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2461.1 | I've been tempted by these, too | EZ2GET::STEWART | the leper with the most fingers | Tue Mar 03 1992 08:20 | 15 |
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Well, you're into the dilemma of an inexpensive new guitar. You don't
want to put any money into it, because you'll never see any of that
when you sell it.
Economically speaking, the best thing you could do is play this guitar
the way it is, save your pennies up, and then buy a used strat that's
closer to what you really want. You'll probably still be able to get
$125 to $150 for it when you sell, but if it's modified in any
significant fashion, it's going to be harder to sell.
Frustrating, huh? Well, if you really like the guitar, and you plan to
keep it for a long time, why not go ahead and put a Floyd Rose on it?
Or even call Steinberger up and order a Trans-Trem???
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2461.2 | Not a dilemma...really ! | SALEM::TAYLOR_J | Anyone seen my air guitar ? | Tue Mar 03 1992 08:32 | 11 |
| Well...I've got a guitar now that has a floyd , and I'm not saying
I won't put *any* money into this one. It plays pretty well as it is ,
This guitar is a spare ( for any one of my 4 other electrics ).I don't
see this as a dilemma , but as a project guitar. I'm just looking for
cost effective mods...
Gonzo
( I'm not too concerned with resale value on this low-buck toy B*) )
JT
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2461.3 | Spretzels and Beer | FSOA::BKALINOWSKI | | Tue Mar 03 1992 08:49 | 7 |
| If it already had a Fender trem just add some Spretzel (SP?) locking
tuners. Those will do wonders for the tremelo and their 75% cheaper
than adding a Floyd Rose. Plus if you decide to sell the guitar you
can always take them off.
Brian
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2461.4 | | RAVEN1::BLAIR | Ren and Stimpy...the Lost Episodes | Tue Mar 03 1992 09:00 | 7 |
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Leave it be. If you just gotta do something (I know how it is),
check out some of the notes on noise suppression. You can spend
2 bucks on muffler tape and shield the cavity. Also, $40 on a
professional set-up job would be a good thing.
-pat
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2461.5 | A couple of thoughts | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Tue Mar 03 1992 11:00 | 10 |
| I'd probably replace the pickups myself. Just get a new pickguard and
replace the whole assembly. That way returning it to stock is fast and
easy. I might block up the trem too (or add a bunch of trem springs),
another easy, reversable mod.
I like the idea of the Sperzel tuners, the Squire tuners I've seen were
junk. That way you don't need the string trees, because their height
is compensated.
Greg
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2461.6 | great ideas so far ! | SALEM::TAYLOR_J | Anyone seen my air guitar ? | Tue Mar 03 1992 11:31 | 18 |
| I'll probably install some kind of trem-block to install between
the bottom of the stock trem unit and the body , to increase sustain
( thought I won't be able to raise the wammy anymore ) , maybe bolt a
small piece of brass to the headstock ( ala-fathead ) and as luck
would have it , I have a pickup assembly w/ 1 humbucker and 2 duncan
1/4 pounder single coils. The tuners aren't to bad so the string
trees are in the near future also. I read in a Torres newsletter that
by replacing the potentiometer with 100k pots. changes the tone.
how about replacing the capacitor value ?
Whats the best way to block a trem ? My idea is to get a piece of
hardwood and cut it to size , then glue to the inner body between
the trem. and body. I don't see how I'd be able to bolt it there.
any other ideas ?
Gonzo
aka
JT
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2461.7 | pickin' and a grinnin' ! | SALEM::TAYLOR_J | Anyone seen my air guitar ? | Tue Mar 03 1992 11:38 | 4 |
| Oh yeah....I'll break out the Boss tu-12 tuner and set the intonation
on it.
B*)
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2461.8 | | HEDRON::DAVE | tiny 24 fret thaang... | Tue Mar 03 1992 11:49 | 5 |
| Check out Victor Litz music if you can find a pointer. Last time I saw one of
their catalogs you could get kahler locking trems for $39.....made me sick
as I paid the $200 list for mine way back when.....
dbii
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2461.9 | retrofit ? | SALEM::TAYLOR_J | Anyone seen my air guitar ? | Tue Mar 03 1992 12:07 | 2 |
| Does that locking trem fit into a standard strat style opening or
are we talking major surgery(sp?) here ?
