Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    Cinderfella's new tune on eMpTyV "Gypsy Road" sound a lot like Shake
    Me which is good to me.  A lot of bands have a hit album, and want
    to get "creative" on the next one and make a mess.  I liked Night
    Songs and hopefully this one will carry on where that one left off.
    
    Did anyone notice if they did any guitar tosses on the new video?
    I didn't see any make-up on Mr Kiefer either ... is there a change
    in the wind ???
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
    
    
    	I think that somehwere amongst the 80 odd replies of the
    	Poison note someone mentioned (was it me?) that Cinderella
    	was losing their make up look.
    
    	They got the attention they asked for and now I think 
    	they're concentrating more on their music than their
    	looks...
    
    	Haven't really noticed any guitar tosses in their video,
    	it's mostly scenery and not alot of concert footage...
    
    	/Tig
    

    
    Yo Scary,
    
    Yup, One tossed Les Paul to go in the Gypsy Road video...of course
    just before the guitar solo!
    
    I hate thei new du's...who the hell did they have cut their hair???
    
    *Really* stupid looking!

    Keifer should put the makeup back on. That dude is exceedingly
    UGLY.
    His mouth looks like the mouth on that big green monster in
    Ghostbusters.
    
    
    /Motorbreath...I liked the first album, but I don't care for the
    band anymore.

    re: .4
    
    I agree with ya motor, he's got the dreaded Frehley's disease -
    shot at and missed, %$#@ at and HIT ...............
    
    				Mr Scary II

    re: .3
    
    Totally agree on the HAIR, Buck, really stupid lookin'
    
    I also saw/heard 'Gypsy Rose' (only once, I guess) and initially
    didn't care for it.  Just didn't have any energy, kind of dead.
    
    gh

    
    Doesn't it sound like Keifer burned his voice out on the first tour??
    
    I mean, for a record cut, the vocals sound really strained.
    
    Buck

    His vocals always sound strange !  I think he chain-smokes a few
    cartons before he cranks up the vocals !

    Hell, I like Cinderella okay though... I got the Night Songs video
    tape, and it's not bad...
    
    jc

    
    Hi there,
    
             I have just recorded 'Long Cold Winter' and it is certainly
    in a different vain from 'Night Songs'.
     
             It is certainly very bluesy and lacks the immediate punch
    of 'Night Songs' but is nonetheless already sounding good on my
    stereo after a couple of plays, although apart from 'Gypsy Road'
    and 'Fallin' Apart At The Seams' i didn't know what to make of it
    after the first time round. Some of it is very Aerosmithy. The
    title track 'Long Cold Winter' is about as bluesy a track as i have
    heard for a long time.
    
             Here is the track listing :-
    
                    Side 1 :           Bad Seamstress Blues
                                       Fallin' Apart At The Seams
                                       Gypsy Road
                                       Don't Know What You Got 
                                                (til it's Gone)
                                       The Last Mile
                                       Second Wind
    
                    Side 2 :           Long Cold Winter
                                       If You Don't Like It
                                       Coming Home
                                       Fire & Ice
                                       Take Me Back
    
          Although i havent really got into most of it yet, and as much
    as i enjoyed both 'Night Songs' the album and the video, i don't
    think that 'Long Cold Winter' will be as successfull ( but this
    is only on first impressions).
    
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

    
     Cinderella's new opus is brilliant, i reckon certain press and
    otheres that have slagged it off will be eating their words in the
    near future. It takes a couple of plays but is certainly very classy
    and well structured. Yes Tom Keifer's voice sounds a little strained
    but you don't really notice it. It certainly doesn't spoil the album
    at all. There isn't a bad track on the album.
    
                
     Nuff' Said.!
    
    Prince of the Dawn.

    
  -1 �  Nuff' Said.!
        
    quite....

