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2873.1 | | KDX200::COOPER | There's a moon in the sky! | Mon Jan 10 1994 08:21 | 6 |
| Buy yourself a Vox AC30 TB...
I don't think you need/want an effects processors, as Brain May
apparently uses(d) (several) AC30's on 11.
jc
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2873.2 | AC30s | NACAD::HERTZBERG | History: Love it or Leave it! | Mon Jan 10 1994 08:27 | 1 |
| Yup... you'll need a stack of four.
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2873.3 | | HEART::MACHIN | | Mon Jan 10 1994 09:20 | 5 |
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Brian May's advice in GP a month or so ago was to buy yourself a
RockMan. Though he didn't say you'd end up sounding like he does.
Richard.
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2873.4 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Mon Jan 10 1994 09:50 | 4 |
| Brian was using 6 ac30's and ghod knows what in his rack when I saw him with
G&R.
dbii
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2873.5 | | MANTHN::EDD | You're soaking in it... | Mon Jan 10 1994 10:01 | 3 |
| Didn't he used to use some coin as a pick?
Edd
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2873.6 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Often imitated, but never duplicated | Mon Jan 10 1994 10:11 | 9 |
| Brian's always used a lot of delay effects, depending on which exact
sound you're looking for, you'll probably want one.
I've heard a lot of people play through AC30s and none of 'em sounded
like Brian. I've always been convinced that the player is the biggest
part of a person's sound. I bet he'd sound about the same playing
through a Marshall or pretty much any other amp.
Greg
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2873.7 | read this somewhere | EZ2GET::STEWART | always took candy from strangers | Mon Jan 10 1994 10:44 | 8 |
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Brian built his own guitar -- it only looks like a solid body. There
are apparently several resonant chambers within the body. He probably
needs multiple AC-30s to get the SPL needed to start those chambers
ringing...
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2873.8 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Mon Jan 10 1994 11:38 | 3 |
| Coin?? Naw the guy the the mexican peso is Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top)
dbii
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2873.9 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Often imitated, but never duplicated | Mon Jan 10 1994 11:44 | 4 |
| Pretty sure Brian also uses a coin. I don't remember the exact coin,
except that it's a UK coin that's no longer minted or used (for money).
gh
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2873.10 | Useless trivia alert | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | I made life easy just by laughing | Mon Jan 10 1994 11:50 | 5 |
| .... and Chris Squire uses a British "pence" piece as his plectrum of
choice (on the bass, of course). Not that that has anything to do with
Brian May or his guitar sound. :-)
-- Sam
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2873.11 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Mon Jan 10 1994 12:03 | 18 |
| From what I know of Brian's setup:
Guitar -- homemade, built by father from wood in their home. Guitar
has hand-wound pickups
Amps -- 4-6 Vox AC30 amps
FX -- Brian almost always uses a delay of sorts. He used to use those
old, tune ECHOPLEX things, not sure what his current
choice of delay is?! Brian also uses a homemade distorion
box.
Brian noted once that probably 80% of his sound comes from the fact
that he uses a custom wiring setup of the single coil pickups on his
guitar. They are like wired out of phase or something. In fact, if
you remember when Dimarzio was marketing the BRIAN MAY pickups, you
had to buy two of them together (not sold ind.).
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2873.12 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Mon Jan 10 1994 12:13 | 5 |
| Brian's effects have got to be digital these days, he did an extended and
fairly boring pseudo-pyrotechnic display of every effect know to man during
the two shows I saw last year, the chromatic harmonizers were working overtime.
dbii
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2873.13 | Just like the real thing (?) | TROFS::C_CONNOLLY | | Mon Jan 10 1994 12:31 | 8 |
| I believe they have started to make a "Brian May" model guitar (not
sure which company, but I have heard about it, and seen one in person
in a music store, and also in a British guitar mag I got for
Christmas; it might be Guild). Supposedly it has the 'weird' pickup
wiring and 'resonant chambers' in the body, just like Mr. May's.
Cal C.
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2873.14 | | TECRUS::ROST | If you don't C#, you might Bb | Mon Jan 10 1994 12:33 | 23 |
| Just some additional poofter:
1. Guild has reissued their Brian May signature model which is close to
what Brian's original guitar is like. Not knowing what "real" guitars
were wired like, supposedly Brian hooked up the pickups in an unusual
manner which helps account for part of the sound.
