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| 2802.1 | sound familiar? | NAVY5::SDANDREA | I meant that in the nicest way... | Thu Sep 09 1993 10:48 | 11 |
| another symptom............
Your wife (or significant other) is heard saying:
"Honey, why do you need *another* blah, blah, etc.."(fill in the blank)
or
"Sweetheart, do you rally *need* this thing?"
8^}
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| 2802.2 | talk about a way to screw up the economy! | EZ2GET::STEWART | It's like bobbing for water! | Thu Sep 09 1993 10:54 | 1 |
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| 2802.3 | GTPS | BSS::STPALY::J_KUHN | $rally run away | Thu Sep 09 1993 11:06 | 11 |
| Then there's GuitarToyParanoidSyndrome:
where you are 'researching' something like a guitar
or an effect and you just can't decide what you really want, cause you
know it will be outdated when you buy it, or you will get it home and
pick up this months [insert catalog of your choice] catalog and find
something new that is far cooler, yet is the same price.
OR no matter what guitar you 'decide' on, next month you will want
something different. I don't even have .0000001 % of the toys you guys
do and I suffer from GTS. (it is kind fun though)
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| 2802.4 | sheesh! 8^) | NAVY5::SDANDREA | I meant that in the nicest way... | Thu Sep 09 1993 11:13 | 21 |
| re: -1
kinda like buying a PC....the technology curve is a moving target!
The solution to that is to declare yerself a "simple blues man" (ala
PaT Blair and myself), thereby justifying having an old vintage Les
Paul, a standard Strat, a combo amp and a few FX toys. No need for the
latest and greatest stuff....just get into *playing* instead of the
equipment itself.
I have a friend who has MTS (motorcycle toy syndrom) soooooo bad, he's
thinking of cancelling our camping trip because his hi-tech dirt bike
is not repaired and he'll have to ride his older bike. Sheeesh dude!
This is about riding and having fun, not about having the latest toys!
I told him he could ride my bike and I'd ride his......
When I was 'younger', I was guilty of it....
sigh........
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| 2802.5 | A checking account is a terrible thing to waste | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Thu Sep 09 1993 11:21 | 7 |
| See note 2643.22
No one in this conference has GTS worse than me. If anyone has any
doubts about this, just ask Dave Hickernill, or mozy on over to note
333.
Mark (with 22 guitars and counting).
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| 2802.6 | Haven't done it... thought about it >:^) | ADROID::foster | Sick of hearing what sux | Thu Sep 09 1993 12:01 | 12 |
| > Mark (with 22 guitars and counting).
Wow!! I wanna go to your house after school 8^)
I want my Marshall !! (and I'm not playing guitar all that often)
Another GTS: Hiding the stuff so your wife doesn't know you bought
anything, faking a car-repair bill to account for the
outgoing cash 8^)
Droid
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| 2802.7 | Living the dream | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Victim of hype abuse. | Thu Sep 09 1993 12:20 | 33 |
| re: .0
>Who knows, maybe we could get together a support group & go on Geraldo Rivera.
Or... maybe we could get together some venture capital and *buy* a
Rivera. %^)
re: .5
> just ask Dave Hickernill
That's OK, with a name like mine, I'm used to creative spelling. %^)
Mark's right, I visited his (what do you call it?) guitar
room/library/shop/studio/showcase. Without going into details, Mark
has a this-to-die-for and a that-to-die-for and an
omigod-whats-that-over-there, each more luscious than the next. Not
high end custom stuff, you understand, just Real Nice Stuff; nice
examples of the realistic equipment you actually think you may be
able to own some day, all shined up, all there in one room, all Mark's.
Sigh.
After that visit, I needed a cigarette and a towel. %^)
re: .6
>Wow!! I wanna go to your house after school 8^)
No, you don't. Do yerself a favor. Go to flea markets instead, I
guess.
Dave
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| 2802.8 | another | FRETZ::HEISER | notes from a lost civilization | Thu Sep 09 1993 12:25 | 2 |
| "Why buy that thing when you know you'll get tired of it and need a
better one next year?"
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| 2802.9 | slingin' the bull..... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | I meant that in the nicest way... | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:12 | 12 |
| >"Why buy that thing when you know you'll get tired of it and need a
> better one next year?"
How 'bout all the b*llsh*t answers we come up with for these hard
questions?
Like: "honey, it's gonna have great resale value, it's a classic
vintage collector's item!"
etc., ect.....
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| 2802.11 | | JARETH::KMCDONOUGH | SET KIDS/NOSICK | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:21 | 10 |
|
Ever say these words?.....
"I didn't buy it to keep it. I'm gonna fix it up and put it up for
sale."
Kevin
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| 2802.12 | Needs vs. wants | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:51 | 37 |
| 'looks like this topic is a bit hotter'n I expected.
You know you're having a terminal GTS attack whenever you buy
something:
A.) beacuse it's a bargain.
B.) so you can sell it for more.
C.) so you can fix it up & sell it for more.
D.) so you can keep it 'til it's worth more.
E.) because it's cheaper than another one that you saw for sale.
F.) so you can use it on one recording/gig & then sell it.
G.) because someone else told you any of the above.
Spouses & significant others are just too easy to maneuver around to be
considered reliable in controlling GTS attacks. (e.g. My wife plays
guitar & keyboadrs as well as writing & singing songs, so we have way
too many excuses in common.)
I read an ad to her the other day from the Want Advertiser, & she
asked: "... but do we really *need* one of those ? ..."
I answered: "You'll notice I'm reading the *Want* Advertiser & not the
*Need* Advertiser."
I think separating wants & needs is key to controlling this wild GTS
beast. There could at least be a sliding scale from need to want:
Desparately need one
Need one so as to avoid major inconvenience
Probably should have one
Might need it someday
Think it could be useful
Fun to have one
Might be cool to have one
WE WANT THE WORLD & WE WANT IT NOW !
