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| 168.2 | Barf! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | What you ask that for, you a spy? | Fri Jul 29 1988 14:20 | 14 |
| I too would classify Europe as metal and think that John Norham is a
pretty good guitarist. I just can't stand to look at 'em, their vids
make me wanna change channels (ASAP!). They're too "glossy", like
someone else said. Esp the singer, don't know his name.
The music is ok, but for the most part doesn't do anything for me.
Nothing very catchy or original to listen to. In the same genre, I'm
much rather listen to Poison. They don't take themselves so serious
and have some nice hooky songs.
Give me something to like, as Europe hasn't shown me anything so
far.
gh
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| 168.3 | they don't have the "metal edge" | REGENT::GALLANT | Yankee girls just can't be beat | Fri Jul 29 1988 14:40 | 16 |
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I must admit that I liked Europe when they first came out
and I bought their album (didn't get much airplay on my
cassette though).
BUT! Although I also thought Joey Tempest was a cutie
when he first showed up, I don't like him now. He's
all teeth and all eyes and very pretty. Pretty meaning
WITHOUT makeup. I just don't find him handsome...
They're an OK band, but their Final Countdown album
had something missing, IMO.
/tig!
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| 168.4 | Smile Joey !! You're on blanded camera !!! | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Big Brother's watching you | Fri Jul 29 1988 23:21 | 11 |
| I too liked Europe when they first came out but, I bought "The Final
Countdown" and Autograph's "Loud And Clear" on the same day. Europe
didn't get much stereo time at the Scaryhut for A WHILE. To me
Europe is like Poison, Autograph, White Lion, Tesla, and a bunch
more that are ALUMINUM as opposed to METAL or even HEAVY METAL.
It'll still hurt if ya get hit by it, it just won't leave any lasting
impressions - like say Priest, now we're talking METAL of the heaviest
variety !!!
Mr Scary II
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| 168.5 | < 5,4,3,2,1 -- Flop> | RDGENG::GREID | | Sat Jul 30 1988 06:48 | 21 |
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I feel very much the same as those before me in this note, to start
off with Europe's 'Final Countdown' was impressive but now it has
died a death cos some of the tracks are catchy they just lack that
certain staying power to get airplay for more than just a few months
after release.
Perhaps John Norum made the right move, cos i have his 'Total Control'
album and it stands just as tall. In my opinion his version of 'Back
On The Streets', originally by Vinnie Vincents Invasion, is much
the better track.
I have all three Europe albums, and the tracks Stormwind, Wings
of Tomorrow and Seven Doors Hotel, knock the spots off anything
on The Final Countdown. Check out Scream of Anger, helluva track,
off their second album. I also agree the Kee Marcello is an excellent
guitarist.
Prince Of The Dawn.
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| 168.6 | -=[MOSAT]=- rates Europe | HSSWS1::GREG | Your problems: Not my concern | Sat Jul 30 1988 09:48 | 7 |
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Europe... I have but one comment...
Weeeeeaaak!
-=[MOSAT]=-
(So many opinions, so much apathy)
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| 168.7 | I feel pretty | SALEM::BUTKUS | | Mon Aug 01 1988 05:42 | 10 |
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This discussion on Europe made me think of something I read about
Joey Tempest he said he doesn't like American musicians because
all they think about is there Looks and not the song content.
Ain't that a kick in the A*S.Other than that I like em.
M
B
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| 168.8 | my opinion, for what it's worth | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Mon Aug 01 1988 08:17 | 12 |
| re: .1
> I think Europe is Metal.
>
> If Poison, Cinderella, and Bon Jovi are, so is Europe.
Well, I don't think any of these bands are 'heavy metal', IMO. Not that
we can't discuss them in this file, because there is an obvious metal
influence in their music. But again, IMO, they are NOT metal!
cat
who_likes_some_of_these_bands,_but_let's_not_get_confused_here_
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| 168.9 | Get a new gig, guys... | PLEXUS::V5REGISTRAR | | Mon Aug 01 1988 15:47 | 12 |
| I hate generic, lipgloss bands.
If they don't have anything new to say, or if they can't even copy
everyone else *well*, then I say they should give it up.
There really is too much mediocrity. I have no tolerance.
It's like, ok, we have our lether pants, our frosted hair and our
bubblegum wrapper songs, that must mean we're rock stars! We *look*
like rock stars, therefore we must be!
