feel, as I've said before, that I'm decorating my
    body. I wouldn't pierce anything important, such as tongue, lip, or
    (gulp) THAT, but I have my nipple, belly button, and ears done. I would
    like to do my eyebrow, but I don't think it would fit the image I'm
    forced to portray here, which is why I don't wear my earrings. As far
    as my tattoos, I won't ever get anything I can't hide with a short
    sleeve shirt. I currently have one(which is really 2 mixed together) on
    my shoulder/bicep, and the one I aspire to get will go on my calf.
    Tattoos on your face, knuckles, etc, I see as mutilation.
    
    			dave

    
    
    the guy is called Anton LaVey...if you want to get pedantic.
    
    
    btw...I meant the painting of the faces and the dressing up.
    
    also,they're still shite!
    
    						Ian

    
    re: -1
    
    Tattoos...lesse, I've got Savatage HOTMK on his throne on one side of
    my upper back (not really big) and an eagles head on the other side,
    I've got a dragon/snake fighting on right shoulder, pirates head with
    eye patch over crossed swords on left should, nickname with added
    lightning bolt on left arm, sunset w/little birdy squiggly lines on
    right arm, and eagle on top of dagger with ribbon wrapped around it
    with "death before dishonor" on the ribbon (oldest one, since 1981).
    No new ink on my mind yet, but I'd love to have "The Spawn" done in one
    of his poses like on edge of rooftop!
    
    As for Marylin Manson, I've heard them, they are a bunch of freaky
    looking dudes, that's for sure! They didn't do anything for me
    musically at all. There was another band that had a demo out last year
    but can't think of their name, they do a cover of Princes "Nikki" with
    some cool vocals to "then nikki started to GRIND"! You have to hear it
    to understand how it sounds! I wish I could think of who this is, they 
    sounded pretty good!
    
    MM can go disappear in my opinion, and I agree they are doing stuff AC
    did 20 yrs ago, just more sickening!
    
    

    If in fact you are "proud" of your tattoos, why put them somewhere that
    is easily hidden?  Who are you hiding them from??
    My theory of "art" is that it is meant to be seen.  Take pride in your
    choices, and show em off!  If someone doesn't like them..
    
    TOO BAD!
    They are not on their bodies, they are on yours.
    I have 4 and my wife doesn't really like one of them ( no GTI it's not
    a nekkid chick) but I don't try to hide it!
    
    
    Live free, let em show!
    
    Paully
     

    
    	Paully, please don't tell me it's a tattoo of a naked man!!
    

    I do show them quite often, I wear a lot of basketball shirts in the
    summer , if any shirt at all.
    However, unfortunately we live in a world where being tattood causes
    one to have all kinds of stereotypes put on them. If I'm at the beach,
    I share your "who cares"attitude, but a lot of people find them
    inappropriate in a business atmosphere.
    When I get tattood, I spend a lot of time making sure it isn't
    something I'll regret later. If I go to a job interview and don't get
    hired because of a picture, I would regret that picture. I wish it
    wasn't this way, but it is
    BTW- what is the picture of that your wife doesn't like? My girlfriend
    likes mine, but she doesn't want me to get too much more. She says the
    only reason she likes it is because it fits my personality.
    
    				dave

    ..ahem,........ARRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!.......thanks
    i feel so much better............................................../k 

    How do you equate a scar (injury) with a picture intentionally placed
    on the skin? I really think you picture people with tazmanian devils
    or Mickey Mouse or a big scratchy cross when you think of tattoos. I
    looked for the design I wanted for around 6 years before getting it.
    I'm not one of those people who went to a parlor the day they turned 18
    and picked a skull off the wall. 
    
    By the by, scarification is actually a little trendy now in the NYC
    club scene. Otherwise known as branding, the artist heats up a metal
    plate (called a striker) and strikes as many as 1,000 times until the
    desired design comes out. The popularity began with African American
    fraternities, and athletes such as Michael Jordan, Mo Vaughn, and
    others have them. I don't necessarily think scarification is that
    attractive, but if you want to tell Mo Vaughn it's foolish go ahead.
    
    
    
    
    						dave

    You cannot sedate
    all the things you hate.
    
    
    So what is it you are so opposed to in regards to body modification?
    
    				dave

    The only body modification I'm into is flab-reduction.  8)
    
    FWIW dave, I appreciate your insight and on this.  For the most part, I
    agree with you.

