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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2715.0. "what is the best wood for guitar sound" by STRATA::KLO (don't get me wrong) Wed Apr 28 1993 08:05

    
    I would like to what kinda wood best for guitar body.
    I always like the sound out of heavy wood guitars.
    I like to have one guitar with maple wood body and neck, everything
    is maple. I know ash, bass, and alder they are the most popular wood
    for guitar. Can anyone tell me how it gonna sound like if the
    guitar is maple body and neck.
    
    Thanks,
    Kham
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2715.1some ideasRICKS::CALCAGNIL'Angelo MinestronioWed Apr 28 1993 09:1418
    Well, it's impossible to really say what it will sound like just from
    the wood, as other things play into that significantly as well.  Also,
    there are different grades of hardness in maple that will have some
    effect.  But generally speaking, hard maple is fairly dense and heavy,
    and a guitar made from this will give have good sustain with lots of
    brightness in the tone and a fast attack to the notes.  Soft maple
    is significantly lighter, still bright but with a warmer sound and
    a bit less agressive attack.
    
    Pedullas are the only all maple production instruments I'm familiar
    with and I've only tried their basses.  These are usually soft maple.
    The ones I've tried were suprisingly lightweight for an all maple
    instrument; they have a nice, rich, warm sound, very even across all
    the ranges, and you can get a nice edge out of them if you dig in.
    
    Hope this helps
    
    /rick
2715.2TECRUS::ROSTDon't fry bacon in the nudeWed Apr 28 1993 09:267
    B.C. Rich also made all maple axes, and I think Carvin offers them as
    well. Gibson offered an all-maple Les Paul at one point as a limited
    production model. 
    
    						Brian
    
    
2715.3In the shadow of Mt. FujiamaSUBSYS::GODINWed Apr 28 1993 10:403
    I know someone with an Ibanez or Charvel (I forget) all maple guitar,
    but I think it's a limited edition also.
    Paul
2715.4STRATA::KLOdon't get me wrongWed Apr 28 1993 10:466
    sounds like hard to get one witj all maple ha.....
    
    Thanks alot for all the replies.
    
    
    Kham
2715.5GANTRY::ALLBERYJimWed Apr 28 1993 11:106
    I used to have a '79 Carvin DC-something that was all maple.  Pretty
    nice guitar, actually.  The body was a symmetrical double cutaway --
    sort of like an LP Jr.  I've seen these show up used now and then
    for $200 - $250.
    
    Jim
2715.6One that got awaySSDEVO::LAMBERTI made life easy just by laughingWed Apr 28 1993 12:046
   I had a Hohner P-bass clone that I bought new in ~77 which was all maple.
   Heavy as a m-f, but one hell of a nice playing and sounding bass.  Wish I
   had never sold it.

   -- Sam
   
2715.7SANDY::FRASERUppity blues woman...Wed Apr 28 1993 17:375
    
    Well, the question was about guitars, but my Rick bass was solid maple,
    and my Peavey 5-string is as well.  Maybe it's more common in basses?
    
    
2715.8STAR::BECKPaul BeckWed Apr 28 1993 22:323
    Brazilian rosewood, with a German spruce top.

    Oh... you're talking about those plug-in appliances ... never mind -
2715.9How heavy is a M-F ?SUBSYS::GODINFri Apr 30 1993 14:423
    RE: .6 & .7 I have a Peavey bass that's solid OAK. Now that's MF heavy!
    Paul
    
2715.10I make tables out of them!!SALEM::STIGLook in the eye!!Mon May 03 1993 10:409
    re 9. Wow!!  Now you can use that one as a bloody coffee table... 
    I have a Guild electric with Hard curly maple. I'll never get rid of
    this one!! Since I've bought it I have not had to do anything with it
    but play it. Talk about solid attack and nice fast comfortable
    neck..and with an EMG on it....well I don't have to say anymore...Then
    of course, I have a Rich Bitch #6 which is all one-piece maple. This
    one isn't is heavy as the guild but it gives a warmer sound...
    
