Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    The Boston MUsic awards COULD be a respectable LOCAL music
    award show, but in the past 2 years that I have attended 
    the BMA has proven itself to be a(nother) popularity contest.
    I am sure that the New Kids on the Block will walk away with
    a few awards, even though in '86 the audience Booed them during
    their pathetic, lip-synched performance of "The Right Stuff".
    Hopefully this year will be a little more "open minded" and 
    reward some bands that have been overlooked in the past years.
    I have nothing against A-smith or T-Tuesday, but there are a 
    LOT more bands out there that deserve awards other than the
    ones who have "made it" (or kinda made it).
    With 1600-2000 "local" bands playing around Mass., there has to
    a greater selection of artists other than the big "Boston"
    regulars, (such as J.Geils, Boston, Cars, 'til tuesday, Aerosmith).
    
    There is a lot of talent in the Boston area, and it's time the
    BMA started to recognize and award them for the efforts.
    
    chUck
    
    Even though the awards may be pathetic, the BMA is a good place to 
    mingle with some some of the Boston area "biggies", such as Pat Methany,
    Greg Hawkes, Ben Orr, etc.                        

    
    IF the awards are voted on by the people of Boston and not given
    out by a committee then it is up the the club going public to
    use those write in spaces for bands that have yet to make it.
    
    It becomes a popularity contest if people (the voters) allow
    it too.
    
    Renee

    
    
    According to an article in the paper, the final awards will be
    chosen on a 50-50 basis between the public and industry reps.
    
    Here's a list of some nominees:
    
    ACT OF THE YEAR
    Aerosmith, Bobby Brown, Tracy Chapman, New Kids On The Block, Bonnie
    Raitt.
    
    RISING STAR
    Bullet LaVolta, Finest Hour, Heretix, Pixies, Raindogs
    
    OUTSTANDING FEMALE VOCALIST (major label)
    Tracy Chapman, Kristin Hersh (Throwing Muses), Cinde Lager (East of
    Eden), Aimee Mann (Til Tuesday), Bonnie Raitt
    
    OUTSTANDING MALE VOCALIST (major label)
    Bobby Brown, Gary Cherone (Extreme), Ray Lemieux (Heretix), Steve Tyler
    (Aerosmith), Dan Zanes (the Del Fuegos)
    
    OUTSTANDING LOCAL FEMALE VOCALIST
    Juliana Hatfield (Blake Babies), Janet LaValley (Tribe), Miss Xanna
    Don't, Laurie Sargent, Didi Stewart
    
    OUTSTANDING LOCAL MALE VOCALIST
    Dennis Brennan (Young Neal & the Vipers), Nat Freeberg (the Titanics),
    Dave Herlihy (O Posative), Garr Lange (...&The Big Rig) Manny
    Verzosa (Walkers), Barrence Whitfield (...& the Savages)
    
    OUTSTANDING POP/ROCK ALBUM (major label)
    Pump (Aerosmith), Dance!...Ya Know it! (Bobby Brown), Smoking In The
    Fields (The Del Fuegos), Merry Merry Christmas (NKOTB), Nick of Time
    (Bonnie Raitt)
    
    OUTSTANDING POP/ROCK ALBUM (indie label)
    Earwig (Blake babies), On Fire (Galaxie 500), Blues End Blue (the
    Neats), Jonathan Richman (Jonathan Richman), Greetings from
    Nowhere USA (T.H. and the Wreckage)
    
    OUTSTANDING DEBUT POP/ROCK ALBUM (major label)
    The Gift (Bullet LaVolta), East Of Eden (East of Eden), Extreme
    (Extreme), Doolittle (Pixies), Down on the Floor (Zulus)
    
    OUTSTANDING DEBUT POP/ROCK ALBUM (indie label)
    Buffalo Tom (Buffalo Tom), Allizogod (Dogzilla), Ed's Day (Ed's
    Redeeming Qualities, Hire A Bird (Think Tree), And At The End 
    Of The Day (Walkers)
    
    OUTSTANDING POP/ROCK SINGLE (major label)
    Jainie's Got a Gun (Aerosmith), On Our Own (Bobby Brown), I'll
    Be Loving You Forever (NKOTB), Here Comes Your Man (Pixies)
    Nick of Time (bonnie Raitt)
    
