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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Wed May 04 1988
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Number of topics:1238
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433.0. "Mass" by SCOMAN::LAMOTHE () Tue Jan 17 1989 12:09

    
         
                                MASS
    
         
     Hi,
    
       Has anyone out there heard of MASS. I have only one of there
    albums so far. The album is titled "NEW BIRTH" . They had one hit
    single from that album entitled "Do You Love Me". The album I think
    is great, except for the poor quality of the recording sound.
    
       I have not seen any other albums by them, does any one know if
    they do or not.
    
    
    
        sax
    
    
    
    
    
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433.1New BirthESOCTS::JENNISONBack To The CaveTue Jan 17 1989 12:4512
    Sax,
    
    	Yes, I have heard of MASS, I have the album- "New Birth"
        I think it is an excellent album. This band comes out of
    	Cape Cod I believe, they were at the Channel on Friday 
    	night. The song "Do You Love Me" was played quite a lot
    	on WAAF about three years ago. Where do you work in HLO ?
    
    
    	Rock-On
    	SueJ
    	
433.2Only OneESOCTS::JENNISONBack To The CaveTue Jan 17 1989 12:477
    
    
    
    		OOps, No thats the only album out from them.
    
    		SueJ_Who_Works_At_A_Record_Store
    
433.3Mass jumped on the religion bandwagonPARITY::STACIECold Blood is all you bleedTue Jan 17 1989 12:5115
    Mass is from Revere.  I really got into New Birth, it was a great
    album.  After it came out they sort of fizzled for a while and now
    they'er back and better than ever, so they say.
    
    They're on a new label, and their new album was produced by Michael
    Sweet of Stryper.  How coincidental that they all of a sudden "found
    God" when they started hanging out w/ Stryper.  IMO they "found
    a gimmick."  Or so.  Let's hope they get as rich as Stryper so they,
    too, can "bring glory to the name of God."  Of WHO?  Give me a break.
    Stryper and anyone else who jumps on that bandwagon irks me as much
    as the televangelists.  Who knows, I may be wrong, maybe they're
    sincere.  
    
    Dilly Bar
433.4so-so in my bookHAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Tue Jan 17 1989 13:0211
>    		OOps, No thats the only album out from them.
    
Well, actually, I have a copy of thier first EP that came out on a
small Boston label a few years ago. 

Mass is a decent band, but nothing special, IMO. The guitarist goes
way over the top too often for my tastes, and relies more on speed
than taste and feel. But they did come up with at least one classic
in "Do You Love Me", so you never know what the future holds....

cat
433.5Stryper II?ESOCTS::JENNISONBack To The CaveTue Jan 17 1989 13:1712
    Re: Starr
    
    	What is the name of the ep? Wasnt this "New Birth" ?
    	
    Re: Stacie
    
    	What is the name of the new one ? If it has been released,
    	when? I havent seen it...I believe it-Finding the Faith.
    	If you cant make money one way-go another way. Your sure
    	to strike it RICH !
    
    	SueJ
433.6BTW - what store didja work at?HAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Tue Jan 17 1989 13:457
>    	What is the name of the ep? Wasnt this "New Birth" ?
    	
Nawww. It was just titled 'Mass', if I remember correctly. I have both
this and their LP at home - I'll check tonight and list the songs
that are on the EP (I think they were different than what was on the LP).

cat
433.7 can you tell me?USADEC::BAZILLIONlove lies bleeding in my handsTue Jan 17 1989 13:484
    can someone tell who produced the first album they did or what
    production company they were under.
    
    butchaka
433.8Is It GOod ?ESOCTS::JENNISONBack To The CaveTue Jan 17 1989 13:487
        Re: cat
    
    	Ok Ok...I never saw the EP so I was confused? yea thats it!
    	8-)  I work at your basic "RecordTown" store...Its Fun!
               
    	SueJ
    	Rock-On
433.926959::ROTHBERGLick 'em Stix rule!Tue Jan 17 1989 13:487
                They DID  have  an album called "New Birth" and I
                do kind of remember that song being on it.  I was
                never a big MASS fan, but some of my friends were
                back some years ago.
                
                
433.11New Album ??SCOMAN::LAMOTHETue Jan 17 1989 16:1611
    
              TRUST ME... I know the album inside out and the title
    of the album is "new birth"...glad you remembered, cat,  :-) . So, there
    new album is out. I guess I'll just have to look at Strawberry's
    again.       
    
