Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    I think the Headbangers Ball is a 2 hour show.  I always put it
    on video because you can learn some good licks from watching it.
    I have noticed that it's usually better when they have a guest VJ
    that's in a metal band rather than one of the "regulars" because
    they don't get into metal too much.  MTV put it to a vote whether
    they played too much HM and all the Belinda Carlysle fans spent
    megabucks calling in - so we get ours from 12 - 2 am.  That's fine,
    as long as we get it.  I don't watch MTV much since they had their
    little election, Johnny Hates Jazz, Scary Hates Top 40.
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
      The headbangers ball is on for 3hrs. from 12:00 till 3:00
    they almost always play the same thing until aruond 2:15
    when they start pleying newer bands.
    
    About the no H-M they don't play it often but did you ever notice
    that the top ten countdown for the last year or so has been about
    7 out of 10 vids.were metal now what is it the people realy want.
    
    
    					M
    					 B
    

    Yeah, I've noticed that too.  But the Top 10 Countdown never has
    any of the hard core metal bands - just the aluminum ones like Poison,
    Crue (the new stuff), Whitesnake (the new stuff), and DLR (..opinion
    set hidden ..).  It's better than nothing though, I'd rather see
    Poison than MJ or Whitney Houston.
    
    
    					Mr Scary II

    I Got an Idea, but I'll Need your help......
    
         Lets take over MTV and all us heavy Metal muther Fu@*-ers
     
        will change the sweet inocent Mtv to  H M T V 
    
        "Yes You Wanted it You Got Heavy Metal Television"
    
         with special guest vj'..The Few the Proud DEC'S HOTTEST
    
         NOTES FILE members    US!      lets   do   it !
    
    
                                          JIM...TAMA

    Yeah, Good idea Jim.
    
    RE.1 AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH...Johnny Hates Jazz makes me *PUKE*!!!!!!
    What is that guy (the lead singer), some sort of lobotomy reject???
     All those *holes* in his forehead...  And what kinda name is that
    anyway???!??  PLEASE, JW, don't say it again!
    
    gh

    1000 apologies.  If we ran HMTV would we "have" to show a few hours
    of top 40 way in the middle of the night ???  How about from 3 to
    3:15 am on Tuesdays ???
    
    
    					Mr Scary II

    I tend to like the music that MTV uses when they're going to
    or coming from a commercial break. That's headbanging.
    They should also have a request phone #
    
    -Rey

    I notice that it's really repetative from week to week. So watching
    it once every few weeks will let you know what's gonna be on.  The
    guy with the big white hair and white suit with black leather jacket
    cracks me up, "Now I'm not telling you no trash, this is the place
    to listen to thrash, hallaleua".  Too bad it's not true...  Only
    thing I've seem on there that's thrash would be a couple of Megadeath
    vids.
    
    gh

    What do you call pop thrash?
    
    I know most of the real thrash bands (Anthrax, Metallica) don't
    make videos.  Would probably just be a waste of $, since most video
    stations wouldn't play them anyway.
    
    gh

    Anthrax has a least 2 vids. Indians and I'm the Man.
    Also saw one from Testament if I remember correctly.

    
    re -1  
    
     What????  I swear i saw Anthrax on the headbangers ball doing "I'm
    the Man", and they also hosted the show about 2 months ago. They
    were a riot.
    
    /Bill u.
    

    My mistake!  Sorry, you are correct, Anthrax DOES have videos. 
    I did hear that Metallica *will not* make videos (it was second
    hand from a friend, so consider the source).  I've also seen Indians,
    don't remember I'm the Man though.
    
    gh 

    
    
    Re .7
    
      The songs going and coming from commercials are by S.O.D.  S.O.D. was
    discussed in an earlier note.  A one-time project by Scott and Charlie
    from Anthrax with ex-Anthrax, now Nuclear Assault bassist Dan Lilker.
    The vocals were handled by Billy Milano, now singing for M.O.D.

                                                                           
      Besides "I'm the Man" and "Indians", Anthrax also has a video for
    "Madhouse".  I was told MTV won't show it.  I saw it before and there's
    really nothing bad about it!  They have a video cassette also, but it
    hasn't been released yet.
    
    
    Paul
    

    It's taken me a while to reply to this note, but if you read my
    intro note, you know what I think about MTV.
    	It sucks.
    
    I've actually been home once or twice when the 'Ball is on, and
    I've caught some of it. Of course, instead of seeing some mean
    "HEADBANGER" music, what do I see? Lita Ford (whose vid is on 
    150 times a day), Whitesnake (ditto), DLR (dittoX2), etc. etc.
    And a FEW videos by artists you rarely see. A "headbanger" would
    probably fall asleep waiting for something to bang his head to.
    
    Face it. MTV bites a**, and basically is a KISS-108 video station.
    When is Casey Casem going to have his own MTV show?
    
    	They classify headbanging music from anything that's harder
    than "Saw Him Standing There" by that little red-head puke.
    
    	MTV is nothing but ONE big commercial...fashion...fad...trend...
    dance lesson station for the 14-16 year old set.
    
    	Why can't they do a hard-core cutting-edge controversial
    heavy-metal/hardcore show? What the hell, I've got to stay up
    late to watch the only show worth watching on the station anyway.
    At least then I'd maybe respect them a LITTLE.
    
    
    /Motorbreath...says "oh boy, DON'T GET ME STARTED!"

    	I had my VCR programmed to tape the banger's ball every saturday
    night but after watching the tapes the past few weeks, I think I'll
    just watch the same tape over and over and reprogram my machine
    to tape Donahue or something.  EmptyV, no truer words have ever
    been spoken (besides my personal name ...)
    
    
    					Mr Scary II

    
    
    You guys have got it good!!!!
    
    we have hardly any metal-TV over here.  Our most POPular program
    is TOP OF THE POPS and is totally s***.  The heaviest thing I've
    ever seen on there is the odd Anthrax video and I once saw WASP
    live on it.  The rest of the time its full of Tiffiny, Pet Shop
    Pratts etc..
    
    There is one quite good programme called No Limits which show only
    rock/AOR but doesn't show any thrash/speed.  Thats the best we've
    got !!!
    
    
    -Tony

    Well...after reading the replys here...
    
    I watch at least part of the HBB most Sat nights.  While the title
    is probably wrong, the fare is much better than the typical MTV
    vids, not to mention that other pansy *^& video station that stays
    on the tube about long enough for me to press the 'down channel'
    button on the rmt control.
    