    OUTSTANDING POP/ROCK SINGLE (indie)
    Just Like Heaven (Dinosaur Jr.), Lawn Dart (Ed's Redeeming Qualities)
    Everything Changes (the Joneses), Hire A Bird (Think Tree), 89�
    (Walkers)
    
    OUTSTANDING POP/ROCK BAND
    Aerosmith, The Del Fuegos, Extreme, New Kids On The Block, Treat Her
    Right
    
    OUTSTANDING LOCAL ROCK BAND
    The Bags, The Cavedogs, T.H. and the Wreckage, The Titanics, Tribe
    
    OUTSTANDING NEW LOCAL ROCK BAND
    Green Magnet School, Hell Toupee, The Immortals, Think Tree, Well Babys
    
    OUTSTANDING CLUB BAND
    The Fools, the Neighborhoods, O Positive, Trive, Barrence Whitfield
    and the Savages
    
    OUTSTANDING HARD ROCK/HEAVY METAL ACT
    Bullet LaVolta, Extreme, Kid Crash, Pieces, Wargasm, New Kids On the
    Block (just checkin'...are ya still with me??)
    
    OUTSTANDING R&B ACT
    bobby Brown, Finest Hour, New Edition, New Kids On the block,
    Perfect Gentlemen
    
    OUTSTANDING RAP ACT
    GSP, MC Spider, RSO Crew, T.D.S. Mobb, Top Choice Clique
    
    OUTSTANDING REGGAE/SKA ACT
    Bim Skala Bim, Bop (Harvey), I-Tones, Shy Five, Danny Tucker Band
    
    OUTSTANDING JAZZ ACT (major label)
    Chick Corea Akoustic Band, Full Circle, Deborah Henson-Conant,
    Pat Metheny Group, Tiger's Baku
    
    OUTSTANDING LOCAL JAZZ ACT
    Jay Branford Septet, Either/Orchestra, The Fringe, New Black Eagle
    Jazz Band, Orange Then Blue
    
    OUTSTANDING JAZZ ALBUM (major label
    Real Life Story (Terri Lynne Carington), Myth America (Full Circle),
    Legend of Tsumi (Laszlo Gardony), Christopher Holiday (Christopher
    Holiday), Letter From Home (Pat Metheny Group)
    
    OUTSTANDING JAZZ ALBUM (indie)
    Caught in the Act! (Gonz), the Path (Vaughan Hawthorne), Human Feel
    (Human Feel) Jumpin' In The Future (Gunther Schuller), Making Lunch
    (Ken Schaphorst Big Band)
    
    OUTSTANDING JAZZ VOCALIST
    Wanetta Jackson, Semenya McCord, Rebecca Parris, Olga Roman,
    Carol Sloane
    
    OUTSTANDING LATIN ACT
    Ache, Mill Bermejo Quartet Nuevo, El Eco, Flor do Cana, Humano
    
    OUTSTANDING FOLK ACT
    Bob Franke, Patty Larkin, Bill Morrissey, Chris Smither, Cheryl Wheeler
    
    OUTSTANDING FOLK ALBUM
    Ed's Day (Ed's Redeeming Qualities), Brief Histories (Bob Franke),
    Detours (Eric Kilburn, Standing Eight (Bill Morrissey) Trust In
    Me (Barry/Holly Tashian)
    
    OUTSTANDING COUNTRY ACT
    Angel Train, Bloodhounds, Sleepy LaBeef, John Lincoln Wright,
    Yankee Jack & Co.
    