Cinderella was awesome- saw them Tuesday nite.
    Talked with Eric Brittingham backstage between sets.
    Very cool guy. To bad they have to open for a band like Judas Priest.
    They played a 10 song set- one hour long
    Priest didn't impress me at all this tour around- sorry
    

    RE .12 & .14 
             
    
    Yea, I was at the Centrum Tuesday night too - EXCELLENT show!
    
    From a non Cinderella fanatic - I was not impressed with them at
    all.  
    
    I do like a *few* of their songs but when I saw the show - yuk.  
    The rowdiest moment of their show was when they did Zeppelin (my 
    mind is drawing a blank on the song). Other than that - they were    
    pretty boring - and the crowd was pretty mello (compaired to any
    other concert i've been to).
    
    
    As for Judas Priest . . . 
    
    
    
    They Were EXCELLENT !  I had never seen them in concert before and
    I was very impressed - their show was fantastic !
    
    sc  
    

    a couple notes back...
    
    TOO BAD THEY HAD TO OPEN UP FOR PRIEST???? Judas Priest, may not
    do too good of a live show, but they are legends. They have let
    the times change them though, but still, give them a break, go directly
    to the apology note!!!
    
    As for Cinderella. Guess you've just got to have a musical ear.
    All heavy metal does not have to sound the same. His voice is his
    voice. Don Dokken doesn't have a particularly strong voice, but
    it sounds good, and I've heard Robert Plant crack his voice one
    too many times, and it was accepted.  Cinderella is an up and coming
    band, with a style all their own, and they've definetly sparked
    my interest just because of that reason!!
    
    I think the new album is great and [first name??::GREID] <- I liked
    very much what you had to say, I'll go with what you said. SAME
    HERE!!!!

    I like Cinderella, but the song "Nobody's Fool" reminds me of this
    chick that I broke up with after some high infidelity. Oh well good
    tune anyway. 
    
    trivia : what was Cinderella's real first name?
    
    devil dog
    
    
    
    

    
        I heard 'Seamstress Blues/Falling Apart at the Seams' today,
        and it kicks butt!!
    
        I almost wish he woulda continued singing in the initial style
        rather than switching over to his usual 'Metal voice' - sound-
        ed great!!
    
                                                       GTI

    
    
        WBCN plays "Seamstress Blues/Falling Apart at the Seams' alot,
        I agree he starts out with such a great voice IMO and then switches
        over to his HM voice.  I think I would like the song that much
        more if he would just stay with the initial style he starts
        the song out with.
    
        Rae

    
        Think we could get wjb and 'Con' to do a cover of this
        song?  Maybe if we asked nice?
    
        8^)
    
                                                       GTI
    
        P.S.  Besides those 2 songs, I'm not incredibly impressed with
              the album - TOO bluesy.  A BIG change from 'Night Songs'.
    

      >      Think we could get wjb and 'Con' to do a cover of this
      >      song?  Maybe if we asked nice?
           
    I thot they didn't do covers (except for Satriani...)?
    
    gh

    
    
    	Babies abound!!
    
    	Eric Brittinham and wife just had a baby girl on 
    	August 14...they named her Tara.
    
    	Tig~~
    

    
    
    	I thought it was kind  of neat that a guy in this
    	month's Metal Edge has a WAAF tee-shirt on.  Caption
    	says he's one of Fred Coury's good buddies.
    
    	Yahoo for AAF!!!
    
    	tig~~
    

    
    		i'll say a little bit on behalf on CINDY!!
    	they definitely got it together for LONG COLD WINTER, i love
    	all the bluesy tunes and i think that the big change from NIGHT
    	SONGS is a sign of professionallism (sp.).
    		I saw them at an outdoors concert in LEGEND VALLEY in
    	OHIO w/ bonjovi and they sounded superb. were talking almost
    	a square mile open field with 75,000 hot,wet fans....WE CAME,
    	WE SAW, WE KICKED YOUR ASS... and they did! for the last encore
    	JOVI had CINDY come back out on stage w/them and they all joined
    	in to do a cover of TRAVELIN BAND(C.C.R.) it was great, TOM
    	and JON sharing the same mike....ohhhhhhhhhh.....
    		I also just saw their LONG COLD WINTER tour w/AC/DC
    	and was even more impressed w/ their show, it seemed like they
    	split their song list right down the middle. half of their set
    	was tunes from NIGHT SONGS and the other half from L.COLD WINTER
    	which to me, coundn't have been thought out any better... all
    	the tunes that i wanted to hear which very seldom ever happens
    	when you go to a show... they usually always leave out a couple
    	of tunes that you may have wanted to hear....
    
