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113.1 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | It's not my fault | Sat Jun 16 1990 18:31 | 32 |
| The method of notating in shorthand refers to sections as A,B,C.
AABA Verse 1, verse 2, Chorus. OK You knew that! What it gives you
also is a compositional method that simply varies with whim. Whim
tends to vary with the popular taste of the time. The form you give in
the previous note wouldn't be well known in 50's music, which used alot
of A B A B stuff. Traditional folk music uses this. So when people
wanted to make music sound like folk music they would right A B A B.
There are kindof standard forms for alot of sounds. Classical music
talks alot about the Sonata foem, but uses words like Theme,
Developement and recapitulation . A B A, but B here is derived from A.
You can go on forever analyzing this stuff, and the worse thing about
it is there are different schools of analysis. A jazz person most
likely would vary enough in his analysis, even though consistent in his
school of thought, from a classical person as to make it incorrect when
compared to the classical school. This is what drove me crazy about
going to Berklee and the Conservatory, these guys would eat each other
up for no reason.
Guns and Roses sure does sound simpler than Metallica. When you hear
GaR talk about songs like they did in the 60, they talk about a certain
method of putting the blocks together. Even Metallica , if they used
the same methods, would sound something the same.
This is what I mean when I talk about commercial pop, at Berklee
for example they show you This goes after This, but you can't get to A
frm B by having this fifth note of the scale in the bass.
They use alot of formulas to make music that will be modeled after
commercially successful stuff, in order to enhance the commercial-ness
of it.
Beethovan hated this stuff, he broke all the rules, and FWIW died
in abject poverty. I love Beethovan.
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113.2 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Speed daemon... | Sat Jun 16 1990 20:04 | 7 |
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2 notes in one week from Toenail that make
sense!! Been going to therepy? :')
Good note guy...
:')
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113.3 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Mon Jun 18 1990 05:09 | 20 |
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This is interesting guys.
I've been writing lotsa songs for DLA latley, and I find
most of the stuff seems to be in the format very similar to
.0 like
Intro
Verse
Verse
Chorus
Verse
Solo
Chorus to fade
I'm gonna print out Toe's analysis and try and get out of this
cliche-rut 8^).
Cheers,
-Tony
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113.4 | | MRVAX::ALECLAIRE | It's not my fault | Mon Jun 18 1990 10:09 | 4 |
| better than that, listen to a record and catch the structure .
like Sweet Child of Mine, intro, verse, I forget the rest.
imitate it in a tune you write.
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113.5 | 8) | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Tue Jun 19 1990 09:12 | 10 |
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I did that too Toe!!
I took a song I really liked, and whilst I made it totally differnt,
change the words, and the stroy and the groove and all the guitar/bass
/drum parts I stole the basic structure.
Worked well but I refused to let the band do it coz its plagraism.
-Naughty_Tone
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113.6 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | It's not my fault | Wed Jun 20 1990 14:53 | 3 |
| Balogney. You can't plagurize the structure, because by itself it is
not copywrited. Nor is it copywritable. How can you copywrite a
formula, AABA ? Like, snoidu ever see Young Einstien?
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113.7 | so I *can* rewrite stairway to heaven 8^) | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Thu Jun 21 1990 04:50 | 5 |
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Er... nope, never saw the movie.
Cheers,
-Tony
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113.8 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | Disk Tracy | Fri Jun 22 1990 09:35 | 3 |
| He tries to patent E=MC*2 as a way to add bubbles to beer.
But that was in Oz.
Former British Colony.
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113.9 | | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | E=mc� - the formula for beer bubbles ! | Fri Jun 22 1990 12:54 | 4 |
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See P_name ! :^) Good flick Tony !
METALord"�
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