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2401.1 | What a nut | ODIXIE::LINCE | | Wed Dec 11 1991 21:46 | 7 |
| RE .0
Reading my base note I realize that I'm looking for a needle in a
haystack.... any pointers to guitarist/groups to listen to would sure
help though.
Jim
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2401.2 | | PAKORA::IGOLDIE | Saor Alba | Wed Dec 11 1991 21:59 | 5 |
| I've got a tape of a dude who sounds a bit like that.His name is Adrian
Legg.Nice to mellow out to!!
Staynz
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2401.3 | maybe??? | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Thu Dec 12 1991 08:45 | 5 |
| In the late 70's Holdsworth played on two Tony Williams Lifetime
release's "Beleive it" was one of those release's. Have you heard
these? I believe he used a SG Standard,100 watt Marshall and a MXR
100 Phase Shifter for most of that period.
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2401.4 | Know the dude, forget his name... | CAVLRY::BUCK | | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:15 | 5 |
| If it was from Boston, it was this dude who my friend from Berklee used
to take lessons from. Oh gawd, I will have to pick the ole brain for
his name and his band's name. He was in GP's Spotlight one year, fwiw.
He lives in the Boston area, plays Gibson SG guitars exclusively, and
sounds more like Holdsworth than Holdsworth!!
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2401.5 | Bruford or UK? | COPCLU::SANDGREN | Lhep! I'm trpdd ina P11D*P | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:23 | 26 |
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Jim,
It might be the band 'Bruford'. It featured Bill Bruford on
drums, Alan Holdsworth on guitar, Jeff Berlin on bass and Dave
Stewart on keys. They made 3 albums I'm aware of (and bought):
Feels Good To Me (1977)
One Of A Kind (1979)
Gradually Going Tornado (1980)
I'm not sure Holdsworth joined the last one, though. There's
a 'best of' CD available with tracks from these recordings.
Also, Holdsworth joined another band with Bill Bruford, namely
'UK', also featuring Bill Bruford on drums, then John Wetton on
bass and Ed Jobson on keys:
U.K. (1978)
Danger Money (1979) (Terry Bozzio on drums)
Night After Night (1979) (live)
All of them, great albums!
Poul
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2401.6 | | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Soaring on the wings of dawn | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:13 | 11 |
| Holdsworth has appeared on tons of albums besides his own name: Stu Hamm,
U.K., I.O.U., Jimmie Johnson, etc.
I think I've seen the guy Buck mentioned (he actually opened for
Holdsworth!!! at some hole-in-the-wall near Out-of-town in Cambridge.
It was rather astonishing how much he sounded like Holdsworth, but I
definitely preferred the "real thing".
Another Holdsworth sound-alike: Eddie Van Halen on the solo on (I
believe) "Drop Dead Legs" on "1984"!
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2401.7 | great work! | ODIXIE::LINCE | | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:39 | 39 |
| Okay - I'm impressed!
1) I've heard the Bruford/AH/Berlin and thats not it - they are way
too "rock" sounding. This was very flowing fusion with a definate jazz
chords on the keys. It was not UK as I have that album and Eddie Jobson
was always craking on the CS-80...and still too rockish.
2) Not EVH - although I'd love to hear him with a top rate fusion
band.
3) I've only heard the TWLifetime 'believe it' and YES - it does
sound alot like 'fred', but no phase shifter and just a acoustic piano.
4) I'd really like to check out the Boston 'local' idea if this guy
played fusion, cause it really could have been.
5) Also - .3 is this 'tape' available as a commercial release?
Thanks for all your help. I really wasn't expecting this...what a
great crew.
I was thinking last night that this player sounded alot like AH, but
didn't do all the slurring and whining that AH does - it was really
quite stright ahead if this helps. It was excellent. TO this day - I
still remember that tune. Everything just fit. and great ride work on
the drums/cymbals (the drummer would track the riffs of the guitarist)
as I've said before.
I just gotta find this..
Oh, It sounded *alot* like the AH/Joe Beck album if it had a not too
complex fusion drummer (definately not a drum machine) and *I think*
electric fretless bass player). Take Pat Metheny's Bright Sized Life
and get a hotter drumer - keep Jaco - add a pianist - and put AH in it
instead of Pat - and that would be real close.