    OUTSTANDING IRISH CELTIC ACT
    Seamus Connolly, Johnny Cunningham, Robbie O'Connell, Pendragon,
    Perfect Strangers, We Saw The Wolf
    
    OUTSTANDING BLUES ACT
    Big Blue Meanies, Boston Bakes Blues, Shirley Lewis Experience,
    Sugar Ray & The Blue Tones, Duke Robillard & the Pleasure Kings
    
    OUTSTANDING WORLD MUSIC ACT
    Boogaloo Swamis, Doah, Fortaleza, Ibrahima's World Beat, Mozamba
    
    OUTSTANDING PRODUCER
    Phil Greene, Ross Humphrey, Paul Kolderie, Maurice Starr,
    Larry Woo/Gordon Worthy
    
    OUTSTANDING SONGS/SONGWRITER (major label)
    Freedon Now (Tracy Chapman), Move With Me Sister (D, Zanes, T, Lloyd)
    Monkey Gone To Heaven (B. Francis), Hangin' Tough (M. Starr)
    Janey's Got a Gun (S. Tyler, T. Hamilton)
    
    OUTSTANDING SONG/SONGWRITER (indie label)
    Hire A Bird (P. Moore), Who Said Love Would Be Easy (A. Sherman)
    89� (P. Newbery, M.Verzosa), Indian Sunrise (T,.Hambridge, B.
    Stanton), Handsome Molly (B. Morrissey)
    
    OUTSTANDING VIDEO (major label)
    Janie's got a Gun (Aerosmith), Every Little Step (Bobby Brown)
    Slip Away (Pat Metheny Group), Hangin' Tough (NKOTB), Love Letter
    (Bonnie Raitt)
    
    OUTSTANDING VIDEO (indie)
    Standing In The Fire (The Breakdown), Just Like Heaven (Dinosaur Jr.)
    When Will You Come Home (Galaxie 500), Luka (Lemonheads)
    89� (Walkers)
    
    There they are.....have at it!  (I'm going to rest my fingers!!)
    
    Ralph
    
    

    
    Thanks Ralph..your a pal!!!!!
    
    NKOTB...Heavy metal/hard rock!!  I was with ya on that one. 8^)
    
    KID CRASH.  puke, uck, bleck gross someone has no musical sense!!
    I'm better than they are and I can't sit.   They must have good
    managment cause they sure don't have any talent.  
    
    Wonder why Farrenheit doesn't show up anywhere.  The are a popular
    Boston band.  hmmmmmmmmmmmm
    
    I'll have to read the list again and see if I have more comments.
    
    Renee

    
    Oops..this is I can't sing.  not sit!!!  silly me.

    
    
    Yes, WARGASM has been nominated AGAIN!!!  Stuff like that get's me
    really psyched!!  I only hope they win this year.  Does anyone know if
    there is any way the public can vote on this thing or if it's purely a
    committee thing.  If I remember correctly last year you could send in a
    card or something.  Can anyone elaborate?? - KIm

    
    The public can vote.  I think the deadline is fairly soon.  Ballots
    can be picked up at any Strawberries or at least that's what I heard
    on the radio.
    
    Renee

    
    
    	FWIW, Bullet LaVolta won the metal category.  They rule... but 
    they're not metal... just ask them.
        
    
    Paul

    
    
    	The Globe has a listing of all the nominees for this year's
    awards.
    
    	In the metal category it's... Maelstrom, Meliah Rage, Seka,
    Slaughtershack, and Wargasm.
    
    
    Paul

    The nominees were on USENET this morning, but I didn't bother to post
    them once I saw NKOTB listed ;-)
    
    Mike

    Thank you!

    The July issue of GUITAR had their annual reader's choice awards for
    best Music Dealers, Clubs, and Radio Stations.  I'll enter some that
    applies to the majority here, but if you're interested in another area
    (state, city, and even country) let me now.  I'm surprised that there
    aren't any Z-Rock stations on here (that I know of).
    
    Top 10 Music Dealers
    --------------------
    East:                            West:
    1. Sam Ash NY                    1. Guitar Center Hollywood
    2.  "   "  NJ                    2. Guitar Showcase, San Jose
    3.  "   "  Huntington NY         3. Guitar Center, Santa Ana
    4. Daddy's, Boston               4. American Music, Seattle
    5. East Coast Music Mall CT      5. Apple Music, Portland
    6. Sam Ash, White Plains         6. Al DePauli's Music Center, Lost Wages
    7. House of Guitars, Rochester   7. Mahoney's Drum & Music, Lost Wages
    8. Brian's Guitars, CT           8. Sound Warehouse, Humble, TX
    9. Manny's, NY                   9. Driver Music, Tulsa
    10. E.U. Wurlitzer, Boston       10. Gelb Music, Redwood City, CA
    
