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Conference napalm::heavy_metal

Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Wed May 04 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
Total number of notes:65616

286.0. "On Playing Diverse Music" by CSC32::G_HOUSE (Slime Devil) Fri Oct 21 1988 16:43

    This is an interesting start for a discussion on whether bands should
    or should not play music with a lot of variety in it.  We had a
    little bit of this type discussion before in some of the noters
    band notes and the Misc note, but it might be interesting to persue.
    
    
    
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    re: -1
    
    2EZ started out the same way, everyone with different tastes and
    different directions.  The problem is that when you pull in too
    many directions at once, you leave holes you could drive an 18 wheeler
    through.  We all like a variety of music, and what we play isn't
    all heavy, but you can't please everyone all the time, so you go
    with the majority.  I don't know of many successful groups that
    play a wide variety of material, it's linked somehow.  It's basically
    hard, or bluesy, or thrash, or something.   Just some useless advice
    from a 15 year veteran.
    
    
    					Mr Scary II
    
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286.6The question is, does it work for ya?CSC32::G_HOUSESlime DevilFri Oct 21 1988 17:4011
    Back on the topic...
    
    I like to see bands do diverse material, but it seems like that
    would make it difficult to get jobs.  If you do covers, don't club
    owners want you to play something dancable for the most part? 
    
    It'd seem like if you played a really wide variety of music, you'd
    turn off a lot of the crowd.  Have you guys ever experienced this,
    prc?
    
    gh
286.7This bed's too hot, that one's too cold, but ...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEDon&#039;t worry, be &gt;&gt;HEAVY&lt;&lt;Sat Oct 22 1988 08:0934
    The way I see it you have 3 choices when you start out with a band:
    
    1)  You do all radio covers.  This will get you into a club in a
        hurry.  But after a while you start sounding like a LOUD radio.
    	But you can find plenty of work if you don't mind traveling.
    	You just loose some of your identity along the way.
        
    2)  You do a wide variety of material.  This is usually a result
        of having a bunch of different ideas as far as where the band
        is going.  So it ends up being a band playing *their* favorites
        instead of playing to the crowd.  Now this will satisfy some
        of the people some of the time, but it does have a serious draw
    	back.  Say a couple are there, the guy gets into it, the girl
    	doesn't.  As the law of averages would have it, 2 people will
    	leave the club.  And when you think about it, even though most
    	people don't like labels, if you're going to sell a product,
    	you must know what aisle to stick it on.  Would you buy a 4
    	wheel drive Rolls Royce with a VW engine, a bit do diverse.
    	I feel with this kind of angle you end up selling the band
    	short, and you'll be doomed to playing local bars to your
    	*own* little crowd every week - no future here.
    
    3)	You can play a mix of originals and covers.  Play a fairly tight
    	group of covers and let your originals give you the diversity.
    	Play a couple of crowd pleasers each set and back them up with
    	your material.  See, if you do ALL covers you'll never get a
    	record deal.  If you're TOO diverse, no one really knows what
    	you're trying to say with you music other than "?".  So I think
    	the most profitable choice would be this one.  Scary picks
    	door #3.
    
    
    				Scary
    
286.8Metal original or copy ?ASAHI::COOPERFor The Devil Sends The Beast With WrathMon Oct 24 1988 08:4113
    Gotta agree with Mr. Scary on that. 
    
    Seems that 2EZ (of late) is playing abut a 60/40 mix of
    originals/covers.  This seems to work okay for us, since we tend
    to write a lot of tunes with no provocation.  2EZ doesn't seem to
    care if we get famous or not (although inside, I think we all wanna
    be rock stars)...
    
    Anyhow, if ya go to AJ's (the local metal establishment), all you
    hear is bands that do covers...I've always liked to be different,
    and I guess this is my chance, eh ?
    
    jc
286.10Entropy winsCSC32::G_HOUSESlime DevilMon Oct 24 1988 11:557
    re: .9  That's great to hear that it works...I'd like to see more
    of this.
    
    BTW: re: .1  Do you mean "Last Caress" from Danzig?  (which Metallica
    did on Garage Days Re-revisited)?  That's a cool tune.
    
    gh
286.11I need a new bandSALEM::DACUNHATue Oct 25 1988 13:0933
    
    
                          My band is doing a mostly "cover" show, with
                    a few originals mixed in.  The diversity comes from
                    the type each song is.  You can play original top
                    40 and cover metal or vice-versa, or any combination.
    
                          Everyone wants to tap thier feet, sway thier
                    hips or clap thier hands to the music.  The trick
                    is to not let it get boring....for anyone........
    
                          We try to please the majority by doing a little
                    of everything (well, maybe not EVERYTHING)  and
                    a lot of Rock and Roll.
    
                                       I hafta agree with Mr. Scary
                               about the three roads and inevitable
                               destinations.
    
    
    
    
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