Stacie
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| 168.10 | WRONG GUITARIST GUYS!!! | WFOV11::ADAM_M | | Tue Aug 02 1988 00:48 | 18 |
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The present guitarist for Europe is Kee Marcello, a fellow Swede
like the rest of the band. John Norum played all the guitar tracks
on the first and second Lp's including "The Final Countdown". John
left the band due to differnces with the lead singer, Joey Tempest.
When John left to pursue a solo career, they snatched up a popular
guitarist over there by the names of Kee Marcello. Since John quit
right before the tour, Kee had to learn all the stuff and fill in.
The new album is the first time we can actually hear what Kee
sounds like...i.e. his own style. So far from the single that's
out, (I forgot the name of It) he sounds pretty damn good.
A fellow Europe fan,
MjA
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| 168.18 | Superstitious! | ASIC::JCASEBOLT | I don't believe in Love | Thu Aug 11 1988 15:12 | 15 |
| I just bought the new Europe album yesterday for a quick injection
of roadmusic on my trip from OhiO. I really like the first album,
and could stand listening to a few songs off the second album, but
I must say I'm very impressed with the new album. I've only listened
to it twice, but the songs (maybe thanks to the influence of the
new guitarist are much stronger and infinitely less -- um, 'happy'(?)
than "Rock the Night" and "Final Countdown". Recommended for your
listening pleasure!
One complaint - Joey Tempest overdoes the "Oooh Baby"'s and
the "Oh Yeah"'s - they just aren't necessary;ask Geddy Lee!
John
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| 168.19 | HA! HA! | HAGGIS::IRVINE | OK! Where the hell am I ? | Mon Oct 10 1988 11:13 | 8 |
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How can Europe be classed as Metal - I take it that this note was
meant as a joke. ( A bad one at that! )
Bonzo
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| 168.21 | Europe Rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolz! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Quayle? Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | Mon Oct 10 1988 11:27 | 8 |
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Hey, I think Europe is the best thing to happen to metal since
Ozzy and the Sabs! These guys rock, and rock HARD!! They are
so heavy, I can't see why any *serious* Metalhead would not
worship this band like I do!
Rock on,
Buck
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| 168.22 | 8^) | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Mon Oct 10 1988 11:29 | 0 |
| 168.23 | Bah humbug | ASAHI::COOPER | Woe to you, O earth and sea | Mon Oct 10 1988 11:48 | 8 |
| RE: -.2
Agagagagagagagagaaaaa...
RE: -.3
Pop Metal = Commercial metal = ...
Capice ?
jc
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| 168.24 | ... | ANT::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Mon Oct 10 1988 16:26 | 7 |
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Europe isn't real heavy, but I still think they border on
H_M.
'Superstitious' is a kick-*ss song.
GTI
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| 168.25 | Blowin' Chunks (Bleeargh!) | MCIS2::AKINS | Big Bad Billy.....Sweet William now. | Wed Oct 19 1988 23:48 | 9 |
| Europe and the rest of the P*p-Metal (Isn't P*P considered profanity
in this note?) like Bon Jovi, Ratt, Cinderella and Poison are not
real Metal. It's just Loud P*P, which is geared to appeal to 14,15,
and 16 year old females (Not intended as an insult to women of course
;-)) They really all sound the same and make REAL Metalheads blow
chunks!!!!!
Bill
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| 168.26 | It's The Final Putdown ... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Don't worry, be >>HEAVY<< | Thu Oct 20 1988 02:34 | 8 |
| I saw Europe on the MTV concert tonight - and even though they are
as pop as Dr. Pepper they are VERY talented musicians, I MUST give
credit where it's due. They are good in "their" field which IS
pop-rock. I must admit I had to have a dose of Death Angel on the
way into work ! "Cherokee" kept playing over in my head.
Scary
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| 168.27 | new one | CASEE::LALLI | Didier - BCE Valbonne - DTN 828.5423 | Wed Sep 11 1991 11:38 | 4 |
| Announced in mid-september on Epic and produced by Beau Hill, the new album is
called "Prisoners of Paradise"
Didier
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| 168.28 | jon anchovy look-a-like joey tempest (like thats his real name) | CAVLRY::ROBR | Jerry was a racecar driver. | Thu Sep 12 1991 05:57 | 5 |
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oh no, the poseur band comes back to life after 5 years :')
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| 168.29 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Carry on, cuz nothing really matters | Thu Sep 12 1991 08:44 | 3 |
| I *like* Europe!!
