Conference napalm::heavy_metal

                
                Rush is definately one of my favorites.  Although
                not metal (except  maybe  Tom Sawyer), they would
                have to be at the top of my favorites list.
                

    
    	   Well, now... you have to admit, they're good for a 
    	three-man group.  Whether they're metal or not is debatable.
    	Perhaps it's safe to say that they are Canadian metal.
    
    	- Greg

    
        Include 'Working Man' as a Rush Metal song.
    
        And it's probably my favorite by them.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    I don't know if you classify RUSH as HM but they are definitely
    heavy, if not metal.  2112 is a prime example.  Their stuff sounds
    like instrumentals with words.  Geddy's voice is annoying at best
    but it wouldn't be RUSH without it.  From a musicians standpoint,
    their stuff is deep, very deep.  Rush of jazz is a good HM diversion
    for me, and I think I like everything they have ever done.
    
    
    				Mr Scary II
    

    
    
    I bought the "Prime mover" single....
    waste of money  

    No Taste .... You'll get over it some day !
    
    {If its to loud your brain left years ago ! }
    
    Derm

    Rush isn't heavy metal, but they are a three-man rock band without
    equal !  Anyone who can play bass pedals, sing, play bass (and very
    well, I might add!) and play keys is awesome.  Also, I think most
    drummers will agree that Neil Peart is one of the best, as well
    as Lifeson and Lee.  Check it out in concert; they don't miss a
    note !
    
    JC

    
    re:6
    � ....No brain....
    
    I RESENT THAT COMMENT.
    anyway, whats a brain??
    
    ;^)

    
           I would classify Rush more as a hard rock band. They changed
    after Moving Pictures. I love all their albums up to Moving Pictures.
    After that I respect their musicianship but am bored by their albums.
    
           Peart is one of the finest drummers. Lifeson is a great
    guitarist with a sort of unique style. Lee is great bassist who
    can sing at such high pitches that dogs squeal. 
    
                                                     Rich

    Dermot,
    
    I can safely say that your musical sophistication far exceeds your
    table manners.
    
    Congratulations on an excelent choice of brain damage.  Knock it on 
    the 'ead!                                                
    
    Mines a pint!
    Jim

    Rush is great!!! no more of this quivelling over if they are heavy
    metal.They mellowed out but still are Rush.How about some Hemisperes,
    Cygnus X-1,Book I and II stuff.If I were to"classify" this I'd call
    if Sci-Fi rock if anything,But I'd still call it great!

    
    A question for Rush CD owners.             
    
    I bought "All the world's Stage" on CD, and I discovered that they
    removed the last song (can't remember the title!) from the vinyl
    LP to make it as a single CD.
    
    Well tell me if you know it, what they did remove from 
    "exit stage left..." to do the same  ?
    
    Thanx
    
    			Didier  "Red Barchetta"

    Here is an answer to Jeff question in another topics (new Release ?).

    RUSH real albums (no bootlegs or whatever)
    The order is almost good IMO.
		 ------


	1. Rush
	2. Fly by Night
	3. Caress Of Steel
	4. 2112
	5. All the world's stage  (live)
	6. Hemisphere
	7. A farewell to Kings
	8. Permanent Waves
	9. Moving Pictures
       10. Exit...left stage
       11. Signals
       12. Grace Under Pressure
       13. Power Windows
       14. Hold Your Fire
       15. This new live album your are talking about. Never heard of it
	   but very glad.


	Hope I'm right, and don't hesitate to correct me.

	    Didier  

    I knew I could count on ya Didier !
    
    Hey thanx for the french metal.  It's hot !
    
    jc

    Thanks Didier,
    
    	Now I can check to see what ones I'm missing. :^)
    
    METALord"

                
                Oops, I did it too .  .  .  only not in order.  I
                suppose it really belongs here.
                
                - Rob (who  is  going  to  go get the new Anthrax
                       today hebcause I couldn't  find  it  on CD
                       yesterday.  $11.99 at Strawberries!)
                
                

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    NEW RUSH ALBUM CALLED "A SHOW OF HANDS" TO APPEAR
    AROUND OCTOBER 17TH.
    
    
    SHOULD BE GREAT !!!
    
    
    ALL THE LATEST AND GREATEST STUFF,
    
    
    SUBDIVISIONS
    RED SECTOR A
    MANHATTAN PROJECT
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    i had trouble entering this note many times over do to network
    partner exited.
    
    i really meant to make it clear that this will be A LIVE ALBUM
    not a new studio album. (obviously by the songs that are on it).
    i just got frustrated typing the message over and over and 
    forgot to mention the word "LIVE ALBUM".
    
    SO ANYWAY,
    
    
    there is a new LIVE album coming soon, called "A SHOW OF HANDS".
    
    
    D.G.

    the new rush album(a show of hands)was to be released oct 17 
    it has been pushed back to an indefinite date.....that date
    source does tell me will be jan.or feb.
     
    barney
    

    	I just hope it turns out better than they're last one! I'd like
    to see some "old" rush reflected in they're new one......
    
    	Don't you's ?

    Yeah,
    
    	I gotta admit it I have been disappointed with the latest releases
    From Rush. Although I saw them in Glasgow on the Hold Your Fire
    tour and did enjoy it.
    
    
    				BONZO.

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      Hi all of you HM's, I just found this file and I think you are
    all pretty funny ( in a good way ) ya know CRAZY....... ya whoooooo!
    
    Anyway, I was wondering if any of you remember when RUSH played
    at the Fitchburg theatre in I think 78 or 79 ????? I was just starting
    to get into kick ass rock and roll and I will never forget that
    concert as long as I live. The place only holds about 700 people
    so we had our own personal concert. it was great..... I even got
    pinched in the ass for the very first time.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
    
      well, see ya round the file....
                                          Jules

    The release date for the Rush video 'A show of hands' has slipped
    again, apparently there's a hold up of the master tapes reaching
    the UK.
    
    
    Flip

    
    The following is a record review of Rush's "A Show of Hands" by
    Rolling Stone Magazine, April 20th, 1989.
    
    The magazine gave is one and a half stars, which is between poor
    and fair.  !
    
    Without permission..
    
    
    Although their fans treat the three members of Rush as if they were
    the Holy Trinity, the band chose the theme of another threesome
    - the Three Stooges - as the opening fanfare for its third live
    set.  It's a bit of sel-effacement to be found nowhere else on this
    album.
    
    Most of the material on *A Show of Hands* is from *Power Windows*
    (1985) and *Hold Your Fire* (1987).  Many of the performances stick
    closely to the studio versions, even down to having 'til Tuesday's
    Aimee Mann repeat her backing-vocal stint for "Time Stand Still."
    The sensation of a studio recording is heightened by the remarkable
    sound quality of the recording (even the crowd recorded well).
                                                               
    Rush's prodigious chops are proven crowd pleasers, but this collection
    is a morass of muscle-bound technique, quasi-profound lyrics and
    bassist-keyboardist Geddy Lee's shrill screech.  Even the drum solo
    by the awe-inspiring Neil Peart ("The Rhythm Method"), complete
    with obligatory gong crash, is not nearly as good as what he throws
    into the regular songs.  In spite of (or perhaps because of) all
    the pyrotechnics, the music has the emotional emptiness of bad jazz
    fusion.  "Nothing can survive in a vacuum," as Lee squeals in "Turn
    the Page."
    
    The last four numbers begin to redeem th album, but it's too little
    too late for this seventy-five minute, double-LP endurance test.
    
    
    
    Well!

    
    	On the video for 'Show of Hands', as they do '2112', Alex Lifeson
    sings something, but they cut it out. I'm not joking...there is
    an actual warning on the screen, saying that the record company
    has deleted the vocals off the track, that the subject matter is
    touchy.
    
    	Anyone know what he says? 
    
    						Les
    

                
                I have  no clue, but RS sux!!  1.5 stars.  Right.
                Rush rules (along with Queensryche and Icon :`) )
                
                

    
    
    
    Its just a review..  you can't say that RS is a reputable magazine...
    
    Probably some reviewers are good, some aren't, same as reporters..
    
    It could be a bad album!!  It could not be though, so don't get
    mad!!!!!!
    
    F.

    scribed without permission.
    
    They,plus Kiss,Ted Nugent,Van Halen,Aerosmith,AC/DC and Blue Oyster
    Cult,were one of the big bands of the second generation of heavy
    metal.Rush was a perfect combination of hard metallic
    sounds,progressive rhythms and mystic lyrics.And they still make
    valid hard-rock music.Plus their styles have influenced the third
    and forth generations of metal disciples,such as Fates Warning,Stryper
    and most notably of late,Dream Theater.
    Granted,Geddy Lee ain't exactly young-looking,but he's got the young
    boy in his high-pitched singing voice.And alex Lifeson,with his
    yuppie hairstyle,still can shred.Neil Peart-the darkness that haunts
    his face also haunts his lyrics.
    Rush hasn't made it easy on themselves.They aren't trying to be
    the hippest metal band around.One reason is natural:age.And
    secondly,the group hasn't stuck to its metal roots. In 1973,when
    they first started,they were into Led Zeppelin.Since then they've
    explored different rhythms and sounds.Eight years ago they were
    inspired by the ethnic dabblings of new wave artists such as the
    Police and Talking Heads.Now Geddy is fascinated by the sound of
    pianos.Will that be on their next record?Who knows!
    Geddy says,There are so many influences.Its very difficult to label
    us by what sound we have now.It has something in common with Metallic's
    style,but even that is so far removed from us.I've always associated
    metal with a darker side,which we have had in our career.But if
    you have to label us,hard rock suits us better.Its not as limiting
    as metal,especially if you label it progressive hard rock.
    Rush exists the way it is.And for Geddy,the whole concept of trying
    to portray his personality is a very strange priority.Its very
    distracting.The best thing is to just be and do and let your action-
    your music-do the talking.
    Geddy Lee and the rest of Rush prefer the way taken by more serious
    artists throughout history.They let the work speak for itself.
    

    
    
    	Hi !
    
    
    	Give me RUSH or give me death!

    Re A few back.. (about the deleted vocals by Alex)
    
    I have the feeling that both of these occured...
    
    -For some reason, the mic was off and
    -for some other reason, they couldn't use another camera shot
    
    So they figured they'd cover it up with something interesting like
    that.  It would be interesting to find out what he said, because,
    unless I'm mistaken, Someone (geddy or alex) says something at that
    point in the song, but the lyrics tend to change every year.
    
    Steve O

    I just picked up Caress of Steel. I used to have Archives before, but
    lost it somewhere down the line. I've always gotten into the older
    Rush. Fly by night, 2112 etc. Good music. They've got a good trademark
    kinda sound with their music. Unique, I suppose. That's probably why I
    like them.
    
    jk

    
    	`Rush'  DEFINATELY  has  a  changing style.  Take `Signals' and
    `Grace Under Pressure'. . .two albums that were released relatively
    close  in  time, and there are quite a few differences in these two
    albums alone, let alone the rest !
    
    	Although  I  would  agree  with the statement that `Rush' isn't
    Heavy METAL. . .they're still a cut above the rest in my book !
    
    METALord"_RUSH_fan_till_death_!

    
    Being the RUSHFanatic that I am, I anxiously await word on when
    their next album is due.  I hope "A Show of Hands" didn't hold them
    up any.  Has anybody heard anything about Rush lately???
    
    jab
    
    

    
    
    fairly new to this file. Just one thing to say about RUSH. They're
    the best. (except of course, for Zeppelin). The sounds they produce
    are inredible! Neil IS the best drummer...ever. I have to admit,
    ever since, Signals, it's taken me a little longer to get use to
    they're changing style, but it's still Rush. Can anyone here tell
    me where I can findthe Rush album:  Rush - Rush through time.
    It's a greatest hit type album that came out about 1980. 
    I was so into Rush at one time that in the early 89's I redid my
    van into a Rush van. It was dark blue, all dressed up, inside and
    out. It had a large hand painted "Fly by Night" on each side. 
    
    
    jeff
    
    

Somebody talked about a band that sound like RUSH. I couldn't figure where it
was, and what was its name. They were mentioned as a good example of keyboard
in HM. 

Anybody recall ? 

Didier

    Triumph ?

    
    I think it is Dream Theater.  I swear, I am the biggest Rush fan
    alive and when I heard the song by D.T., I thought it was Geddy
    Lee singing.  There are even a ton of Peart "runs" in the song.
    
