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104.1 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | The mad axeman.... | Tue Jun 14 1988 05:54 | 23 |
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Hey, Ronnie, MY MAN.
Ronnie James Dio is a great guy. He's one of the top metal vocalists
but he doesn't have an ego problem. He's a very imaginative writer,
even though he does write mainly about fantasy (Rainbows etc..).
Fav. RJD albums:
Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell
Rainbow - Rising
Dio - Holy Diver
Dio - Last In Line
Dio - Sacred heart
Dio - Intermission
Dio - Dream Evil
He's amazing live and his band is real powerfull, I preffered Campbell
rather than Goldie, but what the heck Dio's Dio.
In my opinion the guy can do no wrong
-Yont
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104.2 | DIO | FILM::COLLINS | 47 More Days of Work | Tue Jun 14 1988 07:23 | 8 |
| I must say that I love to listen to Ronnie James Dio. I guess
it's the Medievil Lyrics and that angry sounding voice. I don't
like any of his Elf work though. It's too......Honky Tonk.......
I love him in Black Sabbath especially Die Young, Rainbow, The Man
on the Silver Mountain, Dio, any and all!
RJD is the King of Rock 'n Roll!
BC
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104.3 | Heavy Metal Eddie Munster !!! | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | No contest your honor ... | Tue Jun 14 1988 07:51 | 22 |
| Good topic. I always liked Dio and I think this is without a doubt,
HEAVY METAL, period. Vivian Cambell is one of my favorite guitar
players and I love that midrangey tone he gets, that's the kinda
sound I get with my set-up (Coop b*tches about it every practice).
My favorite Dio cuts are:
Don't talk to strangers - Holy Diver
Holy Diver - I forget what ablum ....
Evil Eyes - Last In Line
King of rock and roll - Sacred Heart
Beat of a heart - Sacred Heart
I haven't heard anything off of "Dream Evil" except "Could have
been a dreamer" (?) and it was typical Dio, which I like. I saw him
on an MTV concert once and the guy looks like a possesed Alf doll,
he looked about 4' tall. His affiliation with Hearing Aid turned
out what I thought was an excellent tune. I mean with the big guns
he had plying on it, it was destined to be hit. Bob Geldof eat
your heart out !!! Remember, "There's a beast that lives inside
you, and it's screaming LET ME OUT".
Mr Scary II
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104.4 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | The mad axeman.... | Tue Jun 14 1988 08:17 | 12 |
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Are there Dio videos available over there???
I've got two:
Live at the Spectrum and the Sacred Heart tour - both with Campbell
blastin' his ass off :-). He runs through a really awsome version
of Egypt.. on the Spectrum video.
-Tony
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104.5 | Dio -- the good and the lousy | MARKER::BUCKLEY | fast Paganini stuff can b a drag! | Tue Jun 14 1988 09:12 | 35 |
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I think Dio's great!
I really like his earlier work with Black Sabbath and the tracks
he did on Kerry Livgren's solo lp (which is cool cuz it was right
after Kerry became a born again christian and Kerry asked Ronnie
to sing the `devil' part).
I thought Ronnie did an admirable job of production on his first
two lps (hold diver & last in line), but his production techinques
really slacked off on Sacred Heart and Dream Evil. I think he needs
to hook up with a b*thcin producer to get him back on track.
I really prefer Viv to Graig Goldie anyday. Hey Jerry, I know how
to get the Viv tone to a T! ;^)
Videos are one of Dio's downfalls and I think it has to do with
budgets. His Rainbow in the dark and Holy Diver vid's are mega
low-budget, which is too bad. So are the vid's for rock n roll children
and last in line...they really could've done something cool if they
had the $$$. I don't like the Spectrum one either. I thought the
camera fottage was real shoddy, again, looks like a budget restriction.
What do you think of Dio's wife? She's really supportive and involved
in his work.
I thought the Hear n Aid thing was kinda bogus. Again, I didn't
like the production and/or the mix. Great musicians, buty the guitar
sounds for the most part were real lousy and the vocal sound was
nothing to write home about. They should have brought in a vertran
metal producer n enginner to help out if not run the thing entirely.
Like Martin Birch or Mutt Lange would have been nice, yeah, and
maybe Eddie Kramer or Tokes at the board!
Buck
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104.6 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | I'm going up, but NEVER down | Fri Jun 24 1988 08:51 | 7 |
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I've just read that Ronnie James Dio has sacked his touring band.
Anybody know anything about this ??
-Tony
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104.7 | Good move for Dio | INK::BUCKLEY | Yo, the MESSIAH by GFH Kicks total ass! | Fri Jun 24 1988 09:20 | 7 |
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If he did, it would be the best move he;s made in years!!
They were getting old and needed to be put out to pasture!
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104.8 | Dio Vid | AYOV11::MHOLLOWAY | | Wed Aug 10 1988 11:36 | 16 |
| Re:-104.4
I have a Dio video called Dio which was filmed in Holland during
the Holy Diver Tour. As said before his videos are of the low budget
variety but that does not detract from the excellence of his
performance.
Dio has been slagged off recently for just copying material from
his earlier days with Rainbow/Black Sabbath but since these bands
sounded nothing like him before/after he was in them how can he
be accused of copying since it was really his material anyway.
Any comments?
Mark
P.S. I know he was the original singer with Rainbow
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104.9 | Same sound - different day !!! | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Big Brother's watching you | Wed Aug 10 1988 12:21 | 10 |
| I think Dio's "sound" is totally unique. True he sounds now like
he did with Sabbath and Rainbow but look at it this way - his voice
is his instrument, it should sound the same ! As far as his writing
and the context of his songs - that's HIS mark, his place in the
industry, just like Dokken sounds like Dokken and Kingdom Come sounds
like Zeppelin (agagaga's .... ).
Mr Scary II
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104.10 | New album soon | USADEC::CLUETT | | Mon Aug 15 1988 12:44 | 7 |
| Hey DIO followers-
Ronnies new album should be released by late sept. early oct.
Lets hope he hits more places on his next tour.