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2461.10 | | HEDRON::DAVE | tiny 24 fret thaang... | Wed Mar 04 1992 09:17 | 5 |
| kahler's require a different rout that a floyd. The one I bought came with a
template for the routing and it was quite easy to do...
dbii
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2461.11 | | SALEM::TAYLOR_J | Anyone seen my air guitar ? | Wed Mar 04 1992 10:36 | 6 |
| I called Victor Litz's # and got a strange tone. I don't know if they
are out of business now or they have a new phone #. could someone
post the latest # ?
Jon Taylor
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2461.12 | | WASTED::tomg | Gray Cell Green | Wed Mar 04 1992 10:51 | 9 |
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I have to echo an earlier sentiment.
Don't do anything that you can't reverse. Cheap guitars
don't hold their value, so if you make any mods, you'll
have to eat the cost, if you sell later.
Of course some cheap guitars turn out to be great I
have a Squier (Japanese) P-bass and it's a great bass.
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2461.13 | | LEDS::BURATI | Spanish Castle Magic | Wed Jul 07 1993 14:29 | 30 |
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In a recent copy of Fender's Fronline magazine in the Tech Tips column
is a simple modification that the writer claims will cure the problem of
high-end loss in single coil pickups when the volume control is set to
less than full. In addition, he claims that this smooths out the
potentiometer's taper.
The mod consists of adding a .001 uf cap and 150k ohm resistor to the
volume control.
The writer is Larry Brooks who is Fender Custom Shop's Artist Builder.
They say he builds guitars for most of the artists that Fender deals
with. I've done this on my Tele and it does work.
Install the cap and resistor as shown below:
from PU >-----
| 150k 1/4W
*--/\/\/--+
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*----||---*
| .001u |
\ |
/ |
vol \<--------*-------> to tone control
control /
\
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2461.14 | Dazed And Confused | COMET::MESSAGE | My name is Bill & I'm a head case... | Thu Jul 08 1993 17:06 | 7 |
| I'm sorry if I'm a bit dense (I've got an excuse, it's been a rotten
day), but your schematic confuses me just a bit. Am I to infer that
you place the cap and resistor across the volume pot (from one side to
the center wiper), or from the positive lead (not shield) to somewhere
between the volume and tone pot? Enquiring minds NEED to know...
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2461.15 | | LEDS::BURATI | ribbah, RIB-BAH! | Thu Jul 08 1993 17:15 | 13 |
| > I'm sorry if I'm a bit dense (I've got an excuse, it's been a rotten
> day), but your schematic confuses me just a bit. Am I to infer that
> you place the cap and resistor across the volume pot (from one side to
> the center wiper), or from the positive lead (not shield) to somewhere
> between the volume and tone pot? Enquiring minds NEED to know...
Well, yes, errrr, no, umm, both. Physically speaking, for first choice
would be correcty. Electrically speaking, there is no difference between
the two.
--Ron
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2461.16 | CAP/RES. MODIFICATION FOR HUMBUCKER'S? | POLAR::KRESIC | | Fri Jul 09 1993 10:29 | 12 |
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I have a guitar with one volume pot and one tone pot. There is a
switch on the guitar to split the humbucker's to 2 single coil
pickup or leave the humbucker's as they are. My question is,
Can the cap/res. modification by used for humbucking pickups
as well? i.e. If I installed this mod. at the volume pot., would
it only work when Iam switched to the single coil pickups?
(the guitar has two humbucker's and 1 single coil pickup on it)
Thanks
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2461.17 | | LEDS::BURATI | ribbah, RIB-BAH! | Fri Jul 09 1993 13:41 | 7 |
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I'm not sure why it specifically mentioned single-coil pickups, but my
suspicion is that Humbucking types don't suffer from the same malady
(probably becuse they don't have as much high end to begin with) as much
single-coil types and so it doesn't make much of a difference. I don't
think it would hurt except I'm not sure that that's the best cap value
for a humbucker.