    It sounds like something that would have come off their 2112 or
    Farewell to Kings albums.
    
    jab

    I agree!  I think I remember saying that I thought Dream Theater
    sounded like some of the more recent Rush stuff.
    
    gh

                
                never heard  of  them,  but  i'm going to have to
                find that album  now.   another remind me of rush
                band  is called 'Triton'.    they're  from  rhode
                island.  the one song  i  head  was  kind of like
                moving pictures era rush.
                
                -rob-
                

    	Re: Something around 33
    
    "Rush Through Time" was an English import, so, like all English
    imports, you really have to hunt them down.
    
    As a Rush fan for a long time, I hurt to say this, but I hope that Rush
    disbands in the near future.  After "Hold Your Fire", I had had enough.
    Hold Your Fire had some good tunes, but it's getting worse.  They're
    almost all keyboards now, and they're getting too techno-rock for my
    blood.  They're still better than most bands out today, but they're new
    stuff isn't helping them.  They should "exit stage left" while they still
    have their dignity. :-)
    
    Steve

                besides, rush through  time's  sound  quality was
                EXTREMELY poor.
                
                - Rob who likes the new stuff but it doesn't hold
                a candle next to the earler stuff -
                
                

>    As a Rush fan for a long time, I hurt to say this, but I hope that Rush
>    disbands in the near future.  After "Hold Your Fire", I had had enough.

    I hope they won't and I suggest you stop buying their recent work if
    you have had enough. I think they are better than ever. Every new album is
    a real pleasure to discover and you believe me or not but I also love
    their first LPs a lot. Rush is a band that is evolving a lot,
    they won't stay and play always the same stuff and that's what most
    people like in them, I think.

    My favorite CDs are Moving Pictures and Hold Your Fire which are from 2
    different period and still very good.
    
>They should "exit stage left" while they still have their dignity. :-)

    Very good one :-), but I don't see why they are loosing their dignity.


    Didier 

    I bought the Show Of Hands video this weekend.
    
    Excellent.  As usual.  It's the next best thing to being there...
    The sound quality of the vid was the best I've heard on these store
    bought vids.
    
    jc

    
    re:  jc
    
    100% agreed.  The video shows that Rush is still one of the best
    live bands around.  It really looked like the boys are still having
    fun and will be around for a little while longer.
    
    jab

    Re: .42
    
    I didn't mean for you to take offense be my earlier statements.  As far
    as my purchasing of Rush material, I will always buy it, because it is
    always good.  
    
    The points I'm trying to make are that through Rush's evolution,
    especially their last studio album, they are losing the feeling and
    sound that the started with and are famous for.  The new stuff is still
    a cut above most other rock, but as far as Rush goes, and I think a lot
    of people will agree with me, the new stuff is a cut below their old
    stuff.
    
    However, I will still buy the next album.
    
    Steve

    RE: the last few
    
    I think it's important to distinguish between what is "good" and
    what an individual human likes or dislikes.  I'm not saying I'm
    real familiar with the latest Rush material, but assuming that
    they are "artists" you have to also assume that *they* must believe
    that they are "progressing" along some continuum.  I mean Rush will
    go in the direction that they see fit (and if they're true artists,
    they're not going to care what the public thinks).  From what I've
    heard of the recent Rush material, they ARE getting more keyboard
    oriented, they're less raw and more polished, but we can't judge
    whether they're better or worse -- we can only judge whether we
    like them better or worse.
    
    It's kind of like when Dylan first went from acoustic folk to electric
    music; a lot of people (the folk purists) said he had sold out and
    they turned their backs on him (when he was yet to write some of
    his most prolific material, IMO).  Or, it's like when The Beatles
    stopped writing pop-rock stuff (well when they "changed" y'know?)
    and did Revolver/Sgt. Pepper's/Magical Mystery Tour all within a
    one year, or less, period...people said whoa man, they've really
    gone off the deep end...I mean *that* was the stuff that had the
    most impact.
    
    I guess I'm just picking nits.
    
    joe.

    "Moving Pictures" one of the best heavy Rush is now on mid-priced CD !
    Sorin V.

    
    RUSH are working on a new album with Rupert Hine.  They will release
    a compilation album through Vertigo label during November -
    'Chronicles'.
    
    Flip

                
                Cheaters!!  I want NEW material.  Come on Hines!
                
                :')
                
                Everyone waiting  for  the new stuff won't need a
                compilation  album 'cause  they'll  have  it  all
                already!
                
                

    
    Okay, okay, calm down Rob!  Hines-ey baby has pulled through and
    their thirteenth studio album - PRESTO - is to be released on November
    20th (that's in the UK).
    
    Side One:	Show don't tell; Chain Lightning; The path; War paint;
    		Scars; Presto.
    
    Side Two:	Superconductor; Anagram; Red tide; hand over fist;
    		available light.
    
    Flip

    AAAhhhhh!!  Yeah!  
    
    Any news on its style of content?  Is it like new Rush or old Rush or
    are they venturing on to something new?

                
                Take a  gander.   Like old Rush?!?!?  What do you
                think the chances of THAT are???  
                
                - Rob who STILL loves new Rush and can't wait for
                PRESTO -
                
                

    
    Steve-
    
    Ummmmmm.....well....I don't know what it is going to sound like,
    I've never owned (or heard) a RUSH album in my life <head drops
    forward in shame!>.  When the review for the album comes through,
    I'll post it in here.
    
    Flip

    
    Tour dates are going to be announced shortly.
    
    FLip

                

                I guess  they  have  a  single  out  from  Presto
                already.  It was on the radio today, but I missed
                it. :(
                
                

    
    
    The new single is pretty cool...the name escapes me at the
    moment.  I heard it about 3 times last night.
    
    Rae

    
    
    How does Geddy sound??? Is he singing in old style?
    
    
    jeff 

    
    
    The style IMO seems to be a little different...It has that Rush
    touch to it but it takes a bit of listening to figure out it is
    them.  IMO as well Geddy sounds a tad different.  It is hard to
    explain in less your listening to it.
    
    Rae

    
    
    Ya, now I know whatcha mean. I was sitting here at my desk working.
    And this song was playing for a couple of minutes, then alll of
    a sudden I heard this sound that caught my attention, and whadaya
    know, it was the new RUSH ttune. Not bad but different. I wanna
    hear Geddy singing in that high voice of his which he went away
    from after Moving Pictures. 
    
    Jeff

    Just heard the new single from Rush on AAF...
    
    It's called "Show Don't Tell" off of "Presto"
    
    I liked it....but then I like everything Rush does ....;-)

I heard it too.... I thought it was disappointing...but I'm going to have to 
hear it again before I pass judgement on it...

The Itch

    
    	I think that "Show, Don't Tell" sounds pretty funky, especially
    the intro. Maybe Geddy's getting into the Red Hot Chili Peppers
    too!
    8^)
    
    /Motorbreath...kind of like the song

    Yeah, I just heard it this morning.  Very different for Rush.  I've
    never heard Alex play like that.  It's a cool change.  It was funky in
    the beginning, but then I though it lost the edge in the middle of the
    song.
    
    I've only heard it once, so I can't pass judgement yet.  When's the
    release date?
    
    Steve

    Have y'all seen the Show Of Hands Vid ?
    
    Fabulous...  those guys amaze me.
    
    jc

    JC...what is the Video like....I dont care to see/hear roadies
    I want to see/hear  rush....so every time I am at strawberries I
    pick up the vid,put it back down and still wonder what it is like.
    you know,do they show a lot of back stage interviews,or are they just
    doing on stage concerts?
    
    Barney
    

    Ever seen them in concert ?
    
    Same-same.  'Cept ya need a stereo tape deck for realism.  The vid
    is AWESOME.  No Roadie shots.. most of  the special effects are
    full-screen (know what I mean?) too.
    
    Ummm, it's just like the concert.  If you like Rush (I do!) then
    you'll love the vid.  One complaint ?  Not enough old stuff.
    
    jc

    heard 2 new songs off Presto last night. One was called "Scar".
    This one will take a few more listens. The other one that I can't
    remember the name of (figures) was real good, I kiled it a lot.
    One of the following stations (93.7, 100.3, 100.7, 101.1, 104.1)
    is plating the whole album This Sunday night at midnight. My radio
    was on one of these staions when I heard the commercial.
    
    
    jeff                    
    

    What's the verdict on the new album?
    
    If the album is anything like Show Me... then I take back what I said
    earlier about them breaking up.
    
    I didn't like the direction they were taking with Hold Your Fire, but
    the new one sounds killer!!
    
    Steve

    
    
    Just got finished listening to the new album.
    
    It's better than the last couple, but it STILL isn't like the old
    stuff. This from a person who was once "rush nuts". 
    
    jeff

                Just bought  the CD this evening.  Gonna go check
                it out in a few...
                

    re.71
    so how is it?
    Did anyone hear the ROCKLINE interview with Geddy Lee the other
    night on WAAF?
    Pretty interesting.
    
    They played a lot of Presto. I liked it a lot. 
    One song 'Chain Lightning' was really cool...
    
    /Motorbreath

                As usual,  it  takes a bit of getting used to.  I
                would say the  style  is closest to that of Grace
                Under Pressure.  Less  keyboards and more guitar,
                though there are STILL tons  of  keys.  I haven't
                listened  to it enough to decide  where  I  would
                place it in my list of favorites,  but  as usual,
                it's Rush and it's great.
                
                - Rob -
                
                Motorbreath, been working late alot lately, huh?
                
                

    re.last
    	Really?
    	On Rockline, Geddy said that the band wanted to get back
    [somewhat] to a three-men-are-playing sound.
    
    I guess Neil was cranking out lyrics for stuff faster than 
    Geddy and what's-his-name could write anything. 
    	There's a song on the album that was meant to be an 
    instrumental, but Neil wrote lyrics for it anyway, and they
    were great, so the band said to hell with the instrumental.
    
    /Motorbreath

    The first listen-through of Presto bored me.  Even Hold Your Fire held
    my interest better than Presto.
    
    Don't get me wrong, I love Rush, and I have all of their stuff, but I
    just don't like where they are going.  I have to listen some more
    before I can give a full honest review.  I do like Show Don't Tell,
    though.  Give me another week or so...
    
    Steve

    
>< Note 46.74 by BINKLY::MINARDI "schism... ska-ska-ska-schism" >
>                                -< Rush stuff >-
>
>    Geddy and what's-his-name could write anything. 
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
                              
    Blastpheny !  WHATS-HIS-NAME !!
    
    I'm feeling faint !
    
    You must mean ALEX LIFESON eh MotoBreath ??
    
    ;^)

    lifeson?  sure... i knew peart was just a front!!!
    

    re. .76
    
    What's so speshul about Alex Lifeson?!?
    
    Buck, who wishes someone would steal his chorus pedal!

    GK Chorus ?
         
    Agreed.  It's a little rough lately, but if you ask me Alex has
    some cool licks that are very original sounding and all around nifty.
    
    jc

    Alex is 1/3 of the talent that makes up RUSH.
    
    IMHO

    It took awhile, but the new Rush album gets my approval hands down!
    If any of you are bored, look at the lyrics to "The Pass".  They are
    some pretty intense stuff.  Neil, lighten up would ya?
    
    jab (Who is back home for the holidays, ho ho ho)

    any commitments to a tour yet by rush????  anyone?  anyone?
    bueller?
    
    sean

    On the Rockline special, Geddy said they were going to start touring in
    February/March.  The only thing he said about the tour was that Rush
    was going to be in Texas in mid-March.
    
    HTH
    
    jab

    Look for them either in February or in July/August.

    Here are the dates so far for the tour.  I don't know how accurate this
    is, and I take no responsibility they are wrong.
    
Orignal				Update		Comments
==========================	=========	========
February
17th	Greenville, SC				(803) 242-6393 GenAd
19th	Jacksonville, FL
20th	St. Petersburg, FL	---> 19th (unconfirmed)
22nd	Miami, FL
23rd	Orlando, FL
25th	New Orleans, LA
26th	Houston, TX
29th	San Antonio, TX		---> 28th
 
March
1st	Dallas, TX
2nd	Kansas City, KS		---> 3rd
5th	St. Louis, MO
6th	Cincinatti, OH
8th	Detroit, MI
9th	Detroit, MI
20th	Edmonton, ALB
21st	Calgary
23rd	Vancouver, BC
25th	Seattle, OR
26th	Portland, OR
28th	Sacramento, CA
30th	Oakland, CA
31st	Oakland, CA
 
April
2nd	Los Angeles, CA
3rd	Los Angeles, CA
5th	San Diego, CA
6th	Costa Mesa, AZ
8th	Phoenix, AZ
9th	Tucson, AZ
 
    

    No New England dates..... AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
    
                                         Say it ain't so
    
                                    The Bummin' New World Man

    Don't worry, they'll be there, but they just haven't announced that leg
    of the tour!
    