Only New England appearance was at Providence ( Great Show )
Any more info will be greatly appreciated
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104.11 | RE: Dio album | SUBURB::DALLISON | Louder, I still have brain cells | Thu Aug 18 1988 08:23 | 8 |
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Are you sure about that ?? I heard that they haven't even started
WRITING for the new album, let alone thinking of releaseing it.
BTW - Its official, Craig Goldie has been sacked from Dio due to
"Musical Differences".
Bring back Vivian.
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104.12 | Another guitarist bites the dust | AYOV11::MHOLLOWAY | | Thu Aug 18 1988 09:22 | 9 |
| RE: 104.6
Dio has only sacked Graig Goldie from the band, the other members
are still there. The reason for the parting of ways is the usual
musical differances and Dio has stated that he is still looking
to regain the original 'fire' from the first album.
cheers
Mark
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104.13 | wake up | SUBURB::DALLISON | Louder, I still have brain cells | Thu Aug 18 1988 11:41 | 2 |
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thats what I've just said !!!!!!!
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104.14 | Goldie or Campbell | APOMFG::FISTER | | Tue Nov 29 1988 13:33 | 8 |
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I may be (and probably am), but I was under the impression
that the "Sacred Heart" video had Goldie in it. If not, I
may pick that one up...
Les
\8^)
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104.15 | | BUSY::KELLY | Eradicate the fascists.. 291-9089 | Tue Nov 29 1988 14:32 | 6 |
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It was Goldie in the vid...the guy is a madman. Did you check
out some of the fills he did...or some of that wammy action.
Bk
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104.16 | well it's due | MEDUSA::CLUETT | | Tue Nov 29 1988 15:38 | 4 |
| Any news on a new album by DIO and his 1000000 guitarist???
Just curious and waiting
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104.17 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | I'd buy that for a dollar! | Thu Dec 01 1988 05:06 | 3 |
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Dio are still looking for a new guitarist, he want someone from
Britain!! Sigh....the guy has taste ;-)
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104.18 | | 26922::WROTHBERG | Take hold of the flame! | Fri Dec 02 1988 01:21 | 9 |
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When I went to the Appice clinic, Vinnie said they were just about
decided. It was down to two choices and they would be making a
decision within a week. That was a couple of weeks ago. You sure
they still need one?
- Rob -
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104.19 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | get out of my helicopter | Mon Dec 05 1988 06:52 | 4 |
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Nope, I'm not *sure*, I could be wrong.
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104.22 | Just a rainbow in the dark.... | VIDEO::ALLAN | | Wed Mar 08 1989 20:24 | 6 |
| I read recently that Dio might be hanging up his rock & roll shoes
forever. Could this possibly be true?????? Anyone hear anything
about this?
Just wondering...
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104.23 | Like the beat of a heart ... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | The Cover KING !!! | Wed Mar 08 1989 23:35 | 5 |
| I hope not - he's probably just waiting for Vivian Campbell to come
back !
Scary
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104.24 | yuck | PARITY::STACIE | Don't start w/me, you know how I get! | Thu Mar 09 1989 07:28 | 18 |
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IMO, it would be a blessing. He's a little dwarf raisin who sings
like crap. IMO, of course.
Actually, last I heard from Tommy MacLendon, he was going to try
out for Dio's new band, but said it would have been awful. They
aren't a band, it's more like a corporation and that's how they
treat everyone. He said RJDs wife Wendy is Queen Tyrant of the
whole proceedings and that the whole experience seemed
less-than-desirable. I guess RJD (I think it was him) told Tommy
that he was trying to get Ronnie LeTekro (sp?) to join the band.
Tommy laughed when he heard that and so did I.. Yeah, right, RJ.
(PS-Ronnie LeTekro is the awesome dude from TNT)
Dio is washed up, IMO.
Dilly
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104.25 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | a slip of the tongue | Thu Mar 09 1989 08:09 | 9 |
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-1� IMO, it would be a blessing. He's a little dwarf raisin who sings
-1� like crap. IMO, of course.
I don't want to sound "flighty" Dilly, but not only is Dio one
of the best singers in the industry, he is also one of the best
songwriters too. He blows away the likes TNT and Winger.
IMHO
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104.26 | TNT is awesome! | PARITY::STACIE | Don't start w/me, you know how I get! | Thu Mar 09 1989 08:11 | 8 |
| he might blow away Winger, but not TNT.
I*M*O*
My new favorite thing to use to get myself out of whatever it is
I said...
Dilly
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104.27 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | a slip of the tongue | Thu Mar 09 1989 08:20 | 12 |
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Compare the two...
I've heard TNT, and Dio. Granted I've not heard everything TNT
put out, but are you saying that the TNT vocalist is better than
Dio ?? That the guitarist/s is better than Craig Goldie/Vivian
Campbell ?? Or that their bassist is better than Jimmy Bain ?? or
the drummer is better than Vinnie Apice ??
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think so some how.
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104.28 | Lightyears better | PARITY::STACIE | Don't start w/me, you know how I get! | Thu Mar 09 1989 08:48 | 18 |
| Tony, Tony, Tony
It's all a matter of opinion, but yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
I think Ronnie LeTekro (however you spell his name) is an amazing
guitar player, not better than Vivian Campbell (who is another of
my favorites) but WAY better than Craig Goldie. The first time
I heard one of the new Dio songs on the radio, before I knew who
it was I was laughing about how lame the guitar was (I think I
flipped it on in the middle of the solo). IMO Craig Goldie is
definitelya bottom-of-the-barrel guitar player.
I also love the singer of TNTs voice--much better than RJDs.
Miles above. Everything about RJD bugs me.
All IMHO
Dilly
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104.29 | can we all spell poseur ?? | CHEFS::DALLISON | a slip of the tongue | Thu Mar 09 1989 08:50 | 3 |
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Ah, well I suppose that RJD isn't all blonde hair and tan, thats
why.
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104.30 | That's It, That's It!!! | PARITY::STACIE | Don't start w/me, you know how I get! | Thu Mar 09 1989 08:55 | 14 |
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Excuse Me????????