    Top 10 Clubs
    ------------
    East:                            West:
    1. The Ritz, NY                  1. The Roxy, Hollywood
    2. Toad's Place, New Haven       2. The Whiskey Au Go-Go, West Hollywood
    3. L'Amour, Brooklyn             3. The Stone, San Francisco
    4. The Channel, Boston           4. The Bacchannal, San Diego
    5. Saratoga Winners, Latham NY   5. Starry Night, Portland
    6. Studio One, Newark            6. Club Rock, Lost Wages
    7. Sundance, Bay Shore NY        7. Mason Jar, PHOENIX ;-)
    8. The Chance, Poughkeepsie      8. Parker's, Seattle
    9. Graffitti Lounge, Pittsburgh  9. The Omni, Oakland
    10. The Paradise, Boston         10. Sneakers, San Antonio
    
    Top 10 Radio Stations
    ---------------------
    East:                            West:
    1. WSOU 98.5 S. Orange, NJ       1. KNAC 105.5 Long Beach, CA (I agree!)
    2. WNEW 102.7 NY                 2. KTXQ 102.1 Dallas
    3. WAAF 107.3 Worcester          3. KLOS 95.5 LA
    4. WMMR 93.3 Philly              4. KISW 99.9 Seattle
    5. WDVE 102.5 Pittsburgh         5. KQLZ 100.3 LA
    6. WXRK 92.3 NY                  6. KATT 100.5 Oklahoma City
    7. WZRC 1480AM NY                7. KRQR 97.3 San Francisco
    8. WYSP 94.1 Bala Cynwyd, PA     8. KUPD 97.9 PHOENIX (your concert station)
    9. WBCN 104.1 Boston             9. KOMP 92.3 Lost Wages
    10. WPLR 99.1 New Haven          10. Kome 98.5 San Jose

    England
    -------
    Club - Marquee Club, London
    Dealer - Chandler Guitars, Kew, Richmond, Surrey
    Radio - Radio 1 (Friday Rockshow)
    
    Netherlands
    -----------
    Club - Paradiso, Amsterdam
    Dealer - Kees Dee, Amersfoort
    Radio - Vara-Radio

> 7. Mahoney's Drum & Music, Lost Wages
    
    Are those people *absolutely* stupid or WHAT???
    
    gh (who lived in LV for years and went back to Mahoneys when he
        visited at Christmas time, to find them *just* as rude and money
        grubbing as when he lived there from '77-'86)

    Paradiso Amsterdam sux!  De Paard, Den Haag and Tivoli, Utrecht are
    better for atmosphere, even though they are smaller.
    
    
    
    GAZ

    Arizona                                   Massachusetts
    -------                                   -------------
    Club: Mason Jar - Phoenix                 Channel - Boston
                                              Paradise - Boston
    Dealer: Bizarre Guitar - Phoenix          Daddy's - Boston
    Radio:  KUPD 97.9 - Phoenix               WAAF 107.3 - Worcester
    
    Colorado                                  New Hampshire
    --------                                  -------------
    Club: Bangles - Denver                    Classics - Manchester
    Dealer: Prosound - Denver                 Daddy's - Salem
    Radio: KBPI 105.9 - Denver                WGIR 101.1 - Manchester
    
    Nevada
    ------
    Club: Club Rock - Loss Wages
    Dealer: Al DePauli's & Mahoney's - Vegas
    Radio: KOMP 92.3 - Vegas

    re/last
    
    
    istn classics closed.......
    
    
    		wendy o'
    

>    Colorado                     
>    --------             
>    Dealer: Prosound - Denver          

    These people *are* completely stupid...
    
    gh

    Greg-
         What's wrong with PROSOUND?
    
    
                   Where do you shop???
    
                          Frizkid
    

    Duuuuuude....
    
    Let's talk offline.
    
    I shop at Rice Music.  Great prices, no BS.
    
    gh

      Well?
    
     Send me mail!!!!
    
                   Frizkid
    

Rice Rules...