    Do you really think they'd skip the entire North East United States.  I
    don't think so either.
    
    Steve
    

    For you RUSH fans down south in Greenville, RUSH will be practicing the
    whole up-coming week at the GMA. Starting Monday afternoon thru Sat!

    	Myself will try to get up during one of the morning practice
    sessions.

    Later,

    B.A.

    
    	awwwwwww, shaddup!!!
    
    :) sean

    How would one get into one of these practice sessions ?   8^D
    
    
    				Scary

                Scary, you  wait  for  Alex to leave the band and
                Rush to audition a new guitarist, then...
                
                :')
                

    I've been listening to "Presto" non-stop for a couple of days now
    (thanx Coop) and believe me, I'd go to one of their practice sessions
    just to watch, nothing else.	8^)
    
    
    				Scary
         (who thinks Rush sequences their bowel movements too ...)

                That was too funny!
                
                

    I guess that would give a whole new meaning to "MIDI Through" huh?
    
    
    				Scary
    

Just read an interesting paper on Rush.

They are explaning how the Rush life is made of chapter, each chapter being
terminated by a live album. Each chapter that starts brings some new sounds, new
ideas new style.

Chapter 1 : 1968-1976 : with Rush, Fly by night, Caress of steel, 2112
	  and "All the world's stage", that's the beginning.

Chapter 2 : 1977-1981 : with a farewell to kings, Hemispheres, Permanent waves
	  Moving Pictures and Exit stage left
	  This chapter sees the serious introduction of keyboards, the end of 
	  the medieval-fiction-oriented lyrics.

Chapter 3 : 1982-1989 : with Signals, Grace under Pressure, Power Windows,
	  Hold your fire and show of hands
	  This the technologic chapter, also new influences (afro music)
	  very realistic lyrics about life and human beings

Chapter 4 : 1989-? : with Presto...
	  New influences (Jazz on show don't tell), (Funk on Scars), very
	  pessimistic lyrics.
	  A new era has just started...

They also mention that a 2nd compilation album named "Chronicles" will be 
released in August this year.

Didier

	  

    Cycles? Maybe they'll cycle themselves to being good again. Do you
    think?

>    Cycles? Maybe they'll cycle themselves to being good again. Do you
>    think?


They are just doing perfect to me so far.

Didier 

    
    The Centrum is giving out wristbands for a RUSH show.  Although there
    has been no 'official' announcement yet, so we don't know the date and
    when they go on sale....
    
    Steve
    

    OK, it's official now....
    
    MAY 10th (thursday).
    
    Tickets on sale this Saturday at 10:00am....
    
    Steve
    

    
    	PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE tell me that is a TYPO.. PLEEEEEAAAASE!!!!!!!!!!!
    I have tickets to the Flying Karamzov Bros THAT NIGHT.
    
    	NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (insert any sequence of swear words)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    BTW, ticketmaster is dealing the tickets for the RUSH concert at
    the Centrum.
    
    a_very_very_very_very_very_very_very_very_depressed_sean 8^(

    
    Nope, no typo!  May 10th it is.  BUT...
    
    
    
    Rush, on this tour, has been adding more shows as the others sell out,
    so I think we can expect at least 2 Centrum shows....
    
    Steve
    

    Would anyone happen to know when Rush are likely to tour Europe
    - more specifically Munich?
    
    Thanks Chris

    I have two tickets for the Friday night show at the centrum that I 
    am willing to trade for a pair of Phil Collins Tickets at Great Woods,
    or any other place that is close by.  I got my tickets 10 minutes after
    they went on sale, on the telephone.  They are going to be lower
    balcony seats.  GREAT SEATS!!!!!
    
    DTN    248-4172 
    HOME   603-883-7871  NASHUA N.H.
    MAIL   CECV03::LEBEL

    	I'm not sure if anyone else heard this but RUSH was supposed
    to be doing their Rochester, NY show on Thursday, April 19th but
    Geddy Lee came down sick and the show was postponed until Sat. April
    28th.  
    
    	This must almost mean for sure that the rest of the dates on
    the tour (including the 2 Worcester shows May 10th-11th) are going
    to be pushed back.
    
    	Does anyone know anything else about this?  Thanks.
    
    sean

    	My friend finally got to see RUSH after the postponement.
    Apparently, during Geddy's illness they pushed those shows he missed
    back into free dates, making more back to back shows for the group.
    
    	The show IHO (in his opinion) was very good (not as good as
    the Moving Pictures tour, but then again, nothing could top that
    8^)  They have a movie screen so I don't think there is going to
    be an open stage at the Centrum.  They also do a pink floyd inspired
    stage show with inflatable bunnies (he didn't go into detail on
    this).
    
    	They played only 4 songs off their new album, but still the
    emphasis was on the "new" Rush (post Moving Pictures era).  All
    in all it is definitely worth seeing, he said.
                                                  
    sean

    RUSH TICKET FOR SALE!!
    
    I have an extra ticket for the (sold out?) May 10th show at the
    Centrum.  Alright seat, sec. 124, row A.
    
    Just want face value, $20.00
    
    Send mail CADSYS::PIKET
    
    

      Not a bad concert but not on my top 10. The two songs I really like
    the most "Limelight and Big Money"  they DIDN'T play....
    
    Mr. Big opened up, they were pretty good.  I think we'll be haring
    more from them.  
    
    Hey Boomer... I didn't see ya working the stage.  What did you do?
    stay home???
    
    I was in 122 low E, great seats to the awesome light show....
    
    Bri

                This was a great show!  Not as many lasers as the
                last  couple  of  tours,  but  at  least  it  was
                something new.  I  was sick of the old show.  The
                giant  rabbits  have  to  go  though,  especially
                dancing  to  Tom  Sawyer.   The  one  thing  that
                totally  caught  me off guard was Xanadu.    They
                haven't  played  that  since  the Moving Pictures
                tour.   They  also  played  La  Villa all the way
                through.  All  the  usuals, Red Barchetta, In the
                Mood, Subdivisions, Manhattan Project,  Spirit of
                Radio, Freewill, Superconductor and probably 6 or
                7 more.  I missed Mr.    Big,  but  who  cares, I
                don't  know anything they do anyway.   I  was  in
                section 3 , 6th row about 7 seats  in from center
                stage.  What awful seats :')...
                
                
                See ya all tomorrow!!!
                
                Oh,  other  minuses,  rain.    I  looked  like  a
                drenched mop.    It  was  *POURING*  when  I  got
                there...
                
                

                Oh, something  else  that was bothering me.  Some
                girl in front  of  me  had a MA license plate she
                was holding up saying  RSH.YYZ,  obviuos, someone
                else off on the right  balcony  had  one  she was
                holding up that said L??XTS.   I  forget the rest
                of it, but for the life of me, I can;t figure out
                what it was supposed to mean.  Such a small thing
                to worry about, I know... :')
                
                

    
	RE: Rob
	>totally  caught  me off guard was Xanadu.    
    
    	Wow!  You mean they covered Olivia Newton-John's song?!
    	(; (; (; (;  I'm impressed. (8
	
    	>Oh,  other  minuses,  rain.    I  looked  like  a
         >drenched mop.    It  was  *POURING*  when  I  got
          >there...
           
    	Okay everyone.  All together now.  Ready?
    
    
    	Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!  Poooor baby. (; (; (;
    
    	Tigga~~~     
                

    
    re: a drenched mop
       
    
    So you looked good for a change! ;)
    
    Flip

    re. 109
    
    Big B- I am working the Friday show... I WILL be there early to catch
    the whole show!!!!
    
    Boomer
    

    Hey Wayne!!
    
     Ticketwench and I will be there 3rd row on the floor come say HI!
    
    Rae

    
	RE: /prc
    	>That was REALLY bad, you should be ashamed. 8-)
    
    	I sowwy.  Me no do dat no moah. (8
    
    
	RE: Flip
    	>So you looked good for a change! ;)
    
    	snickersnicker.  teehee. (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

                Re: .116
                
                Hey!   How'd you get 3rd row!!?!?  Candy said she
                only  got  two    tickets   and  was  taking  her
                sister!?!?  (Unless you are her sister :') ).
                
                I couldn't find you  two  and  I  was  in 8th row
                section 1 Friday night (for  about half the show,
                then I got kicked out :')  and  went  and  sat up
                with Jack in 201).
                
                Saw  another  cool  plate  on the way  home  last
                night, MA plate BYTOR.  I will probably  get  rid
                of  my  +MOSH+  plate somewhere down the road and
                replace it with  something  Rush  or  Queensryche
                oriented...
                
                

    Get "QRYCHE"!  That would be awesome!
    
    Or "R4ORDR"
    
    J-Dot

                Some chick in Manchester already has QRYCHE on an
                MR2...
                

    therez prob'ly 'bout 50 of them

    Rush is one of my favourite bands, maybe the best. Peart is
    magnificient drummer, Geddy Lee is magic-fingered bass-player and
    Lifeson is great guitarist. Peart's words are very high-level and
    their music is wonderful. But their best "season" was the time of
    "MOVING PICTURES".
    
    Hannu H.

    RUSH IS THE BEST BAND OF ALL TIME.....ALL THEIR WORKS. EVEN IF THEY DO 
    EVOLVE AND CHANGE....THEY ARE STILL THE BEST. IT'S LIKE LISTENENING TO
    A BAND THAT HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT STYLES AND DOES THEM ALL
    MAGNIFICENTLEY.
    
    JUST MY $0.02
    MARK
    

    Any more comments on Rush???????????????????????????????????????????

     I saw Rush not to long ago in concert. As a matter of fact it is the
    third time I have seen them and everytime they gave a good strong
    preformance. Some show you go to either the music sounds shit!y or you
    can't understand the lyrics. Every Rush show I've seen both the music
    and the lyrics where clear and sounded great. Neal Pert can kick ass on
    the drums.:>)
    						The KER
    

    I saw RUSH on the 2112 tour...AWESOME!
    
    I saw RUSH on their Hemispheres tour...STILL AWESOME...
    
    I saw RUSH on their Moving Pictures tour...NOT AS GOOD...
    
    I saw RUSh on a "nameless" tour after that (Grace Under
    Pressure?)...S**kED!!!
    
    Nuff said

    re: Mark
    
          I just saw Rush with Mr. Big in Denver and both bands kicked some
    
        serious a$$. Rush is one of my all time favorites, and I have 
    
        practiced every night since seeing Neil Pert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
        The whole band is an inspiration.               Skip
        

    
    You went without me?  Gee, thanks Skip!  I'm gonna go home and
    cry now... ;)
    
    Rush is most excellent band, dudes.  Only problem is that their
    lyrics are too intelligent for most people.  
    
    Look up "progressive" in the dictionary, you'll find picture of 
    Geddy, Alex, and Neal next to it.
    
    "Superconductor" sums up a lot of what's going on in the rest of the
    music business, I think.
    
    J-Dot                   

    One more comment....
    
    Although I am a BIG fan of RUSH... I get a little worried by "HERO
    WORSHIP", this is directed at any band and not just RUSH of course.
    
    MHO, is that's it's music... it's meant to be thought provoking,
    it's meant to entertain... it's meant to lift you up and slam you
    against the wall...  $ SET MODE: FLAME ON
    IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A FACILITY FOR WORSHIP OR ANY OTHER DEGRADATION!
                                                
    			 $ SET MODE: FLAME OFF
    
    Bonzo (glad to get that off of my chest after the recent bull****
    concerning JP)
    

    I'm sorry I missed that show in Denver, I wanted to go this time but
    thought it wasn't for another couple of months or so.  Guess I need to
    keep up on the concert calendar a little closer.
    
    I get a little tired of hearing how "intelligent" Rush's lyrics are. 
    Don't get me wrong, I really like the band and they obviously go out of
    their way to write lyrics that are above the general rock standard. 
    But I get the feeling that some of the lyrics are trying to push that 
    "I write overtly intelligent lyrics" thing and it comes off as kind of
    presumptuous.  They just don't seem natural.
    
    There are plenty of bands around these days that write wonderful,
    intelligent lyrics.  I don't see why so many people want to single out
    Rush as if they're the only ones.
    
