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| 458.1 | YUP! I HEARD OF THEM!! | COMPLX::WILLIAMS | | Thu Feb 02 1989 11:16 | 14 |
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Ya, I'm from the Binghamton/Endicott area (Union Center if anyone
knows of where I'm talking about) and went to college at RPI
(Troy area - armpit of New York). I've heard of Masters of Reality
several times but never had the opportunity to catch their show.
Everybody I talked to said they were pretty awesome and always told
me to make an effort to see them. Apparently (and obviously from
their group name) they tend to get their influence from Black Sabbath.
Which right there tells me they've at least got some brains when
it comes to REAL heavy metal!
Do you know the members names? Wondering if I know any of them.
Hammer.
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| 458.2 | ? | CSC32::G_HOUSE | The world needs guts | Thu Feb 02 1989 11:30 | 3 |
| So, this album is out now?
gh
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| 458.3 | "Take a ride aboard the Ghost Train" | AYNRND::REILLY | Tyranny and Mutation | Thu Feb 02 1989 13:03 | 42 |
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� Apparently (and obviously from
� their group name) they tend to get their influence from Black Sabbath.
� Which right there tells me they've at least got some brains when
� it comes to REAL heavy metal!
Well, yes, sort of. They do owe something to Black Sabbath (and
to old Pink Floyd and others) but really MOR is very unique. This
doesn't show so much on their album but it really did in their shows.
One thing I find very odd is the presence of a southern rock tinge
in a few of the tunes on the album. Like ZZ Top on acid.
� Do you know the members names? Wondering if I know any of them.
Chris Goss - Lead vocals (and has recently elarned geetar)
Tim Harrington - Lead guitar
Mr. Owl - keyboards
Googe - bass
Vinnie Ludovico - drums
When I used to see them, they were a 4-member band (no Googe or
Vinnie) with Mr. Owl and another guy (forgot his name) on keyboards
(that's right TWO keyboards) and no drums (drum machine). He is a
typical pounding type drummer (which I hate - I like John Densmore
[Doors] type drummers), and it reminds me of a lot of the heavy metal
"pretender" bands out there today.
Now before you say "NO WAY," believe me this worked! In fact, I
think the real drums take away from their sound. I usually hate
*anything* electronic, but these guys actually made this combo
into an awesome "wall of sound."
� Everybody I talked to said they were pretty awesome
They were. I really hope they haven't changed their stage shows.
They were known in Syracuse as THE Halloween band. Chris used to
go on these GREAT between-song tirades, and I'll always remember
their Halloween '84 show - incredible!
Yes, the album is out (at Tower Records).
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.4 | More on the dominate metal band of 1989..... | AYNRND::REILLY | Get outta here, you hockey puck! | Mon Feb 13 1989 15:57 | 9 |
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The band takes another step toward national recognition. WAAF actually
played their tune on the radio! The reactions, so far, seem to fall
in line with what I've been thinking. Black Sabbath/Cream-ish kind of
sound.
Get ready, world! Here come MOR!
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.5 | Want to hear a different style ? | EMASS::APOSTO | For All Those Who Dare | Tue Feb 14 1989 10:58 | 24 |
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RE: SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
I bought the Masters of Reality album this past weekend, because
I was curious after hearing you give them the five-star treatment.
I like the album/band very much, they have a cool style. The lead
vocals are clear, and the music is rock-blues at times and more
metal at others.
A few of the tunes remind me of the Doors, like "Magical Spell"
and "Candy Girl". In that light, I can see why they are probably
great to see live, their music seems to lend itself towards good
rock theater.
Beware HM'ers -- Masters of Reality is not speed metal, nor strictly
Heavy_Metal. They do crank it at times, but I think their style
is more akin to Cream and the Doors. I do recommend the album.
I'd really like to see these guys live, I'll be on the look-out
for an appearance locally, eh SEAN ??
Night_Prowler
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| 458.6 | Wonder how much my MOR bootlegs will be worth? | AYNRND::REILLY | Get outta here, you hockey puck! | Tue Feb 14 1989 12:38 | 44 |
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re. Night_Prowler
� I like the album/band very much, they have a cool style. The lead
� vocals are clear, and the music is rock-blues at times and more
� metal at others.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. 1) because I'd hate to have
people think they wasted their money on *my* recommendation and
2) because I really do think they are good.
� Beware HM'ers -- Masters of Reality is not speed metal, nor strictly
� Heavy_Metal. They do crank it at times, but I think their style
� is more akin to Cream and the Doors. I do recommend the album.