John Norum (ex git player) was cool
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| 168.30 | Down for the count | JUPITR::BJUBINVILLE | S����L D�St�rT�� | Tue Feb 15 1994 04:11 | 6 |
| Not that I really care but I saw Wayne C's favorite band,
Europe, on VH1 yesterday. It was ummmmmm "The Final Countdown"
I think... I didn't get to ask /wc what happened to them so
does anyone know what happened to them.
BJ
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| 168.31 | CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!! | NEEPS::IRVINE | Sobriety has it's own drawbacks! | Tue Feb 15 1994 04:54 | 6 |
| They got dragged to the tar pits by their ever so loverly hair!
They are / were a lousyband IMHO...
Bonzo
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| 168.32 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Like a cat caught in a vacuum | Tue Feb 15 1994 10:24 | 3 |
| They were too pretty for their own good (or ours). They were
slaughtered by jealous uglies who could not live up to their standard
of beauty.
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| 168.33 | | STKAI2::SPORSEN | piraya club member | Thu Feb 17 1994 03:04 | 7 |
| I saw in a newspaper a couple of weeks ago that they plan to get
together with John Norum again and begin to write and play again.
Don't know how much truth there is in it but....
/P-J
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| 168.34 | Europe rocks! | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Thu Feb 17 1994 05:52 | 5 |
| >I saw in a newspaper a couple of weeks ago that they plan to get
>together with John Norum again and begin to write and play again.
>Don't know how much truth there is in it but....
ROOLIN!!!
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| 168.35 | | GOOEY::JUDY | Love is an angel disguised as lust | Thu Feb 17 1994 07:27 | 3 |
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Dats cool.
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| 168.36 | Where's my can of Poseur-B-Gone?? | GOES11::HOUSE | Like a cat caught in a vacuum | Thu Feb 17 1994 08:48 | 1 |
| STOOLIN!!
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| 168.37 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Sobriety has it's own drawbacks! | Thu Feb 17 1994 08:58 | 11 |
| Europe (The band) have really went down hill since they formed! Here
they were, an up and comming rock band, who couldn't cut it, so
produced such classic chunk blowers as "The Final Countdown".
what can you expect from a band whose vocalist has the term "Tempest"
as a name.....!
Bleck!
bonzo
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| 168.38 | | ICS::WHITMAN | | Thu Feb 17 1994 09:10 | 8 |
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In my best butthead voice..
"No! Stop, in the name of all that does not suck!"
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| 168.39 | | CADSYS::FENNELL | First time in a limousine? Dr? | Thu Feb 17 1994 10:04 | 1 |
| That's too funny Greg...
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| 168.40 | New release....oooeerr | RDGENG::GREID | All that is, was and will be... | Wed Oct 04 1995 01:07 | 3 |
| FWIW Europe seem to have a greatest hits compilation CD out recently.
Giles.
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| 168.41 | THEIR FINAL COUNTDOWN, HAS COME AND GONE... | KDCA01::CDCUP_TORREN | | Wed Oct 04 1995 08:30 | 3 |
| What is it, a one song disc???
Bobby T
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| 168.42 | | HOZHED::FENNELL | A cowboy's life is not for me | Wed Oct 04 1995 08:59 | 5 |
| Yeah
The Final Countdown 1..0
Tim
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| 168.43 | | RDGENG::GREID | All that is, was and will be... | Wed Oct 04 1995 10:14 | 3 |
| I like that....snigger...
Giles.
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| 168.44 | "Wings Of Tomorrow" | CSLALL::PLAFOND | DRILL O' DOOM | Wed Oct 04 1995 13:36 | 7 |
| After John Norum left the band,It all went downhill from there.
Europe wanted to be Popy and Norum wanted to be heavier.
John Norum Smokes on Solo's
Pierre
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| 168.45 | | CSLALL::PLEVINE | | Wed Oct 04 1995 13:55 | 4 |
| Pierre, what does "Popy" mean?
Peter
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| 168.46 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | A swift kick in the butt - $1 | Wed Oct 04 1995 15:14 | 3 |
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I read it as "poppy", like pop-ish, like Top 40.
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| 168.47 | EUROPE ROOLZ | POWDML::BUCKLEY | as if?! | Wed Oct 04 1995 15:26 | 1 |
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| 168.48 | The Final Countdown...whoopie ! | STRATA::LAMOTHE | Crusin' in the '57 chevy | Wed Oct 04 1995 18:27 | 2 |
| they're sheeit. !!!