    JMHO...naturally.
    
    gh
                                     

    RE: .128 & .130
    
     I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT THINK **RUSH** WRITES TOO INTELLIGENT LYRICS
    DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THEM. THEY ARE MAD BECAUSE THEY'RE LOST. THEY
    AREN'T TOOOOO INTELLIGENT, THEY ARE JUST REALISTS, THEY WRITE ABOUT
    REAL SH*T. DOWN TO EARTH SH*T. THE STUFF THAT MATTERS. NOT JUST
    OOOOH BABY, OOOOH BABY OOOH, BABY BABY BABY. KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
    LIST AND LEARN..............
    LATER,
    Mark W.

    > THE STUFF THAT MATTERS. NOT JUST OOOOH BABY, OOOOH BABY OOOH, BABY BABY
    > BABY. KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
    
    Let's suppose for a moment that what you described here as a bad
    example is "what matters" to me?
    
    gh

    ooops
    
    I gonna say that I didn't understand your reply Greg, but now that
    I'm reading on the scratch pad I understand!
    
    
    silly me

    Sorry about the caps dudes. Just lazy on my part. Won't let it happen
    again. Anyways.....................
    I don't understand the reply in .133 either. Did I miss something...
    and what the h*ll is scratch pad. Sorry I'm just a novice with notes.
    Later
    Mark W.
    

    
    	RE: .135
    
    	I think Greg's trying to say that what matters in lyrics to
    	one person might not matter to someone else.
    
    	Maybe he LIKES the "ooh baby oooh baby yes baby" stuff.
    
    	Yes? no?
    
    	tigga~~~~

    
    I do!  But not in a song!  8^)
    
    Sorry...I'll go and lock myself back in my cage.....
    
    FLip

    
    
      Yea, if we didn't have ooo baby ahhhs baby baby there wouldn't
    be any decent Zed Zeppelin songs!!!
    
                                     No Flame, I love LZ
    
                                                            mike
    

    Correct about LZ. But that is what makes their sound, their sound.
    I guess just as it was said before. What sounds good to one may not
    sound good to another. Anyways...........
    
    I just had to get the ball rolling in the RUSH notes. Sorry if I
    stepped on anyones fingers.
    At least now we know someone is reading RUSH notes.
    .
    Later
    Mark W. (novice at large)
    

    A scratch pad is the Buffer you can see above, when you are typing
    in a reply to a note.  There are two buffers, one called NOTES$SCRATCH,
    and one called NOTES$EDIT (the one where you are typing).
    
    
    Hope this helps
    
    Bonzo

    
    	Has anyone picked up their remastered live CD?  26 songs in all.
    
    	- Jim

I saw the double cassette, but no need to buy it since I already have
them on CD.  Remastered you say?  Hmmmm.... interesting...

    	Yes, that's what caught my attention.

    
    Well?   What's the name?!  
    
    SoHong

    	
    	WAAF is giving 1 copy of Chronicals a minute for an hour sometime
    	today.  I didn't catch the details.  The lowest I've seen it so
    	far is $25.00.
    
    	- Jim

    
    
    I saw it for $21.95 at Hot Rock Records in Salem, N.H.

	
 Anyone know if RUSH are doing a British tour at all, I love all eras of their 
music, and would love to hear and see them live, but was too late to hear about
them to catch any of the previous tours..

