Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    Saw these guys open for Extreme at the Orphium a couple months ago...
    IMO they were terrible on stage. Lead singer was a stiff the whole 
    night... Not a band you want opening for Extreme...
    
    
    W/

    Ya!!  Alice in Chains is cool.  I picked them up not knowing anything
    about them (just liked the cover art).  Man, I freaked out on their
    sound; very different!
    
    -------check 'em out!!!
    
    later 
    'april
    

    I saw AIC open for Extreme a while back...LAME-O!

    What is the cover art?  I've never seen the album.

    BTW, I for one appreciate April's enthusiasm!  Keep it up!

    gh

    Reply to Buck--- I agree Whole-Heartedly on AIC.... Yucko-Sucko-Phooey
    
    /wc
    

    Their cover art is of this dude with what looks like little
    pony-tail/braids in his hair screaming at the top of his lungs & it's
    got some wierd pattern in the background with all these psychedelic
    colors.  Pretty wierd; guess it goes hand in hand w/ thier music.
    
    Hey Buckley, give 'em another chance, eh?  Most bands sound like total
    sh!t live anyway.  Well, like I sed b-4....to each his own!!!
    ---c-ya
    'april

    HEY,
    Me and Buck do agree on something, It's amazing!!!!!!!!!!!
    These guys are boring and have no sense of melody.
    Maybe if I was on ac*d I might enjoy them but since
    those days are long gone they have no chance in my book!
    "THE MAN IN THE BOX" is very boring and sums up what I wish
    they would do:EX-"I'm the man in the box drowning in my
    SH*T."  I mean who in their right mind would like that?!!?!?
    
                      LATERS,
    
    
    
                    R A G M A N N
    

    I keep hearing a song by this band on Z-rock that's such an utter rip
    off of a Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush song that it's pathetic!  The
    intro and break of this song consist of the main riff from "The Answer"
    in 'em.
    
    gh

    re. Ragmann, A in your earlier days, humm that explains a lot.:^)
    					The KER
    

    What does that mean,KER!!
    
    Are you trying to sAY tHat"S thEreAsOn  I  ' M sO m e s sed
    UP!
    OR THAT WHY I SCREAM ALOT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    
     HUh??????????????????????????????
    
                          raGmAmnn
    
    

    Hey,don't forget--if you should ever be on that stuff-do what I do--
    
    Repeat:
    
    MMMeeeelllllllllllloooooooooooooowww
    
    MMMMeeelllllllllllllooooowwwwwowowoow
    
    I am Mellllllllllllllooooowwwowoowoow
    
    Then SCREAM at the top of your lungs!!!
    
        Crazy_works_for_me_Al

    are you on it just now??????
    
    
                                  ;)
                                    Staynz

      Just raggin ya RAGMAN. AHHH! AHHHH! AHHHHHHHHH!:^)
    					The KER
    

    
    	I heard that song "The Man in the Box" again last night, and
    	I like it ... not my favorite, but it's quite good.
    
    							GTI
    

    
      I just picked up Facelift last week at the CD library and I have to
    say that overall I like their sound.  It is quite 'Cultish' as said
    earlier but has a slightly harder edge to it.  What I like is that they
    have tried to create a sound of their own and mostly succeeded. 
    Musically there are some good riffs in there with an above average
    drummer helping out.  The singer is no screamer, though the lyrics are
    a bit wierd, and often offensive, and matches the general feel of the
    band.
    
    All in all I like this first album and look forward to hearing more
    from them in the future.  I am sure they will get even better.
    
    
    
    GAZ

    Lyrics often offensive?  In what way are they offensive?  Are they as
    bad as Coops notes?
    
    gh

    An awful lot of the F words sprinkled around.  Not really necessary in
    my opinion.  Guess I am getting a bit stuffy now that I got a little
    one to consider.
    
    
    GAZ

    
    I saw a video with these guys on eMpTyV last night..   What a bunch of
    HUNKS!
    
    I thought whatever the song was was pretty funky-chicken cool.. Except
    I couldn't make out one of the lines it said,  "Jesus Christ is bla bla
    bla"  It was in the chorus line..  
    
    Now don't tell me these guys are a Satan band!!  8*(
    
    Goddess F.

    Who knows - who cares ... the `Facelift' album is HOT !!!
    
    Scary (who's got his name in the first song on the album) 

    It's not easy being the Man in The Box...
    
    Crazy_Keep_the_BIG_S_outta_this-tune_AL

        I believe the chorus is something like. . .
        
        `Sa-a-a-aa-a-ave my eyes      (Remember how the video ends ?)
         Je-e-ee-sus Christ. . .'
        
        I saw that  video  over  the  weekend  too  and  I thought it
        rooled !  (Even  got  my  own  personalized  copy of the HBB,
        which I'm hoping this tune is on.  Anyone clarify ? :^))
        
        METALord"�

    
       It says " JJJeeeessssuuuussssss CCCCCChhhhrrrriiisssstttt-
    deny thy maker"
    
                          Frizkid
    

    
           Jesus Christ, 
           Deny your maker...
           He who tries
           Will be wasted...
           Feel my eyes
           Now you've sewn them shut...
                                         ALICE IN CHAINS RULZZZZZZZZZZZ
                                                          Jz
    .
                     