    Not to condone calling it 'headbangers ball', but face it, MTV most
    of the time is functionally unwatchable.
    
    gh

    
    
    	Well, I must say that I don't think MTV is so awful it's
    	unwatchable, but I do think they need more HM and more 
    	hard rock.
    
    	In an article I read, the Crue said they wouldn't give
    	MTV any more of their videos because MTV refuses to play
    	them anyways!!
    
    	It could be worse, y'know.  They could have NO HM or 
    	hard rock at all.  They COULD become another VH-1.
    
    	THAT would be unwatchable....
    
    ./kimster
    

    
    
    How can anybody like a station that practices discrimination???
     They think that all who listen to HM are constantly doped out.
     They had a special on the effects of HM on kids, talk about one
    sided and what is all this "the votes are in, no heavy metal and
    more popular music" stuff???  When did they have a vote???  I dont
    rember it, I never ever heard it mentioned on the show.  Mtv is
    a yuppie...pop...flashy...phoney station who does what parents want
    them to do and not thier viewing audience..
    
    Take my advice, dont waste your time watching it.
    
    Brian
    

    
    
    
    
    	Here is the address for MTV....I say pick up the
    	pens and paper and start writing away telling them
    	exactly how you feel!!!!!
    
    			MTV
    			1775 Broadway
    			New York, NY 10019

    	/tig!
    

    All right! Ang how about all of you calling in to MTV's dial MTV
    a for 'trial by fire' by testament THE only HEAVY metal on HBB!
    
    Dave
    

    
    	
    	Dave?!  I bet your dad is Gene, eh?
    
    	anyways...anybody catch the HBB this past weekend??  I 
    	taped it on the good ole VCR and as I was watching it 
    	yesterday afternoon, I made a few mental comments that I
    	want to add here.
    
    	 Heard a song by Winger called "Madelaine"....pretty good. 
    	 (IMO)  Anybody else think so?
    
    	Also saw the lead singer for Femme Fatale (what's her name?)
    	Stacie, you thought Lita was a sleaze?  Wait till you see
    	THIS one!
    
    	There were a few other notes I had made, but forgot most of
    	them when I left my bed this morning....when and if I remember,
    	I'll post them.
    
    	Tig~~
    
    
    	

    
    	
    	Took you long enough to comment, Pete!
   	(PS.  I think we're the only ones here today)
    
    	She's pretty, I'll give her that much credit,
    	but ay yi yi....the outfit has GOT to go!  (^;
    
    	Tig~~
    

      RE: 	(PS.  I think we're the only ones here today)
         
    Give us a break...it's MONDAY (picture faint strains of scary music
    here)
    
    Havn't seen Femme Fatal yet, but I have seen that vid by Winger.
    I liked it too.  Nothing that I recall being incredible,
    instrumentally, but seemed to have good energy.  A fun song.
    
    gh

re: Femme Fatale

Give me a break! The biggest selling point of this band is the looks of
the singer. And if that is the best part about the band, it doesn't 
really say too much for them, huh?

cat

P.S. If I see one more pouting, spandex-wearing, blonde singer in a video,
     I'm gonna scream! Why can't they just let the music talk, like it 
     should! They should take cues from bands like Warlock - the music is
     what's important!

    What's the deal here ??   If you saw the singerFemme Fatale or Lita 
    Ford out at a concert that'd be fine, BUT up on stage .... there's
    plenty of room for the gals IMO.  Look at JonBonGarbage, the band
    is *fair* but BJ's (no pun intended ..) looks and moves and all
    that sell to the ladies.  It's a business let's face it, and flesh
    sells !
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

        RE: Femme Fatale
    
            Sorry Alan - I think she's incredible, and she can sing
            for me as often as she wants (and she won't have to keep
            'Waiting for the big one' either.  8^)
    
        Europe:
    
            Saw the 'Superstitious" video - Joey (is that his name?)
            has a fantastic voice!!  (My sister says he looks like he's
            doing a shampoo commercial when he's performing). 8^)
    
        Anthrax:
    
            Saw "I'm the Man" - and to quote 'The Cookster' ...
    
            no comment.
    
                                                       GTI

    
        More random stuff:
    
             "Heaven Tonight" by Yngwie - OK song, but he runs around
              the stage like a total a**hole (which I've heard he is
              anyways).
    
             "Dude Looks Like a Lady" by Aerosmith would be a total
              waste of time if it wasn't for the cute girls.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    I watched parts of the HBB on Sat and it seemed better.  They seemed
    to play heavier stuff overall.  Perhaps it's improving.
    
    They also had Nuclear Assault on there as guests (among others),
    seemed like they had a lot of guests on this one.
    
    gh

    Yeah!  I was amazed.  
    
    I liked the attitude N.A. had.  Something they said rather impressed
    me.  It was along the lines of "A lot of new bands come out and they
    just want to be extreme and have a lot of Satanic lyrics and junk.  It
    just give the entire metal genre a bad name". 
    
    I totally agree.                              
    
    gh

    
    
    	Since I saw the band on MTV last night, I figured
    	this would be a good place to put this.  The band
    	is unknown (I think), but I don't know if it shouldn't
    	be, so I can't put it there...and I don't know about
    	their new releases so  I didn't put it there...
    
    	Anyways....I was watching MTV last night to pass the
    	time until Jeopardy came on  (^8 and during the Post
    	Modern show hosted by none other than Ken Ober, there
    	were two bands that I thought were Metalish.
    
    	One was a band in which every member was black.  With
    	the sterotypes that go around, and the way they were
    	dressed (BTW, I forgot the bands' name), you'd would've
   	expected rap to emerge from their mouths.  The name
    	of the song was Cult of  Personality, and while I didn't
    	think it was terrific, I thought it was okay and I
    	commend them on their different approach to HM!
    
    	Another band I saw was Bulletboys (??).  The lead 
    	singer looked alot like the older DLR, complete with
    	long, fairly straight  hair.  The song was Smooth Up
    	(??)...I didn't think it was all too bad either.
    
    	Anybody else catch these two bands????
    
    Tig~~
    

    One band was called Living Color.  (the colored guys)  They're from
    Boston, but I don't know how long they've been together.  They played
    at the Rat not too long ago, and 'BCN carried the show live.  I
    kinda like their sound, but that guitarist just played for too damn
    long.  He treated the whole song like a solo.  But I like them anyways.
    
    Steve O

    I think they spell it Living Colour.
    
    Anyway, I have the bulletboys lp.  I hate it!  Another Van Headache
    clone band the world can do without!
    
