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Conference napalm::heavy_metal

Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Wed May 04 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
Total number of notes:65616

811.0. "California, Local Bands" by WLDWST::EDWARDS () Fri Oct 11 1991 18:01

      I saw a listing for local bands in Boston,  considering that 
    California is one of the biggest for new bands making it to the
    top I thought I would start a California Local Band scene.
    
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811.1DPDMAI::THRELFALLBloodSugarSexMagikFri Oct 11 1991 18:041
    BUT!  There are no Caliboyz in dis heah notesfile!
811.2VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKDEC sells, but who's buying?Fri Oct 11 1991 18:263
    
    WLDWST:: is in CA. Keep us posted. Any way you can get me some college
    radio adresses out there? I have the contact for UCLA...
811.3Okay...*8)DPDMAI::THRELFALLBloodSugarSexMagikFri Oct 11 1991 18:541
Well, dere is at least one caliboy in dis heah notesfile!
811.4USOPS::GALLANTall I wanna do is wrong....Mon Oct 14 1991 10:147
    
    
    	Gerry Kefalinos is from CA too, isn't he??  And Lisa Buren
    	(read only but I don't know if she's still around.. yooo
    	hoooo... Liiiiisaaaaa!) is from CA too!
    
    	tigg~
811.5what is a good local act ?WLDWST::EDWARDSMon Oct 14 1991 15:1011
    I think because there may not be that many people from California in
    the H.M. notes, I should redirect this file a little.  How about this ?
    What is wrong with the local bands today, keep in mind that they are
    the future of the big acts.  I myself manage two bands on the local
    scene, both are very popular in the Bay Area so I get a chance to 
    see most of the local acts.   I can say with great confidence that 
    for the most part the local acts are terrible, if there not up there as a
    clone act, they run a list of three chord tunes. What does it take for
    a local act to catch your eye ?
    
    Bigilo 
811.6GAMGEE::ROBRIts not easy bein' cheezy...Mon Oct 14 1991 18:447
    
    
    I think Lisa is gone.  I was looking for her to get some Deen C. info a
    while back and she wasn't in ELF anymore (I think Shawn pointed it out
    to me, don't really recall).
    
    
811.7DPDMAI::THRELFALLFrank Zappa for President!Tue Oct 15 1991 14:2718
    It takes a LOT here in Dallas!
    
    First (and foremost) They must sound original, even if they are doing
    cover tunes.  If they sound too much like the band they are covering,
    what's the point?  I mean, if I wanted to hear Boston or Led Zeppelin,
    I would go home and throw in some, that's not why I go to clubs...
    
    Second (and probably of equal importance live...) Is that they must
    have a good stage presence.  The singer has to know what moves to make
    at the same time he's singing.  I think he (or she) should also know
    how to talk to a drunken buncha loudmouth hell raisers to get them to
    say "HELL YEAH" whenever he wants to...
    
    Basically a band should have their sh*t together before they even try
    to debut, or they will not succeed locally.  And if they don't succeed
    locally, then they sure won't go any farther than that!
    
    'pril's $.05
811.8Does a bands look matter, or just the music?WLDWST::EDWARDSTue Oct 22 1991 12:239
    How important is the way they dress ?   I've seen a lot of local bands
    that just where what they where everyday,  I'm not saying that they
    should dress in flashy clothes or crazy outfits but they should at 
    least have something different on.
    
    I think why it's so hard to get signed these days for the good bands 
    anyway, is there are to many local bands sending their tapes in that 
    are terrible.  If you have to filter through 5000 tapes I think some 
    of the good stuff gets lost in the shuffle.   What do think ? 
811.9MRVAX::CESCOBARChris The EscoBarbarianTue Oct 22 1991 12:248
    
    You asked the deadly question....last time something like that was
    asked people started flippin' out at each other....course none of 'em
    meant it.. 8)
    
    
    
    Chris, who thinks only the music should matter.
811.10HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSThe vay you valk is fonny....Tue Oct 22 1991 12:356
    I think the music AND the stage presence matter.  You have to be able
    to play good music and "put on a show".  If the misicians are just
    going to stand there, the you may as well save the ticket money and buy
    the tape.  Clothes don't make the band.
    
