Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    	April Barber listed it as one of her current favorites, so may-
    	be she can expand on them?
    
    	I'd like to know, also, since I just ordered the new CD without
    	hearing anything besides "Lump".  But by ordering this 1, I got
    	to go through the "$1.99" section and pick out a bunch of those
    	as well.
    

    When I first saw the video for Lump.... I almost clicked it....
    
    I wanted to click it.   They looked like a band that I would definately
    click.    The repetitious nonsense lyrics sounded like something that I
    would usually click....
    
    BUT... the song was catchy!  I had to let it play through, just to hear
    what the song was like.  And when it ended, I found myself thinking
    "man, that was too short, I was just starting to get into it!"
    
    Then, the more I heard the song on the radio, the more I liked it even,
    until I couldn't get it out of my head!
    
    Then I heard Kitty.  Didn't know who it was at first, but I immediately
    wanted to click it again.  It sounded real dumb at first, but when the
    chorus came in, I found it very catchy!
    
    Again, at the end of the song, I thought it was too short.  Then they
    said it was P.O.T.U.S.A.  I was dumfounded!  How could such a band
    write songs that I would find so catchy!?
    
    I don't know.  All I know is, I like em!
    
    How are the other songs on this album?
    
    Ken

    I just ordered the album myself as well.  
    
    All I know is, everytime I hear "Lump" I lose control...I have to turn
    it up as loud as possible and do some major hair tossin'. 8)
    
    Lump and Kitty are the only songs I've heard...but I'm sure the rest of
    the CD is killer...
    
    'pril

    Re: -1
    herpes is catchy too !  I dunna know.  That kitty song bugs the hell
    out of me.  But like you, when it comes on I don't click it.  I usually
    just continue to complain about how stupid the meow part is and keep
    complaining and becoming irate until the song ends.  
    
    funny thing though about those really catchy tunes is that they 
    usually become very overplayed and you begin to hate them after a
    month or two.  Sometimes I think bands write songs to be 'catchy'
    so they can maximize the airplay and get everyone all buzzed to go
    and buy the cd which is usually filled with crap.  But I guess that's
    smart business.  I guess ...  I wouldn't know ... I'm a musician ...
    and only a part time one at that :)
    
    Shane, who totally confuses all the passing piranhas (????) huh ??

    The POTUSOA are an instant "click" with me.

    
    To me, I am SICK of hearing "Lump" on the radio......it's getting as
    bad as silverchair's first release.....I have only heard "Kitty" once
    and the meowing part had me thinking it was Axl Rose from GnR....it
    sure sounded like his voice....Funny tune, but it does nothing for me.
    Not unless it has some serious kicking double-bass! ;-)
    

    ..heard that song kitty on the way home last night....mega gack...you 
    people who like this song have to be brain dead or have heard so much bad 
    music that this one sounds good to you.....give me a break!...the thinly 
    veiled 'kitty' analogy is completely laughable and complete cliche and
    besides that the tune sux....this is another tune that shows me that
    an amazing amount of totally talentless people can get signed and
    recorded..............................other than that, i think they're
    great......................................................../k

    
    
    RE:/k,
    
    I agree totally.. I thought the song was "funny" but to be taken
    in a serious aspect as musical talent.. PAHHLEASE! 
    
    I'm currently writing a song called "The fart song" where I fart
    outta my ass for 60 seconds into a microphone.. I figure I should
    be signed within the week and predict it'll hit the charts somewhere
    within the top 10... maybe 5..
    
    
    Whit-
    

    Re: whit
    
    Make sure that your farts cannot be interpretted as having any meaning
    and that the farts are repetitive and easy.  I wouldn't diverge to
    much from the D and G chord farts.  This way your fart song will
    be mundane and catchy...something that people will love and appreciate
    over the radio...i'm not sure if you'll be able to tour with it though.
    Unless your farts are the loud kind that don't smell.
    
    Shane, who also thinks P.O.T.U.S.A. kitty song sucks...

    
    Jim you bastard...you stole my idea for a song!
    
    
    					ian 8)

    Maybe the two of you could do a duet?

    	My, my, jealousy is a wonderful thing.
    