Good point. I should have mentioned this, but I guess I got carried
away! I forget that metal nowadays is a lot different than it
used to be. I'll admit I like the older HM and this band is
*definitely* a throwback.
But they've got a certain something that makes them very new, too.
Even their slower tunes seem so *intense* to me. Good comaparison to
other groups. I always used to say mix Black Sabbath, the Syd Barrett
version of Pink Floyd, the Doors, and throw in a good dose of
electronics and you'd have MOR. Well, the electronics are gone now, but
everybody changes........ I find it intersting that everybody seems
to make the Cream comparison - I guess I don't know Cream well enough.
� I'd really like to see these guys live, I'll be on the look-out
� for an appearance locally, eh SEAN ??
Chris Goss (singer) says they probably won't even be starting a
tour until June. I get the Syracuse equivalent of the Phoenix
(I subscribe to it just to get MOR info!) and they mentioned an
album release party in North Syracuse that I'm gonna try to get
to. I'll see what they say about getting out on the road. This
band used to have and intense act even when they were a small
outfit, so I'm hoping for big things.
The guitarist is a kick. He looks real freaky (long hair now,
but used to be very punk and spiky), but he's the nicest, shyest
guy. And a good axe player.
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.7 | Just in case anyone cares..... | AYNRND::REILLY | Get outta here, you hockey puck! | Fri Mar 24 1989 09:25 | 32 |
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Hi! Me again with more news. Sorry to be a read-only noter around
here for the most part, but I must admit, I'm not as up on the new
stuff as I should be. When Sweet regroups or B.�.C. puts out a
new one, I'll be more active. Anyway.......
I seems that MTV doesn't feel like playing MOR's video for "The
Blue Garden," because they can't find a place on the rotation for
it. It was produced by the same guy who made a lot of Def Leppard
videos and is fairly psychedelic.
Their next video will be for "The Candy Song" (wouldn't be my choice),
so I suppose that's their next attempt at a single. KNAC out of
Los Angeles appears to be the biggest station heavily promoting
them. :^(
They've started a small tour, playing with Skid Row in Long Island
and Hawkwind (talk about blasts from the past) in, uhh, where was
it NYC or Burlington, VT. I can't remember (geez, I always get those
two cities confused :^) ).
Keyboard player Mr. Owl continues to be in/not_in the band, I guess
the record company wants him out (opt for the "BIG GUITAR" sound),
but the fans love him, so........
Album release party in Syracuse was *LOUD*, and the bar ran out
of "real" beer halfway through the set.
I suppose I'll keep posting even if nobody hears of this band for
a while, cause I still think they'll "go big."
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.8 | Keep up the good work! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Caught in a mosh | Fri Mar 24 1989 15:38 | 7 |
| re: .7
Please keep posting information on the band, even if it doesn't
generate lots of discussion. I'm sure someone will see this album
and want to read about them sometime.
gh (you've almost convinced me to buy it!)
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| 458.9 | | FROST::MARRIER | Living in the Past | Wed Mar 29 1989 02:29 | 8 |
| Masters of Reality were here in Burlington tonight..
Unfortunately, I could not take any time off to go see them..
I really like what I've heard of them so far, they are a
throwback, it seems, and that is fine with me, as I'm not
into the newer HM as much... I think I'll look for the
album!!
Rick
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| 458.10 | Album Review in "Musician" magazine | AYNRND::REILLY | Get outta here, you hockey puck! | Wed Apr 05 1989 08:18 | 25 |
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[ Excerpted without permission from "Musician" April, 1989 ]
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ROCK Short Takes
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MASTERS OF REALITY
Masters of Reality (Def America)
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TIME WAS WHEN HEAVY ROCKERS KNEW
how to get down and dirty without losing
sight of the tune, and *Masters of Reality*
recaptures that sound better than any
album since "Mountain Climbing." Sure,
the Masters like their riffs dark and
drony, but they also have a taste for acid
blues and an almost shocking fondness
for melody (plus a signer who can make
the most of it). Forget the Cult - this
band is for real.
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SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.11 | add in!! | WMOIS::BASTARACHE | | Fri Apr 21 1989 12:49 | 22 |
| Scribed without permission
Despite the name,Master of reality do not sound like Black Sabbath
whatsoever.Mystical,yes.Sinister,no.
In existence since 81 M.o R.have certainly come a long way from
their days as an experimental electronic band with a drum machine
and singer Chris Goss using keyboards. Goss now plays guitar along
with Tim H.a man known only as Googe throbs on bass,and Vinnie Ludovico
drums.Their roots might still be implanted in blues and psychedelia,but
they're definitely not a bunch of boring old hippies.