    
    
    Thanks Frizzy, Jz
    
    
    just curious, ya know
    
    
    Goddes who sez will skip on groceries and get this tape!

    Definately Babes... 8)

    I thought they looked like a group of street bums when i saw them with
    EX-Dream.  Funny what some good camera angles and quick shots will do
    for ya!

    Re: a few back.  So now everyone is an Alice in Chains fan!  Reading
    the first lot of notes nobody had a good word to say for them, now all
    of a sudden they are gold!  Sheesh.
    
    
    GAZ who liked them the first time he heard the album.

        The first  time  I  heard/saw  the  song/video, was this past
        weekend.  (You  know  us country people that don't know about
        cable television and indoor  plumbing.) Some of us are just a
        little slower in hearing groups for this reason.  Personally,
        I like what I heard over the weekend !!!
        
        Even cranked up the video of  `Man  in the Box' from HBB this
        morning. :^)
        
        METALord"�

    RE:-2
    I still have NOTHING good to say about them!!!8*p
    
         And I don't suppose I ever will!!!!
    
                               Frizkid
    
    

    I'm with Friz (for once).  I've heard nothing that impresses me outta
    them yet.  The main riff in that song getting airplay right now is a
    *blatant* rip off of a Frank Marino song from about '78.  Rehash.
    
    gh

    
    	Maybe they sampled the riff ... and that would make it OK.
    
    	[8^)]
    
    							GTI

     RE::-1 
    Very funny.......but true!8*(
    
                      Frizkid
    

    
    
    
    I'MMMM THE MAN IN THE BOX..

    Scaareeeeeeeeeeee's on the waaaaaaaaaaaall!!

    Damn right !   8^)
    
    Scary

    
    	Francine's p_n reminded me that I just got this album last week
    	and listened to it once through.  OK, but not great.
    
    	"Man in the Box" is the best, and the one that's right after it
    	is a close second, but I forgot what it's called.  The rest is
    	so-so.
    							GTI
    

    You are being very negative these days Shawn!
    
    Did somebody steal your whips and chains? (^8*
    
    
    GAZ

    
    
    Well I think the tape is awesome!  Of course, I'm still stuck on side
    1...
    
    Very different..  slow metal.. but heavy..  lyrics are cool!
    
    I think you have to be in the mood for it.. and you couldn't listen to
    it after listening to something thrashy, it would be a let down..
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    	}} Francine's p_n reminded me that I just got this album last week
    	}} and listened to it once through.  OK, but not great.
    
    
    Listen to it again !

    They're opening up for Van Halen here on Sept. 8th.

    
    
    Wel..  from what I've heard they are not that good live.. maybe they
    are only good in the studio!!  for now anyways, till they make money
    for better equipment or something..
    
    Goddess

    
    	"Sea of Sorrow" was the other one I liked.
    
    	If I think of it I'll give the CD another listen.
    
    							GTI

    
    	I listened to it again, after much prodding from April, and I
    	still think it's OK.  The 1st 3 songs are good, and then the
    	rest just kind of blends together ... nothing memorable.
    
    	For fans of these guys, I'd recommend listening to The Big F.
    	Their sound is similar ... except for the lead vocals.
    
    							GTI

    I didnt see any notes in here on Alice in Chains. They are a fairly
    new band out of Seattle. There music is catchy. Any other opinions!!
    
    
    /bob

    yeah, they rule!

      Hey.....
    
                Check 321 for the Alice in Chains topic......
    
               BTW- They're new vid. for Sea of Sorrow is out.
    
                    The singer cut his hair off.....
    
                                   Guess he's not buried in his SH*T
    anymore.
    
                          Frizkid
    

    No, his dreads were gettin gnarley lookin'...

     He wasn't getting any groupie action with dreads so......
    
              Snip..(YUK)...Snip (YUK)....Who cut your hair last?
    
                        Frizkid
    

    Once their tour with VH ends, Alice In Chains will return to the studio
    to record a new album with producer Dave Jerden. It's scheduled for a
    release in late summer/early fall.
    
                           Frizkid
        

    4 song EP just was released on CD last week.  Haven't heard it yet....
    
    HMRatt
    

Sounds like Man In The Box, Mike.

Eiii,yi-yi-yi-yi-yhaaaaa, Deny your maker (etc...or something ?).

That the one ?  Lemme know - I'll type the words in tonight.
We've got practice and Guido knows the words...

jc - Boyoboy this song is popular today!  Some one asked for the chords
     for it in GUITAR today too...

    No kidding ... a blues bro of mine got his guitar teacher to teach him
    this tune ... 8^)
    
    Jerry

    Mike: It says " Jesus Christ-Deny thy maker. "
    
                 Frizkid
    

    
    
    Why not?
    
    8*)
    
    
    Mikey if noone else does, I'll type the lyrics in Tuesday..  I know
    most of them by heart but I'm not 100% sure..
    