2. I forget the exact coin he uses, but I did read that he had some new
ones made up with his head on the coin instead of the Queen's
(sacrilege!)
3. I should think one AC-30 would be enough. May I suggest that the
usual stage setup for a big rock tour is usually designed for high
volume and coverage over a wide area, rather than needing all that
stuff just to get the sound.
4. Surprised nobody mentioned that he overdubs many of his parts in
"choirs" of guitars. You can approach the effect live with delays and
harmonizers, but the sound on records is a product of studio wizardry.
5. As mentioned before, most of the sound *is* in his fingers.
Brian May-not
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2873.15 | An essentual part of his sound | GOES11::HOUSE | Often imitated, but never duplicated | Mon Jan 10 1994 12:40 | 1 |
| ...not to mention that he's got great hair.
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2873.16 | | NACAD::HERTZBERG | History: Love it or Leave it! | Mon Jan 10 1994 12:46 | 7 |
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>>3. I should think one AC-30 would be enough. May I suggest...
Sure. The reason he uses 4-6 is so that at least one is still working
at the end of the show.
:^D
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2873.17 | | QRYCHE::STARR | Human wheels spin round and round | Mon Jan 10 1994 13:08 | 11 |
| >3. I should think one AC-30 would be enough. May I suggest...
Well, I think he uses a different one for each delay/effects setup, so that
would mean at least 3 in use at some points of the show.
BTW, I believe the guitarist in Killer Queen (a Worcester-based cover band)
uses a Les Paul and a Boss (ME-6?) effects processor to get his Brian May
sound (and does an awesome job of it!). If I think of it sometime, I'll
ask him if he wouldn't mind revealing his patches for us....
alan
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2873.18 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:01 | 2 |
| I gotta say, I think Killer Queen SUCKS!! Talk about sacrelig...
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2873.19 | | QRYCHE::STARR | Human wheels spin round and round | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:21 | 7 |
| > I gotta say, I think Killer Queen SUCKS!! Talk about sacrelig...
I haven't seen them live yet, so I can't really say anything. I will say that
the guitar tones I hear coming from their practice space sound pretty close
to Brian May's tone, at least enough to be of interest to people here...
alan
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2873.20 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:28 | 6 |
| -1
I must say, I have only heard them at that practice space as well. I
donno, the guitar player isn't too bad (esp. on tunes like Keep
Yourself Alive), but on some tunes, like Stone Cold Crazy, the whole
band just really misses the mark imho.
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2873.21 | | RDGENG::NR750::WATSONR | | Tue Jan 11 1994 03:47 | 14 |
| Re. -a few
Brian uses a sixpence as a plectrum - or used to, bearing in mind that
the ones he had minted with his head on them aren't *really* sixpences.
Also, regarding the '93 Guild Brian May, it's not a re-issue, it's a
completely new model. The original 1984 issue (all 316 of them) was really
only a copy. The '93 model is a replica with lots of custom made bits
on it. I had a go with one on Saturday and very nice it was too (if
somewhat light after my Les Paul :-)) and, by and large, they're all
sold before they even reach the UK - there's only 1000 to go round.
Ross
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2873.22 | | PAVONE::TURNER | | Tue Jan 11 1994 04:33 | 15 |
| I've also heard that Brian May uses an old UK sixpence as a plectrum. I
hardly think it's the reason for his distintive sound, though!
Sixpences are certainly smaller than your average pick - about half an
inch in diameter. They went out of circulation about 10-12 years ago,
if memory serves. There were two to the shilling and twenty shillings
to the pound (all thoroughly useless trivia!).
If you look at the latest edition of Ralph Denyer's "The Guitar
Handbook", there's a photo of May playing through about 15 Vox AC30s!
Possibly, it was taken at the Freddie Mercury benefit gig at Wembley
Stadium, but there is an explanation as to why he uses so many
(something about delayed signals if I remember rightly).
Dom
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2873.23 | | MANTHN::EDD | Leggo my ego... | Tue Jan 11 1994 06:00 | 8 |
| > something about delayed signals...
I guess!
He probably gets a pretty good delay just from the fact that #15 is
so far away...
