Conference napalm::heavy_metal

                
                My  starting   list,  generic  looking  now,  not
                sounding, okay . . .
                
                Britiny Fox
                Cinderella
                Faster Pussycat
                Poison
                Europe
                Bon Jovi
                
                (Well, maybe not FP)
                
                Hmmm, most of these bands sound alike too (except
                for BJ really).
                
                If you want sound  alike, I'll also have to throw
                in G&R.
                
                

    
    	Seriously.. What's the diff between Cinderella and Britny Fox..
    or Motley Crue and Poison...  or Europe and Bon Jovi....  Different
    amount's of hair gel...diff hair dressers???
    
    BK
    
    

    
    
    	HOLD IT!!!  There's a BIG difference between Motley Crue
    	and Poison, Bri!  Not much difference between Cinderella
    	and Britny Fox, but the Crue and Poison??
    
    	NAH.....
    
    	Tig~~
    

    
    Yeah, Tig/ (tail up, ya know) is right.  There is no comparison
    between Crue and Poison (at least Poison rocks).
    
    Buck
    :^j

    
    
    
    	Now now, Buck....we don't want to put down the Crue
    	either...they've come and gone but I still enjoy
    	both bands music, depending on the mood I'm in....
    
    	(^8
    
    	Tig~~
    

Well, I also believe that too mnay bands nowadays sound too much alike.
Remember - I entered a similiar note not too long ago about vocalists...

But I have an answer as to why:

Remember that the bands we get to see and hear on MTV are a very small 
portion of what is out there musically. How do they get decided? By the
record companies!

Suppose you are the head of A&R for a record company, and you're looking 
for a band to sign to your label. (Remember you are judged and promoted by
how well your bands make money for the label!) You go into a club and
see two bands - one is a blues/jazz band, and the other sounds and looks
just like Bon Jovi, who just sold NINE MILLION albums. Which one are 
you gonna sign?

The record industry is business, and labels sign and promote whatever will
make them money. And remember - this is what the average record buyer wants!
If they didn't, the bands wouldn't have gotten signed to begin with, 
and certainly wouldn't have sold any albums. The companies are just
responding with a demand from the public to find these groups.

cat

    
    RE .3
    
    Kim if you read..I think ....the base note you would see that he
    was talking about LOOKS... I didn't say that they sound alike...but
    ya hafta admit that they sure do look alike!!!  A couple of times
    when they showed a quick clip of Poison's Bret M... I thought it
    was Vince Neil...and the style of clothind is the same...and same
    poses...and same style of playing..and same type of vids...and the
    list goes on and on.  I wasn't slagging off on either of the bands
    but IMO they look alike.
    
    Bk
     

    
    lets call em' "Mirror Bands" will the real Vince Neil please stand
    up!
    
    
    
              Too Much Comparison,,Need a new Gimic!
    
                                        jim

    Motley Crue useta kick serious *ss, at least while I was in High
    school. IMO all these "mirror" bands are out there having a good
    time and who are we to slam how they make their living?
    
    <insert opening bars to battle hymn of the republic>
    <the devil dog appears wearing a George Washington type hat and
    a white wig>
    
    Here in America we are afforded the rights to Life, Liberty, and
    the pursuit of happiness. Nobody ever said that anyone had to pursue
    happiness in his own way. If somebody decides that the best way
    to happiness is to imitate someone else, then we as Americans should
    respect their right to... <SLPOOCH>
    
    <the devil dog is now wiping rotten tomato off his face as the music
    stops>
    
    <the opening bars of The Trooper begin as the devildog grabs a
    flamethrower and violently flames whatever he is near>
    
    What the hell kinda world is this where all we get is the same music
    and the same "look", oh sure there are a few origional perk here
    and there, but hey not every can of coffee in the Moscow coffee
    line is the same either. We must support bands like Iron Maiden and
    Metallica who stand for freedom and refuse to compromise and try to 
    force us into a socialist like musical frame of mind. We must...
    
    <devil dog accidently hit the flame off switch>
    
    Look if ya don't like it don't listen, if you do, who am I to flame
    you or them.
    
    
    the devil dog who is gonna go wipe this tomato off his forhead.
    
    

    <Insert the sound of a siren in the distance.  The ambulance coming
    to take the old Devil Dog of to the funny farm>
    
    You had a vacation lately, dude?  Let me buy you a drink, you obviously
    need it!
            
    Anyway...
    = <the devil dog appears wearing a George Washington type hat and
    = a white wig>
      
    I could never see it.
    
    gh

    Name the time and place! 

    Saturday Night Live had a piece in its new section a few week ago
    that said that some reporter or someone had discovered that Stryper,
    Europe, Poison(I think) and a few other bands were actually the
    same band.  As the guy was reading out the names, their pictures
    were flasing by behind him, and to tell you the truth, they all
    did have the same "look", especially to someone who didn't know
    them from their music.  I thought it was a riot!
    
    Aram
    

    I meant in its NEWS section. 
    