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| 168.49 | | RDGENG::GREID | All that is, was and will be... | Thu Oct 05 1995 04:28 | 3 |
| John Norums solo album after he quit was actually quite good IMO.
Giles.
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| 168.50 | | ICS::snobrd.pko.dec.com::whitman | | Thu Oct 05 1995 08:22 | 6 |
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dahdahdah dah.. dahdahdah dah dah....
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| 168.51 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Oct 05 1995 08:25 | 8 |
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re-1
eh?whats that supposed to be?
ian
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| 168.52 | | ICS::snobrd.pko.dec.com::whitman | | Thu Oct 05 1995 08:30 | 4 |
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Don't ya know your stinkin Europe songs?!
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| 168.53 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Oct 05 1995 08:42 | 10 |
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yes and I'm very proud of that fact!
you should be ashamed of yourself knowing dung like that!
ian
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| 168.54 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | A swift kick in the butt - $1 | Thu Oct 05 1995 08:58 | 3 |
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I knew what it was, Whitpose.
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| 168.55 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Oct 05 1995 09:31 | 5 |
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thats no compliment! 8)
ian
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| 168.56 | dahdahdah dah = final countdown | EDWIN::HOOKER | | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:48 | 20 |
| My theory as to why Europe kinda disappeared for a while is that
the their over usage of hair styling products, over the course of years,
built up to be such an enormous weight, that they were
trapped underneath their own chemically damaged hair for years. :)
But I did like their Final Countdown album a lot.
Yeh what was their other song, the slow one they had that started out,
ding ding dah ding,
dah dah dah ding,
ding ding dah ding...ding,
la dahdah dahdah dahdah ding dong
dah dah ding dong
dah dah ding dong
or something like that.
Shane, who thought their guitar player ruled...heard him play Flight of
the Bumblebee as a guitar solo...it rocked.
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| 168.57 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:50 | 6 |
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I never heard John Noram but I heard the guy who replaced him and he
was very good!
ian
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| 168.58 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | as if?! | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:04 | 3 |
| John Noram is an excellent player and one of my favourites! He plays a
strat thru a 50wt Marshall and gets that real Euro metal sound ala
His Majesty Herr Schenker!
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| 168.59 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | A swift kick in the butt - $1 | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:15 | 8 |
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RE: Shane
Was it "Carrie"?
I liked "Rock the Night" [or so I think that's what it was called].
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| 168.60 | that's it... | EDWIN::HOOKER | | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:21 | 6 |
| Re: .59
Shawn, yup that was it. Carrie. Yeh I used to know how to play
that whole song on piano...it and final countdown cuz I liked
the keyboard parts.
Shane, who should dust off the keyboard and play it again sometime
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| 168.61 | | KDX200::COOPER | RuffRuff - BowWow! | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:36 | 4 |
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Hmmm - I can play "Final Countdown" on the keys. Thats freaky...
jc
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| 168.62 | | EDWIN::HOOKER | | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:50 | 7 |
| Re: .61
yeh freaky..and for some reason I also learned the keyboard solo to
'Cherokee' too. Dunno guess I was bored when I was growin up. Let's see
when that album came out I was hmmm...14 ? :)
$10
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| 168.63 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Oct 05 1995 13:35 | 5 |
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thats nothing to be proud of! 8)
ian
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| 168.64 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | as if?! | Thu Oct 05 1995 15:14 | 14 |
| Carrie
------
When lights go down
I see no reason
for you to cry
we've been through this before
in every time
in every season
god knows I've tried
so please don't ask for more
can't you see it in my eyes?
that this might be our last goodbye...
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| 168.65 | Oh...BuckYYY | STRATA::LAMOTHE | Crusin' in the '57 chevy | Tue Oct 10 1995 13:21 | 8 |
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.... :-(
I didn't know you cared ? ;-)
/Sax
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| 168.66 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | DILLIGAF | Mon May 06 1996 07:50 | 8 |
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You all must go out and buy "Europe 1982-1992" to see what these
guys are capable of besides "Carrie" and "The Final Countdown".
Some RIPPIN' guitar work from these guys on the 1st couple al-
bums, for sure. 1 song borders on speed metal, but I forgot
what the name of it was.
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| 168.67 | ..better than Ace Frealy! 8) | SUBPAC::GOLDIE | Resident Alien | Thu May 09 1996 12:23 | 5 |
| John Norum was a good player!
ian
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