Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    I heard a song by this band on the radio a week or so ago and thought
    it was pretty interesting.  Sounded a *lot* like Jane's to me,
    especially in the production style.
    
    Don't know if I'll get into the band as much though 'cause a big part
    of what I liked J's_A for was Dave Navarro's guitar playing.  
    
    Greg

    I've heard 'Cursed Female' a couple of times......I agree..it sounds
    like Jane's...a friend saw it on MTV's Alternative Nation last week...I
    missed it :(.....I can't wait to get the CD...
    
    :), d

    I can't see that PfP's new guitarist wouldn't be really good... why
    scrap Navarro for someone that isn't at least as good? 
    Can't wait to hear the new stuff... Brian... buy it, will ya?

    I don't think it was a question of scrappin Navarro, he and Perry
    apparently had a big falling out.  See the Jane's topic, someone posted
    a rumor about what caused it.  Plus Navarro supposedly went into rehab
    after the last Lollapalooza tour they did, that could have had
    something to do with it too.

    There's a little short article on the new PfP guitarist in the most
    recent (June) issue of Guitar Player.  He sounded real humble.  Said
    he'd rather the band had proven themselves before getting onto the
    Lollapalooza tour this year instead of being there by default 'cause
    Perry had started the thing.

    gh

	This months Spin covers PfP.  Quite interesting in a few ways.
	The bassist Martin LeNoble is from the Netherlands (or something), 
        the guitarist is Italian and the drummer is Steven Perkins (Ex-Janes).

	I was disturbed (I don't know why) by the fact that Perry drives a
	LEXUS!!!  Yech!  

	The cover art (as usual, from a Perry led group) is controversial.
        It's a Star of David with a Swastika inside???  Some sort of Indian
        or Buddist symbol or... 

	I'm sure they can be the life of a party, but then again, so can't I.

	/Cap'n Quad  

	

>	I was disturbed (I don't know why) by the fact that Perry drives a
>	LEXUS!!!  Yech!  

    I was just disturbed...

     well... this is my .02 worth on the band so far...  i didn't buy
     the album yet, but i will pick it up tomorrow  whilst at the rmv
     in framingham...  i went in to see PfP at the avalon about three
     weeks ago.  they were one of the headlining acts for the aids
     benefit/block party that was held on landsdown st...

     all i could say was.... MORE!!!!  the early statement from perry
     that PfP was not gonna sound like JA is a very big fat lie...
     aside from a little less notchy guitar and a smoother bass these
     guys are JA (imho)...  not much has changed... the music is still
     very moody/funky/metal/slicing/dramatic/mysterious, and as always
     the lyrics make you look at perry and say... "man, he is a strange
     bird but his words really make you ponder about life..."

     i see no fault with the current string pluckers... except that
     the bassist, martyn le noble, could use some dental work.  his
     stature kind of bugged me too while thinking of eric a...  eric
     would loom over the bass and really control/beat the hell out
     of it... martyn kinda just leans back with a cigarette in his
     mouth and slaps/plucks away... kinda looked like he belonged in
     the stray cats or something... but once i got over that he was okay.

     pete distephano is no dave navarro... but then again, why should
     he be.  he fits perry's music fine with his own surf band sound.
     once i got into his playing it was all fine to me.

     i must admit one thing... and i think it's gonna be a tag that
     will follow this band... at times during the set i did pretty much
     block out the guitars on either side and focus on perry and
     stephen perkins and say to myself... "ahh... finally some new JA"
     but i have a feeling i won't be the only person doing that.

     as a side note... to me... perry is to lyrics as george carlin
     is to jokes... carlin has my sides splitting while i am laughing
     my ass off, almost all of his jokes are magnificent... reason
     being most of them are of real life... as are perry's lyrics.
     the boy has seen some strange ways on the streets of l.a.

     anyway... the set that i saw PfP play was awesome... i can't give
     any song titles cuz i didn't know any of the material going into
     the show... (talk about a blind date from hell....)  but they
     played a short (~35 min) set with no JA material.  crowd was
     total-nutso and enjoying the new material.

     biggest highlight/downer was stephen perkins warming up on drums
     and pounding out some of the intro to 'ted... just admit it'.
     he did just enough for the crowd to notice, then with a big
     smile on his face he stopped.... :(

     i can't wait to get the lp tomorrow...  if no one else does so
     first i will post a review...

     /b

     ps - yes master minardi... i will make you a tape...
                                                   

	Well I bought the disc last night and after one listen I have
	no regrets.  The bass is a little heavy/muddy but that's no
	problem.  Short disc (~39 min), hard to decipher the meaning of a 
	few songs but easy to decipher others.  Perry's voice makes the
	disc.  I personally like the idea that the group doesn't think its
	a supergroup and I get the feeling they don't want to be.  That
	feeling comes from the performance at Avalon and the general 
	promotion (or non-promotion) of the group/disc.

	Note - I mentioned earlier that there is a symbol called a Yantra
               that is a Star of David with a Swastika inside.  I can't seem
	       to find it on the cover, but they say it's there.

	/Cap'n Quad

	P.S.  You can tell Farrel/Perkins have worked together before.   

    Sounds cool.  That one's definitely going onto my "music I want" list. 
    I heard two tracks off it on the radio last night and enjoyed them a
    lot.  Drag that the disc is so short though...
    
    gh

    I have to agree exactly about Perry's voice. 
    He doesn't have a great voice, but it's got a 
    strange vibrato, I think that's the correct word
    to describe it, anyway, whatever-the-**** it is,
    his voice on this disc is extremely cool, just
    like on Mountain Song.
    