This bodacious slice of aural pie sounds akin to Johnny Winter meeting
Cream.From the opening strains of the instrumental entitled Theme
for the Scientist of the Invisible.Then Domino comes in and kicks
@ss before an intense trip through The Blue Garden.Getting High
boogies,as does The Candy Song.Magical Spell strolls along with
a ripe Kinks/Doors good time lilt thats likened to Eric Clapton
meets Ray Davies on the way to Jim Morrison's!
Master of Reality effortlessly exhibit a gamut of moods.
Barney
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| 458.12 | still pluggin' | AYNRND::REILLY | Instant Pink Floyd! Just add Waters | Fri May 12 1989 15:18 | 25 |
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Well, the Masters are #1...........
In the Netherlands!
On the Independent chart. :^) Oh well, it's something.
Other news: Apparantly their first video is a DOG. Made by Jean
Pellerin (noted for directing several Def Leppard videos), it appears
he decided MOR wasn't worth much effort, although "The Blue Garden"
is a real ominous little ditty.
Next single, as stated previously, "Th Candy Song." One review
I've read: "AC/DC meets the Beatles." I don't particularly like
this song; I'd rather see
"Domino"
"John Brown"
"The Eyes of Texas"
released, but what do I know?
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.13 | not *great*, but pretty good, IMO | HAZEL::STARR | What do ya do when you get lonely...? | Tue Jun 20 1989 14:58 | 19 |
| I picked up the Masters of Reality cassette a coupla weeks ago, and finally
got a chance to listen to it a little bit. I've only heard side one, and
only once, so this is just an off-the-cuff opinion.
Bascially, I like it. I don't *love* it, but I do like it a lot. They sound
sorta raw, but at the same time the album has a real neat/precise sound to it.
I suppose that is Rick Rubin's producing that does that. I imagine that when
they play live, there is a lot more 'noise' that helps out the overall
'atmosphere' of the band. The record is a little bit too dry for me.
Other than that, I do really like it. It reminds me a lot of early Blue Oyster
Cult (no wonder why you like them, Sean!). Also, I can hear lots of Cream
influence in them, although not so much bluesy as in Cream's experimental
stage.
I have to listen to the whole thing for a few times more to tell whether it
will grow on me, or whether I'll get bored......
cat
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| 458.14 | still pluggin' | AYNRND::REILLY | Instant Pink Floyd! Just add Waters | Fri Jul 07 1989 08:32 | 15 |
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Despite good reviews and the excitement about having a mojor-label
group, hoopla surrounding the band is dwindling back in Syracuse.
The bands first video was supposedly a joke (I haven't seen it).
MOR was forced to drop Mr. Owl - good friend, keyboardist, and fan
favorite. Steve Latham, the band's friend and manager has met the
same fate. Score another one for record companies. And where's
that "tour?"
Good side. The record is still being played in L.A. and Holland.
"The Candy Song" will be a CD single (I don't like the song, but
if it gets them some notice, I'll take it).
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.15 | | AYNRND::REILLY | You say it like it's a bad thing | Fri Aug 18 1989 09:20 | 21 |
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Britain's New Musical Express reported in their July 15 issue that
the Masters have moved from Syracuse to LA. Actually, only Chris Goss
(singer) has - he got married.
Things don't sound so hot. Chris Goss: "Our lives haven't changed.
They still suck. There's no money to be made unless you sell a
half-a-million LP's. You're broke. You beg the record company
for money. A couple of weeks later, you're broke again. Everyone
in the band has been living the lifestyle of a musician, which means
unpaid bills, getting thrown out of appartments for unpaid rents....
it's become a big monster."
Oh well, while he's wallowing in despair, Spin magazine gave the
band a good review (I haven't read a bad one yet).
MOR played a gig at the 1500-seat club The Palace in LA and will
probably do one more Syracuse date before a European swing (they
seem to like them over there).
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.16 | | AYNRND::REILLY | Lawdy mama! | Tue Oct 24 1989 23:29 | 13 |
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Chris Goss (singer) left the band. He just took off during their
tour in Chicago. The record company tried to smooth it out, but
it looks like the band is over before they even really started.
Don't know much about it, just read a lot of quotes by the rest
of the band about how ripped they were (can't blame them).
Geez, I wait 6 years for their first album, and they break up after
they make it. My friend who sawe them in L.A. just got telling
me how they did a lot of old (non-album) stuff in concert too.
Grrrrrr.
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS_Seriously_bummin'
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| 458.17 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Licking for luv in all the right places. | Wed Oct 25 1989 09:58 | 8 |
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RE: Sean
Will the album be released, or are they just gonna
trash it?