      So stryper produced their new ep, Wow Simply A M A Z I N G .
                                                                 
    
     sax
    
433.12Simply AmazingSCOMAN::LAMOTHETue Jan 17 1989 16:2312
    
    
       I also think the album is awsome-"New Birth". I believe they
    are from Revere as someone mentioned, I'll have to look on the album.
       Yes, "Do You Love Me , was played often, That is one of my favorite
    songs on the New Birth album. Yes, I work at HLO , how did you know?
    
       Where do you work Sj ?
    
      Sax
    
    
433.13Ask CjSCOMAN::LAMOTHETue Jan 17 1989 16:2910
    
    
      That's cool, I wonder if Cj knows....hey Cj !!! You know
    this group or what ? What is thier New album titled.
    
    
    
      Sax
    
    
433.14info on first Mass EPHAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Wed Jan 18 1989 00:4211
Songs from the first Mass EP:

"Looking Good"
"Pedal To the Metal"
"Holy One"
"Still of the Night"

It was released in 1985 on the 'Mass Music I & II' label. It was 
produced by Jon Mathias, and recorded at The Record Plant in NYC.

cat
433.1526959::ROTHBERGLick 'em Stix rule!Wed Jan 18 1989 02:398
                I haven't  seen  the  guitarist in a while, but I
                used to party  in Revere, and he was always there
                along  with  the  rest    of   the  Boston  bsaed
                metalheads.
                
                - R -
                
433.16Contents of New Birth EPSCOMAN::LAMOTHEWed Jan 18 1989 07:5734
    
     I thaught the songs listed on the album "New Birth" were the following
    :
       "Too far gone"
        "Crying Alone"
        "Time"
        "Back to Me"
        "Do You Love Me"
    
        "New Birth"
        "Left Behind"  
        "Voyager"
        "Day Without You"
        "watch Her Walk"
    
                        
    I don't think I forgot any , but *hit happens....
    
    
    
     What about the band members : Is Louie St. August, Gene D'Iria,Joey
    Vee Vadala, and Kevin Varrio still all together ???
    
    
     I know the album "New Birth" is an RCA album produced by mass and
    Tony plant ...I think, I can't remember it makes a while, plus it
    is too early..I need a coffee.
    
    
    
      Sax
    
    
    
433.17Crying Alone-Good Tune!ESOCTS::JENNISONBack To The CaveWed Jan 18 1989 09:2017
    re: cat
    
    
    	Thanks for the listing on the Ep.
    
    re: sax
    
    	cat is talking about the ep that was released before "New Birth"
        right cat?! I want to know the name of the new album!!! Wheres
    	CJ!?? DO ya know ?! By the way how is yur toe ?   8-)
    	Im working tonight, so I will check into it. Doubt we have it!
    	I use to work in Hudson. Do you work in the Fab ?
    
    
    	Rock-On
    	
    	SueJ
433.18cat and SjSCOMAN::LAMOTHEWed Jan 18 1989 10:1025
    
    re : cat
    
          I figured you were talking about an earlier album, what is
    the  title of that one? I knew you were not talking about new birth.
    Do you know the name of the new ep ?
    
    
     re: Sj
    
          Where's Cj ? Cj you on the tube yet , Just watch out for the
    grim reaper !  Sj , I work at hlo, in the systems engineering group,
    I go into the fab once in a while to trouble shoot the kiethly testers.
          Are you still working at hlo ? I also work on device/product
    problems also....etc..etc...
    
    
          If you find out the name of the new ep...please let me know,
    I'll look also...  :-)
    
    
    
      Sax
    
    
433.19HAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Wed Jan 18 1989 10:1912
>          I figured you were talking about an earlier album, what is
>    the  title of that one? 

It is just entitled 'Mass'.

And they have a new LP coming out, not an EP. The 4-song disk I just
listed was an EP (Extended Play). 'New Birth' was an LP (Long Play).
The newest disk (which is not yet out) will be an LP.

Just trying to get the terms straight. There seemed to be some confusion.

cat
433.20I'm having a noting breakdown..CISM::JANCZYKBless me father, for I have sinnedWed Jan 18 1989 12:3010
    CJ is right here.. she can't note very much anymore because her
    system manager is keeping tabs on her CPU time, and Noting time
    on IRDEV!!!  argh!!  But, I pop in once in a while to say hello!
    
    Hi! 
    Oh, and to answer your ?'s, I have never heard of MASS, are they
    any good?
    
    CJ lost in terminal termoil..
    
433.21Mass is SensationalSCOMAN::LAMOTHEWed Jan 18 1989 13:4818
    
    
      That is who I was referring your boss as...the "Grim Reaper" !
    