Blonde hair and tans don't necessarily do it for me, Tone_tone.
It's skinny, long dark hair, big nose...The Joe Perry look.
Get it straight boy...
Dont' you be callin' me a poser lover, darlin'.
The vocalist of TNT sings well, I thought that before I even knew
what he looked like, so there.
Dilly
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104.34 | 10,000 lovers in 1 | SALEM::BUTKUS | But she's old enough for me. | Thu Mar 09 1989 09:04 | 8 |
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As a matter of fact TNT will be looking for a guitarist after
this tour, so a RJD/ Ronnie Lee Terko could be real possible.
Terko Blows away Vivian and Craig.
My two cents
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104.35 | Wow! | PARITY::STACIE | Don't start w/me, you know how I get! | Thu Mar 09 1989 09:08 | 16 |
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Really? I didn't think Ronnie Le Tekro (or whatever) would seriously
get into it, I mean TNT is on the uprising, and Dio on the
definite downslide.
Tone-Loc (now that I've found a hot spot you're bummin)
have you ever listened to the guitar on TNT? It's the
general consensus that Ronnie L. is supposed to be great.
He was awesome in concert, too.
Wow, Tommy told me that and I couldn't believe it. I can't believe
it might be true.
I just dont't understand
Dilly
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104.36 | | ANT::SLABOUNTY | Do ya wanna bump & grind with me? | Thu Mar 09 1989 09:32 | 13 |
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Ummm, you've gotta realize a couple things:
1) RJD is a VERY GOOD songwriter and an OK singer
2) The lead singer for TNT has an INCREDIBLE voice - RJD
can only dream of comparing to him
3) Why are we comparing RJD to TNT and Winger? They're
3 entirely different bands.
GTI
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104.38 | | ANT::SLABOUNTY | Do ya wanna bump & grind with me? | Thu Mar 09 1989 09:44 | 12 |
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RE: Pete
Judging by "Everyone's a Star", yes he does.
Ronnie's wife would hafta jump up and down on his
balls for a half hour to get his voice that high.
8^)
GTI
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104.40 | Quality ALWAYS prevails over quantity!! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I wish it was summertime all year! | Thu Mar 09 1989 10:19 | 23 |
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Here is yet another example of bogus examples of "what is good"...
ie, the singer who can sing the highest is the best....the guitarist
who can play the fastest is the best.
Singing range and finger dexterity does not a good musician make!
Personally, here are some examples that support my opinion this is
bogus:
o Michael Sweet - can sing REALLY high...but his tone is very nasal
sounding and he whines when he sings...great range, poor quality.
o Chris Impellitteri - can play really fast, but what he plays stinks
and he has an awful sound to boot! yawn.
Now, comparing RJD to the singer in TNT is stupid...Ronnie doesn't have
that guy's rrange, but then again the guy in TNT doesn't have ronnie's
powerful voice and unique singing style. The guitar greats, Blackmore
& Malmsteen for example, have said that if they were singers they would
want to sound just like RJD...that sould tell you something.
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104.41 | Buck--our first disagreement!! | PARITY::STACIE | Don't start w/me, you know how I get! | Thu Mar 09 1989 10:24 | 27 |
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Thank God they don't sing!!!!!!
Eeelllll.
Everything about RJD irks me. His wa-wa-wa-wa-wa voice, his STUPID
lyrics (ahhhh, the cross, drink from the chalice of the lords...
a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a the heavens, the dragon...)blah blah blah Ginger
(you know what I mean Motorbreath)
Way lame-o
I don't think I distort what is "good."
Hey I think Keith Richards is a "Good" singer.
So ha!
So what if he only has a range of 2 notes.
He's a rockin man. I think Joe P. is a "good" guitar player, and
he can't play 3 notes fast! He has feel and soul --or he used to.
I don't base it on notes per second, I don't know what I base it
on.
I just know what I like and it's hard for me to explian why.
Personal taste.
Dilly
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104.42 | | STING::FRANCINE | won't you be....my neighbor | Thu Mar 09 1989 10:43 | 13 |
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Personal taste is a serious thing.
But actual talent as would be rated by judges or whatever is something
else.
Someone may like someone better than whoever, but they might not
be better.
Know what I'm saying?
F.
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104.43 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | The wind song whispered a warning... | Thu Mar 09 1989 17:49 | 21 |
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My $0.02 . . .
RJD is probably THE best singer in the rock
industry today. Sure, he doesn't have the range
of TNT, but he definately has the training and
knows how to use his voice properly. It 5 years,
TNT will sound like a lovesick frog when he
destroys his voice. You don't have to like his
lyrics, but that's how the band is - medieval
metal. (MB, if you still see Poleki, ask him who
the best singer in rock is, and he'll tell you
Dio). As for guitar, TNT has a quick right hand,
but his left is awful (Assuming he's right
handed). I never liked VC or CG, but the TNT guy
is right in league with both of them.
- Rob basically repeating Buck's opinion -
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104.44 | ???? | VIDEO::ALLAN | Are you excitable? | Thu Mar 09 1989 20:46 | 4 |
| So I take it that nobody knows whether or not Dio is throwing in
the towel?
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104.45 | "Like a wheelchair in the dark" | CHEFS::DALLISON | a slip of the tongue | Mon Mar 13 1989 08:13 | 4 |
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I seriously doubt it.
Dio is like Ozzy - they'll both be rockin' in their old age.
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104.46 | Holy Driver ... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | The Cover KING !!! | Mon Mar 13 1989 23:35 | 6 |
| You know - Ronnie would be about 6 inches taller if he WAS in a
wheel chair ! Great title Tony ! I can see it now ... a wheelchair
with pentagrams for wheels ...
Scary
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104.47 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Stepping on the little people... | Thu May 11 1989 04:36 | 7 |
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Dio's new guitarists is 17 year old Rowan Robertson from Cambridge,
England - he was taught by Phil Halborne (UK guitarists will know
him as the chief contributor to Guitarist Magazine and writer of
numerous books including "What Guitar" and "Solo").
I can't believe a 17 year old got the gig.
