Conference napalm::guitar

Did it sound any different to the record.....? �^)

    Yeah!  I saw that, pretty brutal!  A P-bass right in the forehead. 
    Looked like he got it hard!
    
    It was clear that he knocked something loose, since he started calling
    for Axl immediately after that...
    
    Greg

    The show last night, made me ashamed to admit that I'm a musician....
                        
     
    Like we don't have enough problems today with the kids, then we give
    them this sort of crap to watch, and the real sad part about it is
    alot of the guys are old enough to be grand-parents, and they still
    haven't figured it out yet.  
    
    Bobby Brown - What happened, all of a sudden you decide to make your
                  song a rap tune, (not)  he couldn't hit the notes, and
                  for some reason he took it out on MTV????
    
    Howard Stern - Well what can be said, this guy obviously "rode a short
                   bus" to school, and to be quite frank, he should of
                   never gotten off.  Who were the producers, of this show,
                   they couldn't have been serious.
    
    Axel Rose - The comment he made about his award having nothing to do with
                Michael Jackson, really hit home for me.  For years music
                has been to a large extent segregated, and its taken a lot
                of years and work for it to come this far, statements like
                that only help set us back.  Michael is one of the few
                entertainers that features artists from all styles of music
                on his albums, Eddie Van Halen (Beat It) Slash (Black and
                White), Jam (Heavy D, and the Boys), and so on.  At least
                he wasn't drunk this time..............Maybe he should've 
                been.....
    
    
    After the performances I saw last night, I can think of several more
    names to add to the "I JUST DON'T GET IT" topic... 
    
    

I "just don't get it" why Nirvana had to win an award.

No account, no talent bums if you ask me...

(If you can play one Nirvana tune, you know 'em ALL!)

    OOOOOO, why did I have to miss THAT! I could have taped it and then in a
    very Far Side moment, sat the children down and played them the tape and
    told "Now, children, this is how NOT to do it".
    
    Good enough for that TV guide commercial spot showing the guy playing
    "Screaming at the Top of My Lungs" with 3 hands.

    whadda dope.

    >Anyone see the bass player for Nirvana last night clobber himself
    >with his bass guitar?  
    
    Does anybody have a source for tab of this?  8^)  8^)
    
    						Elton Motello

Brian,

Send mail to TAYLOR_J and get on that distribution list...
:)

    Are they going to repeat that telecast? 
    MTV usually repeats EVERYTHING!
    
    Thanks in advance,
    			Fred

    I'm sure they will repeat it.  They replayed it again immediately after
    the first broadcast (which is how I got to see the first part, which
    I'd missed).  I'm sure it'll be on again sometime in the next week or
    two.
    
    However, unless there's something specific you want to see, I'd say
    don't waste your time.  If there is something specific you wanna see, I
    say tape it first and fast forward past the rest.
    
    Greg

    cuz Nirvana is from Seattle?

    Say what you will, I like Nirvana.  Watching them made that show for
    me.  Of course, I also like the Ramones, the Clash, Sex Pistols, AC/DC,
    and a host of other "3 chord" bands.
    
    Greg

    
    I also like Nirvana, and thought they were actually a highlight of the
    show.  I mean, they sounded like they are supposed to sound.  Howard
    Stern (Fartman, right?) was pathetic.  Metallica was actually trying 
    to say something serious upon accepting their award, and this eeeeediot
    is ruining the whole thing.  Shoot the producer!  Pearl Jam came off
    well too, I thought.

    Howard Stern is an idiot!
    
    Metallica were dumb -- not like Lars hogged the platform or anything,
    right??  They left ICE-T out of the picture with their egos!
    
    Nirvana, highlight of the show?  Not!  I thought the GnR/Elton thing
    was the highlight, for me (except Slash being drunk and playing like
    $#!t!).

    
    	Yeah Elton was great especially if you like synth solos.  Gag.
    	And GnR was great except for Slash's shitty playing?  Huh?
    	I will admit that Elton's band was tight and well rehearsed
    	and performed well.  To each their own.
    