GTI
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| 458.18 | | AYNRND::REILLY | Lawdy mama! | Wed Oct 25 1989 22:41 | 4 |
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Album's been released.
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.19 | Lost in time... | CSC32::G_HOUSE | MR. Mush-for-brains to YOU | Fri Oct 27 1989 20:53 | 2 |
| Shawn, that albums been out for quite awhile...
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| 458.20 | | IOSG::PERKINS | How to be a complete & utter b*stard! | Wed Nov 01 1989 07:49 | 8 |
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MOR mainman Chris Goss has walked out in the middle of their US tour!
He disappeared after a show in Chicago, leaving a letter saying that
the band no longer existed. Dispite numerous atempts to contact him to
clarify the situation, Goss has remained AWOL.
Flip
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| 458.21 | TH now a Bogeyman | AYNRND::REILLY | Chowmp! | Tue Dec 05 1989 19:00 | 10 |
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Guitarist Tim Harrington has formed a new trio with MOR drummer
Vinnie Ludovico and former 805 (big Syracuse local band) bassist
Creamo Liss called The Bogeymen.
TH: "It's a hard rock thing. The sound is a little blacker than
the Masters. So far, everyone who's heard us has been pleasantly
surprised by the sound."
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.22 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Don't drink the (toilet) water. | Wed Jan 17 1990 15:01 | 17 |
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Well, I bought the CD Friday night ... and I've listened
to it about 6 times so far. These guys are great!!
I wouldn't really call them H_M ... more like "progress-
ive, with a H_M edge".
The guitar is very good in most of their stuff, and I
like the vocals. He's got a good voice.
The intro, and then "Domino" kicks some serious butt ...
and "Eyes of Texas" and "Keep Walkin'" (or whatever it's
called) aren't far behind. "Kill the King" is well done,
with the effects on the vocals.
GTI
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| 458.23 | MOR news, anyone?... | BEATLE::REILLY | Don't have a cow, man | Mon Jul 02 1990 11:50 | 13 |
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Delicious Vinyl, a new label, liked this band so much they are
re-releasing the CD, even though the band has split up. Their
opinion is that the album was not marketed well by Def Jam and
is better than sales showed. They'll be putting an extra track
on the CD, too.
As far as the band members go, guitarist Tim Harrington and drummer
Vinnie Ludovico have a CD coming out with their new band, The
B�geymen. Vocalist Chris Goss and bass player Googe are collaborating
on new CD, also. Guess it was an even split.
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.24 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Hemorrhoid from Hell | Thu Sep 13 1990 18:12 | 6 |
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Masters of Reality have added Ginger Baker [formerly of Cream]
as their new drummer.
GTI
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| 458.25 | Ginger's a strange dude! | BINKLY::MINARDI | Love is a vampire drunk on your blood | Thu Sep 13 1990 19:44 | 5 |
| GINGER BAKER?!?!?!
No way.
/Motorbreath... that's bizarre!!
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| 458.26 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Only 11mo till I can drive again! | Fri Sep 14 1990 00:04 | 2 |
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Ginger Baker?!? How old is that guy now anyway!?!? :')
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| 458.27 | | FRDON::GOLDBERG | | Fri Sep 14 1990 09:23 | 11 |
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Probably as old as Eric Clapton!
I think its excellent he's back in the scene now!
I read an article on Rolling Stone about Ginger and all the problems he
had with drugs for years and years and how now he was just hanging out
in his house..
F.
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| 458.29 | I'll have to check this out | DASXPS::SASCHROEDER | I'm hummin' happy... | Fri Sep 14 1990 20:14 | 2 |
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Ginger Baker, a phenominal drummer,IMO. Definitely one of my fav's.
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| 458.30 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I know trouble cuz I am | Mon Sep 17 1990 15:50 | 7 |
| I'm in Syracuse, NY where the Masters started out a few years
back. They have a club date coming up in a few weeks here and the
stations are really promoting the "with Ginger Baker on drums" thing.
My wife asked if Ginger was a woman. Geeez - that's what I get for
robbing the cradle!
-BooM-
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| 458.31 | | CSC32::B_TURNBAUGH | | Mon Sep 17 1990 16:44 | 4 |
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I saw an interview last night on MTV with Masters of Reality and
Ginger Baker. They were practicing in some little room. They sounded
OK but Ginger looked worse than my grandfather!!
