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2855.1 | DOD Overdrive? | ISLNDS::BELLEFEUILLE | | Tue Nov 16 1993 14:35 | 14 |
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Hi,
I just recently bought a DOD Overdrive Plus box for my son which works
very well. "Grunge" level is very adjustable, and sound quality is
quite good.
DOD boxes are quite inexpensive ('specially used ~ $25 - $30). They
don't seem to get rave reviews from the "gigging" set because they tend
to introduce their own noise at hi volume. I think for home/practice
use they're more than adequate
Rich
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2855.2 | DOD has just what you need | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Will work for '59 Les Paul | Tue Nov 16 1993 14:42 | 3 |
| I've seen several ads recently for a DOD Grunge pedal. It has controls
with names like "Butt" and "Face" (no, I'm not making these up).
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2855.3 | WAaaaaahahahaha!! | GOES11::HOUSE | You sick little monkey! | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:16 | 1 |
| Butt, Face??? I gotta *HAVE* one of these!!
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2855.4 | right under your nose :-) | CSC32::J_KUHN | Jay Kuhn | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:32 | 5 |
| Greg, you already have one.
Just play guitar through your shure vocal master cranked. Same effect,
that is until it blows up. and make sure you get those cheezy column
speakers to get the real effect.
:-)
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2855.5 | For the want of a comma | ZYMRGY::sam | I made life easy just by laughing | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:39 | 9 |
| GH>> Butt, Face??? I gotta *HAVE* one of these!!
JK> Greg, you already have one.
I'm not gonna touch it. :-)
-- Sam
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2855.6 | "welcome to the metal zone" | COMET::LAURICH | | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:45 | 5 |
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The BOSS MT-2 is the most distorted pedal I have ever
played. A new one should cost you about 90$.
Jeffy
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2855.7 | woa! column speaker overload | CSC32::J_KUHN | Jay Kuhn | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:46 | 19 |
| :-)
I'm not either. Now gosh darn it. I was speaking in highly technical
terms about a classic piece of equipment (vocal master), and what
happens? Dirty (grunge) or (flannel) minded people take it the wrong
way. I am sick and tired of the lack of respect the vocal master gets.
Heck, EVERYONE out here in Colorado seems to own one. And (I'm not
kidding) a speaker shop has one for sale here for $900 new. Hey,
everyone one wants 50's guitars and amps, why not have PA technology
at about the same level??? eh???
So there!
:-) :-) *8^)
I think I'm losing it.
Serious (as much as I can be) though, I read in a guitar magazine that
some grunge (flannel, 100% cotton) players run more than one stomp
in series to really get the grunge effect. You may want to try that
also.
j
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2855.8 | | GOES11::HOUSE | You sick little monkey! | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:58 | 4 |
| > -< For the want of a comma >-
I think you got an extra "m" in there...
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2855.9 | mxr dist +,, | DWESEL::PELKEY | Life, It aint for the sqeamish! | Tue Nov 16 1993 20:57 | 4 |
| you really want grunge, get an old MXR Distortion +
dripping grunge...
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2855.10 | good one, Housemeister | FRETZ::HEISER | dweller on the threshold | Wed Nov 17 1993 09:41 | 1 |
| > I think you got an extra "m" in there...
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2855.11 | Happy Grunging!!! | COMET::DURHAM | | Tue Nov 30 1993 16:05 | 17 |
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Try a 100 watt Marshall with a Boss GE-7 EQ.
I currently use this set up and it's about as much grunch or crunch or
grunge as I need. The GE-7 is not a distortion box, but it gives you
an incredible gain boost when you kick it in. This GE-7
is better than any other boxes I've heard. Of course the 100 Watt
Marshall sure wouldn't have anything to do with it.
Give it a try anyway. You can pick up a GE-7 at almost any pawn shop.
Grunge on!!!
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2855.12 | That amp'll do grunge... | GOES11::HOUSE | You sick little monkey! | Tue Nov 30 1993 16:31 | 9 |
| >All kidding aside, he is into all of that shred stuff and his current effects
>loop on his Peavey Classic 50 isn't grundgy enough ( his terminology ).
That's the same amp that Kim Thail from Soundgarden uses (the 4x10
version). I don't know what effects he uses with it, but you don't get
much more "grunge" then Soundgarden. I read that he's into simple
setups, so I wouldn't expect a lot of extra junk along for the ride.
Greg
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2855.13 | | KDX200::COOPER | There's a moon in the sky! | Tue Nov 30 1993 17:13 | 5 |
| Bob V - You may have your boy try Bob Durhams (-.2) idea with his
current rig - GE-7's go used *CHEAP* all the time... I played thru
a PV 4x10 combo, and thought it sounded great!!
jc (bump up the grunge!)
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2855.14 | Rad Grunge Dude | DPDMAI::COXC | Oooh Noooo- Mr. Bill! | Thu May 05 1994 18:01 | 7 |
| I've come across several articles which tout the
"BIG MUFF" peddle. Billy Corgan(Smashing Pumkins) uses one
and listen to their grunge. I've had a SOVTEK, Russian line
of military components made into effects/amps, on back order
for 3 months on their BIG MUFF peddle. May be something there!
BC
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2855.15 | Electro-Harmonix Clone. | KIRKTN::WATSONT | Hocus Pocus | Fri May 06 1994 03:05 | 21 |
| I had a Big Muff up till 3 years ago when it and my EH Electric
Mistress flanger were stolen 8-(
It`s a great pedal with a real smooth distortion,hard to describe
the sound I`ve got/had various Boss/Ibanez distortion/overdrive units
and none of them sound remotely like the Big Muff (IMO).