    Thank you april. You're too damn cool to live in Texas. I think you
    should relocate to the east coast and you can go to shows with me!!
    
    					dave

    You're welcome, and THANKS!  It would be cool, but let me tell you,
    Texas is much meaner and greener!!

    Yeah, but I was in the airport at Dallas/Ft. Worth and the people were
    dressed funny. The food was nothing to write home about, either.
    
    				dave
    

    Are you talking about AIRPORT food ???  No wonder!
    
    BLECK-O-RAMA-MAMA
    
    'pril 
    
    p.s. I subscribed to the MM mailing list "SpookyKids" and now I've got
    like 100 e-mails I can't even understand!  I gotta unsubscribe before 
    this gets outta hand!!
    
    p.s.s. Dave, read your mail, then delete it!  

    Read the mail, deleted it.
    
    Yeah, why would you go on that mailing list after I told you what
    wackos the fans were!!!
    
    		Silly girl!!!

    Wacko-city dude.  You have no idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    

    
    re: .77
    
    I am proud of the ones I have but I also share the feeling that if you
    go for a job interview and they "see" them it could put a bias against
    you. I am not "hiding" them. They are where they are because I so chose
    to have them put there. I wear tank tops (normal/semi-muscle style) as
    much as possible outside of work. Can't wear them here, which is ok, I
    sometimes bring in a t-top and put it on before I head out the door. I
    have gotten a few head turns, but that's how it goes most of the time.
    If they haven't seen the one on my forearm, like in winter time wearing
    long-sleeve shirts, they don't realize I have any until it is t-shirt
    time! 
    
    I agree if someone doesn't like them, TOO BAD! It IS on MY body, and
    yes I will have to wear them till I am shriveled and dead, but I chose
    it!
    
    Mike
    

    >>           <<< Note 1129.88 by CSLALL::SECURITY "MADHATTA" >>>
    >>
    >>Yeah, but I was in the airport at Dallas/Ft. Worth and the people were
    >>dressed funny. 
    
    "Dressed funny"??  You mean cuz hats, boots n wranglers are the std
    fare?  That's not dressing funny -- I still dress that way from time
    to time out here -- old habits die hard, you know.

    	Not dressed like the locals? Oh well...
    
    	Self-branding is just a disguise, to me it still means
    	self-mutilation.
    
    	How about putting out cigarettes on yourself? Leaves some
    	nice "decorations".
    
    	Did you know that you'll lose your chance at a modeling career
    	if you start "decorating" yourself?
    
    	But I don't think this band is worried about their modeling
    	careers...

    If you want to keep your body boring and undecorated like a piece of
    wonder bread, go ahead, but why criticize people who like to touch it
    up a little?

My body isn't wonder bread - it's more like a twinkie...

    I read the other day that hostess is adding more filling to the twinkie
    with no additional charge.
    
    				dave

    
    I think I'd rather be boring right now than look like an old arsehole
    when I'm in my 60's~
    
    "grand-dad,why is there a huge purple blob on yer back?"
    
    "well,that's when I was young'n'silly and got a tattoo is a nekkid
    valkyrie riding a moped...it was trendy in the 90's...honest!?!!" 8)
    
    too each their own!
    
    
    						Ian

    re; -1...and that philosophy is the reason i married you...;")

    
    grins! 8^)
    
    
    					ian

    ...just dont' make that 'ratboy' face at me...i hate that....;")
    

    
    	RE: Ian/Karen
    
    	Oh, how sweet.  8^)
    
    
    
    	Ian, mopeds have NEVER been "in".  8^)
    

    ..shawn...you've never been 'in' either but that has never stopped you
    from opening up that big, albeit, dumb mouth of yours now has it....;")
                                                                   /k

    
    	Hugs, Karen.
    

         This conference started off okay, but it has ended in total
    disaster. Quit defiling HEAVY METAL with your lame and pointless notes.
    Go take it to FRIENDS. Speaking of FRIENDS, did VAXCAT really shut
    down, or was I just thrown out for good?
    

    
    	There's a good chance you were thrown out.
    

         I guess I wasn't "FRIEND"ly enough. No great loss. You would
    think those clowns would enjoy getting shaken up. 
    

    
    MR E_WALKER, sorry, don't know your first name.
    