Paul
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| 2802.13 | I just buy it, the heck wth the wife... | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:55 | 7 |
| Buy a Rivera?
hell that's where it started for me...now I'm a certified midi rack puke...
you may wish to pass on the Rivera...
dbii
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| 2802.14 | | DABEAN::REAUME | currently non-retro | Thu Sep 09 1993 14:44 | 10 |
| Well it's like this:
I need this rig for big outdoor gigs, this rig for medium sized
clubs, but they are both too heavy to cart to practice, and I need
a "back up" amp anyway. Of course a Les Paul CAN'T sound like a Strat
and vice-versa, so I need one of each.
BTW - GTS alarm in topic 2102! (me again).
-B{}{}M-
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| 2802.15 | My next film | GOES11::HOUSE | I walk 47 miles of barbed wire | Thu Sep 09 1993 15:58 | 1 |
| "Honey, I shrunk the bank balance"
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| 2802.16 | | CHEFS::BRIGGSR | Four Flat Tyres on a Muddy Road | Fri Sep 10 1993 03:53 | 23 |
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And of course pricing of these toys is deliberately set so that those
suffering from GTS (or any other toy syndrome) can just about afford
them. Here in the UK most non-professional toys are in the �200-300
price bracket. The thing is so are most 'toys' in at least the
following....
- Pedal Biking
- Kites. Yes, �250 for a kite!! Something about carbon fibre rods.
- Badminton. Ditto incredulity at that sort of price for a badminton
racket!
- Photography
and virtually any other hobby you care to name. What is clear is Joe
Public can not afford to suffer from two toy syndromes.
Richard
Reading, UK
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| 2802.17 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Fri Sep 10 1993 07:42 | 5 |
| I suffer from two, guitar/studio and flyfishing...I've got these boxes full
of fur and feathers that cost me a morgage payment as well as fly rods that
cost as much as a low end fender...sigh...
dbii
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| 2802.18 | | BLASTA::Pelkey | | Fri Sep 10 1993 08:37 | 31 |
| Cripes, I don't know how you boys manage....
I bought my last amp in 1979, maybe 80.... It's still making
sounds I sort of like... So, I won't replace it in the near future...
I bought my Ibanex (MC400) in 1979, had a Kahler installed in 85 or
so...
About 4 years ago, I finally picked up another Strat, (first one was
bought brand new in 71 for what,, $280 maybe..
Talk about price hike shock!)
My acoustic is a 1978 Yari,,,,, use the math, she's 15! Last
thing that had was a Fishman Natrual and a GE7 EQ...
I've got a small PA system,,, a pair of Gollehorns, (early 80s
circa) and get this,,, A MONSTROUS 6 chanell Peavy mixer,,, remember
the ones with the screw in legs, and the knobs the size of Volkswagon
tires ???
A few rack things,,, the biggest expenditure of all is the midi guitar,
but a band I was in bought it, and I simply bought out interest
slowly till I owned it.. (I probably still owe someone a few bucks for
it now that I think of it...)
It all works, it all sounds alright (I guess,,, least that's what
jam-mates tell me...)
I'd love to have a bad case of GTS, but it aint gonna happen...
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| 2802.19 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Fri Sep 10 1993 08:43 | 8 |
|
I've been fighting a very strong desire for a Roland GR-1 and
a Digitech Vocalist. This would be 2K worth of GTS.
I dream of what this would sound like thru my stereo PA...
Kids never cross my mind.
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| 2802.20 | it never endz..... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | I meant that in the nicest way... | Fri Sep 10 1993 09:01 | 11 |
| I have MTS (motorcycle toy syndrom) too. I'm into off road
motorcycling and still compete. I have my Dennis Kirk catalog right
next to my Musician's Friend catalog. There are easily as many toize
and accessories for dirt bikes as there are for guitars. I have 2
bikes and my step son is now addicted and is my favorite riding
partner. My wife is pretty good about it as her former husband was
addicted to sports cars. My diseases cost soooooo much less in comparison!
He who dies with the most toys, wins!
8^}
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| 2802.21 | | KDX200::COOPER | Testing my new personal name | Fri Sep 10 1993 09:06 | 35 |
| Sheesh. You guys dont' have %TS....
I've got:
- GTS (Just GOTTA have a new boogie power amp, and another pair of
4x12's!!)
- STS (Studio Toy Syndrome - Greg can attest to the worthiness of this)
- MTS (Mustang Toy Syndrome - Restoring ole mustangs ain't cheap)
- MCTS (Street bike toy syndrome - Currently riding an Yammie crotch
rocket)
- FPTS (Fisher Price Toy Syndrome - The daughter NEEDS this stuff!)
So here's how I handle some of these. You GOTTA have three lists:
The "I NEED", "I WANT", and "I'D LIKE TO HAVE".
Things that go on the "I NEED" list might be seat belts for the
mustang... or a new helmet - Safety first!
Things that might go on the "I WANT" list might be some new side
fairings for the street bike (I can make money on that one), or a
new headliner and carpeting for the stang, or even patch bays and
cabling trays for the studio.
Things that might go on the I'd like to have list might be a boogie
power amp anna pair of new 4x12's, a lacquer paint job for the mustang
and Yoshimura pipe for the street bike. :-)
...And don't EVEN get me started on dirtbikes!
jc
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| 2802.22 | | MANTHN::EDD | Look out fellas, it's shredding time... | Fri Sep 10 1993 09:15 | 13 |
| My name is Edd, and I'm a MIDIholic.
Actually, a recovering MIDIholic, not having bought a new piece of
hardware for a couple years.
GTS, a related syndrome, rarely effects me, but there are those nights
when I wake up in a cold sweat and rush to the studio to verify that
the white fretless P-bass with the gold hardware and Hartke were really
just a dream...
I can control it. Really. I can.
Edd
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| 2802.23 | Hi, my name is Dave... | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Victim of hype abuse. | Fri Sep 10 1993 09:51 | 19 |
| I thought I was immune. I used to laugh at you all and your
"syndrome". I was happy living in the past, as my bass and amp
became vintage along with me.