    Living Colour on the other hand is a cool band.  Burnin Vernon Reed
    is a kick a$$ geetar player!   I like all their stuff except for
    their cover of the Tracey Chapman tune, Talkin Bout a Revolution...
    they missed the boat on that one!
    
    Buck

    
    I too have the bullet boys album, buti haven't listened to it yet.

     
    RE.37
    YO! tig...:^) if you are reading,metal edge look at page 57
    bulletboys and what thier about.
     
    barney
    

    I have the VIVID album by Living Colour, and the contrast in music
    styles on the album is as impressive as is the quality of the music,
    IMO.
    
    They have been getting excellent reviews and due to demand will
    be adding dates to their UK shows. 
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

    
    	RE: Barney
    
    	That's what I found out!!  Have yet to get all the way
    	through it, though.  gotta read BLAST! too....
    
    	Let you know what other gossip I dig up!
    
    	Tig~~
    

    
    	The singer from Femme Fatale is Lorraine Lewis from Albuquerque
    New Mexico. Lorraine is a totally narly "Gobbler"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    	Metallica has three videos that are rarely shown on EmptyV:
    
    	'Wake Up Dead' and 'Anarchy in the USA' and I can't remember
    the third.........?????????
    
    
    Earl (_}===#
    
    

    
    
      Are you thinking of Metallica or Megadeth....Megadeth does Anarchy.
    
    /Bill
    

    
    	MEGADETH has WAke up DEAD... Peace Sells.. and Anarchy....
    
    	METALLICA has nothing yet....
    
    BK
    

    Also, its Anarchy in the UK, not USA!

    
    re:44
    
    Daaaaaaaaaaaa......Ooooooooooooooopppppppppppppsssssssssssss!!!!!!!
    
    
         Earl (_}===#

    
    	RE -.1
    
    	It's been like that for a while...
    
    	It still doesn't help. MTV used to be a breaking place for a
    lot of really talented bands, but it became a quick way for a good
    image to become popular. The metal they play is 'popular' metal,
    such as Def Leppard or Poison. I have NEVER seen 'Paradise City'
    during 'normal' hours...only on the requests or the HBB. I've seen
    Metallica's 'One' that many times exactly, even 'tho these two songs
    are the 'most popular'.
    	Of course, pop is what MTV is aimed at nowadays. Look at the
    commercials, and you get an idea of who watches it.
    
    						Les
    

    
    
    
    
    	You must get a different MTV than I do because all I
    	ever see is Paradise City!!                       
                                      
    	"One" still isn't all too popular, but ask yourself
    	this....do you want it to be??
    
    	I can see it happening already...the bands like 
    	Metallica and Queensryche were fantastic WITHOUT all
    	the publicity, now all of the sudden they're popular
    	and BAMMO, teeny boppers are finding them good, too.
    	The next stage is the concerts where the teenyboppers
    	are going to find their popular hunks, then their
    	music just isn't as entertaining as it used to be.
    
    	Tigga~~  (just a thought to ponder)
                     

    Re .52
>    	The next stage is the concerts where the teenyboppers
>    	are going to find their popular hunks, then their
>    	music just isn't as entertaining as it used to be.

     Yeah, ain't that the truth... 
    
     It seems like most bands I have ever "discovered" and liked
    eventually became BIG and then I didn't like them as much...
    
     I don't know if it's the fact that when the band starts getting
    frequent exposure it turns me off, or if it's because they tend
    to sell out as they get more recognition...
    
     Most bands are true to their musical self when they're just starting
    out, but once they "hit it big" then they get pressure from the
    record company and maybe feel like they have more to lose...
    
     I suppose it's catch-22, when you "discover" a band then you want
    to see more of them, after which you see too much of them, or they
    become too much rock_formula for your tastes...

     Of course there are exceptions, and these are the bands that always
    last and of which you always remain a fan...

    
Night_Prowler

    

    re: MTV recognizing HM...
    
    bullsh*t.
    
    MTV recognizes top 40. 
    For weeks they made the biggest deal out of Metallica's
    video release. The video's out... I've been watching MTV as much
    as possible ever since, and I haven't seen the video ONCE!!!
    But I'll see 4 f**king Def Leppard (whom I HATE) videos, Tone
    Loc twice, Bobby Brown 3 times, and Paula Abdul and Karen White
    twice each... NO METALLICA!!! Yeah, it's a big deal... so where's
    the video already. I knew it was going to happen.
    
    I think now that the only reason that MTV even mentioned Metallica's
    vid was that they were slated to be in Rolling Stone magazine.
    
    Jeeeezus, I see more BEATLES videos on MTV than Metallica (no lie).
    
    /Motorbreath...MTV sucks

    RE:-1  Wow!! You are Pissed 8^)
    
    
    Dont feel bad I did the Same ,,Wait and wait But No Metallica,,,
    
    well last night I finally Saw it...8^) Now STill Waiting for Another
    
    One to come out.
    
    tamallica

    I recorded most of the special and the only heavy metal band I saw
    was Cinderella.
    
    I was hoping for more "vintage" stuff...
    
    <--<T<<

    BTW, the special was called "Deja Video"
    
    (I know it is sidetrekking from Headbangers, but at least it's EmptyVee
    oriented...)
    
    <--<T><<
    

    
    
       Did you know supposeedly starting this week MTV is haveing
     a half hour of Heavy Metal from 5:00-5:30 Mon-Fri,(EST)  
    
         Has anyone seen it yet......There is know way I can get home
    that fast.
    
       /Bill
    

    
    Kind of like "Metal Shop" used to be.  I'd miss it every day.
    
    MTV can't help but notice how popular the whole movement has become.
    If people don't like it, let them watch Oprah...
    
    Dilly_noting_up_a_storn_and_not_even_caffeinated_today

    
    
    Blech.
    
    I won't be home that early!!
    
    But when I am thats psyched!!!
    
    Yee ha!
    
    They have to make this side of America happy..  lets face it, how
    many of us are home every single Sat night at Midnight to catch
    each weeks headbangers ball?
    
    F.

    Face it, it is just going to be a bunch of pouser groups that they
    show all during the day anyways... Guns and f***ing Roses, Poison,
    etc....
    
    Chris
    

    
    We can hope, can't we?
    
    Maybe they'll play the same stuff they do on HBB (except some of
    it prob isn't "suitable" for a 5pm slot--you can do a lot after
    midnight that you can't do mid-day)
    
    To tell you the truth, the first time I saw the Metallica vid, I
    was like "No way will this be on daytime tv--too violent & depressing"
    
    Dilly

    
    	I wasn't real impressed with "Teasin' and Pleasin'" by
    	Dangerous Toys - the lead singer screams too much.
    