    	I hate over 167 different bands, say they suck, and should be
    	toasted over burnt corpses.
    
    	But the fact remains, they are signed...
    
    	Music is a business, the art of success in this business is
    	to convince a record company you have a product, and that
    	the general public will shell out cash for it. But that
    	doesn't mean you have to like it.
    
    	Personally, you pay me nightly and I'd play the kitty song
    	'til the cows come home...
    
    	Prostitute / musician = synonym

    re: -1..what are you? 5 years old??..yeah, we're all wicked jealous...
    ....puh-lease..i don't care if you gold plate cow dung...if it looks
    like sh*t and it smells like sh*t...it's usually sh&t....no matter how
    it's packaged........./k

    ...and i'm sure this song is destined to become a classic.....she-yah..
    

    	Well, yes, I am wicked jealous... 
    
    	They have a record contract, and I don't. If I did I probably
    	WOULD act like a 5 year old at a christmas party...
    
    	Simple as that. Like the band or not, they're on the radio.
    
    	As a musician/prostitute, that's a beautiful thing...
    
    	But that doesn't mean anything, see topic #1113

    ...then i guess what you're saying is that you're only in it for the
    money........with that as a creed, 'disappointed' will surely be your 
    motto as you course your way through the music biz...most musicians i
    know don't consider themselves prostitutes...like yourself....most play
    the music they like and enjoy playing for the love of music...not
    necessarily to make big bucks...that's nice if that happens but it's
    not the point......that's kind of like saying...'i wanna be the lead
    singer(guitar player/fillintheblank) cuz he gets all the girls'...
    crappy reason to wanna be a musician if you ask me.....;')..........

    "she totally confused all the passing piranha"

    ....thank you buck for pulling us back to the real issue at hand..../k

    You're welcomed!
    
    Mr. Sanity_Check

    	Nope, I'm only in it to be successful...
    
    	Meaning I'd join any band headed for a recording deal, provided
    	it was at least a semi-national label.
    
    	I want to succeed in the music business, not stay in my
    	basement practicing 15-25 hrs/week. I'm doing that anyway,
    	why not look for an outlet...
    
    	Most people would pass up the opportunity to join a band
    	like POTUSA? I would've shown up at the auditions with
    	bells on...
    
    	Better than the basement any day  %^)
    
    	But I do understand your point of view...

    -1
    
    But would you risk 'integrity' just to get on a record label?
    
    I mean, POTUSOA is *obviously* a novel band -- a one-hit wonder,
    if you may.  They'll enjoy the success of this album, maybe even 
    two, but they just don't have what it takes for longevity.  Plus,
    they're more of a flash-in-the-pan band, and the novelty of them
    WILL wear off.
    
    So, what I'm trying to so is -- would you stick your name with a
    band like that which you know has a doomed existance, JUST to get 
    it on a CD?  I think, in some ways, saying yes is counter productive
    to your cause.
    
    Case in point -- Al Pitrelli .. an old Berklee buddy who is one BURNING
    friggin guitar player!!!  He ranks right up there with Vai and Satriani!
    BUT -- look at his track record...
    
    - Guitarist for Alice Cooper
    - Guitarist for Dee Snyder
    - Guitarist for Asia
    - Guitarist for Savatage
    
    He's gone on some serious auditions (like for Ozzy's band), and NOT
    gotten the gig -- why? 
    
    One, people don't think highly of who he's played with in the past.
    Two, the number of different bands he's played with who have not
         enjoyed any _real_ success.
    
    So, it's not that this cat can't play -- he can play circles around
    any of the guitarists in any of the big league bands (PJ, etc.), but
    what has it got him?  A gig with Savatage -- a band which lives in
    relative obscurity!
    
    /B
    
    

	Since I started this topic, I'll continue the rathole. Although
    	the Kitty song did get a reaction from everyone, good or bad
    	it got a reaction.
	*
	Holy smokes, I never knew Al played with Asia, or Alice. That's
	quite a resume, I'd be amazed to think that kind of experience
	would jeapordize an audition. I'd wonder that Ozzy was looking
	for a particular style. He has been spoiled with Randy Rhodes,
	Brad Gillis, Jake E Lee, and Zakk Wylde.