Then I signed up for one of those damn DECjam bands and got to
practice through a more modern amp. Omigod, whatta difference. And it
wasn't anything special, just a 200-watt Peavey with a good EQ. Now I
can't stand the sight of the old amp. IwantIwantIwant. It's pretty
bad when you lust after an amp that's "only" a 15-year old design.
I'm even looking suspiciously at the old axe. Hmmm... wonder what
something else sounds and plays like. Maybe there is something to this
syndrome after all. But right now I tell myself I'll just replace the
bass amp, and that'll be it. Can I call it BATS?
Sigh.
Dave
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| 2802.24 | Affected by effects | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Fri Sep 10 1993 10:02 | 31 |
| RE .22 EDD:
"GTS ... rarely *effects* me" ????
Note the subliminal use of the incorrect spelling !
I'd say you're hooked. Pass the Methadone.
RE a few back:
I think JC is on to something. What is needed is a plan & enough
discipline to stick to it.
RE a few more back:
I remember those Peavey mixers with the HUGE knobs. I have the next
size down with the "normal" size knobs & soft case. Easy to carry & set
up for small gigs, built in spring reverb, 6 channels, 2 VU meters, for sale
$125/bo.
RE a few more back, target prices of things:
You'll also notice how the technology is moving such that even if you
wait 'til you can afford that special toy (price reductions or used
market) when you go to buy it, it's just not all that special any more,
so you still want a more special one which is only available in the
"you only get to buy one of these" price range.
Paul
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| 2802.25 | Dan Eaton Taught Me Everything I Know | TECRUS::ROST | Going to hell in your heavenly arms | Fri Sep 10 1993 10:13 | 17 |
| Re: .24
The fast advance of technology is good for me. Over the past two years
I've acquired a ton of stuff used at prices well below what they would
have cost new. And they work fine.
OK, my multi-FX box can't do eight effects at once, I couldn't care
less. It does one at a time just as well as the newest ones. An old
amp may not have the latest distortion bells and whistles but when it's
fully functional for $20 who's to complain? Hey, it has a tremelo so
now I don't have to buy that $500 Peavey tremelo unit.
Heck, I saved over $1000 on a Steinberger bass because the last owner
had moved over to playing a five string bass and said he couldn't deal
with going back to only four strings! Sheesh...
Brian
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| 2802.26 | Another victim of multiple toy syndromes | GANTRY::ALLBERY | Jim | Fri Sep 10 1993 10:21 | 24 |
| >> It's pretty
>> bad when you lust after an amp that's "only" a 15-year old design.
Actually most the amps I lust after are older designs than that ;^)
My GTS has been in remission as of late, outside of a recent
relapse of my chronic case of OM28 desire, which seems to have
faded (for the time being). I not much into playing electric these
days, and I pretty satisfied with my acoustics. Well, I would like
to replace my Seagull 12 string with a Martin D1228. And I wouldn't
mind replacing my Hirade with a really nice Ramirez. And it WOULD
be nice to have a smaller bodied companion to my HD-28... And I
do get periodic cases of arch-top envy... BUT, since 90% of the
time I play the HD-28 or the Hirade, and if I want to play electric,
I'm pretty happy with my strat (and strat XII), GTS isn't the problem
it used to be... I haven't bought a guitar in almost 2 years. There
are things I'd like to have, but most of the price tags are rather
high.
On the other hand, ATS (Astronomy Toy Syndrome) and PTS (Photography
Toy Syndrome) have been raging rampant...
Jim
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| 2802.27 | My life with GTS | GOES11::HOUSE | I walk 47 miles of barbed wire | Fri Sep 10 1993 10:59 | 13 |
| Fortunately for me, I don't have a lot of passions. But the ones I do
have are pretty extreme. For the most part, I'm not heavily tempted by
GTS anymore. Now STS is a completely different matter. Megabux, and
almost every piece of it was used and cost me, at most, half of it's
original new price. Ouch...
The studio is clearly a major fund-sink, but it has diverted my
attention off of guitar toys a bit.
Now, I also enjoy my VW and some woodworking and stuff, but I don't
pour money into that stuff.
Greg
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| 2802.28 | | FRETZ::HEISER | notes from the lost civilization | Fri Sep 10 1993 11:23 | 4 |
| > He who dies with the most toys, wins!
You mean: He who dies with the most toys, still dies, and can't take
them with him.
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| 2802.29 | | BSS::STPALY::J_KUHN | $rally run away | Fri Sep 10 1993 12:00 | 4 |
| My real weakness is recording books and various "how to play ..." guitar
books.
j
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| 2802.30 | I'm reading about how to practice reading. | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Fri Sep 10 1993 12:24 | 24 |
| RE .29:
That's another beauty. Spending time, effort & money to obtain books so
you can *read* about how to play. Next, I suppose you'll want the
latest books & video tapes, & a VCR & Hi-res monitor to watch them. Why
not get a Craftmatic adjustable bed while you're at it.
"Book/magazine" syndrome may be a phase or part of all the "toy"
syndromes. If you find yourself spending $$$ on a magazine so that you
can read the TV listings of your favorite fishing show, you can assume
the lobotomy was successful.
Don't get me wrong, I've got a veritable library of material on
each of the toy syndromes I've been addicted to myself. Furthermore,
there's nothing wrong with reading up on something especially during
those times when it's impossible to *do* it, but books & magazines are
marketed nowadays to be *consumed*, so they can take on a life of their
own if you let them.
Personally, I'm glad GTS is so widespread. It means there are lots
of great bargains in used gear !
Paul
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| 2802.31 | | MANTHN::EDD | Look out fellas, it's shredding time... | Fri Sep 10 1993 13:39 | 9 |
| re: ATS & PTS (Astronomy and Photography)
Oh man, I came dangerously closely to the bringing those together into
the fatal astrophotography combination, being but a simple T-mount
away from losing my fiscal sanity...