    							GTI
    

    
>    	I wasn't real impressed with "Teasin' and Pleasin'" by
>    	Dangerous Toys - the lead singer screams too much.

	 Yikes!  I really should watch HBB more often.....These guys
	 warmed up for Accept and they were GREAT!  (this song was
	 WICKED live!!!)


	 /kath_who_thot_they_were_local

    
    FLip bought the tape yesterday, I got to hear a little bit, but
    not much, sounded o.k. from what i heard.
    
    CJ

    
    	I was watchin' "Stephen King's World of Horror" last
    	w'end and they showed part of Twisted Sister's "Be
    	Crool to your School" ... Tom Savini (I believe) did
    	the make-overs of the zombies.
    
    	He also did "Dawn of the Dead".
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Oh yeah - Alice Cooper was in it ... he wasn't made over,
    	but he seemed to fit in just the same.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Anyone notice Ozzy's cameo in "Anti-Social" by Anthrax?
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	Plenty of times.  You gotta open your eyes, Shawn.  (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    Yeah, kind of hard to miss Ozzy in that one.  I figured that they
    filmed that video while Anthrax was on tour with him.
    
    gh

    
    	I kinda like "Freight Train" (the video) by Nitro.
    
    	The "introduction" of the "quad-neck" guitar coming
    	out of the explosion is wild!
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Oh yeah - the reason I just mentioned Ozzy being in the
    	"Anti-social" video is because last w'end was the first
    	time I'd ever seen it.
    
    	So phooey on u!!  8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	Chris DeGarmo and Geoff Tate will be hosting the HBB this
    	weekend for those who care.  (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    EXCELLENT! Let's see now...beer, food, yeah! that should do it.
    Thanx Tigga!
    Spaceknight
    

    
    A definite must watch!  Thanks Tigga!  I probably would have missed
    it and heard about it in here.  That would bite!
    
    
    Mr. Ed

    
    I caught the ball Sat. night, Wasn't their new video "Speak" great?  I
    thought those guys did a great job hosting. 

    
    Definitely one of the better HBB's!  Hats off to the new QR video.
    If anyone should get a grammy this year, it should be these guys. 
    I've just started getting into the "story" and I think that the
    girl did herself in!
    
    Mr. Ed

    Why oh why can't we get the US Headbangers Ball!
    
    I have to settle for MTV Europes Headbangers Ball and it is ...
    
    Lets just say that I have seen better, like Top of The Pops!
    
    8^)
    
    Bonzo

    
    	RE: Bonzo
    
    	You're probably not missing a whole heck of alot.  I tape
    	it every week and more often than not they just get taped
    	over and over.
    
    	VERY rarely do I watch one that is worth keeping on videotape.
    	(This past HBB is one of them though!)
    
    	Tigga~~

    
    Yeeehaaaaa !!
    
    I got my satalite dish yesterday - I now have MTV ! 8^)

    
    	You shouldn't waste your money like that....
    
    BK

          
    Brian - you have absouloutly NO idea of what the situation is in
    Engalnd with the music media. 
          
    The only video's you EVER see on regular TV are the occasional Bon
    Jovi or Vixen. It sucks. MTV at least shows non-glam stuff, and
    you get the ocassional live show etc... Better than nothing.
                                                                
    Your just a spolied bratt 8^)                                      

    
    I used to enjoy watching Hard 60, but then I used to miss half of
    it because *someone* wanted to switch channels so they could watch
    'Days of our lives' or whatever that ridiuclous soap was called!!
    
    But MTV did get kinda predictable...
    
    Flip

    
    	Coming on Saturday, May 19th - "Decade Of Metal" at 8PM.
    
    	Vince Neil and Tommy Lee will be among the hosts.
    
    
    	Am I the only one that thinks Rikki Rachtmann is a moron?
    	This week, he finally figured out where the term "head banger"
    	came from.  Geez, such a genius.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	RE: Shawn
        >Rikki Rachtman
    
    	You obviously missed one of the first shows he hosted 
    	when someone wrote a letter that merely said the same
    	words over and over and over again.  "Rikki Rachtman
    	s*cks"...
    
    	This dude knows his inhaling!  BLECK!!!!  get rid of
    	him!  I'd rather have Hairman Curry!  (8
    
    	RE: Tommy Lee and Vince
    	
    	Hubba hubba!! I'll have the VCR set that night!! (8
    	
    	Tigga~~~
    	

    
    
    	From what little of seen of the twirp.....I don't like him...
    
    	No enthusiasm whatsoever....
    

Could be worse...

They could have Kevin Seal host HBB!

    
    
    I HATE Wikki Watman.  All he talks about is his stupid tatoos.  every
    time I watch HBB he's talking about a new tat or why he has so many
    tats or how much tats hurt.  It's like WHO CARES!!  Is that all this
    guys has going for him.  It also seems to me that he gives his friend
    Tamie Downe lots of play and is constantly mentioning his name (like
    it's like so cool he knows Tamie and they like own the Cathouse
    together yah know man!!) JMHO.  I'd wish they'd get someone normal on
    there. - Kim

    
    	Oh yeah, Rikki said he DJ'd at someone's wedding ... was it
    	Tommy/Heather?
    
    	And is that his only claim to fame?
    
    							GTI
    

    Nah, Rikki is part of the "scene" in LA.
    
    I'd rather they had some stereotypical metal-head that talked
    like Bill and Ted doing the show... it would be funny!
    
    /Motorbreath...like this next band is totally massive!

    
    Isn't stevie Vai going to be the HM bangers Host this weekend or
    is it next weekend...?~?  I think it is this weekend.
    
    
    SaxforBreath....Hey MB how ya like my new Name ?
                   
    
    Sax
    

    
    	RE: -1
    
    	Sax... Vai will be hosting the week after next.  Next week
    	Riki "LAWMAN" Rachtman will be heading to Texas with Kiss/
    	Slaughter/Faster Pussycat.
    
    	Vince and Tommy are also supposed to be co-hosting with
    	the dweebmeister himself on a "Decade of Metal" type
    	show in a few weeks.
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    	This just in from our Washington office:
    
    	Rikki Rachtman is still a moron.
    
    	More later.
    
    							GTI
    

    Yeah, but he's on tv with the coolest job on the station,
    and YOU'RE NOT!!! 8^)
    
    Yo SAX... GOOD LUCK DUDE!!
    