Walter is a GREAT guy !

jc

       Rice is alot better but there's not that much hype about it!
    
        That's why ya get better deals there....8*).
    
    
          Walter is probably the most down to earth guy(salesman) I've
    ever met!
    
                   The only reason Rice didn't win is:
    
                       The don't have neon lights in their store!!
    
    
                           Frizkid
    

    No neon?
    
    I guess I don't need a poseur music store.
    
    ;^)
    
    gh

    
       SHUD-UP!!!!!!GREG YOU *NEED A POSER STORE!
    
                FRIZKID
    

    Gotta hide my playing somehow...
    
    gh

     Gimme a break................YOU *ARE* the guitar hero and GOD of the
    CENTURY! 
    
                        Frizkid
    

>                 -< You need positive imput is what you need! >-
    
    No, a *band* is what I need.
    
    gh (who sez all the positive input on earth don't change the playing
        situation)

    No, What you need is some lessons boy!
           Remember Greg..........Life is what you make it!
    The same applies for playing.
    A *band* isn't going to make you playing any better(Well maybe a
    little) than it is now!
    
                         Frizkid
    

>    No, What you need is some lessons boy!

    I took lessons for a long time and I've learned a lot more, a lot more
    quickly, from playing in bands then I ever learned from the lessons. 
    Not that I'm devaluing them at all, but I don't really want lessons
    right now, I want to *play*.  Knowledge without application of it
    requires a special type of motivation to want to learn and I don't have
    that right now.  Maybe I'll get that again, but that's not it right
    now.  There's nothing like the motivation of a band to keep me
    practicing a lot and working on new stuff consistently.

>           Remember Greg..........Life is what you make it!

    Oh, I know I know...  You know me, bad attitude...

>    The same applies for playing.

    No, I disagree somewhat with this point.  You can control (to some
    degree) how you think and feel and your direction in life, but a band
    involves other people and because they are in a position to determine
    how things associated with the band affect you, they have as much
    control over YOUR destiny (in the band) as you do.  There are too many
    coincidental and environmental issues involved with playing in a band
    to be able to say that you have control over your destiny in that
    situation.

>    A *band* isn't going to make you playing any better(Well maybe a
>    little) than it is now!

    Not directly, but it does directly challenge you to play your best and
    to work hard on learning the things you need to learn to do the
    material the band is doing.  I don't do a good job of motivating
    myself, and a band provides the incentive I need to get my butt in
    gear.

    gh

      Let's take this off line!!!
    
                          Frizkid
    

    
    Yo, Friz and Greg:
    
    Positive outlook on life is a good start for having a positive 
    outlook on everything else.  And one should not let other's progress
    (or lack of) get to their own playing.  I play because I simply 
    enjoy playing the instrument whether it's in my room or in a gig.
    
    It's just all matter of attitude.  You can go home and sell 
    everything you have because you don't think you're as good as a wiz 
    kid, but what will that accomplish?  But if that makes you happy, 
    then why not?  It would make me a lot happier if I was to go home 
    and shred my fingers off to get a little better than I was.
    What comes around goes around.  One of these days, I might even 
    impress someone else in the same manner as many has done to me.
    
    A band is a good motivator for learning, but lessons are just as
    important.  Can't dis-count one or the other.  Just as important in 
    choosing a good teacher, one should choose bandmembers just as
    carefully.  Good ones in either of the category are very hard to come
    by.  Besides, if you're not in a band, that's perfect time to go off
    and sharpen up on other hobbies.
    
    Just because I'm not in a band, that doesn't mean I won't play. 
    Sometimes being in a band can be restrictive as far as the types of 
    material I get to play.  Instead of sitting around sulking, I tried 
    to get off my butt and as a result, last couple of months have been 
    very productive for me.
    
    Life is an attitude.
    
    Rock on!
    
    J.

    
    
    You guyz should move this to mutterings..
    
    

    
    	Sorry to interrpt by getting a bit back to the topic :)
    
    	As I said some where else today I missed the early morning Beverly
    	Hillbilies so I found myself watching "First Edition" or whatever
    	one of the morning Channel 4 news shows is called and saw a bit of
    	this years nominees, the only ones I recall our Aerosmith and
    	Tribe (yea, that's right Greg).  
    