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| 458.32 | gingers back.. | BUSY::LABOUNTY_FIS | I crave pizza no more.. | Mon Sep 17 1990 16:47 | 7 |
| re. last
I agree, he looks bad. When he was with Cream he looked
like baron von manchausen. I heard he lived on a olive farm in italy?
I think ginger should give it up..
Doug..
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| 458.33 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Sep 17 1990 16:55 | 4 |
| You don't think he should play music because he's old?
You think only 21 year old should play heavy metal?
Bullshit!
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| 458.34 | ex | BUSY::LABOUNTY_FIS | I crave pizza no more.. | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:06 | 7 |
| re.last
Watch the swears. No thats what I ment, He's been away
for a while. I think he should re-evaluate his options. You don't
see Eric Clapton doing Metallica rifs, Do you??
Doug..
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| 458.35 | | CSC32::B_TURNBAUGH | | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:07 | 4 |
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I'm really glad to see him out playing and being productive, rather
than staying in a room doing drugs for years at a time OUCH!!
As I said he was playing pretty good.
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| 458.36 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:10 | 3 |
| I don't see anything wrong with Clapton doing Metallica riffs.
I think it would be good for him, actually. He could probably do them
better than Metallica.
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| 458.37 | play de blues.. | BUSY::LABOUNTY_FIS | I crave pizza no more.. | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:11 | 7 |
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I amazed he could play in those days, He was so drugged out.
If he got back with eric clapton and did the blues with slow hand
I think it could work out..
Doug..
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| 458.38 | the bluesmaster.. | BUSY::LABOUNTY_FIS | I crave pizza no more.. | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:16 | 8 |
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I think Eric could teach HM guitarists a hole new thing. Eric
Is so musically smart, its unreal. Last night I watched a special
on him on VH1, And he explained how he did certain things with
a guitar..
Doug..
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| 458.39 | but who gives a **** about MHO? | ICS::BUCKLEY | Not a trace of us left... | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:23 | 1 |
| Eric Clapton is WAY lame IMHO.
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| 458.40 | | OBSESS::PERS_TEMP | | Mon Sep 17 1990 17:27 | 5 |
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RE: 39 - mine too!!
- Kim
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| 458.41 | | DASXPS::SASCHROEDER | I'm hummin' happy... | Mon Sep 17 1990 20:34 | 4 |
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re.39
Here! here!
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| 458.42 | sellin' beer | BINKLY::MINARDI | Love is a vampire drunk on your blood | Mon Sep 17 1990 20:51 | 8 |
| I'm with Buck.
WAY:
lame
overrated
boring
/Motorbreath..."God"... .HAH!!!
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| 458.43 | | FRDON::GOLDBERG | | Tue Sep 18 1990 10:41 | 6 |
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I'm sure Ginger could keep up with a Metallica riff. Just because he
looks crappy, doesn't mean he can't play anymore - see the DAFS note!
F.
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| 458.44 | | RAVEN1::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Tue Sep 18 1990 12:45 | 6 |
| Clapton playing anything faster than 1/4 notes is a joke.
Better licks than Metallica indeed.
Reality check here people !
jc (Who sez: Clapton had his day...20 years ago)
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| 458.45 | Rock Rock 'till you drop | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | Give a little | Tue Sep 18 1990 17:34 | 27 |
| <FLAME ON!!!>
I'm sorry, but I can't just let this discussion sit here, this is
something I really feel strongly about.
I can't believe people in here want to pidgon-hole poor Ginger to
playing old blues stuff because that's what he did in the past or
because he's old or looks bad or whatever. I thought people in here
had more of an open mind then that.
Crimany, I wanna be rockin' when *I* get old! If Ginger's got the
chops and the desire to do it, I say MORE POWER TO HIM! I don't watch
someone perform to get off on their physical beauty, but on the beauty
of the music.
Stereotyping S*CKS! It's discrimination and I don't like it one bit.
Let the guy play the music he wants to play. There is no such thing as
"old peoples music" or "young peoples music". As far as music goes,
it's how you feel in your heart!
<FLAME OFF>
I'm with Skip, it's good to see people like Ginger Baker actually doing
something with their lives again.
gh
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| 458.46 | Ginger still has the moves.. | BUSY::LABOUNTY_FIS | We are the children of concrete & steel.. | Tue Sep 18 1990 17:43 | 10 |
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Has ginger really changed? Is he still doing drugs? I saw a
special on cream and he looked bad towards the end of creams reign.
I heard cream broke up because jack bruce and ginger baker were always
fighting. If ginger gave up drugs, Good luck to him. I think he would
look better with the mustache again..
Doug..
