Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    Sister_t and I were just talking about this last nite.  She thinks
    grunge is ALREADY on its way out.  I think it still has a good
    18 months of longevity left in the genre.

    
    i hope not.  get rid of it.  
    

    
    
    	Keep grunge in the grease pit....and outa my ear range,
    
    		Lu

    I think a lot of these bands have a cool image,cool band names and
    cool song titles,but at the end of the day,the songs just ain`t there.
    It just doesn`t bite somehow (for me anyway).
    

    
    It's here to stay, but just won't be as popular. I mean, Pop metal has
    faded but bands still get records out. Just aren't seelin' millions.
    
    

    "Grunge"...Stupid name fer it.IMHO. The way Some of these Dippsy_Doodle
    "Fashion_Plates_Of-D_World are Tryin to cash in on it,I think it should
    be called"Sponge". Cause they're All soakin it(And_The_Bucks)up..with
    what is just a Fad.    I like A_Lot of the music and it's Kind has 
    Always been here...But some Media Mo_Foo's decide that it is now"IN"
    and we're Deluged with Tons_Of_Products to buy from.And if your lucky
    E_Nuff to find one of these Kool products(And_Spend $$$$ out the
    Ying_Yang)fer it..You'll be admired by all yer Friends_And_Peers.
    
    As we all know..Fads come and go.But they've All_Ways..and will be...
    There/Here.  
    
    Which reminds me..I gotta call up my Favorite girl to let her know
    that"I_Heard_Disco_Is_Makin_A_Come_Back""   Fackin_GAG_I'm_MAD!!
    
    
       Crazy_Don't_Let_The_Media_Rule_YA_AL!!!

    I think someone in the industry finally noticed that yer good old
    sloppy ROCK AND ROLL band has an audience out there.  That's what I
    consider most of what people call "grunge" to be.  It's rock with an
    edge to the music.  
    
    The funny thing to me is that bands that have a cool groove and some
    intensity have *always* interested me, and I think they do to a lot of
    other people too.  They just weren't generally available through the
    major labels until recently.
    
    The bottom line is putting out music that people enjoy, and people are
    tired of the same old sound.  The 80s are over and bands that did well
    then probably won't fly too hot now.  The same thing will happen with
    "grunge", the record companies will hire a buncha clone bands to
    capitolize on the trend and people will get tired of hearing the same
    sound all the time.  Then something else will come along and take over.
    
    Greg
                                                                           

>   -< you probably like the Stones too!  AAACK! >-
    
    Yep!  I even like Keith Richards' solo stuff.  Talk is Cheap is one of
    my favorite albums!
    
    gh

    I had that Stones song "Live With Me" going though my head the other
    day, and now that I think about it, that was grunge way back then!
    
    |KS|

    The Stones rool!They musta influenced a million bands!
    
    
    
                                                 staynz

Lotta grunge on Let it Bleed

    A good early grunge album is Masters of Reality by Black Sabbarf.
    
    That and Neil Young stuff.
    

    Well I think Pearl Jam is roolin, but the Stones make me puke.  Maybe
    if they had a lead vocalist like PJ they would be better.

    Black Sabbarf??    
    
    Bite your tongue!!!
    

    Put me on a roller coaster and watch me throw up...

    >Put me on a roller coaster and watch me throw up...
    
    Did I miss something...
    
    ???

    
    	Why is throwing up your favorite subject?
    
    							GTI
    

    >	Why is throwing up your favorite subject?
    
    Because I do it so often after reading notes!

>    >	Why is throwing up your favorite subject?
>    
>    Because I do it so often after reading notes!
    
    ...and after typin in Barry Manilow lyrics.

    This was a great idea for a note... wtf happened?
    