    			as for LONG COLD  WINTER.....
    			5 *'s from this kid, keep it up CINDERELLA
    
    							JAM
    

    My opinion?   I don't really care for Cinderella.  I think they're
    Aerosmith clones and would prefer to listen to the original.
    
    gh

    Gotta agree with ya there gh!
    I must say that they are one of the worst opening acts I've ever
    seen.  Saw them with priest and with Roth.
    
    Did anyone see them at the  Priest show reciently at the centrum.
    That was me that ugly lead singer was trying to pick a fight with
    for flipping him off.  
    
    Hey, if I think they stunk, I had every right to flip him the bird.
    
    Steve O

    Yeah, but do you actually call that singing Pete??
    
    CJ

    My two cents....
    
    I was not impressed by either their Judas Priest or their David
    Lee Roth tour.  They were kinda boring....
    
    
    The Sentinel
    

re: .4,.15, and .25-31
    
    All you so called metal critics out there can go kiss my a*s! Regarding
    his looks, they're fine! His hair is great, and who needs make-up
    anyway? You wanna see ugly, then look at Slash, but leave Keifer
    alone! What do looks have to do with guitar playing and vocals anyway?
    
    As for their bluesy tone on their new album, it is a new direction
    for the band. Great rock -n- roll was inspired by blues. For those
    who doubt their metal punch, one can look to their First album "Night
    Songs". As for being called Aerosmith clones, everyone has been
    inspired by some artist.
    
    To insult Cinderella in concert is the most stupid statement ever.
    The energy they display playing live in concert is incredible! The
    interaction with the crowd was great. They played ever song you
    wanted to hear, and they played it with enthusiasm. Those who insult
    Cinderella's concert performance have either never heard them or
    were too gone to remember much. So in closing, if you don't like
    Cinderella, you don't like Heavy Metal.
    
    
    Cinderella is God,
    
      Nemesis
    

    I like heavy metal, but I don't like Cinderella too much.
    
    I have seen them and even bought Night Songs, which was pretty good,
    especially the title track.  I just can't get into them at
    all anymore.
    
    Easy now.
    You're gonna give yourself high blood pressure.
    
    Dilly

                
                Re: .32
                
                OH PLEASE!!!!!!!
                
                You SHOULD  be  saying,  "If you LIKE Cinderella,
                you DON'T like  Heavy  Metal!" (or you like other
                things besides heavy metal . . .)
                
                Anyway, maybe they give  a good stage performance
                with lots of energy and audience interaction, but
                that's only half of the show,  the  music  is the
                other hald which is where they fall  far short or
                a good performance . . . poseurs . . .
                
                Kill with power!!!!
                
                - The Wraith -
                
                

re: .32

Please try and respect the opinions of others in this conference. We all
have various tastes - you may agree with some, and disagree with 
others. But please do so in a friendly and non-oofensive manner.

Thanks,
Alan Starr
Co-Moderator

    Very good, Al!
    
    How'd *that* feel?
    
    Awright Pete, you tell him.
    
    We arn't having any of that name-calling and judgement-making in
    HM anymore.
    
    I have seen, heard and watched on Mtv- Cinderella.  I thought
    Shake Me was the greatest, and then **IMO** it's been a swift
    decline. But that's only *My opinion.*
                                
    And I like Heavy Metal just fine, thank you.
                                          
    And *IMO* Tom Keifer is horrifying to look at.  Once again, my opinion,
    there are plenty of girls drooling over those big, spitty lips
    (eeeelllll, I'm giving myself the willies...) just not me.
    