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| 458.47 | How old is old? | CYNO::FERRIS | Defiance Incarnate | Wed Sep 19 1990 09:55 | 19 |
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Ginger Baker influenced my drumming when I was young like no
drummer ever has. I was in Jr. High when Cream was really strong
and having an older brother I really took to his style. For his
time and I repeat "for his time" there were no double bass drummers
that really used them for anything besids looks. He brought rock
drumming to a new light. He's still tops in my book.
I went to see him in Denver last year at a drum clinic. He was
very friendly and talked about his years of drug problems. He said
he was 56 years young last year so he's no spring chicken. He also
talked about his years of Olive farming in Italy while he was kicking
Heroin addiction. The guys been through alot and he can still tear up
a drum kit for his age. If you want to compare drummers his age look
at Charlie Watts, now thats a 50 year old drummer.
I think he's a great drummer and always will be to me. I talked with
him briefly when I got him to sign a copy of Wheels Of Fire for me.
Thumbs up to Ginger Baker!!!
mike
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| 458.48 | | CSC32::B_TURNBAUGH | | Wed Sep 19 1990 15:36 | 4 |
| I'm with Mike, Ginger was one of the first double bass drummers and
influnced quite a few of us!!!
Mike are you in Denver??
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| 458.49 | | BINKLY::MINARDI | Fist Banging Mania | Wed Sep 19 1990 20:10 | 2 |
| re.47
good story Mike!
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| 458.50 | Right here! | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | Give a little | Wed Sep 19 1990 22:19 | 9 |
| re: Skip
> Mike are you in Denver??
No, Mike's here in the Springs. He works down at CX01 (or is that part
of the building called CX02?), pretty close to the DCU office. You
guys should try and hook up sometime!
gh
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| 458.51 | In Colo Spgs | CYNO::FERRIS | Defiance Incarnate | Thu Sep 20 1990 09:38 | 11 |
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Yeah, I'm here in the Springs. I'm glad to see there are other
Ginger Baker fans out there! Like Greg says, I work at CXO1 on
the 1st floor.
I forgot to mention in my other entry that he also lived in
Africa for awhile on some kind of ranch. He said he has always
been intrested in African Percussion.
mike
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| 458.52 | | CSC32::H_SO | Hyundai insider: I drive a Chevy | Thu Sep 20 1990 18:43 | 6 |
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Geez, Mike where ya been all this time? What area/product do you
work???
SoHong who_used_to_work_in_CXO2_also
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| 458.53 | I draw pretty pictures on CAD | CYNO::FERRIS | Defiance Incarnate | Fri Sep 21 1990 09:52 | 7 |
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I work in the Mechanical Design group on the first floor at
CXO1. My office is by pole Q12. Like Greg said, I'm on the
same floor as the Credit Union, if you bank there swing by
some time and say hey!
mike
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| 458.54 | | MERLAN::DIFRUSCIA | I'M THE NRA | Thu Sep 27 1990 15:20 | 7 |
| Whats wrong with Ginger playing again! I don'y care if your
90, if you can still play or have the desire why not.
Eric Clapton can out do Metalica anytime!!!
Tony
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| 458.55 | Clapton is doG (craq) | ICS::BUCKLEY | There is a mirror on the beach... | Thu Sep 27 1990 15:23 | 3 |
| >Eric Clapton can out do Metalica anytime!!!
Oh please, get real!
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| 458.56 | | 38514::SLABOUNTY | Hemorrhoid from Hell | Thu Sep 27 1990 17:39 | 11 |
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This is the Metallica note, in the HEAVY_METAL conference.
There is no point in comparing Clapton [a blues guitarist]
to Metallica [a H_M band] ...
... because Clapton sux!! 8^)
GTI
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| 458.57 | | BINKLY::MINARDI | Fist Banging Mania | Thu Sep 27 1990 17:50 | 3 |
| re.56
BRAVO!!!
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| 458.58 | | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | Jump back!!! What's that sound? | Thu Sep 27 1990 18:25 | 5 |
| 1...2...3...
WHHHHHOOOOAAAAAAA SSSSSHHHHHAAAAWWWWNNNNNN!!!!!
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| 458.59 | nit | DASXPS::SASCHROEDER | I'm hummin' happy... | Thu Sep 27 1990 20:13 | 8 |
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re.56
No - this is the Master Of Reality note. However, you are correct,
Clapton does blow chow bigtime! (he's so - yaawwwnnnnnnnnnn - uh,
boring!)
As for Ginger Baker, I'm glad to hear his drums again.