    	Al is an amazing player, I was able to warm up for Dee Snyder's
	Widowmaker last year with Twisted Fate at the Rockpile (which
	became the Red Square, which fizzled out).

    	Widowmaker had Joe Franco on drums, formerly of Twisted Sister,
    	(he filled in after AJ Pero). Before them he played with Good
	Rats (which were a great band), who I first saw warming up for
	Rush at the Nassau Coliseum on Long Island, NY. You'd have to
	know the two bands, the Good Rats and Twisted Sister were in
	competition for the east coast back in the mid-to-late 70's
	early 80's. Good Rats never found true National exposure as
	'Sister did, although Good Rats were a better band IMHO.

	Having never spoken to Joe, I'd assume he took the paying gig
	with 'Sister when the opportunity came up. Twisted Sister since
	folded, Dee went on to found Widowmaker, and Joe again went for
	the paying gig. If he's a free agent now he should have offers
	waiting for him, the guy is amazing.

    	I've also warmed up for Savatage 5 years ago when I played with
	Wicked Lester at a club up north, on the boardwalk of Salisbury
	Beach, MA. I can't remember the name, a large hanger type venue,
	but obviously Al wasn't with them at the time.

	I won't mention the latest venture...

	I wonder if that's enough rathole for the moderators?

    I heard a "rock block" of POTUSA this weekend while driving, and 
    have come to the conclusion this band is The Knack of the 90s!

    M-m-m-m-m-my-scro...
    
    Oh never mind...

    	My cat thinks so...
    
    	Ummm, I own both Knack releases on Vinyl, don't know if I
    	should've admitted that though...
    
    	Perfect setup for Jwhitman in there somewhere...

    
    
    
    	"kitty at my foot and I wanna touch it"
    
    
    	My cats love this.... and my dog kind of looks around when the
    	meows........... come on.  }:[]

    
    	Patrick, doesn't The Knack have at least 3 albums?
    
    	They just came out with a new one within the last 2 years.
    

    	AHAH!!
    
    	Actually I lied to provoke shameless disclosure! You fool!
    
    	(just kidding)
    
    	I didn't know about the third record, I bought the first
    	two only because I liked the drummer's style.
    
    	Did you listen to WAAF this morning? POTUSA is writing a
    	new tune for the Seattle Sonics called Go Sonics...
    	The DJ's played the kitty song right after it...

    Kitty needs some pettin' & lovin' on his rain-soaked hiiiiide...
    
    'pril

    
    	Oh, BTW ... I got the CD a couple weeks ago and have given it a
    	few listens.  Not bad, really.
    
    	"Lump" - 1st single.  Catchy, and likeable.
    
    	"Kitty" - 2nd single.  Annoying ... don't really like it, but I
    		  usually listen to it all the way through.
    
    	"Kick Out the Jams" - MC5 cover.  Rockin', to say the least.
    
    	"Back Porch" - Country-type rockabilly song.  Very catchy.
    
    
    	The rest is OK.  Some of it sounds as if they sat in a house,
    	looked around and wrote a song about whatever their eyes hap-
    	pened to catch.
    

if you like Kick out the Jams,then check out ther Henry Rollins/Bad Brains
version.

					ian

    
    	I was gonna bring in the MC5 CD today but I forgot it ... I want
    	to hear the original again so I can remember what it actually
    	sounded like.
    

I would think it would be hard to top MC5's version

    
    	MC5 wasn't exactly the best band ever, but hopefully you knew
    	that already.
    
    	They were OK, but "amazing talent" wouldn't be their #1 strong
    	point.
    

    Shawn, you don't like the Salamander song???  

    
    	I guess I'd have to hear it again, but apparently it didn't have
    	much of an impact on me.
    

    Little salamander
    Where did you go?
    Under the entertainment _center_
    
    

    
> if you like Kick out the Jams,then check out ther Henry Rollins/Bad Brains
> version.
    
    Or one of several Blue �yster Cult versions...
    