    Dilly

    Well, I gotta agree with Robin, somewhat.
    
    Cinderella has a couple of good tunes, but hot, rip_your_gnads_off
    music it's not.  I feel Cinderella is sorta bubble-gum music.  I
    mean Burger King sponsored them for gawd sake !
    
    Like I said, I do like a couple of their tunes (only from the first
    album)...Some are pretty raw.  I have both albums and the Night
    Songs Video...And 2EZ even does (did?) a tune from Night Songs.
    
    jc

                
                Robin???
                
                OH, NO!!  What did Mom start???
                
                :`)
                
                NObody's called me that in a LONG time!
                
                - The Wraith -
                
                

    Don't know what you got (till it's gone) comes out in the UK on
    Feb 20.  B-side has Fire and Ice, 12" has Push-Push and the 12"
    gatefold also has Once around the ride (Live).
    
    There supposed to be touring the UK later this year, stay tuned.
    
    
    Flip

    Saw Cinderella at december 20th as opening act from scorpions in
    Frankfurt /germany. They did a good job although they wasn't mixed
    up very well. They played all the stuff from the 'Long cold winter'-
    alb...so far...before this day I never heard something from Cindi
    but at the 21th dec I bought the LCW-alb and a Maxi with 'don't know
    what you got' on the a-side, b-side is 'Jumpin Jack Flash' and 'Nobodys
    fool' both of them are live.

    sr

     	I have had both albums on tape for about 3 (three III) months
    now and I tend to agree with the general consensus, they do have
    some killer tunes but not as jammin as they could be. Shake Me and
    Falling Apart At The Seams are both high energy songs but the keyboard
    level is so low that it's almost inauditable(sp?). Are they afraid that
    a loud jammin keyboard will lower their HM status?
    
    						Ray
    

    Just a quick review before I have to hit the road for the day
    
    	Bullet Boys - the sound wasnt' mixed right and had alot of feedback
    		      plus someone should tell their lead singer that
    		      he aint no DLR not even close.  luckily they were
    		      only on stage for 20 minutes.
                                                   
    	Winger	    - pretty good show, the music was excellent and
    		      Kip winger does know how to work a crowd and keep
    		      the show moving.  They were on for about 45 minutes.
    
    	Cinderella  - Not to bad for there first headline tour.  The
    		      sound was right on the money and they didn't use
    		      to much in the way of special effects.  Just let
    		      the music do the talking.  they were probably
    		      on for about an hour and a half.
    
    	�Rock Brigador�            

    
    Did anyone hear about the keyboardist for Cinderella?  He got busted
    for possession of cocaine and marijuana.  He was put in jail and
    released on $25,000 bond.
    
    Gee, I never would have thought Cinderella did drugs!
    
    jab
    

    I don't believe Cinderella has a keyboardist. If they do it is probably
    a roadie filling in backstage. I belive the band is clean. 
    
    But then again....

    
    I don't !!

    
    The keyboardist that got busted was hired by Cinderella to perform
    with them just on this tour.
    
    I found out that Cinderella is playing in Atlanta AGAIN.  I promise
    you, this is at least the 4th time they have played here since their
    new album came out.
    
    jab
    

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    I was pretty shocked with how good Cinderella was in concert. Damn
    nearly upstaged   /
                    AC\DC.
    
                      /

    RE.15
    
    Well I saw that show too and thought that Cinderella blew Judas Priest
    away!!!!!!!
    

    
    	RE: .56
    
    	I'd have a hard time believing that.
    
    	Judas Priest ROOLZ live!!
    
