Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    It's amazing that you haven't heard anything of them. What about :

		- Motorcycle Man
		- Strong arm of the law
		- Dallas 1 pm
		- ...


    Here are some LPs I remember :

		- Saxon
		- Denim & Leather
		- Wheels of Steel
		- Strong arm of the Law
		- The eagle has landed (live)
		- The power & the glory
		- Crusader

	Can't remember the lastest title.

	Didier.

    
    
    Somebody tell me which album has "Ride Like The Wind' on it, i suppose
    it must be the latest.?!
    
    BTW - i have heard some of their old stuff which was pretty heavy,
    but i read some interview with them recently and they were being
    accused left,right and centre of going Commercial and Pop Rocky.
    Don't you just get sick of the media, i mean who gives a sh**, after
    all it's up to the band, what musical path they pursue.
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

    
    re.2
      
    You forgot "Innocence is no excuse" (album)
           
    I can't remember the name of the latest album, its not very good
    though.

    
    
    
     Also "Rock the nation"
    
    				M
    				 B

    
              SAXON was certainly a hot band when they surfaced in 1979.
    They started out with a heavy duel guitar sabbath sound...
    They have fizzled since then trying to commercialize to american
    tastes. They tried to get a more american sound with Crusader in
    1984. This album was excellent and new drummer Nigel Glockler played
    his Neal Peart style of drumming to perfection. A strong album that 
    really fizzled. Since then Glockler departed for new drummer Nigel
    Durham but unfortunately the latest album Destiny is a real poor
    effort in my opinion....
    
                           Discography
    
                     Biff Byford   Vocals
                     Paul Quinn    Guitars
                     Graham Oliver Guitars
                     Steve Dawson  Bass
                     Pete Gill     Drums
                                   
    
           1)Saxon (1979)
           2)Wheels of Steel (1980)
           3)Strong Arm of the Law (1980)           
           4)Denim and Leather (1982)
           
          Nigel Glockler replaces Pete Gill on Drums
    
           5)The Eagle Has Landed (Live) (1982)
           6)Power And The Glory (1983)
           7)Crusader (1984)
           8)Innocense Is No Excuse (1985)
           
          Paul Johnson replaces Steve Dawson on Bass.
    
           9)Rock the Nations (1986)
    
          Nigel Durham replaces Nigel Glockler on Drums.
                                                     
          10)Destiny (1988)
    
    
           There are numerous EP's available also....
    
                                   Rich

I have one or two Saxon LPs, but don't really listen to them that much.
The one song I remember that I really liked was the first song on Side 2
of one of their albums (don't ask me shich one!), I think it was called
"This Town Knows How to Rock" - it had some pretty incredible drumming
in it!

Anybody recommend any of their albums as the best?

cat

	Strong Arm of the Law


	If I remember well, "This town..." is on Crusader (not sure)

	Didier

    It's gotta be "Wheels Of Steel" for pure POWER....!!
    
    I caught Saxon early on when they were up front of the NWOBHM (that's
    New Wave of British Heavy Metal to you mate!!) with the likes of
    Maiden etc...etc..
    
    I remember hearing "Stallions of the Highway" of their first album
    and BAM!!, I was hooked.
    
    That first album was just a sampler for what was to come....
    
    The aforementioned "Wheels " album sent my HI-FI running for cover...
    
    Tracks like Motorcycle Man, Strangers In the Night and Wheels Of
    Steel are just all time classics. They still make my hair stand on 
    end today. 
    
    I saw them at the Glasgow Appollo on that tour and it was like WOOOAH!!
    They were hungry, mean and determined to rock the life outta you.
    
    "Strong Arm..." album followed as did the next tour but it was even
    noticeable at that stage the pot was beggining to go off the boil.
    
    Dallas 1pm IMO was the best cut off that album. The gig was so-so
    and I remember thinking "Nah, ...just an off night."
    
    I haven't bought a single Saxon item since....nor have I ever gone
    back to see them.
    
    A great HM band was lost to mediocrity and commercialism......shame
    !!
    
    SAXON R.I.P. 
    
    
    

    'This town....' is on Power and the GLory.
    The last live gig i've heard of was at Reading in Rivermead and
    had a one off appearance by the second Nigel on drums.
       
    
    
    
    Ali 
    
    
    

    
   	 Has anybody heard the new album "Rn'R Gypsies"???
    