Edd
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2873.24 | | BRAT::PAGE | | Tue Jan 11 1994 07:11 | 8 |
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If you're close to Daddy's Junky Music in Nashua, NH, talk to
Matt Boynton who is one of the managers there... He owns one of the
new Guild Brian May guitars. He loves it.
Brad
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2873.25 | | QRYCHE::STARR | Human wheels spin round and round | Tue Jan 11 1994 08:49 | 4 |
| One of the original Brian May Guild guitars is for sale in the Want Ads,
the guy is asking $1200....
alan
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2873.26 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Tue Jan 11 1994 10:45 | 4 |
| For what it's worth Brian had 2 of those guitars in concert. I dunno if they
were guilds or his own homemade ones.
dbii
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2873.27 | Pure British Tone! | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Tue Jan 11 1994 21:55 | 7 |
| I'd have to agree that the trick to Brian's sound is in his fingers,
but there is definately something to be said about the AC30's. No
other amp sounds like an AC30. I'd love to check out a Matchless
amp (top-of-the-line AC30 clone).
Mark
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2873.28 | That Sixpence | BASLG1::NIEMIRA | | Fri Jan 14 1994 01:38 | 18 |
| About ten years or more ago Brian was on a Tommy Vance show (not Friday
Rock show but I can't remember which it was). He said he used the
old sixpence because it was the only small coin that had a grooved edge
he could scrape the strings with. I remember him saying that he used a
real silver one, not a later mixed metal one (hows that for trivia !).
I tried one myself but the sixpence is a suprisingly thick coin and
found it useless.
However, some years later the British 5p was reduced in size and lo!
a thickish - but not too thick, small metal pick with serated edge.
I've used one almost since they were minted on electric stuff and its
great.
Back to May's sound. Its worth remembering he sometimes uses interval/chord
combinations closly jammed with the single notes to create a
'harmonic/choral' effect that is a sound combination which (in my
opinion) far outways whatever the kit is. A great example of this is
the part on We Will Rock You.
Tony.
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2873.29 | Sales Flash ... | GOOROO::DCLARK | concurrent reverse engineering | Fri Jan 14 1994 07:54 | 12 |
| Guild is now offering "Brian May" model picks. 2 models are
available; the 'Classic' (made of sterling silver) and the
'ScrapeMeister' (made of mixed metal). The picks are authentic
reproductions of the famous grooved-edge British Sixpence
coins which are a key part of the Brian May sound. Each
pick is stamped with a reproduction of Brian May's signature.
The 'Classic' sells for $39.95 (3 for $99.95), and the
ScrapeMeister sells for $34.95 (3 for $89.95).
:-)
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2873.30 | Brian May - what have you started? | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Jan 14 1994 08:03 | 21 |
| re: .29
>Guild is now offering "Brian May" model picks. 2 models are
>available; the 'Classic' (made of sterling silver) and the
>'ScrapeMeister' (made of mixed metal). The picks are authentic
>reproductions of the famous grooved-edge British Sixpence
>coins which are a key part of the Brian May sound. Each
>pick is stamped with a reproduction of Brian May's signature.
>The 'Classic' sells for $39.95 (3 for $99.95), and the
>ScrapeMeister sells for $34.95 (3 for $89.95).
Which, I hardly need to add, is NOT the dollar conversion value of the
traditional British sixpence ;-)
I'll have to see if I've kept a few old ones - they could be my
fortune:
"Three genuine British sixpences. Will trade for a 1962 Les Paul or
equivalent. Serious offers only". ;-) ;-)
Dom
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2873.31 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Like a cat caught in a vacuum | Fri Jan 14 1994 08:28 | 3 |
| re: sixpense prices
OUch!!!
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2873.32 | Cor blimey guv'nor... | BASLG1::NIEMIRA | | Fri Jan 14 1994 10:16 | 1 |
| Unreal !!! Try an old coins shop. T.
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2873.33 | | GOOROO::DCLARK | concurrent reverse engineering | Fri Jan 14 1994 11:18 | 5 |
| re: last few ...
it's a joke, son! I was just making fun of the outlandishly-priced
Brian May model guitar that Guild put out. I should have been less
subtle, I guess :-)
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2873.34 | | NR750::WATSONR | Are all these your guitars ? | Mon Feb 28 1994 00:21 | 4 |
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Just out of interest really, but anyone know what make of strings
the well-coiffured Mr. May uses ?
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