Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    Who?

    
      There a band that reminds me of a cross between sanctuary and
    fobiden.
    
        I like um.I dont think there to popular though which is good
    because when a band gets to popular there focus and influences change.
        Though there are some exceptions,few but some...
    
     Well later:Pete
    
    

    
    I just got Burnt Offerings by them. Kind of Epic Doom metal. Heavy
    guitar and drums, Shane may like the double-bass work....but then
    again, he is a van halen-weenie! ;-)
    
    So far this sounds ok, I just haven't had time to give it a undisturbed
    listening at a decent volume!
    
    How many cd's do they have out? Anyone have a discography on them?
    
    

    
    Been spinning this one at home/in the car since the changer is fixed
    and back in action. I like this disc (note 904.3). Some serious
    double-bass on the drums. I think they have the main singer and a
    background singer. Very heavy and they have I think 3 releases out.
    Some faster stuff, some slower stuff, a little classical guitar (I
    think its a classical one he plays). Not a bad choice and it is growing
    on me. I like the first track of it, which I believe is the title track
    to that release, Burnt Offerings.
    
    Mike
    

    
    Been listening to their latest release now for a few days. Title is
    "The Dark Saga" and is about the comic book character "The Spawn" which
    is a very good comic (I stopped reading this a while back for other
    reasons), very dark storyline. The CD seems to follow it pretty well
    from what I can remember of the storyline of Spawn. Cool cover artwork
    of The Spawn too! I don't know what has happened to The Spawn since my
    last reading of it (issue 14 was my last in collection which I sold).
    
    They have for releases:
    
    Iced Earth
    Iced Earth	- Night of the Stormrider
    Iced Earth	- Burnt Offerings (excellent, Dante's Inferno 16mins long!)
    Iced Earth	- The Dark Saga
    
    Different bassist in band and I think a different drummer from last
    release. They seem to change some musicians with every release. No idea
    why (nothing mentioned in a.r-n-r.metal.heavy in the newsgroups). I
    hope they can continue with this line of music and style! Good stuff if
    you like your music on the heavier side (not black/death metal).
    
    Worth a listen anyways! Production is very good, not as heavy sounding
    as Burnt Offerings, but at least as good quality-wide. YMMV.
    
    

    
    
    Re -.1
    
    Is that Todd MacFarlanes "Spawn"?????
    
    
    
    CF

    
    Yup, that is the one, and only! I would've liked a better layout, more
    of him, but it is cool enough though! That would be a wicked tatoo! I
    was thinking about that awhile ago, but then got to thinking about all
    the red in his cape!....so I decided not to get a spawn tat...yet! Cool
    story line though! And Violator was pretty bizarre!
    
    Mike
    

    
    One word for "The Dark Saga" by this band...
    
    EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!
    
    I've been spinning this for awhile now in the car and it does follow
    the story line of "The Spawn" quite a bit. Good emotions throughout the
    songs, good structure, good riffs, etc...I like it as much as their
    last release "Burnt Offerings". I may try and get "Night of the
    Stormrider" to see how much they have progressed.
    
    

    
    	I heard "I Died for You" off of "Identity ... 3D" and it's quite
    	good.  Very Queensryche-like.
    
    	Could someone recommend 1 of their albums as a starter?
    

    Shaun, get "The Dark Saga", their latest (and which contains "I died
    for you"). I think you should like it. It's one single story
    through all the album songs. Melodic, powerful and emotional.
    "Burnt Offerings" is equally excellent. Same singer, a little bit
    heavier, no weakness (BO contains also the 15+ mins "Dante's Inferno",
    a great track). Both albums deserve high recommendations.
    "Night of the Stormrider" is also very good but overall I still prefer
    TDS and BO.
    
    Sorin
    PS. You who like QR, Savatage etc., should also check for Stratovarius
    (Episode is their latest and probably their best to date) and Conception. 

    A double CD "The Purgatory Days" has been released. It contains
    re-mixes of songs from the first two albums (but with the current
    singer) and some demo version songs (I think).
    