    VAXCAT is ill that's all.  Maybe you pushed it over the edge but they
    say it will be running again soon.
    
    /jen

    
    	Jen, call him Sam.
    

    His name's Ed...

    
    	Call him Sam anyways.
    

         You're going to think I'm the Son of Sam if you don't stop calling
    me "Sam". My name is "Ed"! 

    Let me tell you a little story 'bout my homeboy Ed
    used to drink every day straight 40 to the head
    you try to snap on him he'd ask what you said
    you still try to roll he start givin' up lead
    
    loved to gamble on one knee he stayed
    tryin' to hit 7 and all night he played
    worked teasin'  weights so he always got paid
    blew on the ho's every dollar he made
    
    crazy friends crazy friends he had
    superfly drove, super dope pad
    cars for your a** and I'm talkin' about class
    Benzes and better with his name on the dash
    one night he got drunk and started drivin' real fast...
    
    ED'S DEAD
    
    
    					- Ice T, as heard on OG, Original 
    					  Gangsta

    Do you like green eggs and ham?
    I do not like them, Sam I am.
    I would not eat them on a boat
    I would not eat them with a goat
    I would not eat them in a house
    I would not eat them with a mouse
    I do not like green eggs and ham
    I will not eat them, Sam I am
    
    		
    					- Dr. Seuss

         I like that ICE_T thing, but all this Sam stuff has to go. I'll
    get SLABOUNTY for posting my middle name, if it's the last thing I ever
    do. What's the M in his name stand for, Moron? I see he's a Materials
    Analyst. No wonder he has so much free time. I'm waiting for materials
    right now thanks to lazy clowns like him. 

    I wish you would stop using the term "clown" as a derrogatory
    statement. Why do you think so many clowns end up being serial killers?
    Because they have low self esteem thanks to people like you. Cut it
    out, man, clowns are people too.
    
    				dave

         You're right. Calling SLABOUNTY a "clown" was an insult to clowns
    everywhere. But the moderators always cut in when I try to use anything
    really appropriate. 

    -1 Hey, speaking of moderator...
    
    hehehehehe

    ....weird but cool music out of this band I like them.
    

    I heard one of their songs last night on the radio.  It was a cover
    tune of an old pop song, can't remember the name of the tune...but it
    sounded KILLER!!

	"I Put a Spell on You"

	/CQ

    AND Do not call My Shawn a clown. thank you very much.
    
    Have a Nice day..

    
    	Thanks, Sue honey.
    

    Really, Ed.  If the best you can do is sling insults, then go find 
    somewhere else to do it.  I think I speak for more than a handful of 
    people when I say I don't like to see every other note being a 
    deliberate slam on someone else, especially when that person is much 
    more highly esteemed by me (us) than you are.  Just go away, and we'll
    forget we ever knew you, it shouldn't be too hard.

    	I guess you could say this band brings out the worst in people.
    
    	If that's entertaining, no problem...
    
    	I've met Shawn, he wasn't a clown. In person he was polite,
    	pleasant to meet, gave me his honest opinion of the show,
    	smiled, shook my hand and went home.
    
    	Every person is entitled to their own opinion, but usually
    	it's best to reserve one's opinion on another person until
    	actually meeting them.
    
    	Notes is very impersonal, don't take a comment made in here
    	too seriously. Life's too short...

    I Dunno..
     Last Time A Saw Shawn He was Wearin This Red_Rubber Nose and His
    Shoes were Way Over_Sized.And He Kept Callin Fer
    Some_Called"Butchy_Boy"...    :_)
    
      No..Met Am Once.A Fine_Gent and He's Helped me Out with Techno_Weenie
    Stuff.
    
    Mr.Ed.....Please Keep Notin..But If yer Gonna SLAM,Do it with Panache.
    
    
       Crazy_I_Said_The_"P"_Word_Al

    
    	[sniff]
    
    	I love you guys!!
    

    	re .127
    
    	The P word? Paranoia? I have a friend who's seeing a psychiatrist,
    	when I called her paranoid (it was a joke), she lost it, hasn't
    	spoken to me since. Now THAT'S a P-word...
    
    	re .128
    
    	You're not getting my Bud Lite, pal...
    
    	Shhhhyaaaa, you can have it all. Wouldn't drink that cow
    	urine if you paid me. Unless of course you're talking more
    	than 10,000 clams, sure I'll drink it.