I can control it. Really. I can.
Edd
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| 2802.32 | .30 is right | BSS::STPALY::J_KUHN | Thela Hun Ginjeet | Fri Sep 10 1993 13:59 | 15 |
| RE .30:-)
> That's another beauty. Spending time, effort & money to obtain books so
> you can *read* about how to play. Next, I suppose you'll want the
> latest books & video tapes, & a VCR & Hi-res monitor to watch them. Why
> not get a Craftmatic adjustable bed while you're at it.
You hit the nail on the head. Yes, I learn stuff in some my recording
books that have really helped and a few things in my guitar books, but
I do spend more far more time *reading* than playing/doing. its GTS.
And yes, I see videos I'd love to get, but I am really trying to
restrain myself. The latest of Guitar World has some How to books from
Alfred Publishing on playing, The String Bending book looks
interesting. :-) Maybe I won't order it, but keep the brochure around
to look at. :-)
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| 2802.33 | Radiacl measures | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Fri Sep 10 1993 14:20 | 16 |
| My PTS was cured when 3 of my cameras & a back seat full of accessories
got stolen ... the one & only time I ever left more than a 110 in my
car.
RE -1:
I look at the catalogs, circle all the stuff I might want, check off
the ones I "definitely need", & then forget to place the order. It
might be a "false economy" though, because if I see it in person at a
higher price, I sometimes buy it anyway.
I've controlled my STS so far by thinking about what went into the
Beatles' albums (Sgt. Pepper's = 4 track !), i.e. simple songs, simple
playing, whatever equipment was available, & *lots* of work.
Paul
Paul
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| 2802.34 | CLOSE TO HOME | CAPNET::ANDERSON_R | | Fri Sep 10 1993 14:21 | 4 |
| .0
Brilliant description...funny and wonderfull!
I wish I spent as much time playing and practicing as I do reading
those wonderfull adds.
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| 2802.35 | | GOES11::HOUSE | I walk 47 miles of barbed wire | Fri Sep 10 1993 15:02 | 12 |
| > I've controlled my STS so far by thinking about what went into the
> Beatles' albums (Sgt. Pepper's = 4 track !), i.e. simple songs, simple
> playing, whatever equipment was available, & *lots* of work.
but also consider that the 4 track the Beatles used recorded onto
ONE INCH tape and the type mikes that they used now sell for between
$2000 and $5000 EACH. Hardly what I'd call low budget, and doesn't
even remotely compare to a 4 track cassette with an SM57.
Oh goodness...the voice of STS talking, I'm afraid...
Greg
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| 2802.36 | Master of my (Digital) Domain | ABACUS::PAGE | | Fri Sep 10 1993 15:32 | 59 |
|
I've always been under control when it came to buying stuff-- I'd
like to say it's been SELF-control but in many cases it's been
WIFE-control.... with good reason. In the 6 years we've been married,
I'd be lucky to afford a set of strings, let alone any equipment.
That's a bit of an exaggeration... I have gotten a new combo amp and
a James Burton Signature Tele in the last 6 years... could never have
afforded them without doing trade-ins, though. She's been very patient
with my whining and worked hard to keep our budget manageable.
In the last couple weeks, I've finally been able to take the first
big steps toward a dream I've had since the day I first picked up an
electric guitar... having my own home studio.
I hit the road with a friend one Saturday with a plan to price
8-track reel-to-reels. I had read alot of literature, done some
preliminay shopping around, and had made some basic decisions; 4
tracks were not enough, I preferred reel-to-reel rather than cassette
"portastudios", and Digital was too expensive. I'd love to do hard
disk recording, but it just cost too much money.
We went to my usual haunts, around town, and into Boston; asked
alot of questions and learned something new at each stop. Found a place
in Boston that didn't carry recording gear but recommended Audio Video
Research (AVR) in Watertown, MA. I'd never heard of AVR before but we
headed over to Watertown to check the place out. They were extremely
helpful and offered a goldmine of good advice. On top of that, they
have excellent prices.
When he quoted me a price of $3000 for an ADAT deck, suddenly my
whole plan was up in the air. A decent reel-to-reel setup would cost
about that. It would be a tight squeeze with the budget, but...
I went home, thought about it, read some more, thought some more,
and presented my revised plan to my wife. She gave it her stamp of
approval (confirming that I had indeed married the right person!) and
the next weekend I headed down to AVR and bought the ADAT, a Mackie
CR-1604 Mixer, a pair of Tannoy 6.5 monitors, and an AKG 535EB Mike.
Then up to Daddy's Junky Music in Nashua to finish off with an
Alesis 3630 compressor, Alesis RA-100 amp, Alesis SR-16 drum machine,
Redbox MKIII, a pair of Sony MDR-7506 headphones, a couple of rack
cases to hold these goodies, and a bunch of miscellaneous cables and
accessories.
Add some stray stuff I ordered from Musician's Friend and I'm
up around $5500 bucks. It's a pretty scary investment and if I thought
too much about it I'd probably panic and bring it all back. My
philosophy has been to "not look down" and keep going ahead... the
big spending is done now and all I have to do is figure out how to use
it...
Brad Page
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| 2802.37 | | GANTRY::ALLBERY | Jim | Fri Sep 10 1993 15:36 | 11 |
| >> Oh man, I came dangerously closely to the bringing those together into
>> the fatal astrophotography combination, being but a simple T-mount
For me, the ATS was what started the PTS. I decided I wanted to take
some simple astrophotos, so I bought a camera adapter, a t-mount and
a used Nikon body. It seemed like such a shame though, to have that
nice camera, but not be able to take regular pictures with it...
So, 7 months, 5 lenses, a half dozen filters, tripods, flashes, and a
second Nikon body later, I guess I'm hooked pretty bad.
Jim (who now NEEDs a 85mm F1.8)
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| 2802.38 | | CSC32::B_KNOX | Rock'n'Roll Refugee | Fri Sep 10 1993 17:09 | 8 |
|
Addendum to a few back ...