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| 458.60 | Every band sucks, to somebody ... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Fri Sep 28 1990 04:00 | 9 |
| <FLAME ON>
Children, children. No, Eric Clapton can't bang his head, but it ain't
his job. A VAX can't plow a field, but does that mean a VAX sucks ?
Do you people still wet the bed at night ? All these discussions
about, "... *my* band is best, so *your* band must suck ..." get pretty
old folks.
<FLAME OFF>
Scary ...
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| 458.61 | Pass me some of the apple-orange. | RAVEN1::KROBINSON | | Fri Sep 28 1990 08:54 | 6 |
| I agree with Jerry. I do think that the Clapton-Metallic comparision
was, how can I say it, stupid. That may be a good word. I mean it's
like trying to compare apples to oranges. They're both round, sorta,
but they are two totally different fruits. Can you dig it.
The KER
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| 458.62 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | Toxic Mosh | Fri Sep 28 1990 09:28 | 4 |
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I third that opinion. 8-)
/prc
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| 458.63 | | FRDON::GOLDBERG | | Fri Sep 28 1990 10:06 | 6 |
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I fourth it. 8*)
And I'm not a Clapton fan..
F.
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| 458.64 | | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | Jump back!!! What's that sound? | Fri Sep 28 1990 11:29 | 1 |
| I think u guys is over reacting. Let me point you to a nice valium.
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| 458.65 | ;^) | RAVEN1::KROBINSON | | Fri Sep 28 1990 11:42 | 4 |
| Only if its blue.
The KER
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| 458.66 | | CSC32::H_SO | Hyundai insider: I drive a Chevy | Fri Sep 28 1990 17:10 | 5 |
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Hey, Scary! Like, who appointed you like heir to the Clapton thrown,
dude? 8*)
SESOB
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| 458.67 | I hate everybody's favorite band .... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Fri Sep 28 1990 17:33 | 7 |
| I wish ! But I'd rather have folks calling me Eric Clapton II, than,
say, <insert_name_of_your_fave_metal_guitar_hero_HERE!>. It's fine
wine vs. MD 20/20 ....
You kids go ahead and play ... just pick up your toys when you're done.
Scary .... 8^)
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| 458.68 | so there 8^P | ICS::BUCKLEY | There is a mirror on the beach... | Fri Sep 28 1990 18:01 | 1 |
| Whine whine whine Scary...he still sux!
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| 458.69 | | DASXPS::SASCHROEDER | I'm hummin' happy... | Fri Sep 28 1990 19:08 | 3 |
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I second that ;^PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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| 458.70 | | CSC32::H_SO | Hyundai insider: I drive a Chevy | Fri Sep 28 1990 22:58 | 4 |
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MD 20/20?! Eeeewwwwww!!!!
;^)
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| 458.71 | Now Children | CYNO::FERRIS | Defiance Incarnate | Mon Oct 01 1990 09:27 | 4 |
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OK, everyone to your rooms with no dinner and no TV. Enough already.
mike 8^)
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| 458.72 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Mon Oct 01 1990 10:25 | 6 |
| OK, I'll go .. but you better belive I'll have "Journeyman" cranking on
my diskman ... thankyou ! 8^)
Scary (who'll be switching it out frequently with the new Annihilator)
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| 458.73 | ............. | AYNRND::REILLY | Mass. fell and it can't get up! | Wed Oct 03 1990 12:32 | 36 |
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More on the tale of MOR:
According to most reports, the Masters had split into two factions
long before the split/regrouping. Tim Harrington and Vinnie Ludovico
were very serious about the musical aspects of the band, while Chris
Goss was interested in his ego and being famous (see addition of
Ginger Baker). Okay, that was partly my opinion. Side note: MOR's
new guitarist, Daneil Rey, used to play with Iggy Pop, and Delicious
Vinyl's release of "The Blue Garden" has and additional track on it.
I think Chris left the band in Chicago fully intending to regroup it
without Tim and Vinnie. But Chris and Tim *were* the Masters. MOR
without both Tim and Chris is like the Stones with only Kieth *or* Mick.
Fact is, Tim really started the band. The courts are currently
handling the rights/use/etc. of the name MOR, and Tim says he and his
newly-formed B�g�ym�n will not record (and they've had plenty of
offers) until the whole sordid issue gets straightened out.
Personally, I was a little disappointed in the rise to fame of MOR
for a few reasons already:
1) MOR used to be *much* darker, heavy, and sinister.
2) DEF Jam got rid of MOR's old manager Steve Latham
3) New producer Rick Rubin got rid of Mr. Owl and all synthesizers
(synths were a trademark of the old MOR).