    I think he had some fun naming the songs.. a little
    double entendre to intrigue/anger people, such as 
    Blood Rag, Packin', Cursed Female, Orgasm, Black Girlfriend, etc.
    
    My only complaint is there ain't enough music on the
    disc.
    
    For the person that was pissed because Perry drives
    a Lexus, check out the song Cursed Male, which says that 
    OLD guys don't have fun with their money, to drive fast
    cars fast, and turn on women, etc.
    
    It's easy to think of Perry as selling out, but actually,
    if he was, that would just add to the art of his whole existence as
    a celebrity. What could he drive that would seem to fit 
    his image better?
    
    /Mike
                                         

    
>    For the person that was pissed because Perry drives
>    a Lexus, check out the song Cursed Male, which says that 
>    OLD guys don't have fun with their money, to drive fast
>    cars fast, and turn on women, etc.
    

	Does that mean that he's one of the cursed males or not?

	A mint VW bus, that's what I picture him in. 

	Also for those interested Perry and his ex-girlfriend co-directed
        a picture called "The Gift" that's basically an autobiographical
	tale of life on the streets in LA or something like that...due out
        the end of this year...done on a 350K budget...sounds interesting.

	/Cap'n Quad

>	A mint VW bus, that's what I picture him in. 
    
    Works for me, I love my old Bus!  Far from "mint" though...
    
    gh

    You mean it's not fahvern�gen?

    Like I said, I love the old thing, it just *looks* like fertilizer...
    
    Gh

    It's purple though!  I want it......
    
    :), d

>	Also for those interested Perry and his ex-girlfriend co-directed
>        a picture called "The Gift" that's basically an autobiographical
>	tale of life on the streets in LA or something like that...due out
>        the end of this year...done on a 350K budget...sounds interesting.
>
>	/Cap'n Quad


     yeah... gift was suppossed to be out last spring... after some
     footage from the first lollapalooza was to be added.  perry has
     had trouble with bringing 'gift' out of the vault because there
     are some appearances by ice-t in the film and perry was working
     with time-warner at the time and they were giving him a bunch
     of shite because of there own falling out with ice-t... other
     'legal' things made it tough too because part of the film is
     a JA segment... and we all know how they get along now... and
     the fact that perry down plays JA whenever he can so PfP can
     emerge from the shadows...   i read in either rollingrock or
     spit that the film would be show first at festivals (lolla 93?)
     and then meybe some exposure at theaters (b-film...).

     should be interesting... kinda hope it hits VHS as well...

     /b

	
        RE - "The Gift"

	Now I remember! Wasn't Perry locked in a hotel room for days 
	after Lolla 91 editing footage when a housekeeper got a peek in
	and saw the camera equipment?  She proceeded to tell the proper
 	authorities that she thought there was some porn being shot or
	something like that!

	/Cap'n Quad

    I saw the PFP 'Cursed Female' video on Alternative Nation last night..
    I only caught the last half, but it's pretty interesting...all I saw
    was some dude going around smoking cigarettes giving prostitutes (both 
    men and women) money...he meets up with other guys holding out bills in 
    front of their crotch and undoing their zippers......hmmmmm...I had
    the song in my head the rest of the night and all morning......
    
    :), d

	PfP is the third biggest selling LP in Boston right now

	I'm Impressed
	
	/Cap'n Quad

    
    	Just because a bunch of dope smugglers and car thieves bought it
    	doesn't mean it's good.
    
    	[1/2 8^) ... OK, maybe a little more than that.]
    
    							GTI
    

    The new PfP video is wild.

    Yo Buck... what's it like? Is it for Cursed Fleamale?
    
    I heard this a.m. that PfP has scheduled a show at the Wallace
    Center in FITCHBURG. Fitchburg... who the hell wants to go to
    Fitchburg for ANYTHING? ;^)
    I think they should play Ralph's. 8^)

    >Yo Buck... what's it like? Is it for Cursed Fleamale?
    
    It's about this young guy, in his early 20s, who goes out at
    night cruising gay sex (kind of implies he is a hustler).
    Didn't think this was MTV's 'style' of video...

    
    The PfP show in Fitchburg totally ripped. 
    
    /Mike... still recovering

>>    The PfP show in Fitchburg totally ripped. 
    
>>    /Mike... still recovering


     wow - intense crowd or what...  very awesome show.  the flame
     eater in the g-string and niqqle cones was the best.  the things
     she was doing with those batons!!!!  no janes addiction tho....
     kind of a bummer, but i don't care, if PfP is all i can get
     live at a show, i'll take it.  sorry to lose you last night
     mike... but when the front row calls i must go...

     /b... also recovering...

     ps - hay danielle... you shoulda gone to the show...!!!

    What's a niqqle cone?

    ....geez greg are you dense or what??.....;')....

    
    
    HEY K.  Right on
    
    
    greg-   backward qqqq 's ???????????????????????????
    
    
    SueJ

    re: /k

    Yeah, I got my imagination...but ya never know what sorts of wondrous
    new things you may discover out there by asking.
    
    gh

    I heard these guys do a couple of songs,one was orgasm and I can't
    remember the other......basically I thought they were shite!Perry
    Farrell can't sing and the guitarist was boring!But then hey,thats just
    my opinion! 8)
    
    
    
                                                ian

    ..the other song was probably 'pets'............zzzzzzzzzzz........./k/

    
    Pfp play reading festival this year.