    /Motorbreath...but I think your new p_n is outright PLAGIARISM!!!
    ;^)

    
    	RE: -1
    
    	BUT!  With any luck they'll fire him and hire ME instead.
    	(; (; (;
    
    	I'd have the cutest HM dudes on there ever! (;
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    RE: -1
    
     Tig, I'd like to see you get the HM job....Just imagine
    
    
          watching the cutest buns on M-yYV.
    
    8^)
    
    Sax
    
    

    
    
    	RE: -1
    
    	Hey...I wouldn't mind. (; (; (;  I could even have little
    	rating cards scaled 1 through 10.  Everyone who came and
    	sat on Jennifer (whose name would be definitely be changed
    	to something like Sven) would have to be sure they flaunted
    	some tush first. (; (; (;
    
    	Tigga~~~

    	I realize that nobody asked my opinion, but tough. I watched
    headbangers ball the other night and was completely disgusted by the
    mass quantities of major posers that get all the attention. I'm sorry
    but I Think Micheal Monroe make a better h**dgiver than a headbanger.
    As for groups like Warrant, and (sorry ladies) Bon Jovi, they can take
    thier wallets and thier little girlie friends and go home. Doesn't
    anyone make music for men anymore. Even Kiss, the biggest mans group in
    the seventies sissied out and is directing thier music toward brainless
    little sixth grade girls (Gee, I've only got $20, Who should I see? Kiss
    or Tiffany) I'm sorry if I'm flaming anyone, I'm not a sexist, and I
    believe everyone deserves their opinion, and if that kind of music is
    your style then I'll respect it, I just think that all this commercial
    crap has gone too far.
    
    LANDSHARK
    a displeased headBANGER  

    
    RE: -.1  
    
    Hey, another anti-poseur!  Right on!
    
    >As for groups like Warrant, and (sorry ladies) Bon Jovi, they can take
    >thier wallets and thier little girlie friends and go home. 
    
    Funny, are they classified as a group?  I thought they looked more like
    the groupies.  ;^>
    
    >Doesn't anyone make music for men anymore. 
    
    Nope!  Wouldn't make any money.
    
    >Even Kiss, the biggest mans group in the seventies sissied out and is 
    >directing thier music toward brainless little sixth grade girls 
    >(Gee, I've only got $20, Who should I see? Kiss or Tiffany) 
    
    Don't they get their make up from same store????  KISS was good but IMO
    has gone down hill really fast in last few years.
    
    >I'm sorry if I'm flaming anyone, I'm not a sexist, and I
    >believe everyone deserves their opinion, 
    
    Yup!  Use it or lose it!
    
    >and if that kind of music is your style then I'll respect it,
    
    Oh, come on!  You don't mean that, do you? ;^>
     
    >I just think that all this commercial crap has gone too far.
    
    Just when you think it's too far, they'll go further!  I can just see
    it now!  Thrash poseur metal with Tiffany as lead singer!  ;^>
    
    J-Dot

    I recall in the old days disliking Kiss because they were a rock band
    for teeny-s. Things don't change. 
    
    MTV is brainwashing people into liking maybe 1% of the available music
    in the world. They do this to increase the profits of specific
    businesses at the expense of others. They are a manipulative industry
    who regard music as nothing more than a way to generate capitol and
    excersize  control of the behavior of people.
    Where there is MTV free will is squashed.
    
    Let em sue me, I aint got nothin.
    Let em kill me somebody else will take my place.
    let em torture me I like pain.
    Armageddon Now!
    
    toe
    

    
    
	RE: Landshark
    
	>headbangers ball the other night and was completely disgusted by the
	>mass quantities of major posers that get all the attention. I'm sorry
    
    	Do you watch the HBB EVERY weekend or only when you remember
    	that it's on?  FWIW, not every week is full of groups you 
    	don't like.
    
    	There have been shows that are 95% thrash and speed metal.
    	Nuclear Assault, Testament, Overkill, Danzig, and all the
    	rest of that trash.  (IMO - I hate thrash, nyah) (;
    
	>but I Think Micheal Monroe make a better h**dgiver than a headbanger.
    
    	Oooh.  Now that's an intelligent statement. 
    
    	>As for groups like Warrant, and (sorry ladies) Bon Jovi, they can take
	>thier wallets and thier little girlie friends and go home. Doesn't
	>anyone make music for men anymore. 
    
	>or Tiffany) I'm sorry if I'm flaming anyone, I'm not a sexist, and I

    	Whoa!  Time out.  I don't think music was made for MEN in the
    	first place!!  Yes - I saw your apology.  Kim Russo (::PERTAG)
    	is one of the first people I can think of who enjoys all the
    	heavier groups that I personally don't care for.  Does this mean 
    	she should get a sex change to enjoy the music you label as "music 
    	for men" ?!
    
	Not all women think JBJ is a hunk; I don't.  And much to your
    	amazement there are actually guys that go to his shows as well.
    	Nyah again! (;
    
    	Tigga~~ who says if you don't care for it then buy yourself a 
    		CD player.

      RE. Landshark - Sorry dude but, I don't think music is made for men
    or women.  (I also saw your apology) But, still think that was a TOTAL
    sexist remark.  I agree that MTV should put some more variety like an
    even amount of thrash compared to softer stuff (warrant, JBJ, etc.). 
    Also, I'm curious what do you consider "MEN type music"?? - Kim

    
    
    MUSIC FOR MEN
    
    ditto last 2
    
    F.

    RE Landshark. 
    
    JonBomb's (tm)fans are mostly comprised of LGTB (tm) and he plays LGBG (tm)
    music. If yer gonna bash JonBomb (tm) you need to use the proper
    terminology.
    
    LGTB - little girl teeny bopper 
    LGBG - Little girl bubble gum, His music style.
    
    P.S. I didn't see any sexism in your reply, but if you are gonna play
    music FOR men do it when I'm not around. I'm not THAT type. 
    
    Zillions of smileys.
    
    
    Yo /tig
    
    Whenever we have a party (I.E. the last 3 weekends) we always have the
    headgiver's ball on, Whilst I have seen some of what you call trash and
    Kim R. calls thrash. I have seen far more LGBG (tm) and LGSH (tm) music
    than actual thrash and whatnot.
    
    LGSH (Little Girl Spikey Heads) Kinda like LGBGers but into harder
    stuff. Some LGSHs are quite knowledgeable in reguards to harder types
    of music but most are there for the dudes and whatnot.
    