		 WWP
		~~~~~

    It seems as if Presto didn't sell to well, and so they 'ain't gonna
    tour, what a downer....
    
    			A.,

                Well, they toured over here for Presto...

    
    Yup.  They came here(well, Denver).  SHOCK!  SHOCK!
    
    SESOB

     Talk about shockers, they even came to Greenville, S.C., and hardly
    anybody comes here. 
    					The KER
    

    Yeah folks, but, before 'hold your ..', they last toured on the moving
    pictures album...
    
    			A.

                Huh?  I've seen them for Signals, Grace Under
                Pressure, Power Windows, Hold Your Fire and
                this last tour!  I even have shirts around
                from them!  Rush hasn't toured since Moving
                Pictures?!?!?  Maybe not Madagascar perhaps...

                - Rob -

    I think they're talking about the UK...;

                I guess so, but .149 said they weren't going to
                tour because the album didn't sell.  They DID 
                tour, just not the UK I guess... 

                Cheers, Rob

    
    The video release of "A Show of Hands" was recorded live in the U.K.,
    Birmingham, I think.  That was the tour before Presto, wasn't it?
    
    Rob

    Yoo Bet, I was there (pity I'm not on the vid though!!!)
    
    			Andy.

    "SHOW OF HANDS" was the Hold Your Fire tour!... but the CD was recorded
    from the State Side shows... at least I *think* that is what it
    said ono the cover of the CD!
    
    Bonzo

    It's from various places (Quite a lot from Birmingham though).
    
    		Andy.

    I'm new to the notes file and was compelled to put my two cents worth
    in about my all time favorite band. I must admit I like their old stuff
    a little more than the new, but not much more!! I think they must be
    the 'tightest' band I've ever heard, and put out some awesome sound 
    for a three piece. I do wish Alex would rip off some the older type
    leads like he used to,but times change and I can live with that.
    Geddy is still amazing, and how do you describe 'The professor' 
    in any other words than WOW!! 
          Well, gotta go , there playing Queensryche on the air, another
    fave--but that's another story....
                                        ASTA,
                                             LED
    

    I recently pyrchased the "Chronicals" compilation and although quite
    impressed with it (28 songs for �18�85), was wondering who chose
    the songs!
    
    Certainly a lot of my fav tracks are on this CD, but was disappointed
    by 3 or 4 tracks.... 
    
    Can anyone tell me if the songs were chosen by the band or record
    co.
    
    Bonzo
    

RE : Bonzo

Could you give that list, please

Is it a double CD ?

Didier

    It certainly is Didier my old friend!
    
    I will get something organised tomorrow and either put it here or
    send it via Email!
    
    Cheers dude
    
    Bonzo

>    Can anyone tell me if the songs were chosen by the band or record
>    co.
I think their old record company (Mercury) chose the songs. Rush was
against the Chronicles project from the beginning, so they really didn't
participate in the production of it too much. I'm not sure how "Show
Don't Tell" got onto _Chronicles_, since that was released on _Presto_
when Rush went with a different record company (Atlantic).

     Any new news or word of a release in the near future? 
    
    MARK W. (awaiting anything with baited breath....literally) 

    I just heard an instrumental from the new "Roll the Bones" release. 
    Sound pretty good too.  

    
    an instrumental?!?  cool!!!  about time.  i can't wait for this album. 
    i got pissed when i found out a radio station was playing new rush and
    i missed hearing it before it got pulled because they werent supposed
    to be playing it.  (wendy-o-syntax)
    
    

    Rush died with Moving Pictures. 

    I just heard it again.  The instrumental is called "Where's my Thing".

    
    There is the new song on the radidio now....
    
    
    It Rocks!
    
    Time is a gypsy caravan......
    
    Title forthcoming!

    I've just heard it too.  It's called "Dreamline".  Good tune!

       When does it hit the stores???  I'm in line for this one.  They
    sound great on this one!!!!
    
    boz

    the biggest thing to get on my nerves about Rush is Geddy Lee's voice
    apart from that they are a bunch of damn fine musicians with clever
    lyrics..................................................unlike Warrant!
    
    
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    
    re: .173
    
    sept 3rd
    
    
    

    � sept 3rd
    
    Any ideas about a UK date for release...
    (there's been no mention of the new album/single over here as far as I
    know).
    
    What's the singles like, any better than the [dissapointing] Presto
    material?
    
    			Andy.

    It got a very good write up in "Rock Power" magazine. 9.9 out of 10.
    
    Also,they said it`s a lot better than the Paul Daniels Magic album
    they released.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

On Friday Aug 29 there will be an album release special featuring Ged,
Alex and Neil.  It will be on CHEZ 106 here in Ottawa from 11 to midnight.
I take it is broadcast over a network of radio stations across North
America, in case anybody is wondering.

Mike.

        This band is KILLER!{Typical drummer response}.......
    
                  Even though,I've heard a few tracks off the album and
      it didn't really do as much for me and their older stuff.
    
                            Frizkid
    
    
           

    
    
    I heard a tune a couple nights ago.. It surprised the hell out of me
    cause I hadn't heard of a new release. It was a real good tune. Alex
    and Perat really sounded great....some old sound mixed in. Geddy's 
    voice was going from high to low... I wish I knew what the name of the 
    song was...Can't wait for the release!!
    
    
    jeff

    Just got the CD today....GREEEEAAAAAT stuff...as always.
    
    RUSH -- Roll the Bones
    
    Dreamline (4:38)
    Bravado (4:36)
    Roll the Bones (5:30)
    Face Up (3:54)
    Where's My Thing?
    (Part IV, "Gangster of Boats" Trilogy) (3:49)
    The Big Wheel (5:13)
    Heresy (5:26)
    Ghost of a Chance (5:19)
    Neurotica (4:40)
    You Bet Your Life (5:00)
    
    Try it you'll like it ......
    
    MW

    I cant quite remember but I'm sure I read they intend to play the UK in
    the spring. I've never seen them, so here's hopeing!!
    Mark.

    I have been listening to Rush since 1975. I have seen the following
    tours:
    
    Hemispheres
    Farewell to Kings
    Permenant Waves
    Moving Pictures
    Grace Under Pressure
    Signals
    Power Windows
    Presto
    
    I have seen a major development in their ability to get a much fuller
    sound using sequencers,etc. But, I still really like the older RUSH
    stuff better. I think the concept albums with trilogy like songs were
    great. They didnt have all the Keyboard stuff like today, but they
    experimented around alot with guitar and Bass sounds. My favorite
    Rush albums are: (I like them all, but these are my favorites)
    
    Caress of Steel
    RUSH
    Hemispheres
    Farewell to kings
    
    I have a couple of bootlegs from the 74 timeframe. They were playing in
    a studio for about 10 people(Electric Ladyland Studios). The sound is
    very garagey sounding,but Rush is Rush
    
    Rush fan for Life/ ...Bob 
                                          

    
    You saw all those tours?!?!?
    
    My hero!!!
    
    I only saw Signals on (had tickets for Moving Pictures but couldn't get
    there :'()
    
    

    I got into Rush around '75-'76 when they put out that first live album. 
    That one just blew me away.  I'd heard 2112 before that and didn't like
    it because of Geddy's voice, too high and screechy.  I learned to like
    it later though and 2112 is one of my favorites now.
    
    I got into the older stuff a lot more then anything newer and I can't
    stand the last two or three albums they've done.  I still like the
    first few albums the best.
    
    My fav Rush albums are:
    
    Rush  (much different sound then the rest of their material)
    Fly By Night  
    Caress of Steel
    2112
    Live
    Moving Pictures
    
    gh
                              

    
    Rush?!?  With John Rutset on drums?!?!? You're right, it is a different
    sound.  YUK!  :')
    
    (oops that should say Rutsey)
    
    My favs are (in no particular order)
    
    A Farewell to Kings
    Permanent Waves
    Hemispheres
     at the top with
    Moving Pictures
    2112 and
    Exit Stage Left not far behind
    
    the rest of them are merely only incredible 
    

    re a few back....
    
    
    I've been listening to em about 14-15 years now...I always loved Geddys
    voice... Thats the main reason I don't like the newer mat'l as much. He
    sings in a whole different style. IMO, Neil Peart is absolutly the best
    percusionist ever. I only saw a couple tours. Moving Pictures 2 times,
    and Signals 2 times. My favorites in order.....
    
    Moving Pictures
    2112
    RUSH
    Fly by Night
    Hemispheres
    Permenent Waves
    Farwell to Kings
    Caress of Steel
    
    
    jeff
    
    
    
    

    I *used* to be a HUGE Rush fan...this was back when 90% of the general
    populus didn't know what a Rush was (other than Amyl Nitrate).  ;^) 
    I prefer the older songwriting, and Geddy's old vocal style.  My
    lp favorites are (in order):

    2112
    Farwell to Kings
    Permenent Waves
    Hemispheres
    Moving Pictures
    Caress of Steel
    Fly by Night
    
    
    TOURS I've seen:
    
    2112
    Hemispheres
    Permanent Waves
    Moving Pictures

    
    Re: .184 >>you saw all of those tour?
    
    I forgot one....Hold your fire. A few of the tours I saw a couple of
    times. When I lived in NJ there were several arenas that they would
    play so it made it very easy to see them. Also, they were not as well
    known back in the 70's and early 80's so it was easier to get tickets.
    I had front row center at the Woostah Centrum for the Presto tour. That
    was pretty interesting being up that close, but you tend to the lose
    the theatrical view when your up front. But, I had to see them once
    from the front row. I paid about 150.00 for the tickets. (2)
    
    Re: .186  >>Rush with John Rutsey on the Drums.....YUK.
    
    I can definitly agree that the Rutsey's drumming was in the infantile
    stage compared to what Peart brought to the band, but I loved the
    raw crunchy sound of the band in general.(particulary the guitar)
    After the first album they seemed to refine the sound alot. 
    
    
    /bob
    

    
    I met RUSH once, not that great of an expierience considering they were
    drunk...
    
    Chris, who didn't care anyway, cause I was only 13

    >>I met RUSH once, not that great of an expierience considering they were
    >>drunk...
    
    
    Geez, I guess we'd never better meet cuz, I'm usually drunk and I'd
    hate to ruin your day.

    
    Hey, I was 13 then, some things have changed since then. Half my
    friends are drunk all the time too  8)
    
    Chris, who doesn't drink cause ima under age 8)
    
    

I love old Rush myself.  I've seen them live about 5 times I guess...
I've got most of their CD's...My favorites are:

Hemispheres
Caress Of Steel
2112
Farewell To Kingse3
Moving Pictures
Fly By Night

I also like Rush, especially the older stuff.
Moving Pictures is one of my favorite albums.
I've seen the new album and heard a bit of it (not enough to have an initial
impression).

Sorin

RUSH is my favorite band ever. I have all the CDs but unfortunately. I saw them
only once for, that was for the Moving Picture tour when I was living in 
Houston. They came to France for Hold Your Fire but played only Paris (1000km
from where I'm :-(.

I don't think I'll see them again, so I need to find the videos (difficult to 
find at the right video standard. I still haven't had a chance to hear the 
latest one yet.

I really like Moving Pictures, Permanent waves, then Hold your fire, Signals, 
2112, Hemishere, Power Windows, Grace Under Pressure. I also think A Show of 
hand is a good resume of what RUSH can do. I play that one quite often and 
advice it to novice people.

Didier

    re: .187
    
    i used to think that about peart also :').  not anymore.  peart is
    definately my FAV drummer and probably one of the best in rock, but
    there are many BETTER ones out there when you start looking at
    jazz/fusion.  dave weckl is also my fav but in a different way.
    
    

    re: .196
    
    I agree!  Neil Peart is an absolutely amazing drummer, but there are
    many I consider to be his equal in skill.  
    
    I've never been as totally blown away by a drummer as I was when I saw
    Terry Bozzio touring with Jeff Beck a couple of years ago.  Wow!
    
    gh

    Terry Bozio is totally amazing!!  I like him mucho better than Peart.

    
    TerryB is another of my favorites, as is Stewart C, Steve S and Deen C
    
    (I'll let you guys decipher that :'))
    
    

     Robert Sweet is one of my favs..
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    i just like his drum sound... other than that, he's okay.
    
    

    
    Lars Ulrich, Nicko Mcbrain.
    
    
    
    Chris, who doesn't really know what you guys are talkin' about

    Rush Tix for the Worcester Centrum on sale NOV. 2
    
    See ya in line

     
    	For anyone who cares, there is a Rush mailing list which comes
    	out everyday.  It caters to TRUE Rush fans and is full of Rush
    	fans of all types fighting and drooling over Rush.  Be forewarned
    	if you are only a part time Rush fan, don't bother.
    
    	All you've got to do is send mail to 
    
    		[email protected]
    
    	And ask to be put on the mailing list....
    
    
    					A True RUSHIAN

    
    
    and you'd better have a lot of time for reading :').  they are long and
    come every day (and are filled with a fair amount of crap, but DO
    usually have some good info).
    
    

    
    >and you'd better have a lot of time for reading :').  they are long and
    >come every day (and are filled with a fair amount of crap, but DO
    >usually have some good info).
    
    	This is true......

    Anymore RAVE reviews on the new stuff? I like it!
    
    Best in the last five or so!
    
    MARK W.

    Saw the cover band Moving Pictures saturday night. INCREDIBLE!!!!!
    They played 3 of the newer songs the rest was all from Moving Pictures
    and before. They did the whole side 2 of 2112 for their Onchor..If you
    closed you eyes you waould swear it was the real thing. I'm gonna catch
    them the next time they're in the area and anyone who likes RUSH should
    do the same. 
    
    Jeff
    

    
    
    that good eh?  i came THIS '' close to going.  i figured though that
    i'd be disappointed and chose something else to do.  if you hear of
    them playing around again, let me know (also, anybody heard the
    coverband Subdivisions?)
    
    

    Opening for Rush at the Centrum is Vinnie Moore...
    

    
    	RE: .213
    
    	Yea, I caught Subdivisions once and I liked 'em.
    
    	- Jim

Rob will love this !!

    
    Vinnie Moore?!?!?  Gnads!!!  I had heard Eric Johnson...  Rush 'n'
    Moore?!?!?
    
    YES!!
    
    :')
    
    

    
    I heard that too. Psyche!

       Well to be honest, last night's concert at the Centrum wasn't
    as great as other shows.  I really thought it had room for improvement.
    Neil sounded great!  Geddy looked like Darlene on the TV show Roseane.
    The laser show was the usual display and the two rabbits popped up
    for Tom Sawyer.  Three people were carried out after passing out. 
    
    
    BJ

    
    
    No way!  The show was the GNADS!!!  The only qualm I had was Vinnie's
    sound (well, that and that Rush needs some new props).  Really cool
    film during Roll the Bones though!  That skeleton was great.  Once
    again, Xanadu this year.
    
    

    
    
    	RE: Rob
    
    	My beau said he saw you at the show...
    
    	He also said it was a pretty decent show, he loved the