    							GTI
    

I have a hard time beliveing that too.  Cinderella couldn't blow out a candle...

gh

                                                                  
    What with Priest playing, you wouldn't know where the 
    candle *is* ;^)

    Cinderella "blowing" Priest (away) may have worked out well for all
    parties concerned.     ;^)
    
    Seriously, Priest could strike 1 (count 'em, 1 !) power chord and
    splatter make up and mousse for 3 blocks !  "Somebody Saaaaeyaave
    Meah", you better believe it !
    
    Scary

    Priest is good, but don't discount Cinderella...on the LCW tour,
    they really got their act together and are actually a very cool 
    band these days.  I, for one, can't wait to see what the next 
    album holds...I think it will be pretty cool.

    "Night Songs" is still one of my favorite albums, but "LCW" just didn't
    ring any bells for me.  Hopefully the 3rd one will be a charm !
    
    Scary

    
    
    I'm just the opposite Scary.   I really enjoy "LCW", "Night Songs"
    doesn't do much for me with the exception of a couple of songs.
    
    Looking forward to the 3rd one.
    
    Renee

    
    
    	I'm just the opposite Rae.  I really enjoy "NS", "LCW"
    	doesn't do much for me with the exception of a couple
    	of songs.
    
    	Looking forward to the 3rd one ...too.
    
    
    	(8 (8 (8 (8
    
    	Tigga~~~~agrees with Scary  

    I'm just the opposite Tigga, I liked a few tunz offa "NS", but
    "LCW" really did it for me.
    
    B., also looking forward to the 3rd one

    Thanks Buck, I knew there was a reason I liked you.  8^)
    
    What do people think of Cinderella's live performance??  I've never
    seen them but I'd like to. 
    
    Renee

    
    
    	Okay!  That's it!!!  Me and Scary against Buck and Rae.
    	We'll kick tushie Scary! (8 (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    Wagagagaga .... that's noy fair though ... if Buck's wearing "those
    white jeans" you'd probably throw the fight !	8^)
    
    Scary (who ain't fightin' with Buck until he gets his Marshall T shirt!)
    

    
    
    >Wagagagaga .... that's noy fair though ... if Buck's wearing "those
    >white jeans" you'd probably throw the fight !	8^)
    
    Ooooh, yessss!  I would!  ;)  Actually, I'll be the referee since I don't 
    like neither of the albums.  ;)
    
    J-Dot        

    
    	RE: Scary
    
    	Hmmmm....that's a tough one.  Hmmm.... I'll get back to you
    	on that one.  (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    I cannot pronounce myself between NS and LCW as I only know the last
    one. I quite like LCW (LCW itself and "Fire and ice") but it's not my
    very favourite. But they are good in any case.
    
    Sorin (who choosed between LCW and LCW)

    Tony got me thinkin ...
    
    Has anybody heard if they have a new album out, or coming out ?  This
    tour will be about the 3rd trip for "Long Cold Winter", won't it ?
    
    I'd love to see them do an album in the same vein as the first one -
    that album kicked !!!  Well, it did until the radio and MTV wore it out
    ...
    
    Scary (o'll never sing another Cinderfella song ...)

    Has anyone heard this new song by Cinderella, it was on the radio down
    here but I never caught the name of it...its kinda up beat not really
    what you would expect from the big C. The song even had horns and
    backing singers (chorus like, ya know) . Anyone heard of it???
    
    
                                   The "B."
    
    

    is that shelter??
    
    isnt that another remake of a song??
    
    		wendy o'
    

    The song is called "Shelter Me".
    
    I think it's GREAT!  Cinderella was like an "eh" band with Night Songs,
    and then they went pseudo-blues with LCW, but some of the songs on LCW
    really suck!  I think they have finnaly carved a nice R&R niche for
    themselves.  The horns and female-background-singers-of-color add a
    great touch to a nitty gritty R&R band like Cinderella!  Can't wait for
    the CD!
    
    B.

    
    	I think the arragements were done by John Paul Jones.
    
    	- Jim

    
    Has anyone mentioned that their new album has just been released?  
    