    I'm sure that didn't help 
    
    the devil dog
    

    
    	Yo /jes
    
    	You're too busy compiling all your trademarks to pay attention
    	to what's going on at the HBB.  And if you're at a party, I
    	doubt highly that you're straight enough to pay attention to
    	what videos are being shown.
    
    	Pfth.
    
    	Tigga~~~~ (8

    re /tig
    
    You must be too busy thinking up comebacks to what someone sez. Cuz I
    was agreeing wif your reply on the content of the HBB. I usually don't
    pay strict attention, but Oddball and Harley sure do. They don't
    hesitate to tell me who's on and who's the cutest and who sucks and
    whatever opinions they have of whatever band member. 
    
    I sometimes actually know from wence I speak. 
    
    the devil dog 

    	Hey, J-DOT, I could use some backup here, I think I flamed some
    people. 
    	Tig, sorry if I pissed you off, I'm really not a sexist. I think
    everybody has a right to like what they want, but I also have right to
    my opinion, which I took the liberty of sharing with the NET. I looked
    back at my note and it was pretty sexist, I certainly didn't mean it
    that way, it may have been just a poor choice of words. No flames meant
    o.k?
    	Whew, it looks like from now on I'd better do some serious step
    watching, hope I didn't damage anyone's feelings.
    
    LANDSHARK
    Opinions are like *ssholes, everyone's got one, and they all stink
    And to think I thought no one payed attention to anything I said.

    
    	RE: JBLUM
    
    	Landshark - if I were seriously flaming you, I wouldn't have
    	stuck all the Nyah's in there.  (; (; (;
    
    	Tigga~~~~ chillbaby. (8

    
    RE: LANDSHARK
    
    "I looked back at my note and it was pretty sexist, I certainly didn't
    mean it that way,"
    
     - Hey glad you didn't, no flames here!! 8^) 8^) - Kim

    	 I feel much better!!
    LANDSHARK

While all the flaming and "I'm sorrying"  is going on nobody stopped to
remember that BonJovi's music isn't/wasn't that bad.  His last album kinda
stunk, but 7800 rocked.  Same with Def Leppards last effort, while it was okay,
it gives up nothing to Pyromainia.

You folks gotta understand that these people are in BUSINESS.  They have bosses
too, and they tell them the kind of stuff that sells...And what they want
on albums.  The bands that get away with putting what THEY want on their 
LP's are selling an "I don't give a f**k" attitude anyway...

And since when is Kiss a mens band ?  Kiss is about as much MENS MUSIC
as The Partridge Family, The Osmonds and The Jackson 5 !  Do you 
think they were trying to attract MEN with all the make up and cheesy
music ? 

Just My Humble Opinion, but I think not.

;)

jc

    
    	And in defense of the HBB, there haven't been a whole lot of
    	"poseur videos" lately ... especially Bon Jovi themselves.
    
    	They've been showing some heavy stuff lately.
    
    							GTI
    

    	 Not last week, I did catch some alright stuff, but the majority of
    it was stuff that you'd see anytime of day on MTV. IMO the Headbangers
    ball should be set aside for the stuff that they ordinarily don't play
    during regular hours. Do I make any sense?? In other words, you can
    turn your set on any time of day and catch the latest JBJ vid, but not
    true with the newest Metal Church vid. I'll check it out this weekend,
    who knows, maybe I just catch HBB on bad weeks.
    
    L A N D S H A R K (Who doesn't really think things should fit his
    tastes exactly, but they should come close. :^)

    
    	FWIW	...tonight from 7:00 - 7:30 Rockumentary features
    		the Crue.  7:30 - 8:00 is a half hour of Crue videos,
    		8:00 - 12:00 is the special "Decade of Metal" with
    		Riki Yak-man, Tommy Lee and Vince Neil.  ANDDDD...
    		from 12:00 - 3:00ish is The Decline of Western
    		Civilization "The Metal Years"
    
    	tigga~~~~ has her VCR all set!

    Yep, taping it right now !  Wasn't Steve Vai supposed to host a couple
    of shows, maybe 1 show, maybe I have no idea where of I speak ....
    
    Scary

    
    
    	Ummm... ya.  I think it's next week.
    
    	tigga~~~

re: a couple back

Metal Church has a video?

    
    	Yeah, "Badlands".
    
    	There might be more, but that's the only one I know of.
    
    							GTI
    

    They also have "Watch the Children Pray", and I think there's another
    off of their latest album (Besides "Badlands").
    
    I also thought Steve Vai was supposed to host last week.  He better be
    this week, or I'll be P*ssed!
    
    �Ken�
    

    
    
    	Two weeks ago they were in Texas with the Kiss tour.  Last
    	week was the Decade of Metal Marathon.  If anything, Vai
    	will host this upcoming week.
    
    	tigga~~~ but don't quote me

    	 I caught "The Metal Years" The other night. Totally cool, I got a
    kick outta watchin' some of those Hollywood boize, looks like the drug
    problem in L.A. is worse than we thought. Chris Holmes sure isn't a
    pretty sight, that boy looks like he could use some serious help,
    fast!! I fail to see how someone with a problem like Chris's could
    stand up to the stress of being on the road. Oh Well, I'll wish him
    luck. 
    
    L A N D S H A R K 

    	FWIW and those who care, the HBB will be moving to 11:00pm
    	on Saturday nights instead of midnight.
    
    	It wasn't said whether it means we'll get an extra hour
    	of videos or not - but I doubt it.
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    
    Thank tigga.. I care, i just hated staying up til 12am :^}
    
    i think it should move in around ten anyway.. (for parties sakes)
    
    			wendy o'
    
    

    
    	Geez!!  Lita set the couch on fire on the HBB Saturday!!
    
    
    	And what's the point of "Under My Thumb" by Sam Kinneson?
    	He took the Rolling Stones song of the same name, and all
    	he does is join in at the chorus.  Do the words fit the
    	Jim Bakker story that well?
    
    	Seen in the video:
    
    	Ozzy (the judge)	Bud Bundy	Paul Williams
    
    	And Dweezil Zappa WAILS on guitar!!
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	RE: Lita hosting
    
    	What a joke.  She couldn't have looked more like a tramp
    	if she tried.  Instead of presenting videos with a little
    	class, she chose to sit all sexy on the couch.  GAG.
    
    	RE: Dweezil
    
    	And cute, too. (;
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    	I think Saturday was "Lita Ford Night" on the HBB ... we got
    	blessed with "Kiss Me Deadly" and "Close My Eyes Forever",
    	as well as "Hungry".
    
    	She was fun to look at in the first 2, and she sounded great
    	in the 3rd.
    