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    Why ask why? BUD DRY! BURRRRRRRRRRRP!

       The not so new but most recently released Alice in chains disc is a
    mini EP titled SAP, it has 5 tunes on it, 4 are acoustic and are
    totally cool, the 5th song isn't listed on the cover of the disc, it is
    just a bunch of noise and screwing around for the most part, I find it
    quite humorous that they call the song Love Song.
    
       The video that came with the CD when facelift was first released is
    real cool to. Unfortunately you have to buy it seperatley from facelift
    now. The video is titled Live Facelift. Check it out.
    
    
    T.J

    I've been meaning to post this forever...
    
    
    I really DIG the new AIC single, "Would" -- it's SO cool!!!

    Next thing you know you'll find yourself listening to SubPop
    compilations and grinning...

    >Next thing you know you'll find yourself listening to SubPop
    >compilations and grinning...
    
    You say that like it's a bad thing.
    BTW, the new Sub Pop compilation "Afternoon Delights" is groovin'
    
    -Bill
    

    >You say that like it's a bad thing.
    
    It *is* a bad thing ... SubPop SUX!

    Definately NOT a bad thing for me, I think SubPop's roolin!  Of all the
    artists that started there and went on to major labels (Nirvana and L7
    spring to mind), I tended to like the sound on the SubPop releases
    better.
    
    gh

    Buck" The title of the song is "WOLD"....FWIW. 
    
              Frizkid
    

    That's "WOULD" Friz...

    All the DJ's out here are saying it's spelled "WOLD"???
    
           O'well...Like I care. 8)
    
           Friz...I'm not glad to be back.
    

    Fwiw:  MTV has "WOULD" on the video!

    Since when has Mtv became an authority on anything?
      Mtv is just as f**ked up as the bands they play....
    
          Friz
    

    
    IT's spelled  "WOULD" I have the Singles cd.

    No matter how ya spell it...It sucks!
    
        Friz
    

    It's spelled "Would?" on the CD
                       ^
                       ^
                       ^
    

    
    Oh man... 

    How's about Wood or Woud or Whood or Whould
    
    :*)

    If a whould chuck coold chuck Would (e)
    
    
    

    The new Release DIRT is totally happenin....The sound floors me....its
    really cool...IMO that is...
    
    Bob

    yeah, it's pretty cool.  Their new stuff sounds like a mixture of Janes
    Addiction and Soundgarden.  Pretty cool, but definitley not as heavy as
    their first release.
    
    'pril

    It took me a couple of listens to really get into it. I originally
    thought Facelift was better, but now Ive changed my mind.
    
    Bob

    
    Dirt is Roolin'!
    
    
    
    

    -1...YES IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    :)
    
    I blew my stereo out saturday nite cranking DIRT up to 10 on the
    volume.

    DIRT is the only thing I've been listening to lately!
    
    I"m tellin ya, it's Soundgarden & Janes combined!
                                        
    Anyone agree?
    
    'pril

    
    I don't paticularly like Soundgarden, and I despise Janes Addiction.
    
    Yet I love this album.
    
    I'm not sure 'pril... ;')
    
    

    >I don't paticularly like Soundgarden, and I despise Janes Addiction.
    
    
    ...and you say you like Contagious?!?

    B- he hasnt heard ContaGiOus yet....
    
    DIRT Rools.......but I cant really compare it to anything.....
    
    Bob

    B2- I thought he had, sorry...
    
    To me, Contagious has shades of Janes, Soundgarden, and MLB which
    are intertwined with their own original style.

    
    Well if Dirt is considered a combo of Soundgarden and Janes then I'll
    absolutely loe ConTaGiouS
    
    

    I fackin' HATE Soundgarden and I HATE Janes even MORE but the new Alice
    in Chains is HOT!  
    
         Friz
    

    I haven't heard the whole album, but what I've heard from AiC sounds
    NOTHING like Jane's!  Contagious, on the other hand, clearly has some
    JA influence to my ear.
    
    gh

    AiC sounds ***NOTHING*** Like Janes....AiC is much heavier and
    very depressing, but it kicks some serious *ss...Greg...Listen to
    the whole thing!!!

    I'd love to, but I go *no* spare funds right now, and three or four
    other albums ahead of it on the old "wish list".
    
    Anyone around Co. Springs wanna let me borrow it?
    
    gh

    Man...I just finished listening to this entire tape (again) while stuck in
    traffic.......It FACKIN RIPPPPPPSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    Bob

    i agree that most of the CD doesn't sound like Janes, but some parts
    kinda do, like the intro to Hate to Feel.
    
    danielle

    Ok, so I've been listening to "dirt" for a couple of days now.  You may
    ask "So...how'd you like it, Greg?"  
    
    Well, I'd have to say that it's got it's weirdities, but I really like
    it right now.  "Down in a Hole" is an absolutely ROOLIN tune!!!
    
    Looking for this note, I checked a couple of old replies, pretty
    interesting...
    