    Aram 
    who_should_go_home_now
    

    Did ya' ever notice
    
    Ratt's "Dance,Dance,Dance" = Crue's "Girls,Girls,Girls"
    
    The Sentinel
    

    
    	I know all you Crue bashers aren't going to like this, but...
    
    ever notice that when the Crue comes out with a different style,
    that the rest of the industry follows?
    You don't believe me?
    
    Remember 1981-1982??? Remember the "lone rider of the apocalypse"
    look the Crue had? Remember the Satanic overtones? The wild blonde
    lead singer? They got huge, and everyone tried to look like them.
    
    Remember 1985??? Remember the Theatre of Pain tour's glam look,
    with the girly makeup, "big" hair, and goofy spandex pink
    polka-dotted tights with panty-type thingies on the outside of them?
    
    Remember all of the tattoos on these guys?
    
    Now look at all of the popular metal bands (with few exceptions)
    look at Bon Jovi, Ratt, Poison, White Snake, White Lion, etc. etc.
    They are all DIRECT rip-offs of Motley Crue's different looks.
    
    Now Motley Crue's into leather, brown hair, and jeans, and look
    around at all the bands that are following them.
    
    Deny it if you will, but I've been watching this since the early
    80's.
    
    /Motorbreath

    Er? come to think of it, he's right, at least as far as the posers
    go. If I'm not mistaken, bands like Aerosmith, Old Van Halen, Judas
    Priest, the Scorpions, Black Sabbath, and AC/DC, changed little
    during Motley Crue's fashion days. 
    
    The devil dog who's still shaking cobwebs.
    
    P.S. Van Halen always had a wild blonde lead singer, but DLR never
    used 6 cans of hair spray for every show.

    
    
    	I don't understand what that has to do with the Crue.
    	The Crue is making a statement and changing with the
    	times...so be it.
    
    	But to me it's the bands who are following them who are
    	the losers here.  They are the ones who seem to think that
    	because they dress and act like the Crue that they're
    	going to become as popular.
    
    	I've noticed their phases, too.  And I've noticed that
    	alot of bands seem to follow them.  But I guess I just
    	don't see the point of bashing the Crue for the group's
    	that follow them.
    
    	Knowwhatimean???
    
    	Tig~~
    

    re tig.  For the record I wasn't bashing Crue, IMO if someone is
    copying someone else then they are the posers, not the ones being
    copied.
    
    the devil dog 

    
    
    	No problem, Jes. It wasn't directed towards anyone
    	in particular.  I guess I just put on my airhead wig
    	today because I couldn't understand the point.
    
    	Tig~~
    

    re:.27
    
    What?????  Who is following who???????  I haven't read the rest
    of the replies to this one but .27 is a bunch of bull.....
    
    Crue just steals their look from bands which have already been
    successful.  They also look straight at what is selling and what
    is wanted by the teeny-bobbers before they change.  They changed
    to jeans and leather because of it's success with other bands. 
    If they change their image, they hope to catch the attention of
    the market that ignored them.  They only do things to sell...they
    have absolutly no talent or creativity to be original.
    
    
    The Sentinel  (Nothing personel.....)
    

    
    	re:35
    
    Tell me the bands that the Crue has imitated, and I will maybe
    be convinced. Otherwise you just sound like another person
    that just doesn't like the Crue, and can't listen to anything
    that isn't negative about them.
    And I'm not talking "well, this band's singer dyed his hair blond,
    and that band blah blah blah." Tell me the bands before the Crue
    that were setting the trends, and made certain looks/styles that
    the Crue said "this band is making it BIG with this style, let's
    jump on the bandwagon and copy it!"
    
    	What band looked like the Crue, sounded like the Crue, lived
    the same incredible on-the-razor's-edge lifestyle that the Crue
    lived and was huge BEFORE MOTLEY CRUE??? I'd like to hear it.
    
    
    /Motorbreath

    
    RE.36
    
      Well I didn't start this but I do remeber something,
    
     On the theatre of pain tour they were wearing replicas of Steve
    Tylers old clothes,Nikki had the polka dots, Vince was wearing
    something that looked like Tylers but with a different color.
    
    				M
    				 B

    re .36
    
    For their BIG hair makeup and suspenders was taken straight from
    pop and rock other than metal.  For example David Bowie with his
    make up for Ziggy Stardust, or how about Boy George.  You might
    even say that they used a toned down version of Kiss.  Not to mention
    their clothes being taken from various artists like Aerosmith, or
    David Lee Roth (While he was in VH).  There is another band that
    was known for its drag look but the name eludes me.
    
    As I mentioned in my first note, their tough guy image was taken
    from bands to appeal to the heavier crowd.  They copied bands like
    Priest, and Maiden.  Priest in turn, switched to a more pop look
    and sound.  What it all boils down to is money.  What ever the market
    wants they will do.  I don't like crue but I don't hate 'em either.
     They even have a couple songs I like.     
    
    
    The Sentinel