    	Now if she could only do both in the same video.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Scatterbrain is supposed to be on next week's HBB ... for
    	Rikki "I am a moron, and I'm not afraid to admit it" Racht-
    	mann's "birthday show".
    
    	It will be a 4-hour show, starting with Guns 'n' Roses live
    	for the first hour.  [I'm not sure whether it'll start at
    	10 or 11 though.]
    
    							GTI
    

    Has anyone noticed that most HM videos these days are more like soft
    porn ? 
    
    
    
    These are wonderful times we live in !      8^)
    
    Scary ...

    
    	I didn't see ANY new videos on the HBB this w'end!!
    
    	Boring!!
    
    							GTI
    

                              
    I saw Bruce Dickinsons new single 'All th young dudes'.
                              
    It poppy, but pretty good.

    all the young dudes was written in the seventies by david bowie,bruce
    has covered it well although it's the weakest track on tattoed.
    

    .146�    all the young dudes was written in the seventies by david bowie,bruce
    
    	What about Ian Hunter? I thought he wrote that song! OR is it a
    entirely different song? 
    
    B.A.

    
               David Bowie wrote it for Mott, and it was their first hit!!
                                                          Skip

    
    re-1,
    
    	Sounds good to me! :*)
    
    B.A.

    
    	Was there anything new and/or exciting on the HBB this w'end?
    
    	I didn't see it, nor did I tape it.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	I think I've given up hope for watching videos for videos ...
    	now I only watch them for 1 of 2 reasons:
    
    	1)	To hear new songs.
    
    		"Seasons in the Abyss" by Slayer, "One Funhouse" by
    		Funhouse.
    
    	2)	To see great looking girls.
    
    		"I'm So Bad" by Motorhead, "Her Black Wings" by
    		Danzig, "Tainted Angel" by Southgang.
    
    
    	And there are some that aren't really good for anything.
    	Take Tangier's "Stranded", where the band's tour bus breaks
    	down and they set up all their equipment in the middle of the
    	desert in the hopes that a big-breasted blonde will break
    	down also and come to see them play.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	And if anyone knows where I can get one of those "skull mugs"
    	that Rikki "Yes, I'm still an idiot" Rachtman has then let
    	me know.
    
    							GTI
    

      Check any local tattoo company......I'm sure they can give you
    a couple "skull mugs" for life.
    
                                     Frizkid
    

    
    	How was Mindfunk on the HBB?
    
    	I forgot to tape it.
    
    							GTI
    

    >>	How was Mindfunk on the HBB?
    
    Well someone shot a vidoe, then they sent it to eMpTyV, then eMpTyV
    decided to show it one the HGB.
    
    
    HTH

    
    	Perhaps a slight rephrasing of the question is in order, for
    	those of you who are either blonde or Jesse.  8^)
    
    	Did anyone see Mindfunk on the HBB?  If so, were they any
    	good?
    
    							GTI
    

    Only the singer and one of the stringed bashees' were there.
    
             They also played their video for Bighouse Burning...which
    is o.k. but got boring after the second chorus.
    
        At first the singer said he wasn't going to join but then after 
    hearing them he joined.
    
    He also said he had to stay on that trapezee thing for 6 hours a day!
    
    
                              Frizkid
    

    
    Unfortunate, tasteless, soul.
    
    GTI, it's a great album!
    
    Flip

      Get off my BACK!
                NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                Frizkid
    

    
    
    	Not about the HBB but...
    
    	MTV will air some documentary about "metal" tomorrow at 7pm.  
    The show will be replayed some time Sunday and again on Monday.
    
    Paul

    
    hey, has anyone heard that this saturday HBB will be airing most of the
    MONSTERS OF ROCK show from Donnington!!!!
    
    METALLICA
    QUEENSRYCHE
    VAN HALEN
    MOTLEY CRUE
    black crowes (sorry to fans but I don't consider them monsters of rock,
    althugh they are quite gruesome   8*)
    
    Chris, who definetly is taping it, so if anyone can't watch it, just
    give me a holler.
    
    
    	
    

    
    Speaking of DOnnington, I heard a rumor that Maiden might be headlining
    it next year....

    
    My tickets to europe are bought!!!!!!!
    
    Hopefully they release an album before then, and maybe Adrian will come
    back, not the Janick isn't a cool dude.
    
    

    
    i don't like adrian. he brought too much pop influence into the band.
    now that he's gone, steve and bruce can do the writting again. janick
    is a great guitarist too.

     That would SUX if Iron Maiden headlined anything with their current
    crap material.   IMNSHO......
    
                             Frizkid
    

    
    No way. I don't think their latest material is their best, but in
    no way sux in the least. The only trash song on the release was
    written by Adrian "pop star" Smith.

      Not as good as NUMBER OF THE BEAST and PEICE OF MIND.....
    
             Theyv'e gone---
                            \D
                             \O
                              \W
                               \N
                                \H
                                 \I
                                  \L
                                   \L
                                    \!
    
                   Frizkid
    

    I dunno, I liked Somewhere in Time. and Powerslave. 

    I liked Powerslave, but that was the last effort I could LISTEN too!
    
    SIT blew, IMHO

    If I remember well, this Sunday between 15h and 18h (Belgian time) MTV
    will show a concert with Metallica, Queensryche and Motley Crue.
    
    Sorin

    Is this Donnington?........or just recroded concerts.
    
    
    
    
    
                                              Staynz

    I have little information but I think it's related to Donnington or the
    other concerts in Europe this summer (they've been also in Belgium and
    Holland - Monsters of Rock ?). I'll program my VCR today.
    
    Sorin

    This SATURDAY on the BALL:
    
        Vince Neil and Nikki Sixx of MOTLEY F*CKIN' CRUE will guest hosting
    and showing their video for Anarchy in the U.S.A..
    
                            Frizkid
    
    

    
    	Well I know that Tigg will have the VCR set for.   =)
    

    
    	I'll have to remember to do it Saturday afternoon before I
    	go to work...
    
    	If I leave it to Chris, it won't happen. (8
    
    	tigg~~~

    
    Now I know what time to set the charges of dynamite at the HBB studio..
    						*)
    
    
    Chris/HMBP

    
    
    	Anyone happen to watch the HBB this weekend?  They were supposed
    to be playing a video by Bullet LaVolta.  Was wondering what the song
    was etc....
    