    Sorin

    
    	I picked up "The Dark Saga" last week but haven't gotten around to
    	listening to it yet.
    

    Re. GTI
    
    Let me know your opinion once you listen it. I think you will like it.
    
    Sorin

    
    "The Dark Saga" is excellent!  A little heavier than I'm used to
    listening to but I find myself playing it often....especially in
    the car.
    
    There really isn't a bad song on the album and it moves through 
    "the story" very nicely.
    
    CF

    Great initiative from Iced Earth ! As they currently have one of the
    best heavy rock singers around (Mathew Barlow) and based on the success
    of the last two albums (The Dark Saga and Burnt Offerings both with
    Barlow) they released a double CD containing most of their two initial
    CDs. All songs are remixed and the vocals are done this time by Barlow.
    So you get almost all of Iced Earth (first album) and Night Of The
    Stormrider plus few different versions of songs contained on Burnt
    Offerings (the title track and Dante's Inferno, their most complex
    song). 21 great metal songs (one CD has 46+ minutes and the other
    around 70 mins, I think). All in a double digipack good for collector's
    items (the artwork is also inspired from some comics series).
    I know Night Of The Stormrider (very good) already but the versions on 
    this CD sound much better for me.
    If you enjoyed one of their two last CDs, then grab this one without
    hesitation. Highly recommended !
    
    Sorin

    
    Sorin,
    
    From your comments I assume this double CD is awesome?  Are there
    any songs from The Dark Saga on it?  I already have that and wouldn't
    want to end up with 7 or 8 songs repeated on this new album?
    If all the songs on the double CD are from their debut album and
    Night of the Stormrider this sounds like something I will buy.  As
    it stands right now I've never heard any of their songs/records besides
    TDS and I'd like to get some exposure to their earlier stuff. 
    Especially with the singer from TDS doing the vocals....I like him
    as a very heavy rock singer.
    
    	
    	CF

    Re. CF
    
    No, there are no songs from TDS on Days of Purgatory. There are only
    two or three versions of songs from Burnt Offerings. And .. the price
    of the double CD was that of a normal full priced CD !! 39.99 DM in
    Germany and 795 belgian francs here (promotional price). I had to wait
    a bit to have mine as it had sold out very quickly each time.
    It was released by Century Media.
    
    Sorin 

    
    Cool.  That's what I needed to know.  I may pick it up
    this weekend if I can find it.
    
    Thanks

    
    Well, another one goes on the loooooooong list! I just ordered Winter's
    Eternal Frost and Into Darkness via CD Connections on the web, and I
    have Anathema Pentecost III and Edge of Sanity Infernal on order from
    CDNow (hasn't shipped as of 11:30 this morning ;-(
    
    Looking forward VERY MUCH to hearing Winter's stuff as I hear it is
    CRUSHING Heavy DOOM from a couple people on the web! Next item that
    will be ordered will be Skepticism Stormcrowfeet (or is it fleet) and
    maybe Ceremonium or Mythological Cold Towers (heard good things about
    the latter).....Check out Dark Symphonies at:
    
    www.borg.com/~lordxul/ds1.htm(l) (may need l on end) for
    black/dark/death/doom metal offerings.
    
    

    The remixes are excellent. I have compared the original "Night of the
    stormrider" with the new remixes and the latter are better. It may
    depend if you have heard first TDS or earlier works (which I think it's
    the case with the guy which had some reserve on the new remixes). If
    you like TDS and BO, then you will surely *love* this one.
    They have taken care that vocals fit with the old interpretations and
    as I've said already, Mathew Barlow is one of the best singers today.
    The 2nd CD includes 4 songs (different versions) from BO. There are
    also on the two CDs few unreleased songs (also excellent).
    
    One of the best buys for me !
    
