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2748.1 | Me And My Imaginary SVT | TECRUS::ROST | I need air freshener under the drums | Wed Jun 09 1993 07:29 | 14 |
| When I first started playing electric bass, I thought you couldn't hear
it without an amp, but over the years I've found that's not the case.
What you don't hear is the "full" tone since the solid body doesn't
project the full frequency spectrum well. But you can definitely
detect pitch and hear what you're playing. In fact, things like fret
noises are perhaps more obvious playing unplugged.
You will definitely not get long sustains possible when plugged in, and
you can't practice controlled feedback 8^)
Sometimes when watching TV, I'll just sit and plunk away on my scales
and I hear it fine...so does my wife who usually asks me to stop it!
Brian
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2748.2 | The medium is the message | SUBSYS::GODIN | | Wed Jun 09 1993 07:38 | 15 |
| I've found that the type of instrument (acoustic/electric) & amp setup
definitely affects the kind of song I *write* when I'm in a song
writing mood. I've also noticed that if the string sizes & tensions of
the 2 instruments are much different that I have to play a while to get
back into the groove of the other one. I've also noticed that I've
found ways of doing things on acoustic that I doubt I would have
thought of on electric but that come in handy when I later switch back
to electric.
I use extra light strings on my electric, & something a lot heavier on
the acoustic. If you wanted to minimize the impact of the difference,
use similar strings on both.
I've also spent a lot of time playing the electric with no amp, & I
find it helps me, but your results may vary.
Paul
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2748.3 | STRAT + ELECTRICITY = SOUND | LUNER::DUBOIS_R | | Wed Jun 09 1993 09:07 | 10 |
| I personaly do not like playing an electric unplugged. It has an effect
on the sound which has an effect on my playing. I also find I will put
it down after a couple of minutes of playing. I invested in a headphone
amp a few years back when I was living in an appartment building. Done
to keep from being thrown out. I use this amp all the time now...even
though I don't rent any longer. My wife can watch TV, the kids can
sleep...and I can play and have it sound the way I like it...plugged
in. If you do any multi-track recording these amps are great.
Bob
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2748.4 | it affects your tone | GOOROO::DCLARK | warning: contents under pressure | Wed Jun 09 1993 09:45 | 6 |
| I think you're better off playing an electric plugged in. I used
to play mine unplugged a lot and found that I picked a lot harder
when it wasn't plugged in so that I could hear it. But that real
hard picking sounded lousy at when the guitar was plugged in.
- Dave
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2748.5 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Wed Jun 09 1993 10:50 | 7 |
| I think I have to agree with the last couple of responses. I've done a
lot of practicing with electrics unplugged and while I like that, and
it's good for certain things, I also find that I start picking up "bad
habits" that don't translate well to having the thing plugged in. So
then when I plug it in, I have to rethink my "technique".
Greg
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2748.6 | | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Submit to Wally. | Wed Jun 09 1993 12:23 | 7 |
| I agree with .4. I'm just learning electric guitar, but I've already
found I play it harder unplugged than plugged. Maybe that's because
I'm a beginner, but I recommend buying a headphone amp.
Of course, any kind of practicing is better than not practicing at all!
Dave
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2748.7 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Wed Jun 09 1993 12:50 | 3 |
| > Of course, any kind of practicing is better than not practicing at all!
Amen there, bro!
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2748.8 | | TECRUS::ROST | I need air freshener under the drums | Wed Jun 09 1993 15:43 | 11 |
| Rebuttal for those who say that unplugged practice leads to bad habits:
When I'm doing *serious* practicing, I'll plug in. When I'm watching
Oprah and wanna just mindlessly run scales, unplugged is OK and loud
enough, as far as I'm concerned.
I *do* advocate a good headphone amp when you need low volume. A
headphone amp plus a tape deck and a drum machine is a great practicing
setup.
Brian
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2748.9 | Record your practice sessions? | LUNER::KELLYJ | submit to Barney | Wed Jun 09 1993 16:09 | 10 |
| Yo, Brian, to pick up on something in your note, do you record your
practice sessions? I just started doing that...what an ear-opener!
I listen to the tapes the next morning on the way to work and I really
can pick out the weak spots in my playing. For example, I heard my
picking on descending passages as very uneven in both time and
dynamics; now I'm trying concentrate on fixing that.
Just another 100 years or so of practicing and I'll be an adequate
player.
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2748.10 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Wed Jun 09 1993 16:55 | 10 |
| re: .9
Interestingly enough, I was just reading Howard Roberts' column in a
recent issue of Guitar Player yesterday and he recommended recording
all your (individual) practice sessions and making use of the
recordings a part of your normal practice regime. Said it really
helped point out problems that you might not hear when you're
concentrating on playing.
Greg
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2748.11 | | CHEFS::BRIGGSR | Four Flat Tyres on a Muddy Road | Thu Jun 10 1993 03:46 | 20 |
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A related point....
I find that practising with the amp turned down (to 'domestic
environment' levels, say 5 watts or so max) is a different ball
game to playing at 80 watts. Here's a little challenge just to prove my
point. Just try playing the melody for Baa Baa Black Sheep at miminal
volume. Sounds fine doesn't it? Now wack the volume up to 60 watts plus
and listen to all those rough edges. Fingers catching adjacent strings,
awful sounding slides, buzzing etc etc. Even the quality of the pick
stands out.
I started thinking along these lines some years ago when I was
discussing the technical merits of Hank Marvin with a guitar instructor
I had at the time. His comment was "You try playing a perfectly clean
melody line with absolutely no flaws at 200 watts plus in front of a
couple of thousand people. You can get away with rough edges in blues
and rock but not with this type of music."
Richard
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2748.12 | so *that's* why I haven't improved.... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Wally the One Eyed Worm | Fri Jun 11 1993 10:05 | 5 |
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practice?.......you guys practice?
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2748.13 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Fri Jun 11 1993 12:36 | 1 |
| Not nearly enough, dude, not nearly enough.
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2748.14 | enjoy it! | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Jammin' DRTRDR | Fri Jun 11 1993 12:58 | 4 |
| >>Not nearly enough, dude, not nearly enough.
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2748.15 | practice? | ZYMRGY::sam | I made life easy just by laughing | Fri Jun 11 1993 13:38 | 6 |
| Who needs practice when you've got band rehearsal twice a week? :-)
Actually, come to think of it, I did put in a couple of hours last night
on my own. Still learnin' how to get the most out of the 12 string.
-- Sam
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2748.16 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Second heat..! | Sun Jun 13 1993 04:21 | 9 |
| what I do for practice is to get out my box o' tricks(korg a5)and plug
headphones into it and leave out my amp altogether until I feel like
playing through the amp.With having such as small place and thin walls
I can't crank it up as often as I like so the headphones/korg a5 works
for me!~
it's just a pity I can't play for toffee! 8)
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2748.17 | | DABEAN::REAUME | Do I hear a chainlift? | Sun Jun 13 1993 14:48 | 14 |
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I use my Tascam 424 multi-tacker as my primary practice device. My
guitar is fed through the H & K ACCESS (w/ the Rocktron effects in FX
loop B) out the recording out - into the multitracker. Sometimes
I use the ACCESS stereo into the multitracker since the stereo effect
is fairly intense with the headphones on (I set up two channels on the
Tascam for playback, learning songs or a jam track, and the other two
for my stereo guitar signal. My Korg A5 seems to work well in this
arrangement as well, I use it for a "quick set-up" practice. The ACCESS
obviously sounds better (and costs a *lot* more).
With a 2-1/2 year old daughter and 5 month old son, I have to have
that headphone practice capability.
-B{}{}M-
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