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104.48 | REPLY FROM JAPAN! | TKTV05::AKAZAKI | TKTV05::AKAZAKI BLACK SABBATH | Wed Jun 21 1989 02:56 | 11 |
| Hi!
My name is Akihiro Akazaki.
I send from JAPAN.
I like DIO very much.
THAKS!
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104.49 | Is the Wise man always wise? | DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAME | | Fri Jun 23 1989 14:02 | 21 |
| Ronnie James Dio has one of the best, if not the best voice in the
industry. In my opinion the most unbiased measure of a performers
talent is the effect they have on their audience. Obviously if they
are good people will enjoy them and buy their album. If they are
not as good they will not enjoy the same commercial success. If this
is the case, where does that put TNT? I don't hear much about them.
As a matter of fact I don't think I've ever heard any of their music.
But if it's better than RJD then I certainly want to! Enough Dio
defending. My favorite album is Holy Diver. I don't think he's
done any better since that one. His work with Sabbath and Rainbow
is excellent. Sign of the Southern Cross is incredible. Does anyone
have any news on a new album? Is it true he has chosen a 17 year old
as lead axe?! In one of the earlier replies someone stated that the
only show Dio played in New England was in Providence. I saw him New
Years day 1988 in Portland, Maine. The show was fantastic, but short.
Does anyone have any Dio Lyrics they could send? Any and all would
be much appreciated. After all his vocals are what make him special.
Long live the King of Rock-n-Roll!
Jammin Jim
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104.50 | hm birthday | NEMSS::KOSAKOWSKI | Lost in time and out of season | Mon Jul 10 1989 14:01 | 7 |
| A special guest appearance back in this file to let ya all
know, (just in case you didn't... :-)
that 2day is Ronnie James Dio's 40th birthday,
Rock on!
sledge
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104.51 | May he rock on into eternal skies. | DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAME | | Mon Jul 10 1989 14:52 | 7 |
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Long Live Rock-n-Roll! Has anyone heard anything about a new
album? Happy birthday to RJD!
JAmmin JIm who rediscovered just how kick-*ss "Sacred Heart" is
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104.52 | | USCTR1::KGALLANT | Girl, you must resist... | Fri Jul 28 1989 09:31 | 9 |
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Seems Dio has a new guitarist. Rowan Robertson
He's only 17 !!!! Dio is his first band.
Makes me feel, well, sorta old. (8
Tigga~~~
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104.53 | New Album? | DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAME | | Fri Jul 28 1989 10:20 | 9 |
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Tigga~~~,
Where did you read this? Is there any more info. on a new album?
I appreciate any info. at all.
Thanks,
Jim
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104.54 | | USCTR1::KGALLANT | Girl, you must resist... | Fri Jul 28 1989 10:27 | 10 |
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I read it in the November issue of Metal Edge. There wasn't
much info other than that. It was a small paragraph under
a picture of Rowan and Mark Slaughter.
If and when I hear more, I'll post it.
Tigga~~z
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104.56 | | DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAME | | Fri Jul 28 1989 12:46 | 4 |
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Long live the king of Rock'n'Roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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104.57 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | | Sat Jul 29 1989 07:03 | 18 |
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Incase you guys missed this (Tigga obviously did 8^) ) I'll re-post
it 8^) .
<<< IRDEV::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]HEAVY_METAL.NOTE;1 >>>
-< Ready to crash and burn ... I'll never learn. >-
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Note 104.47 Dio 47 of 56
CHEFS::DALLISON "Stepping on the little people..." 7 lines 11-MAY-1989 03:36
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Dio's new guitarists is 17 year old Rowan Robertson from Cambridge,
England - he was taught by Phil Halborne (UK guitarists will know
him as the chief contributor to Guitarist Magazine and writer of
numerous books including "What Guitar" and "Solo").
I can't believe a 17 year old got the gig.
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104.58 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Addicted to that rush | Mon Aug 21 1989 04:45 | 8 |
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Quote from Dio :-
"David (Coverdale) came round to rehearsals to see what Rowan was
like and he said 'How old are you ? eleven ?' and Rowan replied
'I'm as old as you wish you were!'".
Classic !
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104.59 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | They've shut down the main reactors! | Mon Aug 21 1989 14:28 | 13 |
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My friend just went out to LA to visit an old
buddy of ours. This guy was a great guitarist
and even played for Waysted [sp?] for a while.
Funny thing is that his roommate in LA is the new
guitarist for Dio. Wik [our friend-nickname of
course] studied guitar in England and this guy is
phenominal. He says his roommate blows him away.
I can't wait to hear this guy. I want new Dio!
- Rob -
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104.60 | | USCTR1::KGALLANT | Sparks fly from her fingertips... | Sun Nov 05 1989 17:17 | 8 |
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(reprinted from Metal Edge without permission)
....Rock shakeups: Ronnie Dio fired bassist Jimmy Bain and
keyboardist Claude Schnell (Jens Johanssen is in on keys, no
bass replacement yet)
Tigga~~~
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104.61 | She was straight from Hell... | DNEAST::GEIGER_KIM | | Tue Dec 26 1989 11:46 | 5 |
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Any more info on a new album?
JaMmin Jim
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104.62 | Extra! Extra! Hot off the Press!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | DNEAST::GEIGER_KIM | | Tue Dec 26 1989 13:38 | 50 |
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RE:last
I just finished reading an interview with Dio and his new guitarist
Rowan Robertson in this month's issue of Metal Scene Magazine. The
work on the new album is near completion with 8 tracks finished and
about 3 more to go. Look for a March release date. Dio will not be
producing this one; although to say he will play a large part in the
production is an understatement. This album is supposed to have a
heavier feel to it; the softness of the last outing according to RJD
was due in part to the playing style of Craig Goldie. Dio only spoke
of one of the tracks, a song entitled "Hey Angel". It concerns suicide
and its effects on people in general--focusing on in Dio's words, "The
waste of life." Throughout the interview RJD stressed that the
choosing of Rowan for lead guitar was based on his phenomenal playing
ability and the easiness in which he meshed with the other band
members. Claude Schnell and Jimmy Bain are both gone with Dio
commenting that a keyboard player was not absolutely necessary
but that it was nice to have the capability to add touches of light
or dark to the music when desired. All in all the interview was a good
one bringing all the Dio faithful up to date with what The MAN ON THE
SILVER MOUNTAIN has been up to these past two years. This has been
the JaMmin express, until the next time...reach for the stars and stay
hungry for heaven. Over and out.