    M M has also done a cover tune of "Sweet Dreams" by the Eyrthmics (sp)
    it sound Fu*kin wicked.  I havn't heard anything else by them though. 
    Can anybody tell me a good album to buy from them or do they only have
    one out?
    

    YES!  Sweet Dreams was the tune!  It was really cool.  I had someone
    else tell me to get "Portrait of an American Family"...I think it was
    um, DAVE, yeah that's it.

         These guys sound like another parrot band. Can't anyone do
    anything original anymore? Someone, please start another topic. And
    this time, make it about a decent band. 

    MM has 2 albums out:
    
    Portrait of an American Family: awesome, 4 stars, 2 triumphant thumbs
    up, etc.
    
    Tastes like children: Mostly remixes of tunes on "Portrait", except
    "sweet dreams" and "Rock and Roll #&%%@%", covers by the Eurythmics and
    Patty Smith, respectively. OK, 2 stars, funny at times. Would own it if
    somebody gave it to me at half price.
    
    					dave

    Reply to BSS::E_WALKER 
      Hey!  If you don't like the band don't get into it's conferance!

    
    	Ed doesn't seem to like anything except little girls.
    
    	8^)
    

    Its Obvious.

    Let's try not to dignify his entries!  All he wants is a negative
    reaction.  This is obvious from his intro, where he admits he's an
    a$$hole.  Ignore it and hopefully it will go away
    
    Paully
    

      Thanks for the tips on MM I'll buy it this weekend.

    You'll thank me again after you buy it!!! Glad to help.

    
    I saw these guys on 120 minutes the other night doing their cover of
    "sweet dreams".....utter bollocks!
    
    
    						ian

    -1
    
    Is it good to be utter bollocks???

    Not if your from Scotland.
    
    8)

    
    re-2
    
    "utter bollocks" is a very negative term! 8)
    
    
    
    						Ian

    That's too bad...I really think these guys are cool, but I can
    appreciate where they might be too much for some people. I saw the
    video, but they had a better one for "Lunchbox" (that's not how I got
    the name) off of their first album. The song is all about a little kid
    who is going to whack a bully with his lunchbox, if anybody cares.

    
    
    
    I saw the new video... That guy scares me!! 
    
    One white eye, one black.. The scene with him riding the pig was 
    pretty interesting.. 
    
    They show a picture of his chest and stomach and it's all scarred up..
    
    Whit-

    
    I finally got to hear what this band sounds like.
    I heard their version of Sweet Dreams (are made of these) on the radio
    yesterday. I can't say I'm too impressed. Mind you, I never did like
    that song to begin with, but they didn't do anything on that song to
    peak my intrest level any.
    
    Dave
    

    I'm with you davey!  I heard it too!
    
    Paully
    

    Why do they call you LUNCHBOX, anyways??

       Re. 147
    
    Didn't like the song back then- don't like it now.

    They started calling me Lunchbox in SOAPBOX, I think there was another
    Dave or something. 
    
    Yeah, he's pretty scarred and tattoo'd. At the show I saw he broke a
    light bulb on his chest, mind you it was plugged in. Their whole thing
    is how scary they are. They're pretty good at it.

       re .-1
    
     Ah yes, I remember.  Stay away from that Salvi Trial topic , eh
    lunchbox.
    -ss

    Saw the vieo for Sweet Dreams (Are made of these) on TV last night.
    Thanks...No.
    
    These guys seem talentless, and amazingly ugly to look at AND
    hear...  Thought I was looking at an Alice Cooper video that he
    shot in his bedroom...
    
    jc (With his $.02)

    I second my husband's opinion.  How did these guys get signed?
    
    

    Dunno...
    But Please Lets not Compare Alice to these Guys....
    Maybe Some of The Shock Theatrics....But Thats it.
    
    
    Crazy_Maybe_They'll_Just_Go_Away_Al

       Glad to see I'm not the only one.
    -ss

    I wouldn't say they SOUNDED like Alice (my grandmother), but they sure
    swipped the make-up/look...
    
    Agreed about the 15 thing...
    jc

I think they're closer to the New York Dolls.  Check your local bargain bin for
Too Much Too Soon.  David ???  (became Buster Poindexter) did the lead vocals 

    
    	I have The New York Dolls' self-titled album ... didn't do much
    	for me.
    

Shawn didn't like it.