    
    			Cheers
    			SRi
    
    P.s Hope it's good because I liked "Destiny...."
    
    
    		

    they played at the glasgow mayfair last saturday,this only holds
    arround 1000 people.what a comedown from selling out 2 nights at the
    appolo every year for 4 years.
    
    the sad demise of a once brilliant rock band.

    
    Well, three years and 2 days since the last reply!
    
    I'm on shift here, got the TV on as background music (like you do) and 
    who should come running on stage but ... yup, Saxon!
    
    God these guys are passed it.
    
    Biff is overweight, BAD paroxide job, complete with neck scarf, one of
    the guitar players is wearing a white tassled leather jacket. I ask you
    eh... tassles are way out of style now but WHITE tassles ???? Wooooo...
    The other guitar player just looks like he'd rather be at home gardening 
    and his perm looks decidedly dodgy with that recieding hairline. 
    
    I ask you, whats the world coming to when old farts are running around
    with bad paroxide jobs, white tassled jackets, neck scarks, Charvel
    guitars (ack!), half-head-of-hear-anyway perms all bobbing back and forth
    with a nauseating grin like weebles. I'm gonna puke!
    
    BACK TO THE TAR PITS FOR THESE OLD FOSSILS!!!!

    I saw SAXON twice at rivermead in reading , and they wernt bad ,
    considering that there are worse bands out there which sound just
    darn right dribble which get so much airplay and exposure  its like
    having a spike up your bottom !
    However some of there stuff is quite good at least up there with some
    of the stuff being made now . there last one they did , ( solid balls
    of rock ) which has some kicking riffs , they also did an album called
    back on the street which is sort of a best of saxon some nice tunes on
    that . Read some place that they were bring out a new record in the
    next couple of months , might be good , well to some small amount of
    people ........
    
    
    
        Kicking sound......ED....
    
    

    
    
    
    Saxon were never any good, they should just give up and quit.....
    
    
    E

    Well it looks like Mr. Kisiel has a one track mind , saying that they
    should quit because he does'nt like them . The same should go for his
    band which sound like a moose on heat with a screaming banshie in hot
    pursut .....
    
    
        KICKING SOUND......ED..

     
    What are you talking about, One track mind????
    
    At least a moose on heat with a screaming bansie in hot pursuit would
    attract some attention, unlike Saxon.....
    
    
    
    Lets take a vote on who likes Saxon and who does'nt.
    
    Put my name down for does'nt!
    
    /e/

    SAXON have one of my all time favourite cheesey lyrics:
    
    "Where were you in `79?
     when the dam began to burst.
     Were you wearing denim,wearing leather... etc"
    

    
    
    Forever Free - Saxon's new album. 
    
    Release date: May 17th
    
    Already a top 20 European hit, the new album 'forever free' has sold
    over 60,000 copies in Germany alone. Saxon return to those shores fresh
    from a sell out tour for their biggest U.K. tour in years.
    
    The new single: Iron Wheels/Forever free, alailable now.
    
    
    
    I won't be buying it, how about you Ed???
    
    
    EWAN

    Saxon always struck me as a band trying to be "just like" about a
    zillion other bands.
    
    Ironically, my main recollection about them was that there was nothing
    memorable about them.  ;-)

    
    
    Just a quick question....
    
    
    		How big are Saxon in the U.S.?
    
    
    
    
    EWAN

    re.20 
    Yes I will buy it in the near future . 
    
    re.21
    As for being memorable , I could also say that for at least 90% of the
    new and well established band .

    Sorry that note should read :-
    
    As for being memorable , I could also say that for at least 90% of the
    new and well established bands at the momment ..
    
    
    E...

    A band I used to play in, Iron Heart (barf!) supported Saxon at said
    Rivermead gig.
    
    -Tony

    
    
    Tony, you were'nt in the band at the time were you???
    
    I was at that gig!
    
    
    p.s. Have you got your MR2 yet?
    
    
    EWAN

    
    Now that would be telling ;^)
    
    Waiting for the quote on the Toyota MR2 (just a formality, I know how 
    much it costs) and then I should get it in 4-6 weeks.
    
    -Tony

    
    
    I don't think you were......correct?
    
    
    How are you gonna carry around your Marshall stacks?
    