"He who dies with the most toys *STILL ON CREDIT* wins"
/BK
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| 2802.39 | One day at a time. Easy does it! | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Fri Sep 10 1993 23:31 | 46 |
| dbII I can relate to the Fly-fishing interest. A buddy of mine got
me interested in Salmon and Steelhead fishing last year. He convinced
me that I needed Grapite noodle rods, Penn reels, chest waders,
corkers, vest, landing nets, etc. etc. etc. He's bought several
expensive fly rods, and has been tying his own flys for the last
six months. He's been bugging me to go back to the Salmon River in
Palasky NY again this fall. I enjoy sport-fishing, but drowning a
few worms with my kids is just as much fun to me.
Regarding .29 (Guitar books)
Last weekend at my local Flea market, I bought 3 books on Hawiian
guitar. One is a method book and the other 2 are song books. All
from 1931. Paid $1/each for em. The books were $1/each when they
were purchased new in 1931! The First lesson in the Method book
was dated 12/26/31. Apparently a Christmas present.
Looks like I've found something new to collect %^{)
I had a nasty bout with Les-Paul-itis this afternoon. Played a
cherry sunburst LP Standard that was mint. This is at the top
of my wishlist at the moment. I'll wait until I see a great
deal in the Want Ads and then maybe I'll make a move.
I've been a full-fledged GTS sufferer for the last several years.
This notes conference has definately fueled my interest, and my
spending as well. For a while there, I was into gear (amps, efx,
PA system, mics, recording, etc) but these days, I'm mainly into
buying more instruments. You can NEVER have too many guitars. It
just ain't possible.
I find you have to wheel and deal (buy/sell/trade) to build
up a nice collection without going totally bankrupt. This summer
I've been combing flea markets, and yard sales and have made some
incredible buys. For a total of about $500 I have aquired at least
8 new instruments, an amp, and several accessories, and that's only
counting the stuff I've kept. I've sold roughly half the stuff I've
bought and made a profit on most of it. It's a lot more fun than
buying equipment from music stores. The money I've made will help
finance the medical procedure I need to cure Les Paul-itis
permanently.
Mark
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| 2802.40 | Fix it if is't broken. | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Mon Sep 13 1993 08:43 | 27 |
| Here's a note of encouragement for all you GTS suferers. Take heart; it
*can* be done.
This weekend, I cleared off some space in my home lab & dug into one of
my Boogie MK-II's that's been on the fritz for over 2 years. I had
determined that it needed a new relay ages ago, but working inside the
tight confines of one of Mesa's "Spirit of Art in Technology" marvels has
never been particularly appealing to me, so it's been easier to put it
off & use whatever else is already hooked up.
Welp, it was a tight squeeze, & I didn't install a relay socket like I
was going to, but the whole job took less than an hour & the amp now
works fine ! Not only do I have my favorite amp back up & running, but
I'll have to spend several hours over the next week or two "testing" it
to make sure it's functioning properly & tweak in "my sounds" all over
again, because while I was in there, I cleaned the pots & left them in
a glorious state of random disarray.
I count this as a major victory over GTS. I didn't even have time over
the weekend to check out a new amp that I was going to buy ! Now if I
only had a TriAxis preamp, I wouldn't have to waste time twiddling all
those knobs again; I could just recall the presets, then my GTS would
be cured ;-) !
Paul
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| 2802.41 | | TECRUS::ROST | Going to hell in your heavenly arms | Mon Sep 13 1993 08:51 | 7 |
| Re: .40
Actually the best cure for GTS is to actually play some music. That
keeps you too busy to shop around. Plus it helps get some usage out of
what you already have 8^) 8^)
Brian
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| 2802.42 | | E::EVANS | | Mon Sep 13 1993 09:48 | 5 |
|
Try this cure - only spend as much money on toys as you spend on lessons.
Jim
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| 2802.43 | How to *really* be a tightwad... | MSBCS::ASHFORTH | | Mon Sep 13 1993 10:16 | 5 |
| >Try this cure - only spend as much money on toys as you spend on lessons.
Even better- only spend as much on music toys as you make from using same!
Bob
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| 2802.44 | Money management at the crap table | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Mon Sep 13 1993 10:35 | 21 |
| I have a problem (sort of) with both of the previous "cures".
First: lessons add up after a while, so though it's a control, it's still
a halfway measure. (Yes, I'm taking lessons now.)
Second: (This one's a killer.) I actually made a full time living as a
guitar player (notice I didn't say "musician") for almost 5 years & did
miscellaneous gigs as supplementary income for a decade or more on top
of that, so I'm still "ahead of the game". While my equipment during
that time wasn't usually "trashy", it would pale by comparison next to
what I'm using now. (Now that I've got a "real" job !)
As long as there's 5 to 10 pages of "Musical stuff for sale" every
week & only about 1 or 2 "Guitarist wanted for working band" ads per
year, buying more gear will always seem scary to anyone trying to use
the method of "only as much as you earn..." Your mileage may vary.
FWIW, I'm kinda pshched to get into more "fix-ups" for the feeling
of accomplishment that I get from it. I think part of *my* GTS has
roots in procrastination.
Paul
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| 2802.45 | a little break helps the appreciation... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | I meant that in the nicest way... | Mon Sep 13 1993 10:37 | 8 |
| My cure.........
I'm not in a band any more and only jam now and then. I put my stuff
'away' (out of site) for a while and then wait until the urge strikes
to get it back out. I'd forgotten how much I like my strat and my LP
and worked 'em both out a little this weekend.
FWIW.....
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| 2802.46 | Paradox | TECRUS::ROST | Going to hell in your heavenly arms | Mon Sep 13 1993 11:08 | 21 |
| Re: .44
One time I had my brother and his friend, a full-time blues musician,
come visit. At the time I was playing sporadically in top 40 and C&W
bands (maybe once or twice a month). The gear I had then was
essentially garbage compared to what I now own. Anyway, the friend
harangued my wife (while I was at work) about my gear, suggesting that
I obviously couldn't play because I had all this stuff. That is, his
attitude was that working musicians can't afford real good stuff so
that anyone who has it can't be working.