    Revised version:
    
    Little salamander
    Where did you go?
    Edge of the yard
    I found you, you know
    All brown and hard
    
    my favorite part is:
    
    Little killer froggie
    Where did you hop?
    Under the entertainment center
    Realized you just couldn't stop
    The worms found a hole in your bootie they could enter
    
    8)  Huh???

    	Typical of the responses I've heard for this band...
    
    	If you've never had a frog hop under your entertainment center,
    	don't try to figure it out.
    
    	That's why people who don't own cats can't relate to the
    	Kitty song. They either love it, or hate it, as you can see
    	from earlier replies.
    
    	Face

    
    	Well, Tim, I listened to MC5 this morning.
    
    	And I have to say it's a toss-up as to which "Kick Out the Jams"
    	I like better, believe it or not.
    

    
    
    
    "Kitty at my foot an I wanna punt it!"
    
    I can relate... 
    
    ;')
    

    >>"Kitty at my foot an I wanna punt it!"
    
    
    Q:  Does your cat fly all by herself?
    
    A:  No, I fling her!

                      <<< Note 1114.6 by SUBSYS::MSOUCY >>>
                        -< they do nothing for me.... >-

    }}Not unless it has some serious kicking double-bass! ;-)
      
    Yes, believe it or not:
    
    The salamander song (actually track 10 - "Body") has some double bass. 
    Not seriously kicking though.  
    

    You know, "Lump' was not bad.  Has a catchy tune.
    
    "Kitty" was mildly annoying!
    
    "Peaches" is just plain STUPID!!
    
    Paully
     

	It took a while, but I think these guy's just plain SUCK.  

	Disclaimer:  This has nothing to do with the money they make or
		     that they "got signed", they just suck. 

	/Cap'n Quad_who_thinks_Monkey_See_Monkey_Do_has_more_potential

    ..i hate to say i told you all so...but i did........in the arena of
    suckdom...this 'band', and i do use that term ever so loosely....leave
    a texas size hickey wherever they go........................;')...../k

    
    	I'd say there are 3-4 pretty good songs on this album.  Now, I
    	don't define "pretty good" to mean "Grammy potential", but I
    	mean "listenable/catchy/original/enjoyable or a combination of
    	same".
    
    	And 3-4 songs isn't a bad hit rate for an album ... of course,
    	we'd all love a 100% hit rate, but that doesn't happen often.
    

    ..yeah, well your opinion doesn't count ...........;')........../k

    
    	[sniff!]
    
    	I always spoke very highly of you.
    

    ..no you didn't..................;')

    
    	Damn!!  She got me again!!
    

    Shawn, you're opinion counts with me.
    
    There are too many narrow minded people in this world...

    	re .47
    
    	> this 'band', and i do use that term ever so loosely....leave
    	> a texas size hickey wherever they go.....;')...../k
    
    
    	Darn, I ran home to check it out, puckered up, but no hickeys!
    
    	Shucks, you promised!

    
    	These guys are getting a bit better every time I listen to the
    	album.
    
    	Track 5, I believe called "Boll Weevil", is meandering into
    	Primus territory ... no Les Claypool on bass, of course, but
    	quite funky and catchy.
    
    	Some of it is still crap, and always will be crap, but some of
    	it is quite listenable, and even good.  "The Kitty Song" is
    	still annoying, though.
    

    let the tube shine

    re.55
    This from a man who still uses the term "Hosers".......
    Keep listening....you'll eventually come to your senses!
    
    Paully

    
    	"Hosers" was used in reference to a discussion in another conf-
    	erence, and April and JJ would have picked up on it.
    
    	I never use that word seriously.
    

    But apparently you take these notes TOO seriously! 8)
    
    Paully
    

I get it - you were supposed to read Shawn's mind - that might be difficult

    
    	So I suppose I should start footnoting all references that may
    	be confusing to non-readers of another conference?
    
    	Don't answer that.
    

    
    	And just because I used the word "hoser" my opinion of a non-
    	related issue is no good?
    
    	I've entered 5+ replies in this topic, stating my opinion and
    	giving some brief descriptions of songs and whether I like them
    	or not.  That should be enough to give you an idea of whether
    	or not the album is worth buying.
    

    IMO, the Presidents rule.  They aren't trying to impress anybody which
    is certainly obvious.
    