    
    Paul

	I would like to discuss something musically instead of the 
	fighting going on in 99.*

	So....I have noticed over the past 2 or three weeks that 
	Heavy Metal (Most of my info from what is played on 
	HBB) is heading towards a Rap/Metal..  Well my opinion
	is that I don't like it.  The groups such as Primus
	(semi-rap) and Hard Corps (real rap) and another group
	are getting a lot of play on HBB.  I like Heavy music 
	when the lead singer sings (What a shock eh?)  I still
	like the heavy guitars and melody, but singing is what 
	makes it.  Do you think because of stuff like Anthrax/P.E.
	and Aerosmith/Run DMC is going to send Metal towards Rap?
	I hope that it doesn't or I will stick with listen to old
	tapes, and not the new stuff.

	It is my Opinion that Rap of any kind including Rap/Metal
	sucks...  Groups like Hard Corps don't deserve to be played
	on HBB in my opinion......

	I know Tigga I am not the only person listening to HBB, but
	those are my opinions.  (See you taught me well, I did learn
	that there are other people besides me..)    8)

					-Seth/HMBP-RF-TOSA!!!

    I think this has been discussed before, but I'll add my opinion.  I
    don't care for rap very much, it turns me off.  
    
    I think that what you're seeing is a natural progression.  There's a
    big blending of musical forms going on and metal is getting mixed with
    other things like funk, R&B, blues, to form new forms of music. 
    Everyone's interested in finding a unique sound and a lot of bands are
    doing it this way.
    
    Also, FWIW, I would *not* call Primus rap in any form, it's nothing
    like rap to me!
    
    gh

    I hate the rap part in the new RUSH tune "Roll the Bones"!
    
              Ruins the whole song.....
    

    
    What I think Mr. Howes (might) be saying is that the sound of Heavy
    Metal isn't really that 'heavy' if you can say that anymore. A lot
    of bands are using minimal distortion, and funky rythms are being added
    instead of more crunchy riffs. As with Primus (sorry gh, I know ya
    love'em) they are really a music category unto their own. They do get
    placed with Metal, when they should really be in another. Which I don't
    know probably their own.
    
    
    Chris

    I have to agree.  I don't like that rap section of "Roll the Bones"
    either.
    
    gh, who thinks the whole song is a little pop sounding anyway

    re: Chris
    
    I'm not insulted if you don't like Primus.  I like 'em, but I like a
    lot of stuff other people I know don't.  It's no big deal.  
    
    Personally I'd call Primus "alternative" not "metal"...
    
    gh

    
    I like Primus. And that's wierd. Cause I was gonna call them
    alternative but I figured I'd getta lotta slack so's I juts put
    another.
    
    good to know I agree with somebody on something.
    
    chris

	I dunno...  I guess I like 'heavy metal' not really other 
	mutations, and I don't care for alternative stuff very much
	at all.  These are just my opinions.  *I* do not call Primus
	heavy metal I call them Alternative/Semi-rap (That is what
	*I* call them).  'Pril I am glad you like Hard Corps I am not
	making fun of them *I* just think they suck.  I like a group
	with a lead *SINGER*.  That is all.  Gh the songs I have heard
	from Primus the guy is mostly talking, is that not rap?  Yes
	it does have a 'funky' background, but I call what I have heard
	a form of rap.  I am sorry if this was discussed before, I did not
	know.  I will just stick with my group, and change the channel
	when Hard Corps or Primus comes on.  As I said in the 'Hot' topic
	I find *most* of Nirvana a bit too alternative for my liking.
	Some of the songs like SLTS are cool but the others are too 
	alternative....


						-Seth

	Just my opinions guys...   8)

    
    
    I like the stuff Anthrax did but I wouldn't listen to it all the time.

    Hey Seth, Like I was just saying, there's no need to apologize for your
    opinions.  There was a time when I woudln't have liked music like
    Primus and Nirvana too, but I like them right now.  I'm not interested
    in trying to change anyone else's opinions of them...
    
>    Gh the songs I have heard from Primus the guy is mostly talking, is
>    that not rap? 
    
    I don't think it is.  There have always been songs where people did a
    voice over monologue type approach, but they weren't really called rap. 
    I think of rap as having a very strong rhythm to the vocal line with a
    heavy emphasis in the lyrics on having the last lines always rhyme.  A
    song like "Tommy The Cat" for example, while it isn't exactly sung (per
    se), doesn't have the "rap style" vocal inflections, rhythm, and rhyme. 
    That's why I don't call it rap.  
    
    gh                                                                  

    
    re: pete
    
    same here. I like bring the noise, and i'm the man and junk. But I get
    tires of that quickly
    
    BTW what're you at home?

    
    re: -1
    
    Yep.

    
    you know, i would never have even thought of that part in roll the boes
    as being rap.  someone even told me to listen to the song for the rap
    part and i still didnt notice.  it's doesnt follow a rap pattern, it's
    just more like talk.  i bet if they stuck lots of effects with the
    voice like in cygnus x-1, nobody would complain .... personally, i feel
    rush can do no wrong :').
    
    

    Sounded like rap to me, dude.  Now, Primus doesn't sound like a rap
    pattern to me, just like talk...
    
    gh

You know what I think is knida funny?   I am not just saying this
about people in *this* conference, but about people I have discussed
this with in general.  It *seems* as though people classify what
they don't like in HM (talking that is) as rap and stuff they do
like is talk, and it goes with the music.  I am not making fun of
people beacuse I probably do the same thing.  I am sure that if I
liked Primus I wouldn't relate them to rap at all.  Well this is
just something I have noticed, maybe it is true maybe it is not..

Interesting anyway.....

					Who knows,
					     -Seth

    Possibly, but not probably!  8-P

    Why is Rikki kissing Dave Dumbstaine's butt?
    
        Why is EVERY band Rikki's FAVORITE band of all time?
    
         Why does Rikki have a leather jacket on this cat?
    
     These and other exciting newsbreaks on the next HBB!!!!!!!!!
    
     Why has  Mtv been running re-runs of the same HBB ?
    
               Frizkid
    

Coz Mustaine rules!!!!!

Who cares about the cat.

I hate reruns.  I want new videos and new groups.  I am still waited 
for some groups videos to be played.


							-Seth

    Seth.....
    
     Mustaine has such a bad attitude. He thinks he's god.
    
     Mr. Rikki wants to be their groupie and they always look down at
    him...
          Even I think that's funny because Rikki is a total dork!
    
              Frizkid
    

    
    Is it me, or does Ricky Rachtman think he's a trend setter.
    
    

    
    actually rikki knows he's a geek :') and is just capitolizing on what
    he can while he can...  or so im told by an LA friend.
    

    So he's trend setting *geekness*? :)
                                        Rat