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Conference napalm::heavy_metal

Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Wed May 04 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
Total number of notes:65616

847.0. "In studio/conert " by ROULET::KLO (Free Wind) Thu May 28 1992 14:02

    Here I started a topic about how bands sound in concert and in the
    studio. I had teacher explained about how alot of band play in the 
    70's. He said that alot of them they sound different from what they
    had in the record when they play live. Some band want to
    play like that because the people more enjoy then play exactly
    note to note. And he said that Jimi Hendrix,Led Zepline they play
    alot like that that why people likes then alot more in concert.
    
    He siad one of the example is to watch the LedZepline concert video
    in the middle of the 'Song Remain the same' the drumer and the bass
    look at each other because Jimmy Page go to something else so they
    have to follow him whatever he do. 
    
    I'm sorry if this topic already in here.
    
    
    KL
    
    
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847.1GOES11::G_HOUSEGerm Killer, Plaque SlayerThu May 28 1992 19:1214
>    He siad one of the example is to watch the LedZepline concert video
>    in the middle of the 'Song Remain the same' the drumer and the bass
>    look at each other because Jimmy Page go to something else so they
>    have to follow him whatever he do. 
    
    Yeah, that part is really funny!  I'd seen the film dozens of times
    before and had never noticed that until I saw it just recently.   John
    Bonhem(sp?) looks at John Paul Jones with this look like "What's he
    doing?" and JPJ just shrugs his shoulders.  I was rolling!
    
    Personally, I like it when bands stretch out and improvise.  If I
    wanted to hear it exactly like on the album, I'd play the album.
    
    gh
847.2tell us about you show.STRATA::KLOFree WindFri May 29 1992 13:058
    Any of your bands do that? Practice something else and then
    jump into somethings else in your live show? I think it's
    more fun like that if the band understand each other.
    
    Had any band happen doing something similar to the Led Zepline's show?
    Tell us about it.............
    
    KL
847.3DDIF::MCBRIDEHamburgers for Wotan, Inc.Fri May 29 1992 13:1612
The lead guitar player/singer in one of the bands I worked for would
occasionally *forget* parts of a song when he'd had a few drinks.
He'd launch off into something totally wrong and the rest of the band
would try to follow him.  It usually ended up sounding OK.  It got
really hilarious when he forgot lyrics, so he'd make some up as he
went along.  They were usually rude.  The crowds at the sort of
clubs we played really liked it though, so it was cool.

-- 
Kevin  "And really strange looks were frequently exchanged between me
        at the mixing board and the rest of the band members."
847.4Do as I play, not as I do ?CSLALL::MCLEMENTI live in a darken roomMon Jun 01 1992 11:5810
    
    
    My drummer will do sh!t like that live all the time...
    
    We will pratice something like an end of a song, then when we go to do
    it live he goes and does something totaly different... So I will turn
    around and flick a guitar pick at him, i'm two for three.....
    
                             
                                                           MCmark
847.5SUBURB::COOKSJamie`s gut - you know it makes senseMon Jun 01 1992 13:0910
    I want to play in a Ramones/Clash/Damned style band. (I play bass).
    
    Anyone round Reading area interested?? It`d be really simple and easy,
    (`cos only about 2-3 chords would be involved),and within 2 weeks,we
    could do a gig or wot not.
    
    Anyone interested?
    
    Probably not.
     
847.6what was I going to say?OLTRIX::ZAPPIAwhat color is your 3 ton parachute?Tue Jun 02 1992 10:596
	RE: forgetting things, it was funny (and ever interesting) to hear
	Ozzy being interviewed the other day and he mentioned those quiet
	times during songs when he'd be the only one doing or supposed to
	be doing something and he'd forget the words to things he'd been
	doing for years.  It happens to us all for instance..
847.7Somebody Sing!CYNO::FERRISTue Jun 02 1992 14:5210
    
     Another great mistake that I have on tape. During the last Who tour
    when they did Tommy "Live" in NY and in LA. The LA show was televised
    and I got it on tape. During the song Sally Simpson when Pete and Roger
    are trading off vocals, one verse comes up and they both just stop and
    look at each other while the music plays on, finally they both loose it
    and start laughing saying "That was your line" and "no it wasn't that
    was your line". It was great.
                                   mike
    
847.8i.e., Achilles Last Stand...OLTRIX::ZAPPIAdrum on a stickWed Jun 03 1992 10:347
	One other reason (there's many) for studio/live sound being different
	is it's hard for most guitarist to play 15 guitars at once.  Yea I'm 
	exaggerating but not too far off in some cases.

	- Jim

847.9Plastic bandsGOES11::G_HOUSEGerm Killer, Plaque SlayerWed Jun 03 1992 15:029
    I think it's sad that so many bands these days think it's imperative
    that they duplicate the sound on their albums *exactly* in concert. 
    They end up adding a bunch of sampled sounds or tape backgrounds to the
    show and ruins the live feel and/or spontaneity of the show.
    
    I'd much rather see a rough live show, down and dirty, with a lot of
    energy then some slick production that sounded just like the CD!
    
    gh
847.10one example - Bob EvansOLTRIX::ZAPPIAterminal bluesWed Jun 03 1992 15:3810
	Yup, that sounds just like the Boston based band Bob Evans (I hate
	descriptions 'cause I stick at 'em but post-punk-squared might not
	be too off) who I had initially liked a couple tracks of theirs I
	had heard on 'MBR (M.I.T...) I had hoped to see 'em earlier but
	ended up picking up their disc prior to but enjoyed it overall too
	but their live show add the spontaneity, energy, and roughness you 
	mentioned.

	- Jim
847.11That's way to do it.ROULET::KLOFree WindThu Jun 04 1992 12:163
    I'm agree............................
    
    KL