    Sorin

    
    Here is the contents (IE=Iced Earth, the first album, NOTS=Night of the
    stormrider, second album, BO=Burnt offerings, third album):
    
    CD 1:
    
    Enter the Realm (a demo)
    Colors (IE)
    Angels Holocaust (NOTS)
    Stormrider (NOTS)
    Winter Nights (unreleased)
    Nightmares (a demo)
    Before the Vision (NOTS)
    Pure Evil (NOTS)
    Solitude (IE)
    The Funeral (IE)
    When the Night Falls (IE)
    
    CD 2:
    
    Burnt Offerings (BO)
    Cast in Stone (IE)
    Desert Rain (NOTS)
    Brainwashed (BO)
    Life and Death (IE)
    Creator Failure (BO)
    Reaching the End (NOTS)
    Travel in Stygian (SR)
    Dante's Inferno (BO)
    Iced Earth (IE)
    
    As I've written before the first CD last 46 mins and the second 70
    mins. 114 minutes of great heavy metal !
    
    Sorin

    
    
    Re: Days of Purgatory
    
    I have a feeling that this is not available on this side
    of the pond yet.  I checked Newbury Comics in Nashua and
    in Framingham and they had not heard of it....the Iced 
    Earth bin at both stores was also empty  :-(  I also talked
    to this guy I know at Strawberries in Milford and when I 
    asked him if they carried the new IE disc he said they did not
    have any copies of "The Dark Saga" in.  So he was not aware this
    album existed (and it wasn't on his special order list either).
    
    Anyone know of a place where I might be able to order it on-line???
    
    I've been listening to TDS an awful lot lately and it's really growing
    on me...."Violate" being my favorite song.  Nice & heavy!
    
    
    CF

    
    Yo CF,
    
    I just checked at CDNow and CD Connection and neither are showing it as
    of yet. Maybe directly from Century Media (WWW.CenturyMedia.Com)?  I
    *hope* I come home today to my 2 discs from CDNow, Anathema "Pentecost
    III" and Edge of Sanity "Infernal".  I just found out the Winter disc
    "Into Darkness" is out of stock, so that's one I won't be seeing
    anytime soon, unless I order it elsewhere if I can find it on another
    label/store.
    
    Best bet would be to try Century Media's web page and see what they
    have to say, they will have it cheaper if they do also! But keep in
    mind to use Money Orders with them, personal checks they sit on for 3
    weeks then process it, then 4-6 weeks for shipping! I know, I went
    through that last year! No online ordering, yet.
    
    

"Days of Purgatory" doesn't appear anywhere in AltaVista.

    Re. Shawn
    
    Search for Days of Purgatory in AltaVista usenet or using DejaNews
    (current and archived news).
    
    I think I've seen somewhere in a news group that DoP was to be released
    in US later than in Europe. Too bad if it's true.
    Iced Earth has also a page on the web at http://www.icedearth.com .
    
    Sorin

    
    Thanks for all the info!
    
    Here's what I found out from Iced Earths homepage:
    Days of Purgatory is currently available *only* in Europe
    and is scheduled for release in the US sometime in July.
    
    There website is pretty cool, and I definatly like the album
    cover for D of P!!!  Check it out.
    
    Also, FWIW, they just ended (May 18th) a European tour and will
    be in the US on June 26-29th playing at Atlanta's Sci-Fi Expo
    called DragonCon.
    
    Later
    CF

> > What happened to the release of days of purgatory in america?? Could not
> > find it here, the release date was may 20, anybody go any info thanks

May 20th was the release date according to whom?  The Metal Release List 
is seldom correct, as release dates change all the time.  Anyway, the 
U.S. will most likely not get the same double disc set that Europe got, 
but that same set will still be available directly from Century Media for 
only $20.  However, that won't be available yet for several weeks.  

But to keep all the great American fans sated, Iced Earth will soon be 
performing live in their own country!  There will most likely be a show 
in Milwaukee on June 20th, and possibly one in Chicago the next night.  
Then they're playing DragonCon in Atlanta the weekend after that.  The 
midwest shows aren't cast in stone yet, but I should have some definite 
information in a couple days, which I'll post here.

Stay tuned to http://www.icedearth.com for all the latest...

Neil
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