    	-pat

    >	Yeah Elton was great especially if you like synth solos.  Gag.
    >	And GnR was great except for Slash's shitty playing?  Huh?
    
    To each his own, I guess...

    I liked Pearl Jam the best-didn't really care for them when I first
    started listening to them though.  Now I'm starting to like them more
    and more each time I hear them.  
    The Peppers are a wild bunch-it was funny watching the lead singer give
    that other band member an airplane spin...I was just waiting to see
    them go crashing off the stage.  Wonder if the bass player's going to
    be banned from MTV after the "demonstration" he gave up on top of the
    podium?
    

I didn't think Slash played badly (ya know, for Slash), but his tone surely
SUCKED big time...  Axl annoys me anyway, so I won't commnet further, but
I will say that I'd never seen a "MIDI Grand" before.

Nirvana did sound like Nirvana (errr, like them :) - I just get tired of the
simpleton themes of their tunes.  For instance:

(Sung to the tune of Teen Spirit)

Mashed potatoes -
pass the gravy
here we are now,
at the table
Wheres the meat loaf...

Wagagaga.
jc

>I will say that I'd never seen a "MIDI Grand" before.
    
    c'mon over and I'll show you my latest studio addition ;-)
    
    Like Greg, I'm a sucker for the grungie sound you here in Nirvana.  The
    lyrics are a no-brainer, but I like the music.
    
    Mike

Well - I'll admit that I like the guitar sounds, except for the lead
(thats the same in all songs) tones.

>    I thought the GnR/Elton thing was the highlight, for me (except Slash
>    being drunk and playing like $#!t!).
    
    To follow your example...
    
    GnR/Elton the highlight of the show?  NOT!!  I thought it was really
    weak.  You couldn't even hear Elton, I don't think they even connected
    an output from his "Midi Grand"...  I did think Axl's voice sounded the
    best I've heard it in a long time, but Slash's tone was so OFF that I
    couldn't deal with him.  I usually really like his tone too.  I didn't
    think his playing was all that terrible.
    
    Nirvana?  Simpleton lyrics?  Not in my book.  They're lyrics are far
    better then most of the stuff coming out of the record mill these days.
    They're interesting and relatively cliche free.  They paint a picture,
    and impression, without actually hitting you in the face with an
    explicit meaning.  So you think about it and interpret it for yourself.
    
    Greg

    
    
        Pearl Jam?  Good band.    They seem to do what Nirvana 
    is trying to do.  NoWhatIMeanVern?
    
        A couple back:  (Sex Pistols)  I saw Public Image Limited
    last week Wednesday.   This was one of the best shows I have 
    seen in years.  Johnny Rotten is still as angry as he ever was.
    Band played well and Johnny was complaining because; "...and I 
    don't have a record label!"
    
       Rick.
    
     

>       Pearl Jam?  Good band.    They seem to do what Nirvana 
>    is trying to do.  NoWhatIMeanVern?
 
    Whatcha mean, Rick?  I think what those two bands are doing is very
    different.  Nirvana is much more of a punk based band, where Pearl Jam
    is more like a rock band with added intensity.  I like them both quite
    a lot, and I think they're both doing what they want to do.
    
    Greg

    >Pearl Jam is more like a rock band with added intensity.  
    
    So, how intense is a regular rock band????    8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    You should write reviews for Circus magazine or something.  8^)  8^)
    
    						Brian

    That's easy Brian: intense bands are the serious ones.

    Didn't mean to offend ya or anything, Brian, that's just how I think of
    it myself.  I guess everyone's standard for a "normal" rock band would
    be different.  The point was that Nirvana is going for a hard-edged
    punk based sound that I Pearl Jam isn't.  The thing that impresses me
    about Pearl Jam is the "intensity" they put into the songs.
    
    Greg

    
    
       Yah, I guess so.   Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden.   They all hit
    me as...   [Crap, can't think of the right way to say it without causing 
    an uproar, or at least a debate ala grande'.]
    
    ...as cutting edge bands.   I guess I'll retract what I said 'bout
    them.  They are indeed different. (Understatement of the month award.)
    