    Chris D.
811.11MR4DEC::JWHITMANNo more TearsTue Oct 22 1991 12:4611
    
    
    
    Yup, it is the music... But the look of a band means ALOT to me 
    also... 
    
    I can't stand it when a band smokes, and when you look at them,
    they look like a bus stop....
    
    
    JW-
811.12*8)DPDMAI::THRELFALLFrank Zappa for President!Tue Oct 22 1991 14:308
    Clothes may not make the band.
    
    But whenever I see a dude up on the stage playing guitar or what have
    you, it definitely heightens my opinion of him if he's decked out in a
    satin shirt and some gnarly leather pants...I could go into further
    detail here, but I'm getting hot already...!
    
    'pril
811.13*8)MRVAX::CESCOBARChris The EscoBarbarianTue Oct 22 1991 14:467
    
    Yeah' But the way he dresses doesn't heighten my opinion....
    
    Talent make the band. actually Money makes the band...without that what
    instuments are you going to play....(spoons, and plastic buckets!)
    
    Chris
811.14NEWOA::DALLISONBigger and better things.Tue Oct 22 1991 15:1718
    
    
    Its a sad fact that at Club level, a good image will probably carry the 
    band further than their music, that is to a certain point. If you have 
    two bands playing the club scene and one is a bunch of pretty boys with 
    big hair, big lips, big egos and no songs, they'll likley to get just as 
    many gigs (more?) as a band with good songs and an average stage show.
    
    The reason ? The bar/club owners. If they're gonna book a metal band
    they are going to want bring in the punters and make money. You'll
    probably find the owner doesn't like metal anyway and so he probably
    doesn't know a good band from a bad one. 
    
    I know as well as the rest of you people that the music should be all
    that matters, but the image thing (weather its glam or what) *is*
    becoming as important as the music itself. Maybe more ?
    
    -Tony 
811.15What it takes to get applause.WLDWST::EDWARDSTue Oct 22 1991 16:3510
    Something that I have noticed over the years is that even if the crowd
    likes a band that they haven't seen before, they won't applaud, or they 
    will give them the token golf clap.  As the band is playing you can
    see people tappin their foot or just gettin into it, the tune is over
    and they become to cool to give it up for the band.  What the hell's 
    going on with people today ?  Especially if the like another band that
    is playing that night.
    
    Bigilo
    
811.16METALX::SWANSONSheFlysStrangeWingsBehindThinDisguiseWed Oct 23 1991 12:344
    I know I don't applaud usually, even when I like a band.  Not really
    sure why...  It depends partially on how much I've had to drink!
    
    |KS|
811.18DPDMAI::THRELFALLFrank Zappa for President!Thu Oct 24 1991 13:3910
    I think it has more to do with people thinking their too cool to
    actually show some *enthusiasm* for the band.  It's really sad that a
    band has to get up on stage and sweat their a$$e$ off to entertain
    people when those people don't even pay attention except for the
    occasional glance at the stage.  Hey this isn't Television, it's LIVE! 
    I always yell at the top of my lungs if I like the band.  I usually get
    some pretty freaky looks, but do I look like I care?  *Hell no!*  I'm
    glad to hear this isn't only a Dallas thing.
    
    'pril
811.20DPDMAI::THRELFALLYou lie...and yo breath stank!Tue Oct 29 1991 13:109
    Hey Bildo, could you elaborate on that, like please?
    
    This made me laugh...Over the weekend I saw a band called Abbey Normal
    play at DCL (they're a rippin' 3 piece band, one of the few...) and
    the singer/bassist said to the crowd:  "Hey you guys wanna see our most
    inspired show of all time???"  To which the crowd replies "HELL YEAH!"
    (what else?)  So he goes: "Well then, INSPIRE ME, DAMMIT!" 
    
    'pril
811.22Half Way Home ???MCIS2::MCDONNELLTue Jan 21 1992 15:305
    	I was wondering if anyone from the LA area has seen or heard
    	of the band called Half Way Home. My buddy finished recording
    	them and will begin mixing this week.
    
    	Dave