    Flip

    I loved the first album ... the 2nd album was lame .... I'm curious to
    hear this one.  
    
    "Shelter Me" didn't knock my sock off, but I usually wear the knee high
    athletic type tucked in snakeskins ... it would be kinda tough !  8^)
    
    Scary (who'll NEVER sing "Save Me" again ... NEVER !)

    The new album is called:
    
    
    "I gargle with broken glass and sing through my nose... SO THERE!!!"
    
    
    Ok so I'm taking the micky...
    
    8*)
    Bonzo

>    Scary (who'll NEVER sing "Save Me" again ... NEVER !)
    
    "Somebodddeeeee SAAAAAAAAVEEEE...ACK {cough, cough}  
    
    GEEZ! Izzat a piece of LUNG?!?"
    
    ;^)
    
    gh

    I guess Coop told ya about it, huh ?   8^)
    
    
    Scary ...

    THAT Shelter song.. was that a remake or what??
    
    OR WAS it just ripped off from MIDNIGHT SPECAIL and they put 
    their name on it????
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    

Like Slaughter, Cinderella also cancelled their European tour, because of
the possibilities of terrorism.

alan

    
     That it sad to hear. It looks like people are falling prey to
    terrorist activity, exactly what he wants. The world cannot live
    in fear because of the war.
                                 mike
    

    
    Phew, Lucky I saw them before they cancelled.
    

       Well I finally saw Cinderella.....
    
               I have to say when I first hear NIGHT SONGS I was
    lovin' it!!
    
        But after many years and a couple of so-so albums 
    I'm kinda dissapointed in them.
      Review:
               The mix was very poor.....lights were cool and Jeff LaBAR
    was really cool to watch.
    
         They seem to do better with their older material.....
           Tom Keifer tried way too hard to act like Steven Tyler...
      Fred's Drum solo was LAME!(nice light show though)
      It sounded like Moby Dick from LZ...
            How can I give respect to a guy that doesn't even play on the 
    albums?.?
        Eric====boring!
     Now to the best part of the show:
    
                JEFF LABAR!!!
       What a cool guy with monster stage presence and moves.....
     He was sooo cool to watch!!!!
       He is in the WRONG band!!!
                 I'd go just to see him play again....Too bad he gets
    cheated out of solos.
    
             Overall not a real cool show.....
    (The guitarist in my band fell asleep during Cindarella)
    
                 Frizkid
    
     

    Jeff LaBar can be a jerk, tho.  When I met him, I wanted to chat
    equipment, but it was like talking to a bucket of wet plaster!
    
    
    When he walked out on stage, his fx rack was screwing up, or his
    amps, or something.  He changed guitars...still screwing up...
    he had a cord changed...stikl screwing up...so he takes his
    curly maple Les off and WINGS it into his stack of Marshalls like the
    cry baby he was and storms off stage!
    
    I have no respect for people like that

    What happened to these guys?  They're playing a *club* here in Phoenix
    tonight.
    
    Mike

    They played at Dallas City Limits this tuesday!  
    
    DYHIW...you missed it??!!  *8(

    Cinderella is in writing mode now with their next album due out by the
    end of the year.  Drummer Fred Curry left the band....
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    Fred has one of the best attitudes in Rock-N-Roll. No wonder he left
    the band.

    He has to have the best attitude is R&R....He can't play!
           Frizkid
    

    
    After Heartbreak Station...who would want to be heard from if you were
    connected to that atrosity?

    
    Cinderella is a great band. Sorry, I had to say it.

    
    I liked Night Songs, in fact I have that and Long Cold Winter, but HS
    was crap.

    There were some really good songs on LCW, but they weren't very
    consistant throughout the album, and I thought the recording/mix
    was way lame!

    
    I bought the album because of Coming Home. There are a few good songs,
    but the rest were sorta..'thrown on' for the sake of meeting a quota or
    something..