>================================================================================
>Note 321.27                      Alice In Chains                       27 of 100
>CAVLRY::BUCK "sun beats down on the cold steel rails" 3 lines  17-JUN-1991 15:56
>                                   -< bums! >-
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    I thought they looked like a group of street bums when i saw them with
>    EX-Dream.  Funny what some good camera angles and quick shots will do
>    for ya!
    
    This is really funny, 'cause that's *exactly* the same thing I thought
    when I saw both the videos from "Facelift".  They seemed to have found
    a shower since then...
    
>================================================================================
>Note 321.30                      Alice In Chains                       30 of 100
>COMET::FRISBYA "TEN YEARS GONE"                       8 lines  18-JUN-1991 11:55
>                  -< I'd rather watch Alice in Wonderland!! >-
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    RE:-2
>    I still have NOTHING good to say about them!!!8*p
>    
>         And I don't suppose I ever will!!!!
>    
>                               Frizkid
    
    Wrong-O!  He loves "dirt"!  I thought this was funny seeing how he
    ragged 'em so hard and then turns around liking it...  ;^)
    
    gh
                                                             

    I forgot to mention in my last note that there's an interview with the
    guitar player for AiC in the current Guitar World magazine.  
    
    It's fairly interesting reading, a couple of things he said I thought
    were worth writing in here.
    
    One was that he said when he first wrote the song "Down in a Hole", he
    didn't think the band would ever want to record it 'cause it was so
    light, but he played it for 'em and they loved it!  I'm kind of
    surprised, since it's one of my favorite tracks, and doesn't sound out
    of place to me at all!
    
    He also said that he was sure people would take the song Junkhead out
    of the context in the album and think they were "waving the flag" for
    drug use.  But he said that in the album context, it was actually a
    very strong statement against drug use, since several of those songs
    there were intended to be played together, as a medly.  Junkhead, Dirt,
    Godsmack, Hate to Feel, and Angry Chair all go together as a set.
    
    Greg

    cool tune!

    If you like that one, you'd probably like the rest of the album too. 
    It's a good example of what the sound's like.
    
    gh

I've been listening to 'Dirt' a bit lately. I didn't expect to like it much,
but thought I'd give it a fair shot. It surprised me a bit - there's some
decent stuff on here! It's not a great album or anything, but it doesn't
really s*ck like I thought it would! 

My favorite tune has to be "Rain When I Die" - this tune is awesome! It 
totally reminds me of early Blue Oyster Cult, right down to the harmony
vocal lines and the cool odd-time-signature guitar riffing!

I also liked "Junkhead" a lot, too. That trilogy (or whatever it's supposed
to be) is all pretty decent.

Their sound grated on me after a while, so it really had to be a well written
song in order for me to like it. "Rain When I Die" definitely falls in that
category, as may some of the other ones.....

alan

    I don't feel like going through this note to see if it's been mentioned
    yet, but has anyone listened to SAP yet?  It's AWESOME.  Acoustical
    A.I.C....
    
    :), danielle

    I heard that Mike Starr left Alice in Chains about two weeks ago...
    Does anyone know why? Does anyone know who the dude is that they got
    to replace him? (the new dude is already touring with the band.)

    
    Tony Inez former bassist for Ozzy Ozbourne.
    
    They are coming back to america soon to do another tour. YES!!
    
    

    
    They were supposed to open up for Metallica on this leg of their tour
    but because the they didn't have a bassist at time of contract signing,
    the deal fell through. 
    
    Chance like that would have made AiC huge.
    
    

    I was bummed when Lars said that at the Metallica concert....I would
    have loved to see A.I.C.....
    
    >Chance like that would have made AiC huge.
    They were nominated for a Grammy last night...so they're making it....
    
    :), d

    
    Yeah but they lost to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. How bogus.
    
    

    -1.........Agreed!....AiC is much better then the RHCP!...

Red Hot Chili Peppers seem relatively tame compared to AiC or Nine Inch
Nails.  Oh well...  I guess this means no one will like RHCP anymore...

Tim

    
    Nine Inch Nails was in another category all together. They won a grammy
    for "Wish" in Best Heavy Metal.
    

    
    
    anyone seen the newest AC vid? Pretty cool.... 
    
    Jim-

    which one?

    
    Which one?
    
    

    
    Can you say notes collision?
    
    ;')
    
    

    Chris and I were on the same wavelength at the same time....

    
    
    The slow tune they got on the radio now.. Its.. uhh.. wow.. total 
    mind blank.. can't think of the name?!!! (doesn't help that I have
    metallica playing in the background.. )
    
    Whit-

    
    	rooster...?
    
    	/b

    
    Rooster? Dig it.
    
    I saw the video for Would? the other day for the first time.
    
    Cool letterboxing.
    
    

    I bet it's Down in a Hole.....I didn't know that they released that 
    song yet....that's one of my fav ones.....
    
    :), d
    

    Duh.  i think it is Rooster.....it's been released last and they do have
    a vid for it...which I haven't seen....
    
    :), d
    

    The whole album smokes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    

    The new vid is Rooster....its great!!! I love AiC!!!
                                                        Rat

    No he ain't gonna diiiiiiiiiie!