                                                         stig
2715.11KERNEL::MCGOWANTue May 11 1993 06:5411
    I'm sure I've seen pictures of blonde wood bodied strats - isn't that
    maple ?
    
    I was talking to a luthier a while back who works as a repair man in a
    store here. he showed me some guitars that he's made - absolutely
    superb craftsmanship, with lovely burred wood bodies (solid electrics).
    
    He said quiet firmly "To a large extend you can forget what pickups are
    on an electric, it's the wood that makes the tone"
    
    Comments ?
2715.12wood you believe?WOLVER::SDANDREAKramer is my hero...Tue May 11 1993 07:408
    My past (and current) Les Pauls, SG's, and ES335's have all had stock
    PAF pickups and they ALL had different tones.  The wood is different
    but don't forget, the AMOUNT of wood is different, too.....
    
    Interesting, the tone of my LP Deluxe (mini-humbuckers) is very similar
    to an old LP std (PAF's) I had.....
    
    steev
2715.13AshICS::CONROYHavewe learned NOTHING from Footloose?Tue May 11 1993 10:055
    My Strat (deluxe plus) has a natural finish and the body is ash.
    
    No comment on how that might affect the sound though. 
    
    Bob
2715.14GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamTue May 11 1993 10:1912
>    He said quiet firmly "To a large extend you can forget what pickups are
>    on an electric, it's the wood that makes the tone"
 
    I don't know, on the guitars I've had that I changed the pickups, a
    different pickup made a big difference.  Certain other things will
    probably make more of a change, like where the pickup is placed along
    the strings, the scale length of the guitar, that sort of thing.  Some
    people even say that how you affix the pickup to the guitar will make a
    difference (hung by springs, or screwed into the body).  I guess all
    I'm saying is that there are a *lot* of variables that come into play.
    
    Greg
2715.15RICKS::CALCAGNIsubmit to FredTue May 11 1993 12:176
    I interpret the remark a little more as "if the tone isn't in the wood,
    you're not going to put it there with pickups".  Granted, changing
    pickups can make a difference, but generally I find I can't make
    what I think is a poor or mediocre axe sound really great with pickups. 
    Conversely, it's hard to make a good axe sound bad by changing pickups
    too.
2715.16mahogany = Les PaulFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyTue May 11 1993 12:361
    
2715.17E::EVANSTue May 11 1993 14:1714
My take on this is that the qualtiy of the sound is the product of the quality
of many components.


Q     = Q     x Q        x Q         x Q           etc.
 tone    wood    pickups    hardware    strings  


If the wood is no good, then the tone won't be good.  In fact, for the tone
to be good, *ALL* of the components must be good.

Jim

2715.18Fender natural finishVOYAGR::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetTue May 11 1993 22:1414
    re .11 
    
    	I used to own a 1973 Fender Strat which had a natural finish.
    I always thought the body was maple, but I later found out it was
    ash. Apparently, Fender never made Strat bodies out of maple.
    
    	In the 1970's Fender made natural-finished Strats, Precision
    basses, and Jazz basses, with maple fingerboards. I'm pretty sure
    the bodies on the entire line were ash.
    
    	Mark
    
    
     
2715.19Ash for blondesSALEM::LAYTONThu May 13 1993 07:095
    I had a Tele Thinline with ash body and maple neck.
    
    The Jag is made of mystery wood...
    
    Carl
2715.20LUNER::KELLYJsubmit to BarneyThu May 13 1993 09:501
    They used alder a lot.
2715.21Thinlines = walnutVOYAGR::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetThu May 13 1993 11:344
    The new Telecaster Thinline's have walnut bodies. I think at least
    some of the originals had walnut bodies as well.
    
    Mark
2715.22HEDRON::DAVEBjust 'cuz you own the land, there's no unique hand floods the damThu May 13 1993 12:193
My thinline has an ash body, natural finish, fairly pretty.

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