    	skeletons and Neil Peart sounded fantastic.
    
    	tigg~~~

    But Rob?  Could Rush possible ever be bad in your eyes?
    
    gh

    I thought the show was great. I do agree that they do need new props.
    I liked the stage setup. It was cool how it opened up. Neil's solo was
    good as usual. He had some new tricks and still played alot of his
    older chops. The only complaint I would have about the show is that I
    could barely hear Alex.  As far as Vinnie Moore, I clapped when he was
    leaving the Stage....He bored me....Im not really into listening to
    people practicing scales in a song. Also, the drummers double bass work
    seemed really repetetive...Mr Big did much better last tour with them.
    
    Cant wait until next tour!!
    
    /Bob

    
    hey greg, i could say rush was bad if they were, but will they a
    ever be?  i doubt it!  :')
    
    i just wish vinnie played more old stuff.  opened with something off of
    minds eye and then played 4 songs off the new album.  yuk.  his drummer
    was good but youre right, rather repetive.
    
     

    
    
    dont know how long it'shappening for, but the museum of science is
    doing a laser show to rush music.  (it was on this past wed i think, im
    going to call for more info tomorrow).
    

    
    I've changed my mind, I like Rush, in fact I've been listening solidly
    to 'A show of hands' for the past week.  My favourite tracks from it
    are subdivisions, witch hunt and marathon.  I'm off to by 2112 today.
    
    flip

    Aye,2112 has been a favourite of mine since i got it when i wuz 11
    years old.
    
    I`ve got Hemispheres and Farewell to Kings n`all if you want to borrow
    them.

    
    Deal.
    
    Thanks Stu.

Flip, you should check also the one with "mirrors" in the title. It's one of 
the very best ("Witch hunt" comes from it) and my favorite from Rush.

Sorin

Oops, it has nothing to do with mirrors but the name is "Moving Pictures".
I don't know why I was thinking to mirrors.

Sorin
PS. Has anyone an opinion on Pantera's last ?

Wrong!  Moving Pictures has witchhunt.  Mirrors is a track on Presto.  Moving
Pictures also has Red Barchetta and Limelight 2 of my favs.

Flip, I think you will find that Rush has stages, so if you like 2112, you want
to listen to Farewell to Kings, the 1st live album All the World's A Stage, or
the third album Fly By Night.

I started listening to Rush when 2112 came out.  I saw the Farewell to Kings,
Hemispheres and Permanent Waves tours.  They've mellowed a lot and as
a result gotten much more airplay.

I have every album up to Power Windows.  I have the rest (except the latest)
on CD.

Feel free to stop by my office and borrow some.  (Ha! that would be a long 
walk/swim!!!)

Tim

    
    Oh jeez, just earmark the ones which are worth buying otherwise this is
    going to get expensive.
    
    

Where abouts?

I need a good .GIF background...

    
    rpoblem here flip is that they are all worth buying, though id save the
    first three until last.  (neil doesnt even drum on the 1st).  off the
    bat i would buy 2112, a farewell to kings, permanent waves,
    hemispheres, moving pictures.  the live all the worlds a stage
    recording is crap, through (man, no delete key!!!) though the songs are
    performed well enough.  get those then come back and talk some more
    :').
    
    

So it sounds like you are recommending the 2nd group of albums.  Rush has
put out 4 albums then a live album consistently.  Rob is suggesting going
for the second set.  I got the first 3 as a package called Anthology.

Another vote for 2112.  That was my first Rush album.  After that I got All
the World's a Stage despite its bad sonics.  I also like Grace Under
Pressure but that is significantly different from 2112.

In summary I'd go in this order:

2112
Moving Pictures
Permanent Waves
Farewell to Kings

If you weren't so far away I'd mail you some tapes...  What's it cost to
mail to England?

Tim

    Well, since I am a long time Rush fan, here's my .02:
    
    In Order:
    
    2112
    A Farewell to Kings
    Permanent Waves
    Hemispheres
    Moving Pictures
    
    B.
    

    
    looks like we are all picking the same set of albums :')...
    
    i didnt give an order... if i did it would be something like
    
    2112
    a farewell to kings
    hemispheres
    permanent waves
    moving pictures
    
    (i think thats pretty similar to bucks...)
    

    >         -< hey buck, good order!!  
    
    
    Butofcourse!  ;')
    
    
    >	        just switch h with pw :') >-
    
    
    No way, PW rulz!

    
    of COURSE pw rules!!!!!!!  so does h, only i think h rules just a BIT
    more! :')
    
    

    >                        -< pw != power windows >-
    
    
    A big ***NOT*** !!!

    
    Funny, I was given exactly the same list from Steve who force fed me
    with 'A show of hands' saying, "You have no taste in music".  Oh, with
    the addition of 'Exit stage left'.
    
    flip

    
    a very good addition it is.
    
    

    
    Oh dear.
    
    "In the constellation of Cygnus there lurks a mysterious, invisible
    force.  The black hole of Cygnus X-1"
    
    Have you ever thought to yourself, WTF am I getting myself into...I
    picked up 2112 and AFtK today.  %^)
    
    flip

I have hemispheres on red vinyl.  You know how all their albums say distributed
on Anthem records and tapes?  I have an import copy.  Imported from Canada???

    Does'nt side one of "Hemispheres" conclude the Cygnus X-1 concept?
    If I remember rightly our matey in the Rocinante stumbles across 
    the Battle of the Gods, instigated by Dionysus and Apollo, and
    brings peace. Woah! They don't write them like that anymore. Do 
    Rush still play any excerpts from "Hemispheres"? 
    
    barry.

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Hi folks,
I had the pleasure of watching Rush play at the N.E.C Birmingham,on the 13th 
April.
After a long awaited return to the Uk it was good to see the boys back after 
4 Yrs.(I think).
As per all the press coverage the show was upto the usually mega standards to be 
expected when Rush Play Live,and although they have only recentley released a 
new album,they played a excellent set which included numbers off most of their 
albums,inc 2112,Farewell to Kings,Power Windows,Moving Pictures,Signals,Grace 
under Pressure,Presto and their new album,Roll the Bones,all that along with a 
mother of a laser and lighting shows.Alex,Geddy and Neil were all at their best 
and as usual showing that they can play just as well live as in the studio,If 
you are not allready a Rush fan you don't no what you are missing so go and buy 
an album,treat yourself.
It's worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!..



Chris.E.

 

    
    hey flip! you liked rush 3 days ago.. should have gone to see them :')
    

    
    Oh, p*ss off.  It was SOLD OUT hours after the tickets went on sale and
    that was months ago.
    
    I hope you can't get a ticket!  8^P
    

    Just and FYI that there is a Rush Fan Club on the network. Its called
    the National Midnite Star. They usually send it out daily or a couple
    days a week. Its pretty good. Alot of junk, but also alot of trivial
    material. To join, get into vaxmail and send a request to join the
    subscritpion. Send the mail to:
    
    DECWRL::"[email protected]"
    
    Bob   :*)
    
  BTW-  My favorite Rush album is Caress of Steel

    I saw them on the last tour "hold your fire" and was very impressed.The
    only thing is,who was the support on the UK side if the tour?I'm
    buggered if I can remembered.
    
    
                                                       Staynz

    Staynz... If you saw them at the SECC... then there was no support!
    
    The billing said there would be support, but . . . . . 
    
    Bonzo

    The support was meant to come from the same group that toured the
    states with them, I cant think of their name....something weird.
    
    Dont know why they didnt show up though, I missed the tour aswell :(
    
    Mark
    

    I think it`s Prong who is supporting them - or at least that`s wot
    the adverts say.
    

I thought the support was Primus.

They'll be in Paris on the 30th of April.

Didier

    Yep thats it, Primus. I cant quite see Prong touring with Rush :)
    
    
    Mark
    

    Primus,Prong,they both start with a P.
    
    I thought i wuz a bit strange myself,but then again,the mighty Voivod
    supported them in Canada.
    

       Did anyone besides me go to HITS last night to catch Moving 
    Pictures???  For those who don't them, they are a tribute
    for Rush.  They were awesome!  The sounded as good as Rush.
    They did a version of Trees that sounded better that Rush 
    did live.  I let everyone know when they are around next.
    
    BJ

    
    i told you guys to let me know where they were playing again!!!  i jeep
    hearing great things about them but havent caught them yet.  as for
    being better than rush?!?!?! come on.....
    
    

	Although I enjoyed seeing them it's beyond me these tribute bands for 
	bands who still actively tour.  And I agree, they're good but sounding 
	better, come on.

	- Jim

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    May 21	Memphis, TN    	Mid South Coliseum
    May 23	Kansas City	Kemper Arena
    May 24	Witchita, KS	Kansas Coliseum
    May 25	Oklahoma City	Myriad Arena
    May 27	Denver, CO	Fiddlers Green
    May 29	Salt Lake City	Delta Center
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    More Dates.....
    
    June 1	Reno, NV	Lawlor Events Ctr
    June 3	LA		Irvine Meadows
    June 7	Phoenix,AZ	Desert Sky Pavillion
    June 9	Albuquerque	Tingley Coliseum
    June 10	Lubbock,TX	
    June 12	St Louis,MO	Riverport Performing Arts
    June 13	Nashville,TN	Starwood
    June 14	Charlotte,NC	BlockBuster Pavillion
    June 16	DC
    June 17	Boston		Great Woods
    June 19	Meadowlands,NY
    June 20	Jones Beach Long Island
    June 23	Dayton/Cincinatti	
    June 24	Idianopolis	Deer Creek
    June 26	Detroit,MI	Pine Knob
    June 27	Chicago		World Music Theatre
    
    

    re- a few back...
    
    
        I don't know.  I saw Rush 4 times.  I just think the club sound
    from Moving Pictures sounded better than RUSH live.  IMO, there 
    aren't a lot of bands that sound identical to the studio sound.
    
    BJ

    Anybody going to the show at Great Woods this Wednesday? Ill be there!
          
    

    
    Candy Coolidge said that she would be there.
    
    Flip

    
    I'll pass, but this reminds me, I do need to get in touch with Donna Halper
    again.

    Donna Halper??
    

    -1
    
    She apparently "found" Rush and got them their record deal.  I guess
    it's her one claim to fame as an A&R person.

    Its been a while since I have played the 1st RusH album, but I do also
    recall a major thanks going out to a station in Ohio??..That really
    pushed the 1st album ALOT. Ill have to look at the cover tonite.
    
    Bob
    

    
    She used to be a DJ at that station. Step-mother of an ex-girlfriend.

re: .269
    
>    Its been a while since I have played the 1st RusH album,
    
    Was that *you* man?  *I* played on that session too!  They had this
    guitar player, Alex or something like that, who was just terrible and
    they got me to come in and play most of the guitar parts 'cause he
    couldn't keep time!  And I got NO credit on the album either, I was
    P*SSED!
    
    Oh...you don't mean "played ON that album".  Woop, never mind!
    
    gh

    
    	Come on back to Earth, Greg, when you get a chance.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    The RusH show lastnite at Greatwoods was AWESOME!!!!...as usual
    

    Skid Row has recorded "What You're Doin'" as part of some CD
    of cover songs.  Has anybody listened to their version yet ?
    
    If memory servesme correctly, isn't What You're Doin' a copy
    of Heartbreak, by LED ZED ?
    
    Mike

    
    oh GAWD!!!!  now they dare to defile MY favorite band!  eesh.
    
    

    Geddy Lee looks like my grandma and plays bass like she snores.
    
     Friz
    

    
    
    Well, Friz, all I can say is that your grandma must be one kick@ss
    snorer!

    
    she must be above and beyond the call ok kick-ass snoring!!!  can she
    also play keyboard and sing while she snores with her feet?
    
    

    Friz- Get your hearing checked...The skids are in no way even remotley
    as talented as RusH.....BTW--You must have a fackin ugly grandma
    
    Bob

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    I just felt like putting this in here....bored today!

    
    now fill in the dice :')
    
    

    It's been awhile since anyone has written anything here.
    Hi my name is Chris Vermette and I'm new to digital but you may have
    read my other notes elsewhere.
    I finally found the RUSH topic and would like to enter my favorite and
    worst list.
    
    Favs : (in order of appeal)
    	Hemispheres
    	Moving Pictures
    	A Farewell to Kings
    	2112
    	Permanent Waves
    
    Not so Fav : (in order of dislike)
    	Caress Of Steel
    	Grace Under Pressure
    	Power Windows
    	Hold Your Fire
    	Presto
    
    I like Roll the Bones, only because they brought back the Guitar. I
    agree that it doesn't hold a match to the early stuff, but it is a sigh
    of relief in comparision to the mid to late eighties albums.
    
    My favortie song IMHO has got to be La Villa Strangiato.
    Followed by :
    	Limelight
    	The Trees
    	Hemispheres
    	Xanadu
    	Red Barchetta
    	Natural Science
    	Where's My Thing
    	Ghost of a Chance
    	Note: I like Tom Sawyer but technically speaking it doesn't hold a
    match to some of thier other songs. Musically speaking of course.
    
    I hope they are in Le Studio and are working the next installment of
    the four part trilogy.
    
    I also have a question hopefully one of you guys can answer.
    here goes ...
    I have heard that 2112, Farewell to kings and Hemispheres are connected
    in some way. The people I talked to didn't know where the connection
    was had heard there was one. Besides the obvious, Cygnus X-1 Book I and
    II. Where, if at all, Does 2112 fit in? Is the guy who found the guitar
    in 2112, the pilot of the Rocinante in Cygnus?
    
    And a bit of trivia - Do you know what the three part of FEAR are. Part
    three is listed in Show of Hands as Witch Hunt. I just want to see if
    I'm right on the first two parts.
    
    Chris "I wish I was Alex Lifeson's Love Child" Vermette

    I think one other part of the "Fear" trilogy might be The Weapon
    (is that the tight title? It's been ages) from "Signals". Can't
    remember the other one though. 
    
    barry. 

    
    Part III is Witch Hunt, Part II is the Weapon, Part I is The Enemy
    Within.
    

    
    	Was Part III in 3-D?  If not, it should have been.
    
    							GTI

    
    ????
    
    that made absolutely no sense.
    

    
    	Attempt??  That was an all-out gut-wrencher!!
    
    							GTI
    

    You should know you don`t joke with Rush. 
    

    
    Hmmm...  I get it... like
    
    Lethal Weapon 3D
    3D little pigs
    Rambo 3D
    Rocky 3D
    William J. Buckley IIId
    
    ah... funny...
    
    ps, part 3 came out before 2 and 1 with rush...
    

    Okay, I was right on the other two (parts of Fear).
    
    no one has answered this one though -
    > I also have a question hopefully one of you guys can answer.
    > here goes ...
    > I have heard that 2112, Farewell to kings and Hemispheres are connected
    > in some way. The people I talked to didn't know where the connection
    > was had heard there was one. Besides the obvious, Cygnus X-1 Book I and
    > II. Where, if at all, Does 2112 fit in? Is the guy who found the guitar
    > in 2112, the pilot of the Rocinante in Cygnus?
    
    I would really like some info on it as it has been bugging me for quite
    some time.
    
    Thanks.
    
    Chris "If I could only take lessons from Alex ..." Vermette

    
    i really think that that is a subjective question.  there was nothing
    specific intended by the band themselves.  if people have found such a