I'd say that in a lot of cases this seems to have some basis in fact.
I have worked with a lot of bands over the years and few of the members
had what would be considered great equipment. In fact, in one rock
band I was in, I supplied an amp for the rhythm guitarist and speakers
to the organist because all they had were little practice amps...and
they had been gigging with those! Reminds me of Keith Richards'
comment that the Stones hired Bill Wyman not because he was a great
bassist but because he owned a spare Vox AC-30!
Russell
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| 2802.47 | Fix-up is a good GTS strategy | MSE1::MULLER | | Mon Sep 13 1993 11:10 | 19 |
| I have fought (well, not really fought - more learned to live with) GTS
with a two pronged attack:
(1) When I feel that unsettled, discontented feeling that makes me want
to go straight to Wulitzers and look at stuff, I try to head to the
basement, fire up the amp and practice scales (I'm taking lessons now).
This helps me refocus on the *point* of all the toys - its hard to say
"gee, I'd sound great if I had a H&K Access preamp" when I still stumble
over my arpegios....
(2) The fixup-simplify tactic is a great "pseudostrategy". Pseudo- in
that this still means spending money: retubing that vintage amp, selling
off stomp boxes to justify the Lexicon gear I just bought (oops!),
restringing and setting up all of the guitars in my collection. While
this doesn't keep my checkbook safe it does do a number of good things:
makes me feel really good about the gear I have, brings in a small amount
of cash which makes me feel better when I spend more :'), and keeps
the music room from looking like a junkyard.
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| 2802.48 | there's no cure....sigh | NAVY5::SDANDREA | IfoughtTheLawn&TheLawnWon | Mon Sep 13 1993 11:20 | 16 |
| RE: -1
I try to remind myself of all the guitarists that can blow me away in
lix and tone with the same kind of guitars I have today. I've seen
plenty of guys at blues jams who I've envied, and they're just playing
strats plugged directly into a Fender combo...killer tone and chops!
Same with my golf and dirt bikes. I have 'decent' clubs and a new set of
Pings won't make me a par golfer. I compete on a 1986 Beta Trials bike
in an off road motorcycle sport called Observed Trials. I'm beating
plenty of guys that are riding much newer machines.
Practice, practice, practice......now, where's my Musician's Friend
catalog.....I 'need' some new stuff! AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!
8^)
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| 2802.49 | Have a tag sale. | SUBSYS::GODIN | My other preamp is a Tri-Axis. | Mon Sep 13 1993 12:33 | 27 |
| I just thought of a bizarre trick that might help, especially since
part of my house looks like a music store anyway.
Here's how it works:
Make a list of all equipment you own.
Next to each item put the amount of $$$ it would cost for parts etc.
to get working in tip top shape. If it's already AOK, put $0.0.
Make up "price tags" that say things like "Ampeg V-4 head, needs
new tubes, $46 (or whatever your estimate is)" or in the case of
something that doesn't need fixin', "Fender Dual Shownman, nice shape,
$0.0".
Then go on a "shopping spree" & see how much stuff you really have
(at "reasonable" prices) already, so you'll be that much less likely to
spend big bucks on this stuff in a music store (even if it says "Fender
Dual Showman, nice shape, $100.00") 'cause you know where you can get
one cheaper !
I don't know if this will help much, especially if the new gadget
you're considering is "different" from all the junk you currently own,
but it may inspire me to fix something again, & it may also cut down on
impulse buying.
Paul
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| 2802.50 | MORE! MORE! | BSS::STPALY::J_KUHN | target for far away laughter | Mon Sep 20 1993 12:31 | 47 |
| In case we forget. Feel free to set these numbers in your speed dialer.
:-)
<<< KDX200::DISK$KDX200_USER2:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GUITAR.NOTE;2 >>>
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Feel free to update this list. You can never have enough catalogs ;-)
Stewart McDonald (800) 848-2273
(614) 592-3201
Profound Sound (800) 637-6863
(800-63-SOUND)
East Coast Sound (203) 748-2799
Sam Ash (800) 472-6274
(718) 347-7757
Manny's (212) 819-0576
Thoroughbred Music (813) 237-5597
(800) 800-4654
(813) 238-5443
Rhythm City (404) 237-9552
Music Emporium (800) 648-8460
(301) 424-1696 Order
(301) 340-1480 Customer Service
Musician's Friend (503) 826-9545
(800) 776-5173
(503) 772-5173
The Mandolin Brothers (718) 981-3226
Elderly Instruments (517) 372-7890
EFXS Unlimited (516) 538-EFXS
Music Gallery (312) 432-6350
Sound Southwest (800) 342-4327
Factory Music (617) 871-0005
(617) 871-5951 FAX
AMS - Amer Music Supp (800) 458-4076
PMI - Pro Music Inst (800) 992-2764 Order
(201) 863-2200
Warmoth (206) 845-0403
Guitar Shop (818) 763-5200
(708) 799-1970
Daddy's Junky Music (603) 894-6492 Used
(617) 536-4205 Vintage
(603) 893-6710 FAX
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| 2802.51 | GTS hits me! | WEDOIT::ABATELLI | | Wed Jan 26 1994 07:54 | 13 |
| So there I was in Daddy's Junky Music in Nashua, NH last night
road testing a Peavey ValVerb effect. I tried it... not bad, but
not worth the $299.00 price tag in my opinion. So I try the tweed
covered Classic 50 2x12" combo without the ValVerb... hmmmmm, I like
this amp, but that reverb still isn't a Fender sounding reverb. So
compare the ValVerb to this new Fender Super 4x10" combo next to the
Peavey and it blew my socks off! It was instant GTS!!! I went over to
db's house and found myself talking about little else.
HELP!