Prosecution rests

    Re: -1
    
    My brain is fried.  I read your last message and thought it said
    
    "prostitution rests"
    
    and I thought..if they do that they won't make much money.
    
    Shane, who is a Hooker

    
      WOW....that was a close one....We could have been just Inches
    away from the Unemployment line....
    
      Phew....

    
    hey..I said the Alice/Marylin comparison thing a few notes back and got
    abuse!Nice to see someone agrees with me.
    
    
    they got signed cuz they're "alternative" hahahaha!
    
    
    					Ian

    They are beyond alternative. Their first album, "portrait of an
    american family" is not to be ignored. While I'm not a big fanatic of
    "sweet dreams", they did a lot better than the eurythmics. It's good
    music, regardless of what you think of their stage show.
    
    
    
    dave

BzzzTTT!!!  Heard this song on WBCN on the way home tonight.  No talent 

Tim

    re.164
    
    Wrong again!  Annie Lennox has one of the best voices of all the female
    singers!  And even if she was the WORST singer....she'd be better than
    these no-talent, wanna-be, poseur, whiners!
    
    Paully 8)
    

    
    I agree with Paully.
    I do not like Anne Lennox or her music, but she does have a good voice.
    
    Dave
    

    Everyone should stop comparing MM with Annie Lennox and the New York
    Dolls and Alice Cooper and anybody else. This band stands on its own.
    They should not be judged on one cover of a cheezy song. I wonder if
    they did the song for the sake of parody. I like it anyway.
    
    dave

    Agreed, Dave.  8)  
    
    I think Marilyn Manson is most def. an acquired taste.  I've listened
    to the CD a few times and I can't seem to get enough of it.  If you can
    get over some of the lyrical content and skip through all the weird
    crap thrown in for theatrics, it's pretty good.  Of course we're
    talking about Portrait of an American Family.  I have the other one and
    it's really hard to bare...there are a few really good spots, but most
    of it is just filler stuff and clips of different conversations with  
    a little backwards masking thrown in for shock value.  
    
    It's a good CD to party too, anyway.  8)  Friday night I went to this
    club and I asked the engineer/DJ guy if he could play a song for me in
    between sets and he played the whole CD until the next band came on!!! 
    It sounds really good loud, obviously.  8)))  

    APRIL COMPLETELY MISSED A SNARF!!!! PIGS CAN BEGIN FLYING NOW!!!!

    oops!!  8)

    
    	It's not like April to pass up a 69.
    

    Heard a rumor MM will be releasing a new venture, called "Antichrist
    Superstar".  Along with a new record comes a new tour. I'm giddy, quite
    frankly. I don't suppose anybody else shares my enthusiasm, though. :>(
    
    
    dave

    I do, Dave ... MM are cool!

	I'm damp

    
    I would like to check these guy's out live. I've heard the Smell's Like 
    Children cd a few time's and thought it was good, although a bit freaky. 
    I just started listening to Lunchbox, all six version's on the single, 
    and it's really growing on me. What else do these guy's have out and
    what would you recomend.......
    
    Later,
    Jim

    Portrait of an American Family is better than Smells Like Children...
    
    I can't wait to see them live.  =8-o

    I hope that they haven't gotten too large...I wouldn't want to see them
    in an arena or anything. I used to go see the Red Hot Chili Peppers
    before MTV ruined them, I'd hate to see MM suffer the same fate. Time
    will tell.
    
    dave

    
    	RHCP ruined themselves by playing crappy music.
    
    	Not that you asked, but hey, that's never stopped me before.
    

    don't worry...MM couldnt' possibly fill an arena...../k

That's gonna leave a mark

    SONOFA !

    
    I love the MM video where the guy is riding around on the pig....it
    makes me laugh!"Get along little piggy" is what I cry when I see it!
    
    8)
    
    
    					Ian

    This file has a new MM convert!

    Too bad:(_ss

    
    
    I just caught the "sweet dreams" video at my buddies last night and
    must say that THIS PERSON REALLY REALLY needs some MAJOR help! This guy
    is definitely a sick person. I hear noone will book them anyplace now
    after their recent playing someplace....
    
    Guy is one SICK puppy! My friends cousin and his buddy said they
    couldn't watch it because it disturbed them....I can see why...sick
    bunch of people in that band, especially the singer...and the scars and
    cigarette burns on his body too....
    