    connection, it is just their own perspective.  you may want to consider
    subscribing to the usenet rush newsletter.  they publish a list of
    frequently asked questions and there you will find HUNDREDS of big time
    rush fans.  i dont recall the mailing address, but i believe it is
    published someplace in this note string.
    

    I'm now on it and am waiting fro the list of FAQ.
    I'm just wondering if anyone else might know and save me the trouble of
    pestering those fine people there for that.
    
    Chris "If I could only have Alex Lifeson's gear" Vermette

    
    those people live for that stuff :').
    
    

    Anyone have any info. on when the next Rush album is due out?  It's
    been awhile(too long for me!).
    
    
    Chip "who'd like to hear more Lifeson like the old days" Roy

    -1
    
    Agreed on last part!
    
    Buck, who'd like to see a Rush revisited from the COS - PW days!!

    I heard it was already out.....   Strawberries didn't
    have any confirmation on this though....
    
    
    BJ

    
    where did you hear that?!?!?!?!
    
    sorry, it's not due out until the september time frame...
    
    

    Word is that when RUsh tours in late 93, Dream Theater will be
    the opening band!  Cool double bill or what?!

    Sleeze Beez

    That is TOO fackin' cool!!
    
    

    That would be a cool bill!!!
                                Rat

    I got the Grace Under Pressure CD the other day.
    
    Verdict:excellent.
    

    
    Rob will have an orgasm when he reads that.
    
    

    "Grace Under Pressure" is probably the least played album I have of
    Rush's, apart from the debut which really is'nt anything more than
    Led Zeppelin by numbers. The thing I do remember about listening 
    to it for the first time was the return of Alex's guitar sound after
    it had been mixed well down on "Signals" (still, a good album regardless). 
    I have'nt heard a Rush album since the last live one. Are they still 
    putting out good stuff?
    
    barry.
    
    
                              

    No way, I heard Poison was going to be opening...
    
    gh

    
    
    A show of hands is Excellant....IMO..The last, Roll the Bones is good. 
    Has a lot of the "old Rush" sound on it..
    
    Jef

    
    
    would be great if it was to happen, but last i heard it was only
    wishful conjecture on DT's part and that rush's album release would
    have to coincide with DT's touring and they didn't think that would
    happen.
    
    

    So in other words you got our hopes up for nothing?
                                                       Rat

    who?  *i* never said they were touring with rush....  it would be great
    if that happened, but i personally doubt it will
    

    Well somebody said it....

    For those of you watching the baseball all-star game, you may be
    pleased to know that Geddy Lee will be singing the Canadian national
    anthem.

    
    cool!
    

This sounds too strange to be true...  I wonder how he'll be introduced?

Tim

>This sounds too strange to be true...  I wonder how he'll be introduced?

Um, how about..

"And now singing the Canadian and American National Anthems, Mr. Geddy Lee"

is that so outrageous?!? :^)

-a

Yeah, like most baseball fans will have even heard of him or Rush for that
matter.

Hopefully he'll toss in a bit of the Bytor and the Snow Dog medley they
used to do...

>Yeah, like most baseball fans will have even heard of him or Rush for that
>matter.


	What the hell is that supposed to mean?????  

	/Cap'n Quad

	

>Yeah, like most baseball fans will have even heard of him or Rush for that
>matter.

Does that matter???

They've introduced others before who come from other musical genre's
that *I* had no clue who they were. But they didn't give a bibliography
just for my benefit. :^)

>Hopefully he'll toss in a bit of the Bytor and the Snow Dog medley they
>used to do...

That would be cool but probably too much to hope for.

-a

    HOGAN>> For those of you watching the baseball all-star game, you may be
    HOGAN>> pleased to know that Geddy Lee will be singing the Canadian
    HOGAN>> national anthem.
    
    ROB> "Oh Canada"
    
    Are you sure he's not going to do "Take Off to the Great White North"
    instead?  ;-)
    
    	db

    Take off, hoser!

    "We found a mouse in this beer."
    

    
    this is me on drums...
    
    

It's in the Canadien criminal code.

    Do you guys know the story behind that skit?  It's a gem.
    
    That show, "SCTV" was done in Canada.  All those guys are Canadian
    (John Candy, Rick Moranis, etc.).
    
    The Canadian government passed a law that a certain percentage of
    Canandian television programming must have "Canadian content".
    
    The writers of SCTV understandably, viewed this as government
    interference in the realm of art so they decided to do a paraody
    on Canandians in an attempt to strike back, and thus have the
    law backfire on itself.
    
    Considering that during that year, when someone mentioned "Canada"
    almost everyone in the country thought of "The Great White North" and
    those two hosers (hardly a complimentary image of Canada), I'd say that
    you'd have to think that the makers of that law are absolutely broiled
    over how it was used against them.
    
    	db

Actually, you are only part right.

SCTV is(was) 100% Canadian.  (with the exception of Harold Ramis, who was a 
writer for the show I believe).

The real reason that the Great White North Show was created on SCTV is due to
the following:

The CRTC (I think it's like your FCC) permits fewer commercials per hour than
in the US.  Since the show was aired in both countries, the net result was that
the Canadian version had to be about two minutes longer.  Thus the creation
of Bob and Doug.

                              

    I think both our explanations are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
    
    The one I posted was more-or-less from the horse's mouth though: I
    don't remember his name, but the guy who played one of those hosers
    (I think the actor's name was "Dave") said that during an interview
    I caught.

    
    Interesting story Dave, and I could definitely believe it too. 
    
>    Considering that during that year, when someone mentioned "Canada"
>    almost everyone in the country thought of "The Great White North" and
>    those two hosers (hardly a complimentary image of Canada), I'd say that
>    you'd have to think that the makers of that law are absolutely broiled
>    over how it was used against them.
 
    Interestingly enough, though, I can't *tell* you how many Canadians
    that I knew that actually *were* like that!!  Complementary, probably
    not.  Accurate, I think so!  At least in the same sense that there
    really are a lot of young people from Southern California that are like
    the stereotypical "valley" person.
    
    Greg 

    Heard on the radio today new RUSH release (album, disk, whatever) due
    out in Sept.  Any more on this....?
    
    

    I heard the same thing...Hope it's true....I wish they'd go back to
    their roots a little more. The last showed some hints but still give
    the old stuff and I'm in heaven.
    
    Jeff

    There is a petition going around to get Dream Theater on the tour bill
    with RUSH for the US leg of their forthcoming album support tour!

 >   There is a petition going around to get Dream Theater on the tour bill
 >   with RUSH for the US leg of their forthcoming album support tour!

Now THAT would be cool!

-a

    
    depending on schedules, but doesnt look like it will happen.  DT has
    only a couple weeks left of touring, then it's quits for them until
    their next album is out...  maybe possible for the end of the rush tour
    leg depending on how things happen.
    

> >   There is a petition going around to get Dream Theater on the tour bill
> >   with RUSH for the US leg of their forthcoming album support tour!
>
>Now THAT would be cool!
    
    Yeah, that'd be great!  That way I could avoid 'em both at the same
    time!!!
    
    gh

>    Yeah, that'd be great!  That way I could avoid 'em both at the same
>    time!!!
 
ouch...


:^)

    nice shot Greg.

    
    
    ....I think they're both utterly shite!
    
    
    
      8^)

    You are definately wrong coz RUSH are excellent....
    
    Well Half wrong at the very least
    
    
    
    Bonzo  *)

    album is supposedly due oct19
    and is supposed to " make roll the bones sound like a bunch of love
    songs" - from an unknown source believed to be on the radio....

    The new album will be called Counterpart.
    
    I can't wait.
    

    Here is the latest word on the new album taken from the Rush FAQ.
    
       Peter Collins produced the album (he produced HYF and PoW).
    
    
       The album title is either Counterpart or Counterparts, and the 11
    songs are:
    
        Animate
            - starts out with "1... 2... 3... 4..." (a la Tom Sawyer) and
              then Neil breaks into a drum beat.
        Stick It Out
            - this is apparently the first single, and is supposedly going
              to be released sometime around September 25-30.
        Cut To The Chase
        Nobody's Hero
            - is not only about a friend who died of AIDS, but of victims
            in general (esp. of violence)
        Between Sun And Moon
        Alien Shore
        Speed Of Love
        Double Agent
        Leave That Thing Alone
            - an instrumental, but whether it's part of 'Gangster Of
            Boats' remains to be seen.
        Cold Fire
        Every Day Glory
    
       As of June 18, John Nardachone (Atlantic's metal/hard rock contact)
       has said that the album release date has been pushed back to
       November.
    
       On August 11, Will Geeslin posted that "someone at Atlantic
       Records" said that the album will be released on October 19.
     

    
    way cool!  i have someone working on getting a copy of it...
    

    new rush out in u.k. 18 october.
    
    jim.
    

    
    the date's the same here.  just heard a new rush tune on the radio
    saturday.  was sort of cool.  not really technical or anything but
    rather heavy.  it was nice that the reason it was rather heavy though
    was the loud jamming *guitar*!!!  not very many keys in the song at
    all.
    
    

    Guitar?  In a song by RUSH?  In the last 10 years?  They must have
    announced it wrong...

    
    announced what wrong?  wasnt announced that it had guitar, i HEARD it!
    
    ps, thursday night on waaf at i believe it's 10pm, they are playing the
    whole album and will have rush on as well.  supposed to run for 2
    hours.
    

    No, I meant maybe they said the song was by Rush and it was really
    someone else...

    FWIW Co. Doods - KILO is doing the same thing Rob talked about.
    Play the whole CD and interview the band...  The radio commercial
    had Alex on there saying - "Only one way to get TONE, and thats 
    to plug into your rig, and wring the knobs out."  :-)
    
    jc

    
    	The new song cranks!!  I was surprised, as has been mentioned.
    
    	They lost some of that "electronic" sound, which seems to be a
    	very good move.
    
    							GTI
    

Heard another song tonight and they're back to the Signals/Grace Under
Pressure or even ealier.  Alex is audible and does seem to have found his
guitar again.

I should have tried to hear the rest but I had to get back to work...

Tim

    
    i fought with my stereo to get in waaf and record this thing.  worked
    for about 110 minutes then i lost it.  oh well.  the albums out monday
    or tuesday anyway...
    
    

    I heard pieces of 2 songs and the related interviews, actually sounded
    interesting.  The last couple of Rush albums have seemed kind of boring
    to me, from a song perspective.  They've always been skillful
    musicians, but I really don't listen for that kind of thing anymore
    (maybe I never did).
    
    One of the songs had a very pop music kind of sound to it with one of
    those hooks in the chorus that you'll hear once and be humming for
    days.  I think they'll probably do well with this release.
    
    Oh yeah, and as already mentioned, the guitar's up in the forefront of
    the mix, nice.
    
    Greg

    I hear the new album special last night. This is for sure the best
    album Rush has done in years.  The guitars are way up front and heavy.
    Alex's playing is very strong and sounds a lot like Eric Johnson. Geddy
    sound has also improved greatly.  His tone sounds a lot like it did
    on Moving Pictures and his technique is just amazing.  He must have 
    spent the last year or so building his chops.  Neil is a lot less
    flashy than on previous stuff but he really finds the song's groove
    well.  However, if you listen closely, there is a lot of intricate 
    stuff going on.  I'll will be definitely be first in line to buy
    this one.   It's being released on Tues in North America and I hear
    it is coming out on Mon in Europe.
    Enjoy!

>    Alex's playing is very strong and sounds a lot like Eric Johnson. Geddy
    
    Better EJ and Satch than Vai and Morse.

    >                                                              Geddy
    >sound has also improved greatly.  His tone sounds a lot like it did
    >on Moving Pictures and his technique is just amazing.
    
    I hear that he went back to the Fender and dunked the Wal for the
    entire album( same used on Moving Pictures).
     
    Chris
    

    One of the things they were discussing in the segment I heard was how
    they recorded Geddy's bass on one of the songs.  He said they used this
    ancient tube amp (that one of the studio techs had found in a TRASH CAN
    and fixed), miked up in addition to his normal direct setup and it
    added a lot of energy to the sound.  He said the amp was cranked all
    the way and he was afraid that it was gonna blow up the whole time.
    
    Greg

I remember seeing them when he used Rickenbackers.  You can hear the classic
Rick bass plunk all over All the World's a Stage.

Tim

Steve Morse of the Boston Globe had a good review:  From today's Boston
Globe 10/19/93  (Reprinted without permission... Timbo)

Rush: Challenging the mind as rock's senior statesmen

Canadian power=trio Rush scraped for years to get to the top of the
hard-rock field.  Now that the group is there, Rush deserves credit for not
slipping into the arena-rock smugness of many of their peers.  If anything,
the band appears increasingly comfortable with the role of senior
statesmen: Witness the new album, "Counterparts", due in stores today.

Unlike many hard-rockers who are still trying to satisfy their egos and
libidos, Rush writes new songs that attack racism and sexism ("Alien
Shore"), sympathize with a friend who died of AIDS ("Nobody's Hero"),
defend a woman concerned with mail physical abuse ("Cold Fire"), and warn
about putting up with corporate and societal lies ("Stick it Out").

Singer Geddy Lee, once a shrieky yowler who's now among the most improved
vocalists in rock, offers this statesmanlike observation in the
guitar-driven "Cut to the Chase":

    I'm old enough not to care too much about what you think of me
    But I'm young enough to remember the future 
    And the ways things ought to be.
    
Amazingly enough, Rush will celebrate its 20th anniversary next year.  A
tour is planned to start in January (no word yet on a local date), but, for
the moment, this album will have to suffice.  And suffice it does with a
jarringly virtuosic, socially conscious batch of songs that should heighten
a respect cemented in 1991 with the disc "Roll the Bones", followed by a
sold out Worcester Centrum show.

Rush may be too preachy for some listeners, and too unmelodic for others
(guitarist Alex Lifeson can still play with dental-drill relentlessness),
but this album marks a major step forward.  The former Rush sin of bombast
creeps in the the new track "The Speed of Love" ("Nothing changes faster
than the speed of love", Lee sings), but most songs challenge the mind,
even as they're ripping through the brain with monster guitar riffs and the
big-beat arena-size drum sounds of Neil Peart.

