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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2983.0. "Looking for phone number and/or info" by GAAS::GATULIS (Frank Gatulis 293-5783) Tue Sep 27 1994 11:41

I'm looking for a phone number for Jackson (no, not Michael).  My son has a 
Jackson strat style guitar and the whammy bar snapped right at the bend. 
Quite surprising to me. Don't know if this is a local music store item or 
have to order it through the manufacturer.  This bar is the "snap in" as
opposed to the "screw in" style bar.

I actually spent quit a while searching this conference before writing this
note.  I "thought" there used to be an entry somewhere which had a large 
vendor list in it.  I can't seem to locate it. Am I dreaming or can someone 
point me to such a list.

Thanks
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2983.1He fixed mine...KDX200::COOPERRevolution calling!Tue Sep 27 1994 12:454
    You need the famous "Greg House Jackson Whammy Bar Upgrade"
    
    Greg, fix this guy up, will ya?
    :-)
2983.2Been there, did it, done it...GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Tue Sep 27 1994 13:3541
    Yeah, those things are flimsy!  I broke three of 'em off mine before I
    finally replaced the bar with a heavy duty Schaller unit from
    Stewart-MacDonalds.  I thought I'd written up the procedure somewhere
    in this conference, you might check for a Charvel topic.
    
    Anyway, I got the replacement push-in Jackson bars from my local
    Charvel/Jackson dealer, but I don't know if you can get them anymore
    since Jackson gave up on that trem design and is using someone else's
    in their newer instruments (Schaller, maybe?  Floyd?  I can't
    remember).
    
    The Schaller assembly costs about $10 and will last forever.  It's
    designed for the original Floyd style trem baseplate though, so it's
    not a direct screw-in replacement for the Jackson, which has a thicker
    soft aluminum baseplate.  You have to screw out the factory Jackson
    trem arm socket, then drill/reem out the hole to make room for the
    Schaller replacement.  You really only have to take just the threads
    out of the inside of the hole, no more.  Then the Schaller socket bolts
    in there solid.  
    
    The Schaller uses a solid arm which has a threaded keeper that stays
    with the bar, so it's better then both screw-in and snap in bars.  The
    keeper both holds the bar in the socket and sets the tension on the
    bar, so you don't need any of those pesky o-ring grommet things around
    the bar to keep it in place.  You can easily set the tension on it (by
    how much you tighten the keeper) so that the bar will spin easily, or
    stay in one precise position.  A LOT nicer then the stock arm & socket
    arrangement.
    
    Be aware, however, that it will change the position of the arm from
    where the stock one is.  It sits up a little higher and the arm's a
    little shorter.  I personally found I liked this position *MUCH* better
    then the stock arm position, it put the arm right under my palm and the
    shorter arm gave the trem a little more range before it hit the body.
    
    If you don't feel up to doing the mod, I can do it for you (for a
    modest fee).  I've done several of them.  Only problem is that I live
    in Colorado, so you'd have to send me the guitar, or at least the trem
    block part. 
    
    Greg
2983.3Thanks for the quick responseGAAS::GATULISFrank Gatulis 293-5783Tue Sep 27 1994 13:589
Greg,

Good info.  In fact my son (who is a away at school) just sent me an 
e-mail message and told me he found a replacement bar for $22 at a local 
Jackson dealer here in MA.  If it breaks again, I'll take your lead and
go the Schaller route. Mods ar no problem for me, sounds like a picec-o-cake.

Thanks again.
Frank
2983.4GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Tue Sep 27 1994 18:0515
    $22 for a trem arm?  That's ridiculous.  As I said, the Schaller arm
    includes the socket and is about 100 times stronger then that pot-metal
    Jackson junk and it only cost like $10 or $11.  Half the price, many
    times the strength.
    
    And yeah, it's an easy mod, go for it.  I broke 3 of those cheezy
    Jackson arms and went through about 2 dozen of those tension grommet
    things in about the first year and a half I had the thing, the Schaller
    one worked perfectly for 3 years after I installed it (until I traded
    the guitar) and it never needed anything at all.  Like I said, it felt
    better to me too!  I was getting the Jackson arms free from my dealer,
    but I considered the $10 for the Schaller to be the best $10 I ever
    spent on that guitar.
    
    Greg