    
    
    	I've got Night Songs and that's when they really had potential
    	to "be somebody" ...good album!
    
    	But the rest sort of went downhill. )8
    
    	Pity.
    
    	tigg~~~~

    I agree Cinderelly went down hill after Night Songs.
    
                     Frizkid
    

    Cinderella will always be cool in my book.  I've always been a HUGE fan
    of them.

Well, I guess I'm once again on the wrong side of the fence - I think the
band has gotten better with each album! I didn't like 'Night Songs' that
much (ok, not great). 'Long Cold Winter' was a big improvement, and I think
'Heartbreak Station' is their best yet!

Definitely a way-cool band in my book!

alan

    
    
    AAACCKK!! (insert Bucks cool picture) 
    
    
    They blew it! The 1st album was killer, then they went downhill...
    
    I'll be VERY surprised if they make a comeback... The last album
    Inhaled BIG TIME! (IMO)
    
    
    JW- (trying to keep the rest of his lunch down!)

    
    
    I love Cinderella! Heartbreak Station is awesome!!!!
    
    ME

       Cinderella has a new tune off of the new soundtrack for
    the new movie out called Wayne's World.  The song is called
    Hot and Bothered.  I debuted on WAAF's Rock Wars tonight up
    agaianst Mr. Big.  I don't know who won but tune into WAAF, 107.3
    tomorrow night at 10:45pm for the song if they one.  I liked and
    I can't wait for their next album.
    
    Huey

    
    Cinderella roolz. They used the poseur crowd to make it then shed it.

    
    As long as they don't produce another album such as HS, then it should
    be good.
    
    Hopefully a return to NS or at least LCW status.

    Pete, You know your wrong...I went to their concert...POSEUR GALORE!
         Their album sells are on a steady DECLINE.
               Their music still poser it's just bad posering.
    
              Frizkid
    
                      

    I like the new Cinderella song...Hot & Bothered.  Plus the video pretty
    cool.  It has Wayne and Garth in it.  What surprised me is Fred is 
    in the video....
    
     Frizkid
    

    I like the new Cinderella tune too...sounds more like their NIGHT SONGS
    days!

I've heard bits and pieces of the song and I liked it too...  But I've
always liked them.

Tim

    
    
    	RE: Fred being in the video
    	
    	I was trying to figure that out myself. I thought I read in
    	here somewhere that he (or the other guy with the steel
    	wool hair) left?!
    
    	tigg~~~

    The new dirt is that Stephan Percy and Fred Curry are forming a band
    now that Ratt is caput! 
           Take about a band I'm NOT looking forward too.
    Buck:It does sound more like the Night Song dayz...That exactly what
    *I*  said after I heard it.
    
                      Frizkid
    

    Percy and Curry?!?
    
      _    /|   
      \'o.O'    
      =(___)=   MAJOR fackin Aack!!!
         U      
    
    
    Buck, feeling ill

    I don't really ko anything about Curry but Percy is "Prattzilla",king
    of all that is stupid in this world.....8)
    
    
    
                                             staynz

    Well,well,well  I guess we do agree on something every once in awile.
    
             Frizkid..Who wanted to puke when he heard this.
    

    I liked the single "a little shelter" from the last album,but Steven
    Percy is a bona fide spamhead!
    
    
                                           staynz

    I saw part of the vid for the new Cinderella song from the Wayne's
    World soundtrack and, get this...I actually liked it.  It might burn
    out on me, but on first listen I'd give it a thumbs up.
    
    gh

    What is UP with these guys?
    
        Friz
    

    They suck and their genre is dead.
    
    gh

    
    friz, go try out for em!  
    
    

    NEVER!!!!!!!
    
     Greg....You suck and your genre is dead. That's why you're so full of
    angst.
    
     Friz
    

    
    These guys blow. Heartbreak station was the pits.
    

    Gypsey road was ok but Tom Keiffers' voice gets on my wick in a big
    way!
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    
    Long Cold Winter was pretty good for a Posuer record. 
    