    I like their diversity...they're funny in certain places and they ARE
    really talented.  They're no Nirvana or Smashing Pumpkins, but they are
    who they are and it definitely doesn't sound like anything else I'm
    #s�+�listening to.except MAYBE Primimus..so I'd say they're pretty 
    original. �O  
    
    'pril
    
    p.s. Oh ya, I would cross-post the note in which Shawn used the word 
    "hoser" just today, but it's too much trouble.  8P  And besides this
    confrerence is supposed to be about music anyway.

    
    These guys are funny. I don't take their music seriously, nor should
    anyone else. These days it's refreshing to hear weird/funny/makes no
    sense lyrics instead of the world is coming to an end/all the
    politicians are crooks/save the whales lyrics that every other band
    sings about. 
    'Lump' is a cool tune and so is 'Peaches'. However the 'Kitty' song
    does get a little annoying.... just a little.
    
    Dave

 >>who they are and it definitely doesn't sound like anything else I'm
  >>  #s�+�listening to.except MAYBE Primimus..so I'd say they're pretty 
 >>   original. �O  
   
	Primus????  Surely you jest, they don't even remotely remind me
	of Primus...Or did you really mean Primimus 'pril %^)

	/Cap'n Quad 

    How much Presidents have you listened to?
    
    How much Primus have you listened to?
    
    They're not identical, but there are snippets where they are similar.
    
    Note, I said MAYBE Primus.  8)

    
    	Cap'n, I mentioned that the song "Boll Weevil" is venturing into
    	Primus territory, and I was very serious.
    

	Guess I thought it funny to compare a group who leads with a bass
	Vs. a group that doesn't even contain one!!!

	/CQ

    Well sort of.  They have a two-string basitar and a three-string
    guitbass.
    
    8)

    Founded on the premise that a good time is the only kind worth having,
    The Presidents of the United States of America draw
    on the three great verities of rock 'n' roll -- fun, fun, and fun -- to
    deliver a 13-point State-Of-The-Union message full of
    foot-stompin' glee and shoutin'-in-the-shower melodies. 
    
    "We are entertainers," said President Dave in an interview with Cake,
    "not artists." And it is this populist sentiment, this
    We-The-People vibe, that makes the Presidents' live shows so
    overwhelmingly democratic. Always unpredictable and only
    barely-planned, The Presidents' gigs range from unapologetically
    chaotic to transcendental shambles to peaks of egalitarian
    ecstasy. By turning their "mistakes" into "songs," letting the audience
    sing the words, dancing with abandon, smiling a lot, the
    Presidents of the United States of America communicate the sheer
    unbridled joy of rock 'n' roll and life itself. Writing
    catchy, accessible music and delivering it with conviction, these
    Presidents are finally giving people what they really want. 

    	Good to finally see some replies from folks with open minds
    	hitting this topic.
    
    	Like I should talk, eight years ago I would've choked and
    	gone running for the Slayer tapes/discs for relief...
    
    	Face

    {high five}

    ...'His mind was sooooo open, his brain fell out'.........;')

I dunno why - but I like these guys...

    	> apparently anyone who doesn't agree with you is closed minded?
    
    	Naw, of course not...
    
    	It's the oldest debate topic in the musical world:
    
    	That band sucks!
    	no they don't!
    	yes they do!
    	no they don't!
    
    	Opinions are just that, opinions.
    
    	And other replies in this topic have stated that this band
    	is crap, period, "If it looks and sounds like @*%$, it is".
    
    	In their opinion, it is/// In mine, if it's good enough
    	for my cat, it's good enough for me. Although we don't
    	share the litter box, or the Friskies Buffet...
    
    	My cat actually responds to the first couple of meows when
    	she hears the song.

    I'm just glad that they said they are entertainers.  That I will
    buy.  If they had said musicians or artists or something like that
    I would have to gag.
    
    Shane, who thinks there are already far too many "entertainers" who
    don't have that much talent as musicians/song writers

    Re: -1
    
    cool I'm like replying to myself.  Forgot to say that I'm off my 
    soapbox now if anyone else wants to hop on.
    