Fred
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| 2802.52 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Wed Jan 26 1994 08:37 | 2 |
| The Peavey "Classic 50"series is a great amp, even if the reverb is
'not a Fender reverb'!
|
| 2802.53 | uh-oh | RICKS::CALCAGNI | kant sheck dees bluze | Wed Jan 26 1994 12:55 | 4 |
| yo Fred, that's the first sighting of the new Fender 4x10 Super I've
heard of. Tell us more. What did the Super do that the PV didn't?
/rick
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| 2802.54 | The Obvious Answer? | TECRUS::ROST | Fuzzbox Voodoo | Wed Jan 26 1994 13:46 | 3 |
| >What did the Super do that the PV didn't?
Cost more!!!!
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| 2802.56 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Tue Mar 15 1994 14:47 | 11 |
| Hi, I'm Greg and I have GTS. It's been in remission for quite some
time now, as I'm also suffering from a severe case of STS (studio toy
syndrome). But recently, I've had a bit of a flareup. I've been very
happy with my guitar, efx, amp, etc for quite awhile now, but lately
I've had this completely irrational compulsion to buy a Fuzz Face. I
don't know why I want it, I just do.
Help me doctor, I know you'll understand
I've got a man inside my head, I'm a self-destructive man
Greg (so...anyone got one they wanna sell me?)
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| 2802.57 | | E::EVANS | | Tue Mar 15 1994 15:39 | 19 |
|
I can't help wanting f fancy PRS with Brazilian rosewood fingerboard with
bird inlays and a sworling quilted maple top and
and an upgrade to my Proteus MPS so I can have all of those instruments
that I probably will never use and
and and an old Gibson L-5 archtop in perfect condition and
and and and a MIDI-controlled effects unit for my Marshall and
and and and and one of those new Power MacIntoshes to drive my software
Doctor, tell me, is there hope (that I can get these things)?
Jim
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| 2802.58 | Ayuh...Know wha'cha mean! | NEST::CURRY | | Wed Mar 16 1994 06:37 | 8 |
| I can vouch for the fact that this is definately a "debilitating"
disorder!! (As you know, Greg! Wanna buy an E-Bow?) I live with
the remedy for this disorder; my wife! It's simple; I don't buy
goodies and I get to live without risk of severe personal injury.....
(Sounds good to me! What can I say, I'm hopelessly "whipped"!!)
Mike
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| 2802.59 | I suffer so... | ROCKER::KNOX | Rock'n'Roll Refugee | Wed Mar 16 1994 07:35 | 10 |
|
I believe the AMA regards GTS as a genetic disorder which is far
more likely to afflict those who possess the mind-damaging "Y"
chromosone.
/Billy_K
Ref: "Learning to Live With GTS: A 12 Step Program"
Author: Dr. Einied Moorstuff
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| 2802.60 | to go with my guit-synth | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | Mine's made outta unobtainium! | Wed Mar 16 1994 07:54 | 6 |
|
I want a Digitech Vocalist (or II). Anyone know of one for
sale fairly cheap...
"Ca-a-a-ry o-on, Lo-o-ove is coming"...
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| 2802.55 | Is it worth an extra $200.00??? I dunno? | WEDOIT::ABATELLI | | Wed Mar 16 1994 08:30 | 27 |
| >> <<< Note 2802.54 by TECRUS::ROST "Fuzzbox Voodoo" >>>
>> -< The Obvious Answer? >-
>> >What did the Super do that the PV didn't?
>> Cost more!!!!
In all honesty... YEP! Cost ALOT more! The lowest price I could get
was $800.00 which is ALOT of money in my book. The Super had a more
clear tone, less compressed when compared to the PV 4x10" bassman
look-a-like. When I leaned into the guitar, it didn't clip like the PV
classic 50 combo. I'm not sure which overdrive I like more when comparing
these two amps, but in the clean mode... that Fender Super 4x10 ate
the PV up. The reverb on the PV was very good, but not a Fender type
clear to "Twilight Zone" sound and tone. That's not a bad thing, just
different.
So, is the reverb quality of the new Fender Super along with the
clean glassy tonal quality worth an extra $200 or so????
Maybe I'll let you know in a year or two....
Rock on,
Fred (who's happy with the amps he has... for now)
;^)
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| 2802.61 | sigh..... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Plonker | Thu Mar 17 1994 08:03 | 6 |
| I bought a 1962 Gibson Reverse Firebird in mint condition for $100
yesterday................
in a dream.......
8*(
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| 2802.62 | Thump! | AIMHI::KERR | No Wonder it Doesn't Work, It's Broke | Thu Mar 17 1994 08:50 | 6 |
|
Hey Steve, don't do that to me. My heart rate was up to 160 beats per
minute before I hit return. Ruined my whole day :-(
Al
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| 2802.63 | 8) | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Plonker | Thu Mar 17 1994 09:45 | 8 |
| >> Ruined my whole day :-(
Al, ruined YOUR day? I had to wake up from the dream to find myself
playing air guitar on my.....well, er, uh, never mind. Either way, I
don't have a Firebird.....STILL!
double 8*(
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| 2802.64 | Just curious | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish | Thu Mar 17 1994 11:33 | 5 |
| > playing air guitar on my.....well, er, uh, never mind.
Is yours reversed?
Dave
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| 2802.65 | >:*} | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Plonker | Thu Mar 17 1994 11:39 | 3 |
| re: -1
nope, just crooked......
|
| 2802.66 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Thu Mar 17 1994 13:18 | 1 |
| Time for a truss rod adjustment!
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| 2802.67 | tool to tool? | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Plonker | Thu Mar 17 1994 13:20 | 1 |
| >>Time for a truss rod adjustment!
|
| 2802.68 | ;-) | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | db | Thu Mar 17 1994 14:01 | 3 |
| > to find myself playing air guitar on my.....
You should be thankful you weren't trying to play it with your teeth!
|
| 2802.69 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:41 | 1 |
| ...or behind your back!
