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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

3038.0. "Another Strat Re-Build" by POLAR::KFICZERE () Sat Feb 11 1995 11:12

    	So, I just read the 'DIR /TIT= STRAT' directory....WOW! Quite
    	large. Topics range in everything you could possibly think of.
    	So here I go to add to it....
    
    	I currently own a Japanese 50's reissue (1981). originally
    	equipted with maple neck,3-way switch,and is two-tone
    	sunburst in color. After 2 previous owners (that I know of)
    	some minor changes have taken place. The bridge p-up was
    	replace with some cheesy single coil of unknown origin,
    	which I eventually replaced with a reverse wound Charvel,
    	moving it into the middle position and putting the original
    	at the bridge (The price was right). Also, I replaced the 
    	3-way with a 5-way, due to the fact that the original
    	was finished.
    	
    	As much as I really hated the fact that the guitar is 
    	modified from its original state, I have come to deal
    	with it and have finally decided that it is time to 
    	get this thing road worthy.
    
    	I would like to do the following mod's:
    
    	Replace the neck with another Fender neck
    	(my locol shops have 80's necks in for $160)
    	I'd like the neck to be a lefty as well (what the hell!)
    
    	A set of Custom shop Texas Specials all around
    
    	And the same electronics as my Ultra/Plus---TBX tones, ect..
    
    	The total $ would be somewhere around $500, labor incl. My 
    	question is, will it all be worth it ? The body of my Jap
    	is "BASSWOOD" I've never heard of it and am curious as 
    	to how it will effect my overall tone in the end. It sounds
    	pretty good now I guess, considering the sh*tty E-tronics.
    	I will add that the original 50's neck is toast, and for the 
    	price of a re-fret and set-up, I can replace it with a new one.
    	
    	Thanx,
    	-Kev
    
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3038.1LASIDO NECKS?POLAR::KFICZERESat Feb 11 1995 16:107
    		Also, any comments/info on LASIDO necks?
    		I spotted one at the local shop and it's
    		about $80 cheaper than the fenders.
    		Looks identical but unfinished.
    		
    
    		-kev
3038.2SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideMon Feb 13 1995 07:0217
        ...
>    	The total $ would be somewhere around $500, labor incl. My 
>    	question is, will it all be worth it ? The body of my Jap
>    	is "BASSWOOD" I've never heard of it and am curious as 
>    	to how it will effect my overall tone in the end. It sounds
>    	pretty good now I guess, considering the sh*tty E-tronics.
>    	I will add that the original 50's neck is toast, and for the 
>    	price of a re-fret and set-up, I can replace it with a new one.
 
        Not in  my  opinion,  Kev.  Sounds like the only thing you like
        about this guitar  is  the body and basswood isn't particularly
        great.  You say  the  neck  is junk, electrics are junk etc.  -
        all that's left are the  body,  scratchplate,  strap  pegs  and
        tuners and maybe the trem bridge.    Throwing  $500  into  that
        seems pointless. Your mileage may vary!
        
        Andy
3038.3Just a thought.WMOIS::POIRIERMon Feb 13 1995 08:5210
    
    Kevin, Just a suggestion. Ever think about just selling the reissue and
    taking that money and the money you were going to use for the upgrade and 
    just buying a used American std. Stratocaster. Daddy's music has alot
    of used stuff at pretty good deals. Also, the WANT add has pages and
    pages of guitars.
    
    Just my 2 cents.
    
    Gordie
3038.4GANTRY::ALLBERYJimMon Feb 13 1995 10:0911
    RE: LaSiDo necks.
    
    I don't know about LaSiDo's replacement necks, but know a little bit
    about the company.  LaSiDo is largest guitar manufacturer (believe it
    or not) in North America.  They make Seagull, Simon and Patrick, and
    Godin guitars.  All of their products tend to have excellent bang for
    the buck.  The Godin electrics are particularly noteworthy.  Since
    Godin offers both Strat and Tele instruments, I would not be surprised
    if the LaSiDo replacement necks are the same necks used on Godins.
    
    Jim
3038.5Throwing good $ into a bad investment.MILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetMon Feb 13 1995 10:3419
	Your Japanese-made Strat is only worth about $250 on the used market, 
    at least here in the USA. Upgrade it with $500 worth of new parts and it 
    will still be worth $250. This may seem like a simplistic way of looking 
    at it but no matter how much you invest in this guitar, it will always be 
    a *used* Japanese-made Fender guitar. I'd say to keep the guitar as a 
    beater (or sell it) and invest the money into something worthwhile. A guy 
    I work with has an American Standard Strat for sale, (in Showroom 
    condition) and he's asking ~$450.  

    	As far as building a guitar from parts is concerned, you 
    always lose when it comes time to sell. I've been down this
    road myself a few times. Each time I lost money on the deal. 
    I wouldn't suggest you build a guitar from parts unless you
    just can't find what you want in a stock instrument, and you
    plan to keep it forever.   
    
	Mark	
    
3038.6USCTR1::blasta.mro.dec.com::pelkeyLife aint for the SqueamishMon Feb 13 1995 14:4414
marks right...  you'd be throwing the money into a guitar
that you'd never be able to re-coup, and even if you didn't
want to sell it, you'd be better off putting the dough into
a strat you'd be happy with instead of a major reconstruction..


 
If it were me,, I'd take the $500, and the Jap-o-strat, and 
see what the cash, and a a trade-in would allow,,,

then again, if it were a 59, or 60, that needed some work, the
answer would be most certainly different...

/r
3038.7Decisions, Decisions...POLAR::KFICZEREWed Feb 15 1995 09:0820
    	I think thats good advice guys. I'm just a little sentaMENTAL
    	I guess, it being my first 'real' guitar and all. I would really
    	like to hold on to it but, I am no fool when taking re-sale
    	into consideration. Speaking of which, I was told by reputable
    	dealers up this way, that the early 80's Jap Reissues DO have a
    	pretty decent resale, up to $500 with the tweed case. I was
    	offered $350 for mine and was told that these models are actually
    	in demand because of their excellent quality,and also the fact 
    	that Fender USA was putting out garbage in the early 80's.[ no
    	offense to early 80's Strat owners ].
    	Another reason I've been weighing this out so much is that it
    	has already been hacked into ( pick-up and switch replaced ) so 
    	I don't feel guilty about modifing it more. If I were to buy 
    	another Strat, that was stock, I wouldn't boe able to hack it up,
    	it's like blasphemy or something. Oh well, I'm not in an extreme
    	rush, I guess I'll take a little more time to think it over....
    
    	thanx,	
    	-kev
    
3038.8MSBCS::EVANSWed Feb 15 1995 10:315
Then keep the sentimental guitar and buy a new Strat.  $500 will buy you
a nice used instrument and then you can have both. 

Jim

3038.9Sunburst Ultra PlusPOLAR::KFICZEREThu Feb 16 1995 05:1512
    	Just so happens I do have a new Strat...an Ultra Plus to be 
    	exact, and I love it! The Mod's to my Jap-o were something
    	I've been thinking of for quite a while. The 3 Texas specials
    	would be really cool, and there's no way I'd find that in
    	in a stock strat...other than the $1200+ SRV with the tree
    	trunk neck (no dis intended). I think the mod's to the Jap
    	would turn my mantel piece into a well used second axe, not 
    	to mention a very cool and different tone (can I use that word?)
    	I'm still losing sleep over this....
    
    	-kev