    But when he does I think its gonna rain!
                                            Rat

    I saw the vid for this on HBB Saturday night.  Well done, with a lot of
    impact.  I don't expect to see it much during the day though...
    
    gh

    Wrong Greg...I just saw it an hour ago. Why wouldn't you think they'd
    show it during the day?!?
                             Rat

    I thought it was pretty heavy material for MTV's regular daytime rotation. 
    
    I mean, yeah, they do show heavy stuff occasionally during the day, I
    even saw NIN's "Wish" for the first time during the day, but it's not a
    regular thing.
    
    Gh

    re: .128
    WHen he dies.

    I remember pissing on this band because I hated the 
    song Man in the Box... but I'm a convert to AiC now
    because of DIRT. Incredible album... well, actually
    I tend to rewind side one over and over again, and
    then play the first song on my Singles soundtrack
    to pick up my other fave Alice toon. I'm so bored with
    most bands, and new bands, but this album really
    surprised the heck outta me.
    
    I think the reason the songs are so good, is because
    Layne Staley (especially) and Jerry Cantrell are both
    f***ed up with drug/booze problems (read the long article
    in Rolling Stone a few months back?) and that sense of
    frustration, and desperation makes a nice cesspool of 
    emotions to draw from when writing such wonderfully
    depressing, and angry songs. Unfortunately, the best efforts
    of many bands, in my opinion, are usually created when they're
    dirtbags (i.e. GnR, Motley Crue, Aerosmith, etc.)
    
    /M
                                                          

    Hmmmmmmm....
    
    :), danielle

    
    great insights there mike :').  emotional cesspools... hah hah !!
    

    In the liner for Dirt... it says that Tom Araya appears
    courtesy of blah blah etc.
    
    What track(s) does the Slayer frontman sing on?
    
    /M

    
     I heard that AiC's singer collapsed onstage somewhere...
    
    
    anyone know more about this?
    
    /Mike

    
>     I heard that AiC's singer collapsed onstage somewhere...
    
    
	Can anybody cut thru the mud and answer this?

	/Cap'n Quad

    
    
    
    Yup, he collapsed from exhaustion.... 

    I think it was just his vein that collapsed...

    Facelift blows.
    
    Dirt is brilliant.
    

"No Excuses" totally rules, I love this song!!

Gotta pick up the 'Jar Of Flies' EP and check the rest out.

alan

    
    
       Jar of Flies has some pretty mellow stuff on it. They are cool songs
    but I wanted more fast stuff.
    
    
    
    
                                                *B*

    According to an interview in Guitar Player a month or two ago, Jar of
    Flies is essentually an acoustic album, with a little clean electric
    thrown in.  It's in the stores now.  My impression from the interview
    was that it was EP length, is that correct?
    
    I heard one song off it on a college radio station a few days ago and
    thought it was very good.  Didn't catch the name of the song though.
    
    Greg

    
    	RE: .154
    
    	Dragged down .. beneath the wheel!!
    
    							GTI

    I love the new one...
    The mood of the EP ( which has seven songs ) sends chills down my
    spine.
    I can't put it down!
    
    chris
    

    The Vidio for "No_Excuses"shows like A Bunch_A Circus/Freak Performers
    on A Stage.OfCourse there's A_Lot of Other Stuff goin on.
    I think this band may be Leadin_Up to an Apperance on"Un_Plugged".
    
    I've heard of"Box_Of_Frogs"...And now we have"Jar_Of_Flies".
    Whats Next??   "Container_Of_Condors"???  ;_)
    
      Crazy_Put_That_CD_Down,Chris.You_Look_Like_Eddy_CD_Hands_Al
    

I have "No Excuses" its excellent... I would say it is mellow compared to
some of their early stuff and I don't think its quite as dark in its lyrics.
Kinda of long for an EP but, who the heck knows how they figure out whats
what...   if your a big A.I.C. fan then you should get this....

    Dan

    	
     	Alice In Chains, "Jar Of Flies" has to be one of the best new rock 
    discs I've heard in awhile. From the fast paced "Swing On This" to the 
    acoustic work of "Don't Follow" every song is high! 
    	So much for studio work. Has anyone heard them live? where can I 
    get live Alice In Chains?

    
    	I think it's horrible.
    
    	In order:
    
    	"Dirt"
    	"Facelift"
    	...
    	...
    	"Jar of Flies"
    
    							GTI
    

    I think its awesome!
    
    Check like Strawberries for LIVE stuff,,,
    
    SueJ

>    	I think it's horrible.
    
    We disagree again.  I haven't heard all of it yet, but I've heard
    probably 4-5 songs (it's an EP, right?  Not much more then that?) and
    I've liked them all.  Dirt is also a good album.
    
    Greg

    
    	Yeah, I think it has 7 songs on it.
    
    	And I KNOW it sucks.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    everything I've heard from it sounded good to me!Very *non* shite! 8)
    
    
    
    
    					ian

    
    
    	Heard on WAAF this afternoon ...
    
    	Lead singer of Alice in Chains is whittling himself away
    	to nothing with his heroin addiction ........  they say 
    	he weighs all of about 80 pounds right now........
    