JaMmin Jim (Info gleaned from the Jan. 1990 issue of Metal Scene Sans
Permission.)
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104.63 | | IOSG::PERKINS | It's better to burn out than to fade away! | Mon Jan 22 1990 11:36 | 5 |
| Ronnie James Dio has sacked drummer Vinnie Appice. AC/DC's Simon
Wright is supposed to take over the drumming chores on the new record
but he will not be touring.
Flip
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104.65 | | DECXPS::BOURQUE | It only happens if you believe | Mon Jan 22 1990 12:04 | 7 |
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Dio dumped Vinnie,, WOW! how but Jimmy Baine I figured the 3 to
be insepretable,,Vinnie went with Dio after the two left Sabbath
tama
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104.67 | | LEVERS::STROUT | knocking on heaven's door... | Mon Jan 22 1990 13:28 | 7 |
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So RJD dumped: Claude Schnell, Jimmy Baine, Vivian Campbell
and Vinny Appice...
basically all of dio (minus one RJD of course)...
congrats Ron...
sean
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104.68 | | FACVAX::BUCKLEY | Cards for sorrow | Mon Jan 22 1990 13:35 | 1 |
| Wise move IMHO!
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104.69 | | LEVERS::STROUT | knocking on heaven's door... | Mon Jan 22 1990 13:47 | 2 |
| wise move? surely you jest...
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104.70 | | IOSG::PERKINS | It's better to burn out than to fade away! | Mon Jan 22 1990 13:53 | 4 |
|
Who's Shirley?!?!?!
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104.71 | every one knows that one! | LEVERS::STROUT | knocking on heaven's door... | Mon Jan 22 1990 14:11 | 1 |
| dio's new bassist :)
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104.72 | | FACVAX::BUCKLEY | Cards for sorrow | Mon Jan 22 1990 15:02 | 7 |
| No, I do not jest...and DON'T call me Shirley!
Appice was a LAME drummer, Bain had seen his better R&R days in
Rainbow, Schnell was a useless side-man...he NEEDED a new band with new
blood!
I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to offer!
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104.73 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Minor code 16: car vs guardrail | Mon Jan 22 1990 15:07 | 8 |
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It'll be interesting to see how Dio plays all the instr-
uments himself.
At least he HAD a band!!
GTI
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104.75 | | DASXPS::BOURQUE | It only happens if you believe | Mon Jan 22 1990 15:11 | 5 |
|
Vinnie is a good drummer,,,,Although I feel Carmine has by far more
Creativity
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104.76 | | ASAHI::COOPER | Can you hear me Major Tom ? | Mon Jan 22 1990 15:13 | 6 |
| I think they are both okay drummers...
Who cares ?? Most studio work these days use computers anyhow...
I like RJD. Go get 'em boy !
jc
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104.77 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Everybody'sGot2DeviateFromTheNorm | Mon Jan 22 1990 17:39 | 12 |
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Both Appices blow. The drum clinic I went to
with the two of them was the lamest thing I had
ever seen. I missed the Vinnie Moore clinic
because of it!!
- Rob -
...and Carmine, shave off that STUPID
moustache!!!
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104.78 | flab rock ? | CHEFS::DALLISON | Don't talk with your mouth full... | Tue Jan 23 1990 03:33 | 7 |
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Best move RJD has made since he dropped Goldie.
He needs new life in the band, and whilst RJD is no spring chicken
himself, the others were growing old and fat.
Good 'un Ronnie!!!!!
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104.80 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | No More Mr Nice Guy | Tue Jan 23 1990 09:27 | 7 |
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Maybe cozs it hot.
The drummer in my band has to tie his hair back, coz he ends up
with in his eys/mouth and it nearly chokes him.
-Tone
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104.81 | new bass player | 52494::LALLI | Didier - BCE Valbonne - DTN 828.5423 | Tue Feb 06 1990 03:31 | 3 |
| Dio's new bass player is Toby Cook.
Didier
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104.82 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Hemi-demi-semi-quaver, it tastes curly | Tue May 01 1990 13:45 | 13 |
|
I picked up a four cut tape of stuff from the new Dio album from
my rep over the weekend.
The tracks are "Born on the Sun", "My Eyes" and two others which
I can't remeber the names of.
Overall, RJ's vioce is still as strong as ever, and the new young
guitarist (Rowan Robertson) from Cambridge, England, is pretty good
but the songs are still drab, boring and lack the b*lls that made
'Holy Diver' such a kick a$$ album.
Ronnie's lost it !
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104.83 | | LEVERS::STROUT | Sin�ad O'Connor meets The Simpsons! | Tue May 01 1990 13:53 | 7 |
| Thanks for the review. Are Vinnie Appice and Jimmy Bain still
with the band? I was really unimpressed by the Dream Evil album
(choir boys singing on "All the Fool Sailed Away"???? Give me a
BREAK!!! 8^) I was also hoping Dio would return to the more
traditional Holy Diver, Last in Line format.
sean_who_says_"stand_up_and_shout"_roolz!!!
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104.84 | | ASAHI::SCARY | I'm noting, and I can't log out ! | Tue May 01 1990 21:16 | 3 |
| Yep, The "Holy Diver" and "Last In Line" days are loooong gone.
Scary (gotta get away ...)
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104.85 | | 42443::DALLISON | Hemi-demi-semi-quaver, it tastes curly | Thu May 03 1990 13:35 | 11 |
|
Another one of the tracks on the tape is called "Evil on Queen
Street". Shos how good the tape is huh.. I can't even remember
the name of 4 tracks!!