    Grunge is dead. It's more a fashion thing than a music
    thing. I mean, it influenced Beverly Hills 90210, and
    every other Fox show. I think the time I knew I hated 
    grunge was when I was retching through some Fox show,
    the Heights maybe? And this guy had a gig as a gigolo 
    model-dude for some older, horny middle-aged photog,
    and he couldn't relax. So, sensing that he was a rough-hewn
    'man from the streets,' she demonstrated how hip she was
    by helping him to chill, by swapping out his tux for a 
    baggy t-shirt, and asking him if he wanted some, quote
    "Seattle Sound" music. And he said, amazedly, and probably
    knowing he was gonna be playin tag-under-the-sheets with
    her shortly thereafter, "sure! how did you know?"
    
    Now you can't even buy ratty polyester clothing at the Salvation
    Army, because all grungoids have watched MTV's House of Cindy
    and saw the bit on how to buy the GRUNGE LOOK at second hand
    stores. I shoulda kept all my clothes from high school, I'd
    be freaking rich. I guess it's cool that bums are high fashion
    now, at least.
    
    Bottom line? "GRUNGE" sucks. It isn't music. It's fashion. 
    It's gonna die as fast as it took off, and, unfortunately, some of
    the good bands associated with it are gonna crash and burn
    along with it. If it ain't cool, it's dead. And if Brandon
    Walsh is wearing GRUNGE clothes, it ain't cool.
    
    Mudhoney says it best in Overblown.
    
    /M
                  

    I've dressed like I've slepted in the trash for years and will
    continue.For me it's not grunge music or fashion its just the way I've
    dressed myself.I feel comfortable that way.
    
    
                                                   staynz

    And I get one of those little chin beards by default.  It's the only
    place hair will grow on my face.  Am I fashionable yet, Ma?

       >>>>>  -< Aren't you sick of the little chin beards yet? >-
    
    YES!!!!!! I'm completely nauseated by them!!!
    
    But I've always liked the 'grunge' look way before it was called
    'grunge'.....actually it was the 'skaters'/'posers'/'new
    wave'/'punkers' that started that look.
                                           Rat

    Greg,
        I can't even grow hair there!If I want facial hair I have to comb
    the hair on my head forward,grab it at my chin,tie a knot in it and
    voila.......instant beard!   8)
    
    
    

    I can think of one other way to get an instand beard...
    
    :-)

    Hey steady on!!! 8)
    
    
                                                  staynz

    I agree with you, Mike....and it gets way out of hand when you see $300.00
    flannel shirts in magazines, and models going down the runways with
    hair gel in their hair trying to look unwashed and 'grunge'....GAAACCKK...
    
    :), danielle
    

    I reckon it`s just a reaction.
    
    It`s like in the early 70`s you had long hair/hippy dippy type crap,
    then you had punk in the mid(ish) to late 70`s which was all,er,wild
    and outrageous,then people got bored of that,and you got the smartly
    dressed,i`ve got loads of money type conformist boredom of the 80`s,
    and now it`s gone back to a cross between the long hair/hippy dippy
    i want to save the planet crap and the i`m a sort of outrageous punk
    type thing. Why people just can`t be themselves,i`ll never know.
    
    Hope this makes sense.
    

    
    	First of all this labeling of music really s*cks. The image that
    seems to go along with the "Grunge" stereotype is a little distorted.
    Hell, I was wearing flannel shirts and combat boots before I even heard
    a Seattle based band. Anyway, "grunge" is just plain old rock and roll. 
    No matter how you look at it. I'm a musician and I have noticed alot of
    similar song structures and beats. The things I have noticed that are
    different are the singers. Grunge singers tend to have more of a range
    then the singers way back, also the drummers tend to add flair to thier
    stylish drum beats. I have also noticed that these "grunge" bands are
    evolving with the times. I personally think that Grunge is a feeling,
    not a look or sound, but a feeling. It is the feelings we have as a
    teenager or young adult trying to cope with the new problems we all
    have as we grow up. I think that this definition can also be put on
    rock and roll. For this reason I think that the label "Grunge" will die
    but the feeling will always be there.
    
    					Jim
     
     
    

    grunge is the stuff you get between your toes when you
    wear swetty wool socks all day...it's also called toe
    jam
    
    ;)
    
    Shane, who wonders if Pearl Jam may have toyed with the name
    Toe Jam at one time