    
    
     That's what  GTI weighs but he doesn't do drugs....I guess he has
    the same problem as Garcia....except he weighed hundreds of pounds...
    
    /Sporty

    Heard a new tune by AIC last night on the Radio...called.....come on
    brain, FUNCTION...Oh yah, "GRIND".
    Pretty decent, heavy groovy sound. I'd have to hear it again to compare
    it to anything as I was only half listening and watching the Tribe
    whoop the Mariners.
    
    Paully

    Heard that....VERY HEAVY!!! Thought it was amazing.
    
    

    Re: .169
    I thought you didn't like grunge/metal/cUGG-CUgg/Seattle type stuff
    anymore???   Jimmy prodigy.
    
                                      TRM
            

    That's JIMI...and you know me better than that! Besides, I was in sort
    of an enhanced listening state.That AIC tune kicks serious a$$.
    
    -k

I bought the new CD this weekend, and I'm disappointed.  Although I have to
admit I expected to be, considering "GRIND" is the tune chosen to promote it.  I
think "GRIND" is OK, but doesn't come close to their earlier stuff.  (Just to
put things in perspective, "Dirt" is one of my favorite albums of all time.)

They seem to have lost their versatility...  all the songs sound the same.  And
Cantrell just doesn't stand out.  It did take a while for some of the stuff on
"Facelift" to grow on me, so maybe the same will happen with this CD.  But,
truthfully, I don't exactly have a burning desire to listen to it again.

Val 

    The new album is awesome, you just have to listen to it a few times,
    Shame on you is just flawless, it's just a brilliant album.
    
    Simon.

    So how do you just really feel, Simon?
    
    'pril

    
    I picked up the new one as well...good stuff.  Strange art going
    on in the liner.  What the hell's up with that three-leg thing
    on the reverse anyhow?!?!?
    
    Kev --
    

You're right -- I just needed to spin that CD a few more times.  Shame in You is
my favorite.  But I still miss the instrumentals like those in Dam That River,
Dem Bones, Man in the Box, etc.  That type of sound is missing on this CD.

Val

David Letterman had Alice in Chains on last night.

They have a much heavier sound live than on their discs.  Lead vocalist
attened the Michael Stipe "stand motionless behind the microphone" technique.

Good job - sounded like some medley their stuff...

Tim

    
    Arghhhhh! I walked out of the room and when I came back letterman was
    off and I didn't even hear them start playing! I was out earlier that
    evening though....at a couple local drinking establishments...but that
    wasn't really a factor....oh well, maybe next time!
    
    And yes, from what I have seen of them on mtv he pretty much stands
    there and sings...Stipes at least bops around somewhat (from what I've
    seen)....
    
    

    RE: last couple
    
    	Crap! I knew I was missing something that night! Does anyone know
    if Dave was afraid of them?
    
    	While we're on the subject of AIC, has anyone out there heard the
    SOLO tune from Jerry Cantrell?
    
    	What I heard of it the other day was pretty cool...It sounded very
    AICish but no Layne, not that thats a good/bad thing.  I'm all for SOLO
    projects as long as it doesn't mean a break up somewhere down the line!
    
    	J 

    
    It was excellent ! I loved it ! Dave might have been slightly scared...
    He shook all of their hands quickly and walked off ....
    
    

    In case anyone wanted to know more about the Jerry Cantrell tune, this
    is the info I got...
    
    The tune is called "Leave me Alone" and it's written and performed
    mainly by Jerry Cantrell & Sean Kinney.  It seems with Layne being
    in an addictions program of some sort and bassist Mike Innez of doing
    some side project including work with Ozzy, Jerry and Sean decided to
    goof around with a tune. They did pretty good IMHO! 
    
    The tune can be found on the new soundtrack for "The Cable Guy"...
    The new Jim Carrey flick, apparently Jim picked most of the songs
    for the Sndtrk, other groups include Silverchair & White Zombie if
    I'm not mistaken.
    
    Later

    
    	There are already ads for "The Cable Guy", and it's still a
    	month away.
    

    
    there was a video for Jim Carrey's single on MTV the other day.Its a 
    cover of the old Jefferson Airplane song "somebody to love"
    
    
    						Ian

    
    
    COOL!!!!

    RE: .183
    
    	Am I to understand that Jim is singing this tune?
    
    I gotta see dis!

    
    Yes, apparently Jim does the singing.  Apparently the scene is where he, 
    as a psycho cable guy, has taken over the posh home of a cable customer and
    is throwing a wild party.
    
    The clip I saw had him standing in front of a screen with psychodelic
    swirling colors doing his thing.
    
    /jen

    RE: .186
    
    Thanks Jen!
    
    	Lookin' forward to seein' it!

    
    re: -2
    
    I saw that!!! I didn't have the sound up on the ol' funny box, but I
    did see him with that swirling clored thing behind him.
    Yes, it was cool.
    
    Dave
    

    J
    
    Speaking of Alice in Chains...............
    
    Pete

    Oh...uhm...my dog ate it!
    
    Yeah Yeah thats the ticket.
    