I dunno about the line-up, its SOUNDS like the same groove that
Appice and Bain put out, but the tape has no line-up mentioned on
it (but I *know* the guitarist isn't Craig Goldie 8^) ).
Cheers,
-Tony ( still stuck on a lab course 8^( ).
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104.86 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | The Water Buffalo Grand Poobah | Thu May 03 1990 20:17 | 6 |
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But hopefully the stage show will be as great as
ever! I admit, Dio has gone downhill, but I
still liked his last couple of albums.
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104.87 | | LEVERS::STROUT | no hero in your tragedy... | Fri May 04 1990 10:46 | 4 |
| The Sacred Heart tour completely blew me away. That dragon
was AWESOME!! Vinny with the 360� drum set. Campbell was still
with Dio. The massive laser show. The TOONZ! Those were the days...
8^)
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104.89 | love those lasers | CHEFS::DALLISON | Get yer hands off me, sucker | Sun May 06 1990 12:19 | 4 |
|
Yo Rob, I gotta agree - the guy sure knows how to put a show on,
and talking of whch, I just picked up tickets to see him at Hammersmith
Odeon - should be a good 'un.
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104.90 | yeeeeehaaa!!!!! | CHEFS::DALLISON | Little Chops of Horror | Fri May 11 1990 15:42 | 18 |
|
Well, I got the new album (the whole of it) and its not bad, like
I said, it pales on comparison to his old stuff but I guess I shouldn't
really be comparing old/new anymore - long gone.
Anyway, I got a phone call today from a mate at the local radio
station who does the local Rock program, and he has invited me to
come in and meet a very special guest he has coming in for a live
interview ...
Yup, you've guessed it ...
The short man himself, Ronnie James Dio!!!
I *finally* get to meet the man himself, in my home town.
I gotta go, I'n gonna wet my pants !!!!
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104.91 | | LEVERS::STROUT | no hero in your tragedy... | Fri May 11 1990 15:45 | 2 |
| Tony. what was the name of the album anyways? I think I missed
it. thanks.
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104.92 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Little Chops of Horror | Fri May 11 1990 15:52 | 9 |
|
Hi,
The album's called "Lock up the Wolves" and the songs relate more
to real life situations, as apposed to stumbling around in a dungeon
with 40 foot dragons chasing you 8^).
Cheers,
-Tony
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104.93 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Turn around&walk the razors edge... | Sat May 12 1990 11:56 | 5 |
|
Too bad, I like Medieval Metal...
:')
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104.94 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Little Chops of Horror | Mon May 14 1990 09:20 | 10 |
|
Well, I met the guy in the studio on Saturday and he was the
nicest (and shortest!) bloke I've ever met!!
He signed all my albums and tour programs and even asked If I'd like
to have my picture taken with him, so I have pics of us too!
We talked about the new lineup and he told some really funny stoires.
Dio - The nicest guy in rock and roll !!
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104.95 | More info | JUPITR::WCLUETT | Heavy Metal Mental BREAKDOWN | Mon May 14 1990 15:49 | 4 |
| what will his US tour consist of - Arenas or Concert Halls...
Will it be as imaginable as his last tours...
Any info will be appreciated
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104.96 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Little Chops of Horror | Tue May 15 1990 07:57 | 3 |
|
Sorry mate - I dunno, I'm in England 8^).
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104.97 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | They call me Dr. Love | Fri Jun 01 1990 17:26 | 10 |
|
Dio's new song is called "Wild One", and I guess it's sup-
posed to be dedicated to Marlon Brando.
Does anyone know who's on guitar for this song and/or album?
I didn't recognize him when I saw the video.
GTI
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104.98 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Mon Jun 04 1990 06:40 | 3 |
|
Rowan Robertson, 18 years old from Cambridge, England - uses Jackson
guitars exclusively.
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104.99 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | They call me Dr. Love | Mon Jun 04 1990 09:28 | 11 |
|
Thanks Tony!!
I was just going to add that today, because Lita Ford ment-
ioned his name on the HBB Saturday night.
The kid sounds pretty good ... maybe not as good as Viv, but
still impressive.
GTI
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104.100 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Jun 04 1990 10:13 | 2 |
| I still think Rowan has a Les Paul or 2 stuck in the closet somewhere
he pulls out when nobody's around.
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104.101 | ! | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Sun Jun 10 1990 10:55 | 9 |
| Duh...
I saw saw the Dio guitarist on Ball last night.
he didn't say anything but another guy said he picked him out of 5000
tapes people sent in.
I 'd send in a tape if I knew what rags these guys advertised the
audition in. Like Variety or Bam or what?
Guitarist is excellent! Nice thick sound.
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104.102 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | If I only had a brain. | Mon Jun 11 1990 08:50 | 10 |
|
>I saw saw the Dio guitarist on Ball last night.
>he didn't say anything but another guy said he picked him out of 5000
>tapes people sent in.
Ummm, that other guy was Dio.
GTI
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104.103 | dio | JUPITR::WCLUETT | Heavy Metal Mental BREAKDOWN | Mon Jun 11 1990 09:32 | 4 |
| Dio should be hitting the states in the next month or so...
With the Centrum closed till late August, I will need to
know of a Provy date...
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104.104 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Jun 11 1990 09:35 | 1 |
| Well I'll Say! do u no how he solicited tapes?
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104.105 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Turn around&walk the razors edge... | Mon Jun 11 1990 22:18 | 4 |
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Why is the Centrum closed???
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104.106 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Tue Jun 12 1990 04:58 | 7 |
|
re: toe
Rowan sent Dio a tape, and Wendy Dio (Ronnies wife) asked Rowan
for more material, so Rowan sent Ronnie a video of him playing!!
Ronnie then flew Rowan over to the US and they jammed and he gotthe
gig.
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104.107 | centrum being closed for repairs | CRBOSS::NICOLAZZO | | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:07 | 6 |
| Now, Rob, didn't we answer that same question before?
nay (Yes, I come from a boring town, but at least I don't ask
questions that have already been answered!!
nay
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104.108 | | PEKING::WRANG | Schism - SK - SK - SK | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:28 | 4 |
|
8^)
Flip
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104.109 | | CRBOSS::NICOLAZZO | | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:45 | 4 |
| Yeah, ok Flip.
nay
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104.110 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Turn around&walk the razors edge... | Tue Jun 12 1990 21:59 | 12 |
|
Re: .107
Sorry, my next unseen hadn't found the note on
the Centrum before I replied to ask about it.
