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2902.1 | | MANTHN::EDD | I live in a suitcase... | Wed Mar 09 1994 13:04 | 6 |
| I'd suspect most of those pins (Prolly all but 2) control the rotor
speeds. Controlling those from the Ensoniq will be a challenge, but
I'll bet someone can invent a CC to CV converter to allow control
from, say, the mod wheel...
Edd
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2902.2 | | SAHQ::ROSENKRANZ | Go ask Alice.... | Wed Mar 09 1994 13:09 | 5 |
| Maybe Danny Gatton will share the design of his "Magic Dingus Box" with
you. But be prepared to bolt a big ugly sheetmetal box onto your
guitar.
:+) jim
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2902.3 | | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Wed Mar 09 1994 13:27 | 4 |
| The 9-pin connector is (I think) the current interconnect for Leslies. I
know the new products (both Hammond and Leslie) use them. Leslie should
be able to provide the info. If I can locate the address/phone for
Leslie tonight, I'll post it here.
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2902.4 | | MANTHN::EDD | I'd never normally go bowling... | Wed Mar 09 1994 13:34 | 10 |
| (Insert sound of long dormant synapses firing)
...I seem to remember (Don?) Leslie had quite a little rivalry running
with Hammond, often resulting in Hammond changing the interconnect so
Leslie's speakers wouldn't pin up right. Of course, a little reverse
engineering would settle the score, so the game would start over.
Or did this happen far too early to be of any consequence today???
Edd
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2902.5 | | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu Mar 10 1994 06:59 | 12 |
| Sorry, but I just checked and the current Hammond/Leslie interconnect
uses an 11 pin connector. I guess I've never heard of a 9 pin connector.
Everything in my experience has been 6 pin.
According to a 1991 issue of Keyboard magazine, Leslies are currently
made by
Suzuki Musical Instrument Manufacturing USA, Inc.
733 Annoreno
Addison, IL 60101
phone 708.543.0277
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2902.6 | Couple Of Pointers | TECRUS::ROST | Clueless and slightly slack | Thu Mar 10 1994 07:23 | 13 |
| If it's an old wooden Leslie with the tube amp, the Aspen Pittman book has
schematics which should explain what the connector is for...
If it's one of those oddball Leslie "combo" rigs (825, 900, 925, etc.)
then the connector goes to a preamp pedal, which may be near
impossible to find.
There's a company specializing in refurbishing/selling/renting Hammonds
and Leslies based in CT (Goff?) and they advertise in Keyboard's
classified. You could contact them and maybe get some help.
Brian
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2902.7 | external floor preamp | PCOJCT::RYAN | | Thu Mar 10 1994 13:11 | 38 |
| Well, it's been awhile...and I am a keyboard player, poking around in
the guitar area but....
In my younger days, I owned several different models of Leslie
speakers...Since I couldn't afford the Hammond to go with them I user
then with various combo/compact organs...(wish I had that old FARFISA
or VOX organ now...worth some good bucks...) anyway, these organs
didn't have the built-in Leslie connectors found on the big hammonds so
I used an external Leslie pre-amp. This was a small floor box with
standard 1/4 " inputs, a level control and a foot switch for
controlling rotor speed. This box also provided the AC for the motors
since the Leslie had no power cable of it's own.. These preamps were
very common and readily available, still are as a matter of fact.
If you pick up a copy of keyboard mag, check out the ads in the back,
several companies offering Leslie parts, etc. etc. these guys should be
able to set you up with the pre-amp.. I'd anticipate about $150, most
likely rebuilt at this point.
Now, 9 vs 11 pins....I think.....the original tube amp powered leslies
used the 9 pin connectors. Simple signal, power and rotor speed.
Eventually Leslie realized that those 40 watt amps were not cutting it
against the Marshalls that everyone else was using...so they marketed a
family of solid state amps, some even came tolex covered (hey, it's not
a leslie if it's not a big wood cabinet)...I believe the 11 pin cable
was used for the solid state amps...Still had the same external preamp
set-up, but some added features like the ability to completely stop
the rotors (not on the old ones) and ( I think) have them spin up and
down independantly of each other..that would account for the extra
leads...Call thos guys in keyboard, they can get you go'in...
Anyway, that's how I remember it...hope this helps
PS: yes, we ran guitars and even vocal mikes thru that preamp with no
problem...made some interesting noise.
Regards,
Gary; I'll slink back to COMMUSIC now!
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2902.8 | 6 pin versus 9 pin versus 11 pin | CFSCTC::TERRY::REILLY | Hammond Beans, Now We're Smokin'! | Thu Mar 10 1994 13:44 | 11 |
| The old tube Leslies, like the model 147 and 122 used 6 pin connectors that
were keyway-less. They were pins of differing sizes which could only be
connected one way. The keyed connectors were used in the black, solid
state Leslies, like the 900 and were intended to be connected via the
chrome box pre-amps to an audio and power source. I believe the latter were
11 pin. Personally, I've never heard of a nine pin configuration.
All of my experience has involved using the Leslie schematics (which are usually
glued to the side of the amp) and a meter to buzz out the circuit. I've
never had much luck finding a pre-built cross connection type of box.
/Terry (The Non-Minimalist) ;-)
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2902.9 | | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu Mar 10 1994 14:05 | 15 |
| > Now, 9 vs 11 pins....I think.....the original tube amp powered leslies
> used the 9 pin connectors.
Nope. All the 122, 145, 147 models have a 6 pin connector.
2 AC power
1 signal
1 rotor speed
1 gnd
1 N/C (unused)
I just rebuilt a model 122 using part from a 147. I'm not familiar with
the 600 and 900 models, nor the current 300 series that use the 11 pin.
--Ron
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2902.10 | 6pin?/9pin? Hendrix was playing!! | PCOJCT::RYAN | | Thu Mar 10 1994 15:07 | 4 |
| re:-1 Hey...6 pin??? 9 pin?? after all it was the sixties, if you get
my meaning......
Jimi hendrix....Vanilla Fudge......
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2902.11 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Thu Mar 10 1994 15:25 | 1 |
| I don't mind...
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2902.12 | | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Thu Mar 10 1994 18:29 | 2 |
| Yeah, it was the 60s. If hadn't just worked on this again, I probably
wouldn't rememer very well either. My mind's kind of a haze...
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2902.13 | no money down | TPSYS::RUDNICK | | Fri Mar 11 1994 09:21 | 5 |
| The outcome of the story is that my buddy will NOT be getting the
Leslie Cab with 9-pin connector. Apparently he called Leslie,
told them the situation and they said stay away from the cab.
ben.
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2902.14 | | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Fri Mar 11 1994 11:41 | 5 |
| ben, is he still in the market for a leslie? If so I recommend an old
145 or checking out the newer 302, probably the most roadable speaker
Leslie's ever made.
--Ron
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2902.15 | i'll let him know! | TPSYS::RUDNICK | | Wed Mar 16 1994 10:56 | 10 |
| hey ron,
my friend is always in the market for something! at this point he'll
probably try and talk his wife into one of the more portable hammond
keyboards and THEN somehow bring the leslie home!
thanks for the input, i'll pass it on.
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