    How bout Friday I bring it back to ya when we get FUBAR'd at Wiley's?

    J,
    
    That's great...only..I don't go to any place that serves beverages of
    that sort.  
    
    YA RIGHT!!!!
    
    Sounds good man see ya there

    
    Hey Pete,
    
    Make sure that in our states of inebriation J doesn't get any other
    CD's off ya!!! You'll never get 'em back!! =)
    
    Dave
     

    Oh yeah by the way Pete...can I borrow your car keys?  [^;

    
    
    Anyone see the Unplugged on MTV??  I taped it when it was on
    and thought it was pretty good.  Layne looked, well, looked
    interesting?~?~?~?~?  They sounded good and thats what counts,
    I'm sure this'll be out on CD any time now.
    
    Watching this video, you can tell this is totally Cantrell's band,
    not Layne's, although Layne gets most of the press.  Any thoughts?
    
    CF

    I heard they looked all cracked out.
    

    What?  A.I.C. looked cracked out...nah...couldn't've?  [^8=
    
    	Anyone know where a Canuck could get a copy of this?  (I hope
    MuchMusic picks it up!)
    
    Cantrell is definately the b**ls behind this band!  Layne is still
    freakin' great with them and couldn't see them ditchin anyone in there!
    
    Except that first bassist who didn't like tourin'!  (Part of the "Where is 
    he now?" crowd!)
    
    	J

    
    
    I don't think it was crack  8*}
    
    
    
    CF

    Heroin.  My prediction is that Lane will die soon from it too.  What a
    shame.  If you noticed he had on gloves to hide the track marks on the
    webs of his hands.  Always does. 

    
    I noticed that too.  Did you read the Rolling Stone article
    a few months ago??
    
    He'd definatly be the #1 Draft pick if I was in a Dead Pool!!!
    
    
    CF

That article said that some of the fascination with smack is because it makes
you cool - sort of like Keith Richards.  I consider Keith a great musician, but
also a poster boy for everything abuse...

I mean who'd want to look anything like him???

Strangge.

    
    No doubt, Keith is the man.  Great guitarist in the Greatest Rock
    and Roll Band of all time.  I wouldn't want to live his life-style
    though, or Laynes for that matter.  Saw an interview with Richards
    on VH1, he was a mess, and has been for a long time.
    
    Note the personal name, you'll recognize it if you're a big
    Keith fan.
    
    
    CF
    

    I Better Walk Before They Make me Run?
    
    
    
       Crazy_Watch_My_Tail_Lights_Fadin_Al

    
    Crazy_Underscore_Al knows!!!!
    
    
    They Started Dancin' & Drinkin' as I Left Town-CF

    Just to let my fellow Canuck'lheads (or Amerks that can get MuchMusic)
    A.I.C. will be doin' the unplugged thing on July 22 at 8pm.  I think
    this was previously shown on MTV so from what I've heard it's pretty
    goodly! 

    It is very good . They will be releasing it on disc soon too.

    Thanx J!.....
    
    DAMMIT!  I'm working then!
    
    Paully 8)
    

    
    SUX2BU
    

    Up from the dead comes.....
    
    Petey's catch-phrase!!!
    
    Paully 8)

    GEE,
    
    I feel so honoured.  Thanks for the recognition.
    
    Petey (who will be sure to program the vcr) :-)
    
    
     

    
    I got Facelift and Dirt from Columbia House the other day.
    Dirt has a lot of familiar tunes, while Facelift only has one.
    
    Overall, both are pretty good.
    
    Does anyone know if they have anything out brfore Facelift??
    
    Dave
    

    
    re: .210
    
    Only one familiar tune? There were two minimum played on the radio, Man
    in the Box, and the second tune on the disc. I am pretty sure there
    were at least one other that got airplay. But the first two tracks were
    on the radio.
    
    Before facelift...not to my knowledge...
    
    

    RE: Davey
    
    I don't think there's another album before Facelift, but there are alot
    of side projects that they have done with other bands (band members)
    like Mad Season (if ya like Laynes voice?) And apparently Mad Seasons
    only album (Above) did so well, the guys are going to make another!
    
    My only prob with Facelift was all the tunes sounded the same?!?!
    
    The ones that I like are...Man in the Box, Scary, Sunshine & Sea
    of Sorrow.
    
    And don't forget...they'll be releasing an "Unplugged" album real soon!

    
    re .211
    
    Man in the Box is the only tune that I recognized. Nothing else sounded
    familiar to me. I'm sure that they had one or two other singles, but
    Man in the Box is the only one that I've heard before.
    
    Dave
    

    
    re: .213
    
    The first two tracks were radio hits in the U.S. off the facelift cd. I
    think there were one or possibly two more that made it to the airwaves
    later on down the road. It does sound kind of similar throughout the
    disc, but is mostly pretty good! 
    
    Mike
    

    Just heard that the "unplugged" CD will come out next week.  One new
    song is included.
    
    Paully 8)
    

    
    Seen the 'unplugged' show on Muchmusic tonight.
    