Once I did read it, I forgot where I put this
note and didn't care to go searching for it...
So pfttthhhhhH!!!!!
:')
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104.111 | Dio in Provy-- Waste of $16.50 | JUPITR::WCLUETT | SIGNS,SIGNS,EVERYWHERE ARE SIGNS | Mon Aug 06 1990 12:11 | 18 |
| Just a small review from last nites show at Providence...
Y&T did not show....
Yngwie Malmsteen - good show but his EGO was too much for the stage he
played on...
Dio- Not bad stage show- selections of songs was poor- Played almost
everything from the new album- nothing from Sacred Heart or Dream Evil.
Guitarist wasn't bad for a youngin. Keyboardist got blown up...
Drummer and bassist was just there... Dio's voice - strong as it ever
was. No lasers lots of pyro.
Crowd of maybe only 4-5,000.
Overall grade -- C-
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104.112 | | BUSY::LABOUNTY_FIS | I'm a nitroglycerin mixture ... | Mon Aug 06 1990 12:49 | 7 |
|
Basically, concerts are used to promote the band's new al-
bum. You've got to expect a slew of new material, and a
selection of older stuff ... unfortunately.
GTI
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104.113 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Aug 06 1990 13:45 | 5 |
| They might be in some cases, but they're some people who give concerts
for the what the hey this is fun of it. Like Paul McCartney.
What characteristics of the Yng's performance did you find Egotistical?
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104.114 | Yng-why | JUPITR::WCLUETT | SIGNS,SIGNS,EVERYWHERE ARE SIGNS | Mon Aug 06 1990 13:54 | 9 |
| Yng's performance:
He had to get into the spotlight as much as possible...
At one time he motioned to the other band members to get off stage for
one of his many solos..
He must have gone through 100 picks... Every 5 sec. he was tossing one
out to the crowd. Ripping apart his guitar strings towards the end of
the show was real tacky. You knew from the start that it was HIS band.
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104.116 | Yawn | ICS::BUCKLEY | I Wanna Be Your Man! | Mon Aug 06 1990 14:25 | 11 |
| Yo Wayne...
I wuz there, albeit a tad late...missed most of Ynwgie's set (sounds
like I didn't miss much). I agree with your C - grade for the Dio
set. I've seen Dio many times in the past, and I definitly think he's
headed downhill! I missed last year's Dream Evil tour, but I thought
it was the beginning of the end when Craig Goldie replaced Vivian for
the 2nd leg of the Sacred Heart tour!
R.I.P.
B.
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104.117 | Where are they playing next? | TOLKIN::DEMEO | | Mon Aug 06 1990 15:57 | 10 |
| Does anyone know where they will be playing next?
My sister wants to see Yngwie. I heard he's playing in Portland Maine
Saturday, but she has tickets for Clapton that night.
Anyone got info on other gigs?
BTW: Is Yngwie playing with Dio or has he got his own band?
Thanx
Dan
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104.118 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Aug 06 1990 16:17 | 5 |
| Yng outa use delrin picks, I can fry a plastic fender EASY in 5
minutes. Delrins seem to last until I loose 'em.
How was the new guitarist for Dio, it must have been the kid
they found a little while ago.
Did he play better than Yng?
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104.120 | | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | Give a little | Mon Aug 06 1990 16:27 | 12 |
| re: picks
I think you missed the point. They didn't say he was breaking them,
they said he was constantly tossing them into the audience...
Is a Delrin one of those giant thick things you sent me with one of
those guitarnotes tapes? If so, that's the thickest pick I've ever
seen! Not often you see a hunk of plastic thicker then a quarter like
that...
gh
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104.121 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | I Wanna Be Your Man! | Mon Aug 06 1990 16:52 | 6 |
| RE a few back...
Dio has his own band and Yngwie has his! I don't think they could EVER
play in the same band toegther (egos)!!
I believe Dio/Yng played in Portland ME **LAST** saturday, anyways
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104.122 | "It just takes a minute..." | MAMIE::RCOLLINS | George Bush: liar! | Mon Aug 06 1990 16:59 | 20 |
|
>>Not often you see a hunk of plastic thicker then a quarter
I use Dunlop 2.00 mm's. Filed to a fine point. Not a guitar pick,
it's a guitar brick.
RE: Yngwie
Sounds like the same Yngwie I saw with Triumph a few years back.
I like him a lot, but, I wish he would give his band more limelight.
RE: Dio
I really didn't like Dream Evil either. I haven't heard much of the
new one so I really couldn't give my opinion.
R.C.
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104.123 | OK | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Aug 06 1990 17:07 | 7 |
| Delrins come in alot of thicknesses, that purple thing I sent you ,
I'm not sure what it was, but I like 'em.
Dio has a new guitar player in his band and I was wondering how he did,
not that Yng played with Dio. Yng is So Good Nobody wants to play with
him, probably. I was wondering if the new Dio player sounded any better
than Yng.
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104.124 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Mon Aug 06 1990 17:10 | 8 |
| Oh, what I meant when I said I fry picks is that I wear them down.
I can say I can't remember ever breaking a pick, but I can wear them
down real fast given certain tunes.
As for breaking strings, not too much do I do that .
Which reminds me, my classical strings are going over a year old now,
gotta get some more one of these months.
I boiled the last last set ( yes! Nylons! ) and it didn't seem to
wreak 'em any, and they were clean.
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104.125 | Long Live.. Rock and Roll..Not lets go home and have a Beer!!! | DASXPS::PLAFOND | Zero Hours | Mon Aug 06 1990 17:21 | 25 |
| RE: .121
<I believe Dio/Yng played in Portland ME. **LAST** saturday,anyways
Yup! I missed Y&T,But caught the end of Yngwie solo and the last
song "Heaven Tonight".I thought he's a good showman and for the
band,the singer who sang on John Norum's solo tape has a very
good voice! The place was packed!! Ha! ha! Cumberland Civic Center
is not that big at all.