    

    I listen to"Nite_Songs"now and then.
    
     
    
                     Crazy_No_Bodies_Fool_Al
    

    
    	"Night Songs" hasn't left my car CD player for about 3 weeks
    	now!!
    
    	[Of course, that was when my amp blew up, and I haven't used
    	the stereo since.  8^)]
    
    							GTI

    Agreed -- Night Songs roolz, too bad they totally lost it after that.

    
    ..hold on to your pants.Cinderella release a new album later this year.
    I know for sure that this has certainly brightened up my day...! ;^)
    
    
    
    						ian

    Cinderella are currently auditioning new drummers for their forthcoming
    tour.  Interesting process, however -- the initial phase is being done
    via the Internet!!!  
    
    So here's your chance, Rob -- go for it!
    ;')

    
    Where on Internet?

    
    yeah, where on internet :').
    
    

    donno -- heard it on aaf (actually had a detailed report on it).
    
    maybe some of the music-related groups on the net would have a clue?

    
    oops... ill post the info here...
    
    you need to upload a .WAV file of your drumming by Oct 7th to the
    compuserve RECORDING INDUSTRY forum.  Then someone (I dont know who)
    judges all the entries and the winner gets to audition for Cinderella.
    
    so, its not the internet, its compuserve, entirely different.
    

    Did these guys ever have a real drummer, or did they use studio guys
    that weren't really in the band and hire others for touring?
    
    gh

    
    good question... beats the hell out of me... i remember hearing about
    that...
    
    

    First off, the only dudes in Conderella signed to the contract is
    singer/guitarist Tom whatshisface and the stupid looking bassist
    dude.  The lead guitarist and drummer were "hired hands in the band".
    
    Their producer, Andy Johns, would not allow the drummer to record,
    as he didn't like his style.  Hence, records were made with studio
    musicians, while that Fred Curry guy had his mug on the albums and
    did the tours.  Fred eventually got booted from the band, and here 
    we are...
    
    Fred is now playing with another booted band member, Steven Pearcy of
    Ratt (talk about a loser band!).

    
    Has anyone heard the new album since it was released !?
    
    Giles.
    
    

    
    	Geez, we haven't heard from YOU since their 1st album was re-
    	leased!!
    

    whats it called and when did it come out?

    re .139
    
    Well well, I'd almost forgotten that you had a sense of humour.... 8-P
    
    Yeah, I'm still around, but not many others are now
    
    re .140
    
    Can't remember the title, the album covers got a concept sort of a
    cover with a ladder as the main feature, title's something like
    "Still Climbing" or "Still Standing". Then again maybe not.
    
    Giles.   8-)                                       

    
    FWIW - in the end I did pick up a copy of Still Climbing. Not
    	being the greatest fan of their last release, I didn't know
    	what to expect, but I like this album, it was worth the dosh.
    	It's a pity that they didn't carry on in the Night Songs style
    	though, although saying that Long Cold Winter was good too.
    
    	Giles.

     
         I remember a while back I caught their singer on
    a local radio station saying that MTV told them not to
    bother making a video and that their style was dead.
    The singer (sounding bummed) was like "(MTV), Don't you
    even want to hear the album?"  
    
         I'd say it's safe to forge an answer to that question.
    
    Kev --
    

    
    	Giles!!  Where've you been?
    

    Shawn,  in the same place too long... 8-)
    
    Giles.

    
    	I picked up "Still Climbing" ... got it from the record club last
    	night, but haven't gotten to it yet.  [Too many CD's, too little
    	time.]
    
    	Has anyone except Giles heard it?  How is it?
    

    
    	I got it 2 months ago and was not much impressed by the whole CD.
    
    	I still prefer Night Songs or Long Cold Winter.
    
    	Still, it contains a couple of good ballads...
    
    Fred.

    
    	Good ballads?  No such thing.
    
    	8^)