    
    
    EWAN

Is this the same Saxon I saw about 11-12 years ago, opening up for
Triumph at E.M. Lowes in Worcester? Or where they Saxton?!  Whichever
it was, they stunk. As for memories, first or second song, the bass
player guy ran over and kissed the singer guy on the crotch. More
vulgarities happened after that. Wicked slobs...

Man the profanities and boos that came from the crowd after that
little episode... Would have made even Axl Rose leave the stage.

Droid 

>Triumph at E.M. Lowes in Worcester? Or where they Saxton?!  Whichever
>it was, they stunk. As for memories, first or second song, the bass
>player guy ran over and kissed the singer guy on the crotch. More
    
    You sure it wasn't Mystic Powers??

    Yeah,Droid.  I was at that show too.It Mighta Benn A_Little over 13 
    Years_Ago tho.I remember that I had bought the"Wheels_Of_Steels"
    Album around that time.I was a Head_Banger then,and Glad I didn't 
    see the"Crotch_Kissin"Scene.(If it did Happen.) but did you see the 
    part when all the Band_Members gave Each_Other Hot_Oil Treatments?!!
    
    Crazy_Now_That_Really_Started_The_Boooo's_Al
    
    
      I'm Kiddin.. I liked SAXON Back_Then

    
    I saw them supporting Motorhead on the Bomber Tour at the Glasgow
    Apollo. Can't remember the year for sure but in was the very early
    80's. They were corny then...god knows what they must be like now!
    
    Del.
    
    ps. still have the 12" version of "747 Strangers In The Night" yeeesh.
    
    

    besides the crotch-suck , there must of been some good things about
    them, they were'nt that bad. When they played in Madrid or some place
    in Spain thay were quite good . Have some pitty .8^)....
    
    ....ED
    

    
    
    Saxon are still as crap as ever IMHO!
    
    But if people still buy there records then good luck to them. 
    
    
    
    
    EWAN 

    Well this is a fair enough comment for Mr. K , the man who thinks
    PRINCE is gods gift to man and music...
    
    
         E....8^)
    

    Sorry to all those Prince fans out there , I was informed by the 
    management that the last comment was a breach of confidentiality ,
    Mr. K's exact words were " Saxon are o.k , but if they had some
    originality , then I would sing at my next gig 5 prince cover songs
    and grope my crotch , just like my idol."
    
    .......8^)......E.

    
    
    RE: .36
    
    	
    		Ed, how drunk were you when you saw Saxon live!
    
    this band offer nothing original or interesting. IMHO
    
    
    
    End of conversation!
    
    
    tar tar
    EWAN

    Did so meone mention "Triumph".
    
    Sorry, but that's another band I sorta throw into the "Wanna be like
    every other band" category, which perhaps is best described as a
    "Generic band".
    
    I don't think they're nearly as blatant about it as Saxon.  But I 
    saw a couple of videos and every note, every lyric, every move,
    every angle seemed like something I had seen or heard a thousand
    times before.
    
    And I know their guitar player Rik Emmett seems to garner a certain
    amount of respect in guitar circles but sorry... I see him as just
    another "generic" guitarist.   And his columns in Guitar Player
    magazine seem to even blatantly teach "Generic guitar".
    
    Why am I saying all this?  I think it's just that it's been a long
    time since an album came out by some of the ("emotionless") innovators
    I like to listen to like Morse, Vai, Larry Carlton, Satch, Eric
    Johnson, etc.
    
    I long for something "new".
    
    	db

    Saxon eh? Gawd, I remember nipping along to Hammy Odeon especially
    to see them support Whitesnake in spring 1980. I dug out the old
    albums recently and had a good laugh/wince.  Still they did put
    out some good tunes at the height of NWOBHM; "Dallas 1pm", "Hungry
    Years" "Wheels of Steel" "Strong Arm.." "747.." but there was corn
    by the bucket-load as well.
    
    Biff Byford made me laugh though, he looked about 70 years old back
    then (a sort of Vera Duckworth meets Tommy Aldridge) and what with those 
    hollow cheeks, looked as if he wore dentures that were constantly 
    threatening to escape. He was flanked on one side by a guitarist (Paul 
    something?) who wore a cap to hide his baldness and on the other side by 
    the this wirey little bassist (Steve Dawson?) who was partially bald, 
    save for some reluctant strands hanging for dear life to the side of his 
    head. Saxon never made it in the States because they were simply too 
    ugly. :^) 
    
    barry.