Dio did Tarot Woman off of Rainbow Rising ballsey tune!
It cool that Dio brought out a young kid (18yrs old), Jen Joehanson
on the keys, A very good keysmen and a good friend of Yngwie!
P.S Sampled harmonies in the beg.
of "Heaven Tonight".
Well so long !
:')
P.I.
i
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104.126 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Only 13mo til I can drive again! | Wed Aug 08 1990 01:12 | 46 |
|
Well, being a diehard Yng and Dio fan, I couldn't
miss this show. Unfortunately, I included Y&T in
my schedule, so I ended up catching the last 15
seconds of the Yng show :'(. Ego or not, I love
his tunes.
Dio... dio, dio, dio...
He seems to have lost just a BIT of financial
backing for this album... No lasers, no robots
or dragons or light swords, not much of a stage
set either. Just an imitation dinosaur rib cage.
No pyramids or castles or giant daemons. The
lights that he did have though (tons of
cannisters) were very nice. Too bad I can't say
the same for his musical selection. Not ever
having heard his new album, I didn't even know
most of the songs. I also never liked Rainbow,
so those were no good either. Same goes with
Sabbath. I just wanted to hear Dio. He usually
plays a fair amount of older stuff, but this year
as previously mentioned, he played nothing from
Sacred Heart of Dream Evil. Just We Rock, Holy
Diver, Don't Talk to Strangers, Last in Line and
Rainbow in the Dark. Buck, I looked all over for
you... I'd have to up the attendence a bit from
the amount mentioned in the previous note to
something on the order of maybe 7000-8000 people.
The stage was moved out so it was almost in the
middle of the floor.
Final prognosis: The show was musically well
done. His new guitarist is up to the job, the
keyboarddist was psyched 'cause he actually got
to do a solo (note that this was Yngwie's old
keyboardist), however, Dio better start selling
some albums or he's gonna be the last in line at
the unemployment office. I was bummed with the
light show. It's been so spectacular every other
time I've seen him.
...sigh... Merlin ...
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104.127 | begood to the mob | SCOBIE::BHASTY | | Wed Jul 17 1991 16:08 | 7 |
| Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumor or facts that
Ronnie has dis-banded the band DIO and gone back to sing with Black
Sabbath?????? I thought he left B.Sabbath because there wasn't enough
room for both his and Iommi's heads on the same tour bus!!!
The "B."
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104.128 | can't wait | CAVLRY::BUCK | c'mon baby lets go for a ride | Wed Jul 17 1991 16:11 | 9 |
| -1
It's all true. Roonie is currently in pre-production with the Sabs
for a new lp, scheduled for late fall/winter release. Tony I and
Ronnie JD got together and worked out their differences...i guess a
few years down the road and a lost of money lost on poor album sales/
concerts will do wonders for a failing relationship! ;^)
Buck, who thought Sab ROCKED with Dio at the helm!
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104.129 | I am Ironman... | SCOBIE::BHASTY | | Thu Jul 18 1991 17:09 | 9 |
| I would have to agree with you there Sabbbath was great with Dio ...
Will be definetly looking forward to the new LP.!!
The"B."
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104.130 | | 7892::ESCOBAR | Wherever I May Roam | Wed Feb 03 1993 11:24 | 3 |
|
Looks like he's on his own again.
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104.131 | seemed fitting | KDX200::ROBR | Morning comes too early... | Wed Feb 03 1993 11:43 | 5 |
|
he's on the run again, on the run again, tell me when will it end???
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104.132 | New Album | SUBPAC::PUTNAM | | Wed Jun 29 1994 12:15 | 1 |
| What do people think of his new album with Jeff Pilson on Bass?
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104.133 | | GOES11::HOUSE | How could I have been so blind? | Wed Jun 29 1994 12:19 | 3 |
| I heard one song on the radio and thought it was a yawner.
gh
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104.134 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Is this p_n great or what? | Wed Jun 29 1994 12:48 | 4 |
|
After 1 listen it's typical Dio stuff.
GTI
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104.135 | | METALX::SWANSON | Ride The Lightning | Wed Jun 29 1994 13:54 | 7 |
| I thinks it's worse than typical DIO stuff. It's pretty bad I think.
On the other hand, the new Black Sabbath album is pretty good. (by
comparison anyway)
|KS|
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104.136 | shite! | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Venimus, Vidimus, Coastimus | Wed Jun 29 1994 16:04 | 1 |
| In memory/abscene of Ian
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104.137 | | SUBPAC::GOLDIE | Over my head | Wed Jun 29 1994 17:35 | 8 |
| hahahahahaha!
I've created a monster! 8)
ian
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104.138 | | LUDWIG::LUCHT | Breathe deep the darkness inside you | Wed Nov 20 1996 20:52 | 17 |
104.139 | week and a half | DSPAC9::FENNELL | Nothing is planned by the sea and the sand | Wed Nov 20 1996 21:47 | 3 |
104.140 | | LUDWIG::LUCHT | Breathe deep the darkness inside you | Wed Nov 20 1996 23:10 | 6 |
104.141 | | BUSY::SLAB | Catch you later!! | Thu Nov 21 1996 08:34 | 3 |
104.142 | | SUBPAC::GOLDIE | Resident Alien | Thu Nov 21 1996 09:40 | 7 |
104.143 | | STRATA::LUCHT | Breathe deep the darkness inside you | Fri Nov 22 1996 18:30 | 8 |
104.144 | | STRATA::LUCHT | Breathe deep the darkness inside you | Thu Dec 05 1996 01:59 | 14 |
104.145 | | MKOTS3::ELMAKISS | | Tue Dec 10 1996 20:54 | 11 |
104.146 | | BUSY::SLAB | Cracker | Wed Dec 11 1996 09:21 | 5 |
104.147 | | MKOTS3::ELMAKISS | | Wed Dec 11 1996 20:41 | 4
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