    BORING!!! And Stayley(sp) looked really, really bad. His voice seemed
    off a bit too. 
    All the songs are familiar, and the music was played very well, but the
    singing from Cattrell and Stayley was pretty bad. 
    
    Dave
     

    
    	Davey, perhaps you should jack-hammer some of that wax outta
    your ears...*)) I saw the show two nights ago on the french Much
    Music (musique Plus) and the show smoked,  they sounded great, and
    were very tight musically...This CD is definately gonna kick some
    Unplugged Ass...
    
    	Bobby T

    Bobby did ya tape it on Much/Plus?
    What about you Davey did you...or how about Paully?  Gawd I hope
    someone taped it!   Even despite markin the ol calendars I still forgot
    it!

    
    	Maybe you should have marked a new calendar instead.
    

    
    <---- bwaaahahahaha. He gotcha again Jason. 8)
    
    Bobby T.,
    The show didn't 'smoke'. It was very boring really. I thought Staley's
    singing wasn't as good as it could've been. Maybe it was him just
    staring at the lyrics sheet not moving had something to do with it... I
    dunno..
    
    Dave
    
    oh and Bob, don't be trashin' security, we can get right nasty on you.
    8))))
    

    
    re: .220
    
    Not moving? Any time I've seen them in a video, live on mtv, etc.... he
    just basically stands their holding himself up on the mic stand.... The
    mosh pit was going rather well though!
    
    

    	You guys have got to be less critical, most bands I've seen doing
    MTV Unplugged weren't doing anything amazing. The fact of the matter is
    that all in all they sounded good, hell they haven't played a gig
    together in three years. Thats not to mention Layne was fresh out of
    rehab. I think Down in a Hole sounded mint the harmonies by Staley and
    Cantrell were perfect. Then the rest of the band sounded Pretty damn
    good too. Just try to chill on being such a critic and try to remember
    these are people too, and they have problems like you and I.
    
    
                                                Jim
    

    
    So I'm too critical. I didn't like it and I stated why.
    

    Jay.....
    
    Yes...I taped it!
    
    Paully 8)
    

     
    uh oh Paully, you know what it's like when you feed a stray animal....
    they never leave you alone. 8^)
    
    Dave
    

    I know, I'm still trying to get you off my back after lending you LOAD!
    8)
    
    Paully 8)
    

    
    or you after lending you Facelift.... or the Wall of Rock party.....
    
    

    OUCH B!T@H!!  That stung....
    
    
    Well Davey I hate(not really) to slam you again...but>>>
    
    I just finished watching the Unplugged show and it was pretty good. 
    What were you watching.  Layne was a little frail looking, but I
    thought his voice was fine.  The only real surprise I had was that I
    never realized Jerry Cantrell sang as much as he does on the recordings.
    
    I would certainly place it above alot of the "Unplugged" specials I've
    seen.  Alot better than the Nirvana one.
    
    Paully 8)

    
    Anything is better than the Nirvana one.
    
    Except for this one!!!!!
    Just kidding. 
    But seriously, I didn't like this at all. I know that vocalist have to
    warm up and such, but I think he didn't warm up enough.
    Layne was more than frail looking, he looked like he was 'hurting'
    bigtime.
    
    Dave
    

    All this "Unplugged" talk has brought up a question,  If Milli-Vanilli
    did an Unplugged album, would you hear anything??
    
    Paully 8)
    

>>>            -< Stevie Ray Unplugged...that would have been a show! >-

He did do an Unplugged show.  I've seen parts of it.  He started out kinda
tentative but realy started flying at the end.  They play it once in a while

I wish they'd replay that instead of the 'fn stupid dating game show they
have on all the time.

    
    re-1
    agreed....the dating game is waaay 'fn stoopid!
    
    
    								ian

    
    	I watch it occasionally just to stare at Jenny McCarthy.
    

    I got to watch the "unplugged" MTV thingy on the weekend (thanks to
    Paully) of A.I.C. and was very impressed.  A little worried at first
    when Layne first started singing "Nutshell", he just sounded off.  But
    got in the groov after a couple of notes. He looked real rough too! 
    Not the tough kinda rough, but the unhealthy, death warmed over rough!
    
    All in all, I will most likely pick up the unplugged CD sometime in the
    future.
    
    
    	J

      I picked up the cd this weekend, and it is really good. There is a
    new song that Mtv didn`t show, it`s called "Killer is Me" and it is
    cool. I noticed that they have overdubbed the vocals on the disc.
    Sounds lots better.  The Mtv presentation was definately lacking in
    the vocals dept, but it`s all good on the disc.

    Just heard an interesting piece of trivia on the radio.  During the
    taping of the Unplugged special, there were 400 fans in
    attendance...including all 4 members of Metallica.
    
    Paully 8)
    

    
    	Paully, when my buddies meet the guys from Metallica at the
    Lalapooluza, they said that Metallica demanded that the record company
    fly them in for the taping. Apparently they are all very good friends,
    and there is one part in the CD, where it sounds like the bassist is
    doing Enter Sandman, and the drummer comes in for second or two, then
    they go into one of their own tunes...
    
    		Bobby T