I doubt if I`d really use it much now,but it might have been handy
for my soon to be built basement studio.Incidentally the old Electro-
Harmonix gear is fetching ludicrous prices in the UK in the so-called
`vintage` market.
The Sovtek is I believe a close,if not exact,replica of the EH
model.BTW I`m not sure if it`s just the circuitry that`s copied or the
whole shooting match.
I`ve seen Sovtek amps advertised here,but never seen one in any
store.If the prices of the pedal is anything to go by ~90 pounds($130),
then I don`t imagine the amps will be cheap either.
Tom.
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2855.16 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | I Got You Babe (Slight Return) | Fri May 06 1994 08:10 | 10 |
| The Sovtek Big Muffski looks nothing like the original Big Muff
physically; it's a deeper, squatter box, finished in Red Army tank
green, with different graphics. The sound is close to the old EH,
but I've heard a few people say they still like their old Muffs
better.
Hey, I recently saw a review comparing 5 different versions of
original EH big Muff's; there's even a hierarchy there!
/rick_still_waiting_for_a_reissue_hogs_foot
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2855.17 | Whoooooossshhhh!!!!! | KURMA::WATSONT | Hocus Pocus | Fri May 06 1994 08:53 | 4 |
| I`d love a quiet Electric Mistress,not like my old one that did a
brilliant Atlantic Ocean impression 8')
Tom.
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2855.18 | | LEDS::BURATI | What the HEY HEY HEY | Fri May 06 1994 10:53 | 2 |
| I was thinking of aquiring a Pro-Co RAT. Anyone have experience with
this beast?
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2855.19 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Sobriety has it's own drawbacks! | Fri May 06 1994 11:05 | 6 |
| a little unsufisticated (sp?), but a helluva lot of fun!
I used one for around a year, great metal tones but found it needed
careful EQ to get the best from it!
Bonzo
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2855.20 | Not bad at all | NACAD::HERTZBERG | History: Love it or Leave it! | Fri May 06 1994 16:41 | 5 |
| I always liked the Turbo Rat I own. You can get a very nice variety of
distortions by varying the amount and the EQ control. A bunch of
distortions were rated a year or two ago in one of the guitar
magazines. They preferred the regular rat to the turbo, and they liked
real old ones even better. Isn't ProCo selling a Vintage Rat now?
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2855.21 | | LEDS::BURATI | What the HEY HEY HEY | Mon May 09 1994 09:30 | 11 |
| > Isn't ProCo selling a Vintage Rat now?
I think they make 3 different RAT models, the RAT (the original), the
RAT II, and the Turbo RAT.
Although my Fender Sidekick 25 is the best distortion box I've ever
played through (I attenuate the preamp out and patch it into the
frontend my my bigger amps), I need to own a real fuzz box. I understand
Beck uses a RAT. Izat true?
--Ron
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2855.22 | Check out a RATT II! | NEST::CURRY | | Mon May 16 1994 08:23 | 9 |
| The last I knew, Beck was using one of these Ratts....
I own the RATT II and after owning several other distortion boxes, this
is the best one that I've heard. (IMHO) It offers a wide variety of
tones and is reasonably priced.
My $.02
Mike
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2855.23 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Mon May 16 1994 11:17 | 5 |
| > My $.02
What a DEAL! Where can I get one for only .02?? Heck, I'd even pay
double that!!
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2855.24 | | LEDS::BURATI | human crumple zone | Fri May 27 1994 11:27 | 10 |
| I picked up a used RAT 2 yesterday. It's not bad. In fact, as a "stomp
box", it's pretty good. It is better than the TS9 Tube Screamer that I
used back in the early 80s. But it doesn't match the (very pleasing)
variations (crunch/growling-overdrive/way-distorted) that I get out of
my Sidekick 25 preamp.
BTW, the unit was "showcase" clean, no evidence that it ever had
anyone's foot near it, in original box with papers, $39.
These are made like Sherman tanks, too.
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2855.25 | | LEDS::BURATI | human crumple zone | Tue May 31 1994 15:35 | 4 |
| Had time to play some with the RAT over the weekend. This is a bitchin
little unit. Set the amp up so that its just beginning to breakup, then
dial up a little drive (dist=9 o'clock, volume=3 o'clock, filter=max)
and whoa baby, it's pretty sweet. I think I'll keep it.
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2855.26 | Rat hole | LEDS::BURATI | human crumple zone | Thu Jun 02 1994 16:42 | 27 |
| More on this RAT thing:
I've found that getting something good out of this unit is certainly not
a given. I tried it straight into my Twin and didn't care for the
result. Also it sounds a *lot* better when you roll the tone off on your
single-coils a bit (50-60%), even with the on-board filter max'd out.
This makes it important to have a tone control on a Strats' bridge PUs.
And the distortion control is very sensitive between 8 and 10 o'clock.
This is the range that I've found most usable. Above 10 o'clock gets
pretty wild. At 8 o'clock there's barely anything happening.
The best results I've found are with the dist control at 9 o'clock
(tweeking it +/- makes a big difference) with it feeding into my
Sidekick 25 preamp with the input level set so that playing soft is
clean and playing hard slightly distorts (i.e. the signal has room to
breath) and the presence control is at 0 (Sidekick 25 has 4 band EQ).
For the record, the Sidekick preamp out drives a Microverb which
provides stereo reverb sends to my plexi 50W Marshall top running an old
white 2-12 Bandmaster cab with stock Oxford speakers and a Twin Reverb
running a pair of JBL D120 in another small 2-12 Bandmaster cab.
The result is somewhere between Billy Gibbon's sound on Antenna and Jeff
Beck's Guitar Shop, which I like just fine but in limited doses.
rjb
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