    

    WOW- I havent seen or heard anything by this band... now Im interested!

    
    Catch the video on mtv and you just might change your mind about them!
    I have heard their Portrait cd and wasn't impressed with it, but then
    again, ugly mustard didn't do much for me either, except for the last
    tune. 'pril, is UM on sale in stores?
    
    

    -1 8P and yes, Ugly Mustard is in stores.  That's where I got it, 
    before I ever even heard of/listened to them.
    
    -1 etc. Don't let MM scare you.  They're just acting like total psychos 
    for shock value.  Apparently it's working, eh?  
    
    I know, shame on me for liking them.  Tisk, tisk, tisk.  
    
    'prilmonster

    
    re: -1
    
    @B^}
    
    They don't bother me, but they are fitting right into the shock bit,
    but then again, I don't care for their music. I'd rather listen to Type
    O anyday!!  I was surprised my buddies cousin was "disturbed" by it,
    then again, oh well!
    
    To each his own, I listen to strange stuff at times, I also have a
    fairly wide musical range I listen to also, tangerine dream, sade,
    stevie ray, blues traveler, my dying bride, cathedral, candlemass,
    death, spyro gyra, jeff lorber, lee rittenour(sp), return to forever,
    stanley clark/george duke project(s), etc...oh yeah, george clinton,
    funkadelic! Wierd Al!!  ;-)
    
    

So, how was the Fitchburg show?

    Filthaaaa!

    HAR!
    
    8)

    HA!
    
    Anyone seem the new Aerosmith video??  Is Steven Tyler ripping off
    the Reverend Marilyn Manson or WHAT?!!
    
    Don't agree?  Look at the video next to a cover of MM's SLC cover
    (Marilyn in Dope Hat) and then tell me you don't agree.
    
    Plagarism aside, anyone see MM and Twiggy666 at the Howard Stern
    movie premier in NYC?

    Haven't seen the new Aerosmith vid.  What's the name of the song?
    
    I saw some of Howard's party, but apparantly missed MM.  Boo!
    
    I think the thing I like most about Marilyn is all the different
    influences I hear in their music.  I swear I heard Steven Tyler in 
    "I Put a Spell on You" from the Lost Highway soundtrack.  You know,
    that "Aaaackaaackyaaaack" sound Steven emits so prolificly? 
    
    So, I guess it wouldn't suprise me if Steven was mimicking Marilyn in
    return, afterall.
    
    {burp}
    
    'pril

anyone catch the Spin article on Snoop Doggy Dogg and his remarks about
Manson? They've agreed to collaborate on a song, solely on Snoop's
appreciation of Marylin's "fly delivery" on "Beautiful People."

    Fly Delivery?

    <----  I was about to say the same thing!
    
    	J

    Theres A Segment About MM To_Nite on A Show Called"American Edge."
     It's on at 10PM and is on CNN>
    
    
        Crazy_Smells_Like_Shite_Al

    
    They are shite as you (and ian) put it!  So much for the image is what
    is causing all the hubbub, plus I don't think they're all that talented
    (oops! Now twister ~pril will be on me about some of the bands I am
    more into! I heard MM, didn't care for them, heard Ugly-Mustard, didn't
    much care for them either, but I don't slam 'em like I do MM cuzz I
    just plain can't STAND MM and the losers in the band! ;-)
    
    

Hey, they're not for everyone.  Which is a good thing.

Finally saw the video for "Beautiful People"
wow

It's as deranged and disturbing as the "Sweet Dreams" video, only leaves
out the farm animals (which I appreciated). 

Say what you want about MM, but he makes Alice Cooper's best schlock
look like a kid in a $1.49 plastic Casper halloween mask; definitely 
some phenomenal creativity goes into these videos, they are genuinely
frightening

    
    	You appreciated the farm animals?
    
    	You're sick.
    

I appreciated them being left out.

Actually, I do appreciate farm animals, but probably not for the reasons
you're insinuating, unless you think leather shoes, milk and a good t-bone
are sick.

    
    	A good t-bone?
    
    	Ooh err ... definitely a situation where it's better to give than
    	to receive.
    

    Some would disagree. Mostly females, I think. April? what do you think?

    I love t-bones.  But I'm trying to cut down on red meat, remember? 
    Lots of rabbit food lately.
    
    Oh, you meant...??!?!