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| 2802.70 | eeesh..... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Plonker | Fri Mar 18 1994 07:10 | 1 |
| ...or installing straplocks!
|
| 2802.71 | I got it bad...... | AIMTEC::JOHNSON_R | | Fri Mar 18 1994 07:31 | 3 |
| ...for a Tom Anderson Hollow T Classic.....
RJ
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| 2802.72 | feeling left out in GTS land... | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Fri Apr 01 1994 07:47 | 4 |
| With all these recent bouts of rampant GTS in here ... how come I
don't seem to want any new toize??
8^(
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| 2802.73 | naah | BIGQ::DCLARK | I do believe I've had enough | Fri Apr 01 1994 08:03 | 3 |
| re .-1
maybe you're growing up :-) :-)
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| 2802.74 | my guess | FRETZ::HEISER | another day in DECrestaurant | Fri Apr 01 1994 08:15 | 1 |
| cuz you spent all your $$ on coastering?
|
| 2802.76 | >:*} | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Plonker | Fri Apr 01 1994 08:20 | 9 |
| Buck,
you have GTS, it's just being supressed by the long winter.......this
is the worse kind of GTS because when it finally explodes, there will
bo no stopping you......
put on a plastic suit everybody....
dawg
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| 2802.77 | The Calm Before The Storm | TECRUS::ROST | Motivation: what good is it? | Fri Apr 01 1994 08:56 | 6 |
| Well, in a more serious vein, I think that the gear revolution has
peaked. What the heck is left to do in the rack market? The retro
thing seems to have peaked (wot, no Kustom reissues?) as well. So now
we get to wait for the next wave.
Brian
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| 2802.78 | | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish | Fri Apr 01 1994 11:58 | 3 |
| Maybe it's like alcoholism - you're never cured, it's just in remission.
"Hi, my name is Dave..."
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| 2802.79 | don't stop | DOCTP::SULLIVAN | Singing for our lives. | Fri Apr 01 1994 12:25 | 8 |
|
I hope this "recovery" doesn't ppen to too many of you. You are
my main source of rationalization for my purchases. When I wonder to
myself "do I really need this thing?" I can always say, "gee, compared
to the guys in notes I hardly have any stuff."
:-)
Justine
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| 2802.81 | try it, you'll feel better | RICKS::CALCAGNI | so there's your pocket, right there | Fri Apr 01 1994 13:16 | 2 |
| Justine, admitting you have a problem is the first step...
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| 2802.82 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Fri Apr 01 1994 15:30 | 12 |
| Hi, I'm Greg and I have...
...A NEED FOR GUITAR TOYS! LOTS OF THEM!! ALL DIFFERENT KINDS!!!
SELL THEM TO ME *NOW*!!!!
Woop...um...sorry...
Greg
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| 2802.83 | queen of denial | DOCTP::SULLIVAN | Singing for our lives. | Mon Apr 04 1994 08:56 | 9 |
|
Well, I'll be all set with equipment as soon as I get this patchbay
I ordered (and some cables). And besides, a patchbay isn't really
equipment; it's just a device to make the studio tidier and easier to
use. OK, and then I might need an AKG 3000, but then that will really
be it :-)
Justine -- I can stop anytime, especially now that I need a new car...
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| 2802.84 | | FRETZ::HEISER | another day in DECrestaurant | Mon Apr 04 1994 11:02 | 4 |
| Re: Alcoholism
I don't think so. I know people who have been cured of drinking, but
have never met anyone that was cured of GTS.
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| 2802.85 | ha ha, I knew it all along (not really :-) | RICKS::CALCAGNI | so there's your pocket, right there | Mon Apr 04 1994 12:11 | 2 |
| Hey Mikey, you're still here!!!
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| 2802.86 | Is it Friday yet? | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish | Mon Apr 04 1994 12:41 | 9 |
| > Hey Mikey, you're still here!!!
Thank goodness - I was worried I'd have to be db's gadfly in here.
> queen of denial
BWAHAHAHA!
Dave
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| 2802.87 | | ABACUS::PAGE | | Tue Jun 14 1994 12:22 | 20 |
|
I never cease to amaze myself... I like to think I'm not
materialistic, but...
I just bought myself a Firebird, something I've wanted for *years*.
I found one that I really like the feel, sound, and look of, and I
think I got an okay price on.
I should be feeling happy to finally have this guitar... I should
be breathing a sigh of contentment now that one of my life's goals has
been reached.
But instead, what am I thinking?
"Can't wait 'til I get a Gold Top!"
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| 2802.88 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Tue Jun 14 1994 13:38 | 1 |
| Gold Top's rool, dude.
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| 2802.89 | | STRATA::LUCHT | Is it a passion or just a profession? | Fri Apr 21 1995 03:33 | 6 |
| I love the base note here...
...and I too am slowly F-A-D-I-N-G into this syndrome...
Kev --
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| 2802.90 | Year-end summary of GTS... | STRATA::PHILLIPS | Music of the spheres. | Thu Jan 25 1996 08:09 | 29 |
| Compared to the past few years, 1995 was a veritable orgy of GTS for
me.....
o - Began the year with helping my wife buy her first electic bass
(a short-scale Mosrite copy) which I subsequently re-finished
in a classy metallic green...
o - Used my tax return (ha!) to get my Peavey Reactor. Since I've been
playing mostly bass in bands, I've never really needed a good
workable electric 6-string till now - and the PV works great for me...
o - While my Ovation was out being repaired, I looked for a beater
acoustic and picked out a neat Washburn D-10 sunburst - sounds
kinda funky but plays great, and I can leave the Ovation safely
at home....
o - To go with my Reactor, I got my first stomp box from Daddy's (a
used Boss Flanger).
o - One of my wife's co-workers had a 5-string banjo for sale, and
so Betty decided I oughta get back and try some bluegrass. It's
not the greatest banjo but it works - and Betty bought it for me.
What a wife! ;^)
Yes, 1995 was a good year for GTS - and best of all, the medicine was
not too expensive %^}
--Eric--
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