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2461.18 | Help balancing tonwe pot | POBOX::PATLA | Elvis sells DECpc's at DEC! | Sun Sep 12 1993 13:41 | 12 |
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I have a 83/84 American Strat that has one tone control one volume
control and three stock single coil pickups. The tone control only
really works from 1-3 4-10 sounds exactly like full blown treble. Is
there an easy modification that would help even out the flow so that I
could see changes from 1 all the way to 10 (because is doesn't go to
il-lev-ven)?
regards,
Pat
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2461.19 | | LEDS::BURATI | Cold Sweat Part III | Mon Sep 13 1993 14:02 | 5 |
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Is that the model that has the phone-jack located in the spot where the
2nd tone control normally is?
--Ron
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2461.20 | Fender Strat withour the angled cord input | POBOX::PATLA | Elvis sells DECpc's at DEC! | Tue Sep 14 1993 00:36 | 1 |
| Yup
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2461.21 | | LEDS::BURATI | Cold Sweat Part III | Tue Sep 14 1993 10:23 | 8 |
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That's one of the last guitars CBS-Fender put out and the variations
were done strickly as a cost cutting measure. Given that atmosphere and
your description of the symptoms, my guess that the tone pot has a bogus
taper and should be replaced. Actually I'd replace both pots while I was
at it.
--Ron
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2461.22 | Acoustic questions.... | AKOCOA::MINEZZI | | Tue Jun 07 1994 08:36 | 20 |
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How about modifing an acoustic?
I picked up a Yamaha FG-420. Right now I'm using D'addario Bronze
Med-lites (about to switch it back to lites). I was wondering if it
was beneficial to change the bridge saddle and/or nut to something
better than stock (which is plastic).
They make brass nuts, and bone bridge saddles, how about brass bridge
saddles (do they make brass saddles)? I wouldn't mind a brighter tone.
How about 'planeing' the bridge saddle down for better action? is this
recommended, or not?
Also (not sure if this is the place for this question but...) what are
some of the noters preferences on acoustic strings?
Thanks,
Ron.
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2461.23 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Aren't you glad I asked? | Tue Jun 07 1994 11:05 | 57 |
| > How about modifing an acoustic?
How about it?
> I picked up a Yamaha FG-420. Right now I'm using D'addario Bronze
> Med-lites (about to switch it back to lites). I was wondering if it
> was beneficial to change the bridge saddle and/or nut to something
> better than stock (which is plastic).
Absolutely. Plastic doesn't convey the string vibrations well, wears
quickly causing the strings to bind, and is generally inferior in all
respects to other materials.
> They make brass nuts, and bone bridge saddles, how about brass bridge
> saddles (do they make brass saddles)? I wouldn't mind a brighter tone.
Personally, I don't care for brass, either for nuts or saddles. It was
trendy for awhile, but I think it gives the guitar a harsh, tinny,
sound. My preference for nuts and saddles, especially on acoustics is
bone, but there are some synthetic materials which aren't too bad, like
Corian. Corian is softer and significantly easier to shape and work
with then bone, but I like the bone better. I've read that the Corian
can give a more consistant response when using an under-the-saddle
pickup.
Bone should give you a somewhat brighter tone then your plastic and
should increase your volume if it's properly fitted.
> How about 'planeing' the bridge saddle down for better action? is this
> recommended, or not?
You can basically do anything with the saddles that you want and not
really hurt anything, since they're easily replaceable. The great
thing about saddles is that blanks are reasonably inexpensive and easy
to replace, so you can experiment quite a lot with different heights
and such without making any irreversable changes to the guitar.
I'd recommend against planeing the bridge itself. Be aware that you'll
generally have more volume and tone with a taller saddle. Many
acoustic guitars come from the factory set up with a very high action,
allowing plenty of adjustment to taste.
The easiest way to start is to use your current bridge as a template to
cut the blank. That'll give you a good place to begin working. Get
the thickness so that the saddle fits into the bridge slot snugly, but
not so that you have to use a lot of force to get it in. It can't be
loose in the slot though, or it won't do it's job (and could damage the
slot).
> Also (not sure if this is the place for this question but...) what are
> some of the noters preferences on acoustic strings?
I've been using Gibson phosphor bronze strings on my acoustic for the
last year or so and I like the tone and the feel. But, I'm not a
conneseur of acoustic strings, so YMMV.
Greg
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