       How about taking it from this slant.  I think Nirvana would be a 
    MUCH better band if they took their music more seriously.  Meaning the 
    musical output of the performance - not the slam dance, smash my axe,
    jump-on-top-o-crowd, spit, bash-crash-trash-amp.   
    
       Last week I caught the warm up band for P.I.L., "Chainsaw Kittens". 
    Now going on the line from the tune "Rise",  "Anger is an energy, anger
    is an energy..."     This band did nothing but play two, three chords
    which well could have been just one chord.   They were just beatin hell 
    out of whatever they happen to be holdin and the lead singer, ah,
    screamer was beltin out nothing but, errr, screams.   I understand the
    concept.  Matter of fact, there were a couple of tunes that would have
    worked well, *if* they happened to have played them instead of SCREAM. 
    Me gets the concept.  Me gets the idea.  (I like Henry Rollings's stuff.)
       
       Then Johnny walks on stage.  They conveyed what "Chainsaw Kittens"
    were trying to say - and the sound was good.  The message was there. 
    The energy was there.   
    
       So I sit back with a Bud in hand and check out Nirvana and wonder 
    who doesn't get it.   Me, or them.
    
     
      -Rick.
    
       The editorial does not reflect the opinions of this
    station - and,  considering the author, is to be taken 
    with a grain of salt,  (and a splash of Tequila.)
    
    
    

    No problem, Rick, I wasn't trying to argue with you.  I can fully
    understand when people say they don't like Nirvana (or other artists)
    and that's cool.  I just wondered what you were thinking and you
    conveyed that very well.  Thanks!
    
    Greg

	Nirvana fans (and anti-fans) should like the Weird Al video,
	"Smells Like Nirvana" :^}

Ya know, after the Video Music Awards, there's been all this talk about
Pearl Jam and Nirvana and Soundgarden, etc........

Am I the only bothered by the fact that these bands are always mentioned in
the same breath, like they are the same band??? I mean, I *love* Pearl Jam,
dislike Soundgarden, and I'm undecided about Nirvana. I think they are
three _totally_ separate groups with very individual sounds, and I could 
NEVER get the confused with one another! 

It reminds me of when poeple talked about "corporate rock" in the early 80's.
They always said that Kansas, Styx, Journey, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon, etc,
were all the same band. Come on, now - they don't sound ANYTHING alike to
people who actually _listen_ to the music!!!

alan

    
    
    	You're right Alan, they are not the same band 8')
    
    
    	But, they all come from the same circuit, all broke through in
    	the "alternative" vein, and all have (over)achieved asignificant
    	level of success, however unlikely it may have seemed 3 years ago.
    
    	That is what ties these bands together.....although not the same
    	I wouldn't doubt they were on the same bill once or twice up
    	abouts Bremerton Way...Commencment Bay etc...
    
    
    	Chris

Yeah, and they all come from Seattle - and make that quite known.
I don't consider them the same, but they all have that "Seattle Sound".
jc

    was it just me, or did Slash seem to be bending waytoofar on that solo
    on the slow song? 
    
    j_k

    I didn't heard it, j_k, but my guess is that it's not you.


    --rjb

    It wasn't you... Slash couldn't play his way out out of a paper 
    bag.  The guy is a drug-slob.   Fax is fax.  Some people is overpaid;
    Slash is one of 'em.    I say TFSO the guy...
    
    What a slob. 
    jc

    I never wanted to believe it, but its clear to me now that TALENT has
    nothing to do with making records and selling them.  As the old Sparks
    song says, "talent is an asset". Not REQUIRED.
    
     Jay

    Hey, I just happened to catch an abreviated copy of the MTV awards on an
    independant station this weekend. Saw G'nR. Unbelievable. PEE U. I
    suffered thru AXL braying so that I could enjoy Slash's string bending.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Their whole performance was like a parody. With a few
    exceptions, the rest of the show was pretty bad too.

    G'nR: the band I love to hate.

    --Ron

    maybe the pressure is getting to them, they played a make up show in
    Denver and people said they just went through the motions and put in
    their required time.
    
    jay

    God forbid they should go downhill! I suppose they could make up for it
    in tattoos. :^\