    	- Jim

    
    	I love "Joyride" by The Tribe ... how's the rest of the album?
    
    							GTI

    What?
    No Honorable Mention to"Left Nut"?
    
              Crazy_Bummed_Al

    
    	What's that cover they (Left Nut (not UK's left Nut) do?  I like it. 
    	(I think!)
    
    	RE: Tribe / "Joyride" I like the rest of their Abort release but I 
    	liked their Here At the Home a bit better, it captured their live
    	sound better without sounding too pollished at all.  Abort contained
    	a few new songs but most of it;s re-recordings from H.A.T.H.
    
    	I'm glad to see Seka, Bosstones, etc. in there....
    	
    	- Jim

    
    
    	Here's some more info.  Sorry, but I'm too lazy to type in all
    pertaining categories/nominees.
    
    
       	Outstanding local hard rock/heavy metal - Eye for an Eye
    						  Flesh
    						  Maelstrom
    						  Seka
    						  Slapshot	
    					
   	Others up for awards... Aerosmith, Extreme, Pixies, The Neighborhoods, 
    Bullet LaVolta, M. M. Bosstones, Seven League Boots...
    
    	Are Left Nut still around?   I haven't heard anything from them
    in awhile.
    
    
    Paul
    
    

    
    
    	Sum uv da winnahs...
    
    	Rock band - Aerosmith
    	Rock album - "Abort"/Tribe
        Rock single - "Hole Hearted"/Extreme
    	Debut rock album - "The Neighborhoods"/The Neighborhoods
    	Pop single - "More Than Words"/Extreme
    	Song/songwriter - "More Than Words"/Cherone & Bettencourt
    	Local rock band - Mighty Mighty Bosstones
    	New local rock band - Cliffs of Dooneen
    	Hard rock/metal band - Seka
    	Rock album (indie) - "Devil's Night Out"/M. M. Bosstones
    	Debut rock album (indie) - "The Dog Went East and God Went West"/
    				   Cliffs of Dooneen	
    	Rock single (indie) - "Where'd You Go?"/M. M. Bosstones
    	Video - "Sweet Emotion"/Aerosmith
    	Instrumentalist - Nuno Bettencourt
    	
    
    Paul

    Buckz obnoxious BMA review:
    
    	Rock band - Aerosmith  AGREE
    	Rock album - "Abort"/Tribe  AGREE
        Rock single - "Hole Hearted"/Extreme  AGREE
    	Debut rock album - "The Neighborhoods"/The Neighborhoods  DISAGREE
    	Pop single - "More Than Words"/Extreme  DISAGREE
    	Song/songwriter - "More Than Words"/Cherone & Bettencourt  DISAGREE
    	Local rock band - Mighty Mighty Bosstones  AGREE
    	New local rock band - Cliffs of Dooneen  N/A
    	Hard rock/metal band - Seka  AGREE
    	Rock album (indie) - "Devil's Night Out"/M. M. Bosstones  N/A
    	Debut rock album (indie) - "The Dog Went East and God Went West"/
    				   Cliffs of Dooneen  N/A	
    	Rock single (indie) - "Where'd You Go?"/M. M. Bosstones  N/A
    	Video - "Sweet Emotion"/Aerosmith  AGREE
    	Instrumentalist - Nuno Bettencourt  DISAGREE
    
                                                    

Hey Buck,

Marky Mark won something

    What, idiot of the year?

    
    	I heard he walked into the podium to accept one of his
    	awards and then when he won again, he exited on the
    	wrong side of the stage.....
    
    

    
    
    	Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch won pop album, R&B single, debut
    R&B album, and male vocalist.
    
    
    
    	Jes' kidding on the male vocalist. 8^)
    
    
    Paul

>Marky Mark won something
    
    DISAGREE
    

    But I thought he won YOUR heart?
    
         Frizkid
    

    Marky Mark *broke* Glh's heart!!

    He's SCUM!  Man, like he dropped his pants and showed EVERYONE!
    
    And I thought I was special!
    
    gh