      Never heard of mass....oh good lord help this poor metal soul
    ;-) . You'll hear them soon, I promise Cj. Are they any Good Cj?
    
       Well, I will let you be the judge of that...I know you ...You
    will indeed like them ;-) .
    
    
     have to run....
    
    
    
      Sax
    
    
433.22Just a little sick humorCADSYS::DALTONA mind is a terrible thingWed Jan 18 1989 14:425
	Wot's the gnu LP gonna be called? "After Birth", perhaps?

	Kent

433.23YUCK!ESOCTS::JENNISONBack To The CaveWed Jan 18 1989 15:099
    Yea sick sick sick !!!!!
    
    
    				Perhaps:  "Its ALiVE"
    
    
    
    	Rock-On
    
433.2426959::ROTHBERGLick 'em Stix rule!Thu Jan 19 1989 01:288
                
                Re: .22
                
                Actually, thats  the  name  of a thrash band from
                Methuen!  Good band too.
                
                
433.25Album is at Tower RecordsMEMV01::BURKEFri Jan 20 1989 12:1816
    Hi,
    
    I'm not sure of the name of the new album, but I saw it last month
    at Tower Records in Boston...  In the Local section.  
    The personnel remains the same for all three (1ep, 2lps). I 
    heard "Pedal to the Metal" on WBCN, so I guess its been 
    re-mixed and re-released, since its on both the EP and the New
    LP. I have a couple of articles about these guys if anyone wants
    a copy, send me mail, and I'll be glad to send them to 
    you..      
    	
    		/Pati 

    
p.s.  they played a heavy metal wed. not too long ago, I missed it,
    did anyone else see them..?  they've been gone a long time.. 
433.26WHEN THE A/C GOES DOWN,JUST LOWER THE BEER PRICESSHRFAC::POTTLESun Nov 05 1989 17:552
I SAW THESE GUYS PUT ON ONE HELL OF A SHOW OPENING UP FOR MOLLY HATCHET
    ON JULY 4 1984 AT THE FROLICS ON SALISBURY BEACH......DP..
433.27USCTR1::EDEGAGNERip & Tear!Mon Nov 06 1989 09:5910
    
    I'm a big Mass fan and have seen them six or seven timen.  These guys
    are great But they are getting ripped by they're management!  These
    guys should be up there along with some of the bigger bands.  I get
    dissappointed with the music bus everytime I see a great band with tons
    of commercial and metal potential getting nothing but clubs.  These
    guys deserve a opening shot with a big name to get some buzz started!
    
    Mr. Ed...
                           
433.28New BirthLUDWIG::LAMOTHEHeres da Rose, Bite my throatWed Nov 08 1989 20:2711
    
    I have only one album from them, I would to see them live, but they
    have not come out to my neck of the woods yet,  :-(
    
      
    
       or maybe they have, and I didn't realize it.
    
    
    Sax  Who_Likes_MASS_but_hates_Taxa_ass_sitts !!
    
433.29Sat night MASSJUPITR::WCLUETTThu Nov 09 1989 08:544
    Mass plays at Sir Morgan's Cove --  Worcester
     
        Sat Night- Nov 11.
    
433.30Awsome ROULET::LAMOTHEDo you Love Me...Do ya want me by your sideThu Nov 09 1989 19:437
    
    
    That's great....what time are they going on ??
    
    
     Sax
    
433.31PNO::HEISERlove inhalationWed Dec 12 1990 13:267
    -.1 is over a year old.  What happened to these guys?  Were they really
    a Christian rock band ala Stryper?
    
    I heard about them when they came out but never go to listen to any of
    their stuff.
    
    Mike
433.32Gone AND forgottenICS::BUCKLEYand he shall reign for ever and everWed Dec 12 1990 14:0324
    >-.1 is over a year old.  What happened to these guys?  
    
    Nothing...THAT is the problem.  They are still a band, but are doing
    nothing!!!
    
    >Were they really a Christian rock band ala Stryper?
    
    Read my lips...NO!
    
    The name has a double meaning...Mass as in from MASSachusettes, but
    also Mass as in that which is held in celebration of Christ.  For the
    longest time, they were an Ozzy-clone band, but they kind of settled
    (eventually) into a Stryper clone band, with help from Michael Sweet
    (he produced their 2nd lp).
    
    >I heard about them when they came out but never go to listen to any of
    >their stuff.
    
    They have two lps out...first one is called New Birth...it's *ok*...
    recorded and mixed horribly though.  Had one substantial single off of
    it "Do You Love Me?", but I never bought the second lp.  I heard one
    single off of it, and it sounded JUST like Stryper.
    