Befitting Rushs role as cerebral rock philosophers, the song "Animate" pays
tribute to psychologist Carl Jung, notaly Jung's thesis of merging the anima
(feminine side') and animus (masculine side).  How many hard-rock bands
delve this deep?  And a bright overlay of optimism coats the last track,
"everyday Glory": "If the future's looking dar, we're the ones who have to
shine".

The band keeps that promise here.

    
    	re: -1
    
    	ok, let me guess...
    
    	Steve Morse is PR manager at Rush's record company...
    
    	...SJ...
    

    
    he's a columnist for the boston globe if i recall (or is it the
    herald...)
    

    They've been playing "Stick it Out" on the radio around here quite a
    bit and I have to admit that most of the last few albums have turned me
    off, this song's starting to grow on me.  I may have to pick this album
    up one of these day.
    
    gh

I will be picking this one up.  They seem to have gotten back to basics again.

I've liked this band since I first saw them on the Farewell to Kings tour (with
my elbows on the stage in front of Alex)...  The last couple albums got me
hooked on a song they played on the radio, then the rest of the album just
doesn't hold up.

Tim

    
    even alan said the same thing as greg...  :')
    

    Could this Album be a Case of"Less_Is_More"???
    The Music seems A_Bit more Basic..Which makes it more Catchy..
    I think so Any_Ways..
    
           Crazy_Like_What_I_Hear_Al

    This new album takes a bit of listening but it soon grabs you.
    
    Cold fire and Between the Sun and the Moon are amazing.  They seem to
    have gone back to basics and come out with a good album.  Alexs guitar
    in the final song in the verse is brilliant. 
    
    Did it take anyone else a few listens ?
    
    Cheers 
    
    Russell (A new contributor from England)
    
    Does anyone know about tour possibilities ?

    re: -1 
    I love double agent and leave that thing alone!
    Rush begins in january in Florida.
    
    Chris
    

    
    the album is pretty good, but one of the things i always liked about
    rush is missing... the progressiveness.
    
    even though it is good, after 12 listens or so, i rate it their 2nd
    worst album.  (signals being the 1st, even though i still enjoy it).
    

And what's the best?

    The best Rush album of all time has got to be permanent waves...
    or maybe 2112...
    
    IMHO, natch,
    jc

    
    
    thats a tought one...
    
    i would vote for either:
    
    permanent waves, hemispheres or a farewell to kings.  depending on my
    mood.
    

    My vote:
    1 Hemispheres
    2 2112
    3 permanent waves - ONLY because of natural science, other than that
      it's not that great ( same thing with Caress of steel - The
      Necromancer is good for the story type of progressive material.)
    
    About the new album:
    I was hoping between sun and moon would be a progressive song. It
    definately sounds like a YES song title more than Rush.
    
    Chris
    

    Cool King Crimson p-name, Chris!
    
    gh

    Why, thank you gh.
    My last one was Rush oriented and I have ahd it for a long time so I
    decided to change it to something else just as cool.
    
    Speaking of the my last message ...
    Have the progressive buffs out there listened to early Genesis.
    Back  inthe seventies with Peter Gabriel has the Lead singer.....
    Good stuff. My Favorite song from them would be The Music Box from the
    album Nursery Crimes. I think the year is 1972 or 73.
    
    
    And then there is ELP and their second release Picturees at an
    Exhibition(if your into keys from that age).
    
    
    
    Chris "To Summon back the Fire Witch, to the Court Of the Crimson King"
       Vermette
    

    Yeah, I'm also a big fan of the Gabriel era Genesis.  The vocal
    harmonies always impressed me.  You mentioned "The Musical Box", which
    is a wonderful song.  I also loved stuff like "Apolypse in 9/8", "Los
    Endos", "Dance On a Volcano", "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" (who
    album, wild story...definitely done in the "just say 'yes'" era...) and
    others.
    
    They pretty much went downhill after he left, although I did like the
    live album, "Seconds Out", that they did with Phil Collins singing
    right after Peter left.  Interestingly enough, I also love Peter's solo
    stuff, even though it's not much like the Genesis material.  Most of
    the new Genesis stuff was too pop sounding for me.
    
    I was also into a lot of the earlier ELP stuff too (Tarkus, B.S.S,
    etc), but haven't really listened to that stuff much in about the last
    10-15 years.
    
    Greg

Rob,

Saw all of those tours, the furthest I was from the stage was Permanent
Waves, (Row 3).  The Permanent Wave Tour made it to Montreal before the
album was out - although Spirit of Radio had been played as a teaser for
the concert ad.

I have pictures too because back in the middle ages you used to be able to
bring cameras to concerts...


Tim


    

    So what do we think about Counterparts....
    
    IMO.....it's great...they just keep getting better.  I like the fact
    that most songs concentrate on the original three piece concept.
    
    MW

    2112 wil always be my fav!!!

2112 was what got me started on these guys too!

    just got the new rush cd. have only listened to first 4/5 tracks but
    it has by far the most guitar on a rush lp for ages. ian, i'll lend you
    it next week :-)
    
    ps. did anyone notice the pic. on the sleeve with geddy playing drums,
    geddy playing guitar...geddy playing everything and singing too!
    
    jim
    

    Geddy....one of those all around kinda guys.
    
    Best release in ages...
    mw

    I agree, this album is one of the best for a while.  It just gets
    better and better.
    
    I also think 'Signals' is a good album, and it seems like one of the
    few !
    
    Cheers Russell

    since getting Counterparts it has got better and better. even tracks
    like nobodies hero and stick it out, which i thought were duff and "too
    odd" sounding respectively are now brilliant...i play this cd every
    morning while getting ready for work.
    
    buy it now!!!!!
    
    jim.

    At last i have found a note worth reading,
     Yes Rush are my favourite and are still producing great music after
     nearly 20 years.Haven't heard there latest album but by the reports
     i have been reading I will have to RUSH out and buy it at the week
     end.
     I have seen Rush 4 times here in Scotland twice in Edinburgh and 
     the other 2 time in the SEC in Glasgow.The latter being the Roll the
     bones tour which I thought was one of the best(apart from a little bit
     of sound trouble at the start).
     I will let you know what i think of Counterparts but i am sure i will
     enjoy it.
     
                     Sean.. .
                                 
                             
     
    

    
    a rush fan of that magnitude WAITING to buy the album?!?!?  you should
    have been in LINE on day 1!!!  :')
    
    

    re-2
    
    aye sean, get it now!!!, its the best for ages.
    
    jim
    

    
       Any word on tour dates? I'm in the Philly area and I haven't 
    heard anything yet.
                                  Clark C.
                                  (Haven't missed a Rush tour since 
                                   Signals!!)

    
    And for Europe, lets not forget us over here!
    
    Any dates will be greatly appreciated!
    
    
    Cheers Russell

    
    anybody have any dates in MA/RI other than 3/12 and 13?  are they at
    providence or springfield?
    

    
    still looking for other tour dates....  now the review...
    
    Before going to the show, I hear Rush has completely changed their
    light/movie show.  Looks like it was changed because of budgetary
    reasons.  Absolutely no lasers this tour.  The old cool movies got
    dropped in favor of new lame movies (except for a couple of parts with
    some cool 3D rendered stuff).  The giant screen was generally just two
    projectors showing the same thing, one reversed from the other.
    Geddy was hitting sour notes left and right all show.  Not much energy
    involved.  I was bored most of the night.  The song selection was lame. 
    Lots of new stuff and they dropped some of my favs from the past.
    They had flames and some firework type explosions though.  That was
    kind of cool, but would rather have had the lasers.  Alex looked like
    he put on weight, Neil looked tired (and actually, with the
    'hat/headband' thing he was wearing, and the goatee, he looked like he
    belonged in anthrax :') ).  neil also sports a new set.  he dropped the
    double bass in favor of double pedals, dropped most of his special
    percussion instruments, with the exception of cowbells for midi, and
    had lots of midi things happening over his solo and some of the songs. 
    i always wondered how he played some of those things...  midi.. the
    bastard :').  musically, everything was right on, vocally and visually
    though, was kind of lame.  Hey, im glad i went, it was rush, but this
    was by far the worst ive ever seen them at.  just glad i didnt pay $35
    for the seats i had.  i usually like sitting in 201 for rush because of
    the light show.  glad i was up front where i could see the band, cause
    201 would have been boring this time around.
    

Seems like I've arrived at a bit of a quiet point in the Rush conference !!.

As a newie on the conferencing scene, I've been browsing around and come upon 
this gem of a conference, so I'll just introduce myself.

I'm an English Rush fan, getting into them first around Permanent Waves, but 
soon building up the whole catalogue. It always intrigues me that Rush have this 
great oldies v newies debate - personally I love it all (except Caress of 
Steel). I notice that in all the notes about fave albums, nobody mentions two of 
my top 3 - Presto and Roll the Bones. I know they're neither progressive nor 
traditional, but the quality of the songwriting, production and (especially) 
Neil's lyrics completely blow me away - The Pass has to be one of THE best. 

Like everyone else, I found Counterparts a struggle at first, but yeah, it does 
grow, and well over 50% can be classed as great. 

I finally got to see the band at Birmingham (England, not Alabamah !) on the 
Roll The Bones tour, after over 10 years of trying. Two words sum up the 
experience FU**ING AMAZING. Lots of great new stuff and a surprising amount of 
the best oldies - I know the band have always been adamant that they'll play 
what THEY want to, not what the fans might prefer, but perhaps the return of 
Xanadu to the set might give us hope that some of the other great oldies may 
make a return. Pity about the support act though, whose name (fortunately) 
escapes me.

Apart from Rush, I'm into (in no particluar order);

Def Leppard, MSG, UFO, Pallas (Scottigh Prog Band - started alongside Marillion, 
but didn't get the breaks), RunRig (who'll need no introduction to our Scottish 
Listeners - I may be the first recorded English Fan), Tesla, Stan Bush (whatever 
happened to ....), Aldo Nova, and many many more.

Any views on Roll The Bones and Presto anyone ???

Glad to be on board



Mark Thomas @ IME

>    I'm an English Rush fan,
    
    And I didn't even know there was an English Rush, the only one I knew
    about was the Canadian one!  Man, the Canadian guys should sue those
    English guys, THEY HAVE ALL THE SAME ALBUM TITLES!!
    
    Greg

    
    	I admit it, I laughed.
    
    	I'm so ashamed!!
    
    							GTI

    I wandered home through silent streets
    and fell into a fitful sleep
    escape to realms beyond the night
    dreams can't you show me the light?
    
    <>
    
    I stand a top a spiral stair
    an Oracle confronts me there
    he leads me on light years away
    through astral nights, galactic days
    

Heard a song on the radio today...  usually when I hear something new it's just
okay, but this grabbed me.

Then I heard the unmistakable solos - figued out what it was.

Victor - featuring Alex Lifeson.

I think the song was Problem.   Rulin' toon...  Anyone else heard this?

Tim

    
    The tune is called Promise and it rocks.

    	Heard on WAAF that this trio is completing another recording.
    
    	I guess Victor was just a time killer for Alex...

    Well I heard the new one for Rush this morning...and it's typical Rush!
    
    Wickedly wicked!
    
    Meaning, if ya don't like Rush tuneage, ya probably won't like this
    stuff either...if you're a fan of this incredible trio...you'll most
    likely like it!
    
    It's called "?????" (missed it cause I think I was still pondering my
    exhistence) and it's off the album called "Testing the Echo"!
    
    	J

    Great! I can't wait to hear it ... I think they get better with each
    album. Especially since Geddy's voice changed a few years ago.

    Sorry gang...it's called "Test for Echo"...and it still kicks !
    
    	J

    Did anyone else hear the world album premier last night?  I missed most
    of it cause I was kickin alien a$$ in L.A., but what I heard was OK. 
    Nothing really grabbed my attention though.  I suppose alot of people
    missed it cause they were watchin the MTV Awards eh?  
    
    	J

    Re: -1
    
    I heard it when it first came on around 9:15p and the
    lady was interviewing Geddy Lee.  She said they would
    be interviewing all 3 of em so you must have just caught
    the tail end or something...
    
    Shane

    The members of Rush are in Ottawa today to receive the Order Of Canada
    from the Governor General. They're being rewarded for staying Canadian
    I guess.

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    	I thought I passed Geddy's nose on the 417 this morning!
    
    	   J

This ain't mine, a friend of mine on AOL sent me this ditty, don't know 
how accurate any of it is... Although I do hope they show up at Great 
Woods this summer. Better get tickets early if they do...

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Test For Echo tour dates</font><p>
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Here they are! Many of them are still unconfirmed, but look for them
to solidify in the next week. I also heard that the Dallas date will
be going on sale March 28th.<p>
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Apr 25 - Virginia Beach Amphitheater. Virginia Beach, VA<br>
Apr 26 - Walnut Creek Amphitheater. Raleigh, NC<br>
Apr 28 - Lakewood Amphitheater. Atlanta, GA<br>
Apr 29 - Starwood Amphitheater. Nashville, TN<br>
May 1  - Pensacola Civic Center. Pensacola, FL (NOT CONFIRMED)<br>
May 3  - Starplex Amphitheater. Dallas, TX<br>
May 4  - Woodlands Amphitheater. Houston, TX<br>
May 6 or 7 - Delta Center. Salt Lake City, UT<br>
May 10 - Irvine Meadows. Irvine, CA *OR* Glen Helen. Devore, CA<br>
May 11 - Shoreline Amphitheater, Mountain View CA<br>
May 13 - Rose Garden. Portland, OR (NOT CONFIRMED)<br>
May 14 or 15 - Key Arena. Seattle, WA<br>
May 16 or 17 - The Gorge. George, WA<p>

===BREAK===<p>

June 4 or 5 - Fiddlers' Green Amphitheater. Englewood, CO<br>
June 6  - Riverport Amphitheater. St. Louis, MO<br>
June 7  - Sandstone Amphitheater in Kansas<br>
June 10 - Deer Creek Music Center. Indianapolis, IN<br>
June 11 - Riverbend Music Center. Cincinnati, OH<br>
June 13 - World Music Center. Chicago, IL *OR* Pine Knob. Detroit, MI<br>
June 14 - Alpine Valley. E. Troy, WI *OR* World Music Center. Chicago, 
IL<br>
June 16 - Polaris Amphitheater. Columbus, OH<br>
June 17 - Star Lake Amphitheater. Pittsburgh, PA *OR* Pine Knob. Detroit, 
MI<br>
June 19 - Garden State Arts Center, NJ *OR* Blossom Music Center, 
Cleveland<br>
June 20 - Merriwether Post Pavillion, MD *OR* Star Lake, Pittsburgh<br>
June 22 - New Jersey<br>
June 23 - Great Woods Amphitheater. Mansfield, MA<br>
June 25 - Jones Beach. Long Island, NY<br>
June 26 - NOT CONFIRMED<br>
July 1  - Ottawa<p>

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That's it for now.  Please do NOT email me for any more dates, I CANNOT 
HELP
YOU.  When dates are known, we post them.   Thanks, it makes my email 
much
more managable that way.<p>
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