Yes - definately a Marshall sound.
Jim
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2401.8 | A little more... | ODIXIE::LINCE | | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:52 | 23 |
| I've reread the replies....
I've only heard the 'One of a kind' with Bruford and as I said not very
close - too rockish. I also have 'Feels good to me' and thats even
colder. This doesn't sound like typical *early/mid seventies fusion*. I
don't think it was Brufords sound (but I could be dead wrong). I bought
Earthworks and The best of collection and, no not it.
I have not heard the other 'uk' album - as I said though - there is no
synths involved and no John Wetton crooning.
THis had a definate jazz feel - like a hot John Scofield tune. Alot
on energy - but not lightspeed runs. But I'll be dang if it wasn't AH.
But AH usually lets out at least one intense/lightspeed/all over the
place riff in his solos - and this was absent in this song. I mean yes
- it was technical playing and definately had that alternating fusion
note pattern (what I call it) - oh, I'm running out of ways to describe
it....
!
Jim
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2401.9 | All I remember is his first name is Hugh | CAVLRY::BUCK | | Thu Dec 12 1991 10:55 | 5 |
| RE: db
YEs, that's the dude (he opened for Holdsworth)!
Remember his name?
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2401.10 | "Step up...to the real thing!" | BSS::SGOHSLER | just say neaux! | Thu Dec 12 1991 13:11 | 9 |
| Perhaps it was the "unknown Tony Clarke" who played on one of the
Bruford albums as well as the bootleg "The Bruford Tapes". This guy
does everythig AH does and maybe more. Also, the times I've been
fortunate enough to catch AH, he was getting his tone out of two
Fender Twins run stereo at paint-peeling volume with little or no
signal processing.
Scotty - who noticed that Ted Nugent's famous "Wall of Twins" only
contained two working models!
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2401.11 | Velvet Darkness | BSS::SGOHSLER | In The Twinkling of an Eye | Thu Dec 12 1991 15:51 | 9 |
| AH also has an album entitled "Velvet Darkness". I loaned my copy
out about 12 years ago and... you know the rest of the story. I
really liked that album (sigh). As I recall, the material was quite
diversified. I've not been able to replace it as I live in the
aesthetically wonderful, but culturally lagging State of Colorado.
Maybe it was a cut off of this album that you are looking for. If
anyone has a copy, can I please get a dub?
Scotty
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2401.12 | Name that tune!!! | ODIXIE::LINCE | | Thu Dec 12 1991 17:17 | 14 |
| RE: -1
No - I have velvet darkness - not it thanks.
It is too "hard" in comparision.
Mail me some info and I'll send it to you.
Could be Tony Clark. How can I find out more ???
If nothing else, at least I'll get some new blood into my collection.
Thanks!
Jim
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2401.13 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | | Thu Dec 12 1991 21:43 | 1 |
| Got the name...Hugh Ferguson. Now, for the band name...
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2401.14 | | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Soaring on the wings of dawn | Fri Dec 13 1991 15:19 | 18 |
| > RE: db
> YEs, that's the dude (he opened for Holdsworth)!
> Remember his name?
Nope.
There's another Boston-area guy that's supposed to sound like Morse.
I've "seen" him, but I haven't seen him play.
He usually gets invited backstage when Morse does a show in the area.
Morse is not easily imitated because of his hybrid picking style, but
then again, Holdsworth isn't easy either.
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2401.15 | Gradually Going Tornado | ODIXIE::LINCE | | Mon Dec 23 1991 15:22 | 11 |
| Sooo...
I went out and purchased Bruford's "Graddually going Tornado".
I like it, but that's not it. The "Unknown John Clark" could be it, and
bass playing of Jeff Berlin sounds very close. DId John Clark play on
any of Berlin's solo albums????
I'm still looking.
Jim
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2401.16 | | HNDMTH::TUTAK | Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdome | Thu Dec 26 1991 18:49 | 8 |
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I empathize with you...I went similarly nuts when I heard Frank
Gambale's "Stephanie"....took me several months...
John Clark doesn't play on the two of Berlin's releases that I have...
the two Bruford releases are the only place I've heard his work.
Peter
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