    B.
433.33new local gigs?AD::FLATTERYMon Jan 21 1991 14:502
    ...does anybody have any new play dates for these guys in the
    Boston/Worcester area??................/karen
433.34VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKGrimace MusicallyTue Jan 22 1991 09:022
    
    I believe Mass is no more.
433.35source of info?AD::FLATTERYTue Jan 22 1991 10:172
    peter....what makes you say that?....they just played a couple of weeks
    ago at the Atlantic and at the Rockpile in Saugus...../k
433.36VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKGrimace MusicallyTue Jan 22 1991 10:222
    
    Huh, I heard they broke up. So much for unreliable information.
433.37the rumor of the death is greatly exagerattedAD::FLATTERYTue Jan 22 1991 13:501
    ...i forgive you.........this time..........(requisite smiley face)../k
433.38FWIWAD::FLATTERYFri Mar 01 1991 16:352
    ..........FWIW.........MASS is headlinging at the Channel in Boston
    tonight.......March 1............./k
433.39MASS---MAniaROULET::LAMOTHEIf ya Don't like what ya see hereFri Mar 01 1991 17:498
    
    
    TONIGHT !!! ....WTF , Gee I miss all the FUN !  I think they are very
    good, have not heard anything from them in a while however.  Think the
    last thing I heard from them was on the NEW BIRTH album...years ago.
    
    Sax
    
433.40BOSOX::GRENIERJust don't breathe, ok?Sat Mar 02 1991 10:437
    
    
    	Their latest release was 'Voices in the Night'.  Released in 
    	early '89 I think.  If you like Stryper, you'll like these 
    	guys.  
    
    Steve
433.41...still alive and kickin...AD::FLATTERYMon Mar 04 1991 09:498
    ....FWIW.......They played alot of new material on friday night and of
    course the old favorites that people who have followed them for years
    want to hear........sounded good......also FWIW, the only reason 
    people associate this band with Stryper is because Michael whatshisname
    from that band produced one of their releases....the name MASS was
    chosen by the record company that first signed the band way back when
    because the band members themselves couldn't agree to a name at the
    time.....has zip to do with religion......./k
433.42DASXPS::GRENIERJust don't breathe, ok?Tue Mar 05 1991 11:588
    
    
    	I remember their lyrics as being overtly religious in nature.
    	I might be wrong, though.  I'll have to check when I get 
    	outta here.
    
    
    Steve
433.43woah i still want youCAVLRY::BUCKICE :== Intense Coaster Enthusiasts!Tue Apr 30 1991 16:395
    sometimes i just slip away...
    and when i do i just close my eyes
    sometimes i don't know what to say
    but i've been missing you
             
433.44do these people ever play out?....AD::FLATTERYThu May 09 1991 14:191
    ..re: -1.....so buck...what's your point?......../k
433.45do you love me?CAVLRY::BUCKICE :== Intense Coaster Enthusiasts!Thu May 09 1991 15:154
    Hey K,
    
    I dunNO if dey ever play out, but iz still play de album every now n
    den.
433.46...i only got time for 1AD::FLATTERYThu May 09 1991 15:273
    .....oh i get it now......i was just trying to keep the conversation 
    lively anyhow..........so?..how many bands are you in this week?..../k
    
433.47CAVLRY::BUCKICE :== Intense Coaster Enthusiasts!Thu May 09 1991 15:401
    Mopi?  One, but I'd like to be in yours!
433.48topic?? what topic?AD::FLATTERYThu May 09 1991 15:452
    .....re:-1.....are you flirting with me??...thanks, it brightened
    up what is otherwise a dreary day in front of the tube...../k
433.49Bandless BuckCAVLRY::BUCKICE :== Intense Coaster Enthusiasts!Thu May 09 1991 16:025
    Flirting?  Me??  Hell, they didn't vote me class flirt for nuthin!
    ];^>
    
    Yeah, so like, I'm not really in a BAND band, but I am going in the
    studio soon to re-record one of my originals.  I'm lookin, though...
433.50MILKWY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haThu May 09 1991 17:028
    
    	>One, but I'd like to be in yours!
    
    
    	You'd like to be in her what?!
    
    							GTI
    
433.51CSC32::J_HERNANDEZOnABeerDayYouCanPeeForeverThu May 09 1991 17:195
    >	You'd like to be in her what?!
    
    
    He'd like to be in her, PLEASE!
    