    Shane, who is 6 feet tall when standing on the average soapbox
    
    

    
    	Shane, after realizing that you forgot to add something to a
    	reply, you could have done a
    
    	DELETE
    
    	and then a
    
    	REPLY/LAST
    
    	and the text from the previous entry would have magically
    	appeared before your eyes, ready for you to supplement with
    	whatever else you felt like adding.
    

    Are We Runnin Out of Disk_Space or Some_Thang???

    Just make sure you stay in the same notes session.  I've lost lotsa
    replies that way.  Don't exit between del and rep/last.

    
    	Right, and you can't type REPLY or WRITE or you'll also lose
    	the text, since that new edit session becomes your new LAST
    	buffer.
    
    	Quiet down, Al ... you just might learn something.  8^)
    

    We are not likely to run out of diskspace on KDX200 for a while...
    I got LOTS.
    

    Yeah I know...but I kinda liked replying to myself.
    
    Shane, who isn't schizophrenic

    Re: -1
    
    Yes you are !!

    
    hoi,schizo,go and play "hide and seek" with yourself and give us all
    some peace!
    
    
    						ian

    Funny, Shane!

    	I don't know if anyone was listening to WBCN (Boston) today...
    
    	I was driving back from the Stow facility around 1:45 pm, and
    	those nuts threw the kitty song on. And I mean the REAL kitty
    	song, and they played it right through to the part with the
    	big finale segment.
    
    	Anyone who has the disc knows the part:
    
    	F*** Y** KITTY !!! ...
    
    	I'd give WBCN the award for the biggest balls to play the
    	REAL version over the air at that time of day.
    
    	Cheers, Happy Easter...  Face

         If I hear this damn song ONE MORE TIME!!!!AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
    

    
    	Sometimes you've gotta wonder why they pick certain songs to
    	be singles.  "Peaches" wouldn't have been my next pick, for
    	sure.  I would've gone with "Back Porch", or even "Kick Out
    	the Jams".  Alternate would be "Boll Weevil".
    

    
    Shawn, somebody's been playing their "Kick Out The Jams" cover, 'cause
    I keep hearing it - think it was 'BRU.
    
    - Sean

    
    Naked and Famous would be my choice for next single.
    But I'm not a big-wig exec..... =(
    
    Dave

    
    	RE: Sean
    
    	Good!!  Someone has some taste.
    
    	What'd you think of it?
    

    .91 agreed!  Naked & Famous is a killer tune!

    	.88
    
    	Have you seen the video for Peaches yet?
    
    	There's no rhyme or reason with this band!
    
    	A song about peaches, and a video that degenerates into a
    	martial arts battle between the band members and some Ninjas.
    
    	Why? Who knows...

    
    > 	RE: Sean
    >
    >	Good!!  Someone has some taste.
    >
    >	What'd you think of it?
    
    1) Too Short
    2) They're no B.�.C. with this song (but whoever is?)
    
    - Sean

    	I finally got a chance to see these guys live...
    
    	The WBCN River Rave, saturday night, Great Woods, Mansfield, MA.
    
    	These guys aren't bad, not blazing musician's, but by far
    	they put on the best show of the night.
    
    	The drummer is a nut, no tom-tom's, just a bass drum, snare drum,
    	and a floor tom. Looked like a pair of 12" crash cymbals, a ride,
    	and toys rack mounted where the tom-tom would normally be. And,
    	he's a left-handed player, with the hi-hat on the left side and
    	the floor tom on the right.
    
    	They played all their "classics",  kitty, lump, peaches, just
    	about everything off the record.
    
    	They were worth the 45-mile ride to Great Woods, I also caught
    	CRACKER, they hit the stage at 10 pm. Not half as entertaining
    	as the PotUSA, but I never realized how many songs of theirs
    	are on the radio. I recognized five of the songs, although I
    	never even knew they were cracker tunes.
    
    	Face

    
    	Their cover of The Buggles' "Video Killed the Radio Star" is on
    	the importable "Dune Buggy" single.
    

I saw these guys play for WBRU at the gazebo in Narragansett Rhode Island
last summer. They were great. 

peaches come in a can, they were put there by a man...