4) Liked the old BeatBox backbone rather than the plodding chops
Vinnie played
So, in the end, although, I'll still listen to MOR, I think I'm going
have higher hopes for the B�g�ym�n. I like Chris's writing, but I
like Tim's playing. In general, I'm sad to see the whole thing turn out
this way, but if the world gets two good groups out of the whole thing, I
guess that's okay, too.
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 458.74 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I know trouble cuz I am | Wed Oct 03 1990 16:22 | 4 |
| Being in Syracuse, home of MOR, I can catch the Boogeymen at local
gigs any chance I get. They have a decent following here and seem
to be getting tighter. Also Mr. Owl does his own show on off nights
and works in a local music store. More to come.....
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| 458.75 | | SUZY::GOLDBERG | | Fri Oct 19 1990 14:03 | 21 |
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Taken from RS w/o permission...
From "Random Notes"
It was a match made somewhere between rock and roll heaven and the
pages of a Ralph Lauren ad. When the metal gods in MASTERS OF REALITY
needed to anchor their rhythm section, they turned to the patriarch of
power drummers, GINGER BAKER, a polo buddy of the group's manager. "I
think the problem with the band is that they've never really had a
drummer, ever," says Baker, who is currently touring with the Masters.
"They've used all sorts of thrash-and-bash heavy-metal drummers."
Baker, who banged out his niche in music history over twenty years ago
with CREAM, sees no problem with the age gap between him and the rest
of the band members. "We get on quite well," he says. "We play cards.
But I don't really like being on the road. I'd rather be home with my
wife and my animals."
F.
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| 458.76 | Gotta luv 'em... | SOLVIT::FRICK | | Mon Feb 11 1991 13:00 | 9 |
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I bought the Masters Of Reality cd this past weekend. I have to say
that they have a very solid, basic rock sound to them that is very
appealing to me. Brings back the '70's style of rock. A little
slower, a little grittier and a little harder hitting. As earlier
stated, not every song is heavy, but still very good music.
-Tunes-
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| 458.77 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly DTN 293-5983 | Thu Dec 31 1992 15:09 | 12 |
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The Masters' new CD, titled "Sunrise on the Suffer Bus" I believe,
will be out in February. This is the new Masters of Reality, who
have now, somehow, according to the media, become "Ginger Baker's new
band."
Myself, I'm skeptical, since after listening to the B�g�ym�n, I think
Tim Harrington (guitarist on first CD) was the driving force here.
But I can't pass up anything to do with MOR, so I'll have to give Chris
Goss and that � Masters a shot.
- Sean
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| 458.78 | first tune a monster! | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983 | Sat Feb 13 1993 19:53 | 13 |
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So I'm driving down 495, and 'BCN starts crankin' this tune, drums
right out of Sweet's "Ballroom Blitz," riffs mixing in a little
Omar and the Howlers blues and Alvinn Lee boogie, and then... the
voice... unmistakable Chris Goss, the Monotone Wonder, this *had* to
be the new Master's CD!. Quick detour into Emerald Square, battle
the Shining Time Station crowds to Tape World, hunt up up "Sunrise
on the Sufferbus" ($16, but I can't wait for Noteworthy for this)
and my day is made. After a few listens, I'll post a review.
- Sean
- Sean
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| 458.79 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Fri Feb 16 1996 17:50 | 22 |
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Wow. 3 years since my last note on this topic. Well, as Monty
Python says, this topic "is not dead yet."
Tim Harrington, guitarist extraordinaire of Masters Of Reality
(first CD) and B�g�ym�n currently has two recording contracts.
One is a "Delicious Vinyl" CD due this summer called "Shinola."
But the important one is coming out just now on Triple XXX Records
(early Jane's addiction label)... "Master Frequency and His Deepness."
This record is *purportedly* (hopefully, please, please, please) a
throwback to the original Masters of Reality, which, if you read my
earlier notes, was a very different band than the one that made their
first national release. Back when I was seeing them in Syracuse, they
were a duo with a drum machine, then a trio with a drum machine. I
know, you say "that's not heavy metal" but it WAS! Major.
Anyway, I've got to go find this CD soon!
- Seanm��
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| 458.80 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Don't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448 | Mon Feb 19 1996 07:19 | 6 |
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Yup, and after 3 years we're STILL waiting for a review of their
last album. 8^)
Just kidding ... you know that I have it and don't like it. 8^)
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| 458.81 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Mon Feb 19 1996 07:34 | 5 |
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And I'm still waiting for the David Lynch movie that is supposed
to have the song "Ants in the Kitchen" from it on the soundtrack.
- Sean
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