433.52Cookster to the rescue. 8-)VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKCan you do the Macro Mosh?Fri May 10 1991 07:554
    
    Okay, break it up!
    
    /prc
433.53FWIWAD::FLATTERYThu May 30 1991 16:123
    ...FYI ....MASS is playing with Tin Pan Alley and Boa at Axis next 
    wednesday, June 5th.................i think tin pan alley is the
    headliner............./k
433.54Boa & TPA is coolCAVLRY::BUCKSAVE THE WILDCAT at Elitch Gardens!!!Thu May 30 1991 16:163
    I'll be there.
    
    /k, can I buy you a cocktail?
433.55yeah, TPA are good....AD::FLATTERYThu May 30 1991 16:373
    ...shuwah....i doubt you'll be able to find me in the crowd
    howevah....i have rehearsal that night but i'll be screaming in there
    after it....../k.
433.56MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHave fun storming the castle!!Thu May 30 1991 16:428
    
    >howevah....i have rehearsal that night but i'll be screaming in there
    >after it....../k.
    
    
    	Why?  Do you have a backstage pass?  8^)
    
    							GTI
433.57ya know?AD::FLATTERYThu May 30 1991 17:002
    ...no, i just thought that it might be crowded and considering he
    doesn't know me, i might be kind of difficult to find......../k
433.58CAVLRY::BUCKSAVE THE WILDCAT at Elitch Gardens!!!Thu May 30 1991 17:0311
    -1
    
    Just walk in with a sign on your back that says:
                                     
    			+-----------+
    			|           |
    			|     /k    |
    			|           |
                        +-----------+
    
    O-/k?
433.59i'll wear a live duck on my head....AD::FLATTERYThu May 30 1991 17:081
    ...now there's an idea.....................not............/k
433.60Snidley tooSOURCE::ZAPPIAshake & fakeThu May 30 1991 17:184
    
    	Also on the same bill at Axis - Snidley Whiplash.
    
    	- Jim
433.61can't review it, was too busy socializingAD::FLATTERYThu Jun 06 1991 11:482
    SO????.......who went to last nights show??...i was there, missed all the
    bands 'cept for Tin Pan Alley and Mass....../k
433.62;^(CAVLRY::BUCKSAVE THE WILDCAT at Elitch Gardens!!!Thu Jun 06 1991 12:231
    I was there, didn't see you AGAIN /k!
433.63i was the blonde with the face....AD::FLATTERYThu Jun 06 1991 12:322
    ...re -1 .....oh bucky bucky buck.....you probably saw me, you just
    didn't KNOW it was moi!........./k....p.s. how did you like the show?
433.64I liked the old days betterCAVLRY::BUCKSAVE THE WILDCAT at Elitch Gardens!!!Thu Jun 06 1991 12:533
    The show was good, but it doesn't seem to be the SAME Mass I used to
    watch in the dingyness of Celebrations on Wednesday nights 900 years 
    ago, ya know?
433.65..and now for a totally shallow comment...AD::FLATTERYThu Jun 06 1991 14:323
    ...ah yes, the old days......someone really ought to tell Gene to keep
    a shirt on when he plays...he was grossing me out........./k
    
433.66Don't say goodbye...CAVLRY::BUCKDon't fear, Love will make us strongTue Sep 22 1992 18:005
    -1
    
    Hey /k,
    
    Do you love me?
433.67AD::FLATTERYTue Sep 22 1992 19:462
    ...oh yeah buck....i spontaneously combust whenever i hear that tune on
    "lost 45's"..........;'))............/k
433.68"Where are they?"SALEM::STIGFri Sep 25 1992 15:412
    Does anyone know whats going on with these guys? I haven't heard
    anything on them in a while..
433.6969, dudes!CAVLRY::BUCKDon't fear, Love will make us strongFri Sep 25 1992 15:431
    2 words -- Floundering Career
433.70MR4DEC::JWHITMANI'll be Ba--aack....Fri Sep 25 1992 17:086
    
    
    
    Heard they were looking for a bass player...
    
    
433.71CONTRA::BEL_KWINITHIt's big, it's heavy, it's wood.Fri Sep 25 1992 17:105
    
    heard that guy mike 'mass' is still floating around and is still doing
    public relations for mass :') :') (in fact, i ran into him a couple of
    weeks ago, for those of you who remember this guy)
    
433.72AD::FLATTERYThu Dec 10 1992 11:053
    i was at the rockpile a week or so ago and saw a flyer saying that
    Mass is playing the Rockpile this weekend........call to confirm
    but i think the flyer said Dec. 12th.........../k