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2384.1 | | ZYDECO::MCABEE | A semaphore named Godot | Tue Nov 26 1991 20:19 | 15 |
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>Does anyone know what open tuning Ry Cooder uses on the "13 Question
>Method" on the Get Rhythm lp? I think it's an open D but what has he got
>the A string tuned to in order to keep the walking bass line? My ear just
>can't seem to pick it up.
I don't know the answer but I do know that Ry has big hands and sometimes
does stretches you shouldn't try at home. :^)
If you're willing - and able - to stretch, you can play in standard tuning
and sound like open tunings. You can also hurt yourself if you get too
outrageous.
Bob
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2384.2 | | E::EVANS | | Thu Jun 03 1993 09:18 | 5 |
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Anybody know where there is a Ry Cooder note?
Jim
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2384.3 | yer lookin' at it! | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Wally the One Eyed Worm | Thu Jun 03 1993 09:43 | 6 |
| >> Anybody know where there is a Ry Cooder note?
yes, this conference, note 2384
8^)
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2384.4 | | E::EVANS | | Thu Jun 03 1993 10:06 | 4 |
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:-p
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2384.5 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Thu Jun 03 1993 13:01 | 1 |
| Does anyone know WHY there is a Ry Cooder note?
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2384.6 | %^) | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Submit to Wally. | Thu Jun 03 1993 13:47 | 7 |
| re: .5
Because we value differences, dude!
(Don't we?)
Dave
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2384.7 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Thu Jun 03 1993 14:47 | 4 |
| Ry Cooder is the one and only performer I've ever seen booed off a
stage.
gh
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2384.8 | Both Sides Now | TECRUS::ROST | I need air freshener under the drums | Thu Jun 03 1993 15:00 | 5 |
| Ry Cooder is the one and only person I know of who has recorded with
both Judy Collins *and* Capt. Beefheart which should count for
something.
Brian
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2384.9 | More notes-per-second isn't necessarily better | TAMDNO::LAURENT | Hal Laurent @ MEL | Thu Jun 03 1993 15:02 | 13 |
| re: .7
> Ry Cooder is the one and only performer I've ever seen booed off a
> stage.
He doesn't exactly tend to play stuff that appeals to the masses.
I'm really surprised to hear Ry-bashing in a *guitar* conference.
This is the guy that taught Lowell George to play slide guitar!
As Steve Dandrea would say, "Sheesh!"
-Hal
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2384.10 | bad night? | RICKS::CALCAGNI | submit to Fred | Thu Jun 03 1993 15:06 | 5 |
| Hey Greg, maybe you'd like to elaborate on why he was booed off the
stage. Do you think it's his playing in general? The wrong crowd
for his music? Or was it just a bad show?
/rick
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2384.11 | | E::EVANS | | Thu Jun 03 1993 15:11 | 5 |
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Maybe he was the warm-up act at a Metalica concert?
Jim
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2384.12 | Details | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Thu Jun 03 1993 15:15 | 22 |
| re: Rick
I think in that particular situation, it was a combination of the wrong
crowd for his music and a bad show. He was opening for the Rolling
Stones at ASU stadium in 1982. The place held 80k people and the show
was sold out. He went on pretty early, I'd guess probably 3/4 of the
people were there. Honestly, I thought his playing *was* really bad,
terrible in fact. The sound wasn't very good for him either, which
didn't help. Actually, I don't remember for sure if there was really a
*lot* of actual "booing" going on, but I do remember DEAD SILENCE after
each song. I mean, not even a polite little clap or anything. It was
like in the cartoon where Daffy Duck dances his butt off and takes a
bow and all you can hear are the sound of crickets. Pretty incredible
seeing 60k people sitting there staring at a performer... He left the
stage after about 3-4 numbers.
I didn't boo or anything myself, I was just watchin people.
Afterward, George Thorogood played and got a very good response, as did
the Stones.
gh
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2384.13 | Open saskatchewan, open sarsparilla | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | get me a gin and pentatonic | Thu Jun 03 1993 19:25 | 12 |
| re Ry Cooder
Most of the stuff I have heard is soundtrack related eg:
Paris Texas (great music) so if this is what he was playing to
a rock crowd (stones and thorogood fans) I can see while he crashed
and burned.
Re Daffy Duck
that really cracked me up .....I love those warners cartoons
and Daffy just the greediest self centred being in cartoon land
...got to love him
P.K.
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2384.14 | And you thought that toons were for kids! | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Thu Jun 03 1993 23:55 | 3 |
| And remember what Yosimite Sam always said:
"Pirate only run for two things... Money and public office..."
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2384.15 | recommended | RICKS::CALCAGNI | submit to Fred | Fri Jun 04 1993 08:36 | 13 |
| re Greg
Yeah, I can understand how you would be turned off by an experience
like that. I don't know if you've checked out any other Cooder or
if you even care to, but I would definitely not judge him by that
one show. Ry is an *excellent* player, and his slide work in
particular is legendary; most modern electric slide players owe
a debt to him in one way or another. Of his solo recordings, my
favorite is "Bop Till You Drop", but they're pretty much all good.
I believe he was part of the recent "Little Village" collaboration;
not sure how that stuff is, but might be worth checking out.
/rick
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2384.16 | sheesh...... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Wally the One Eyed Worm | Fri Jun 04 1993 08:39 | 1 |
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2384.17 | | EZ2GET::STEWART | Fight fire with marshmallows! | Fri Jun 04 1993 10:25 | 10 |
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Yeah, Ry is part of little village. He also did a lot of the guitar
work in the movie "Crossroads".
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2384.18 | Ryland P. Cooder | TECRUS::ROST | I need air freshener under the drums | Fri Jun 04 1993 10:39 | 31 |
| Ry has had a long and varied career. His early stuff was in the
folk/blues vein but he grew into more of a rocker over time, while
still spending a lot of time exploring ethnic musics (notably Tex/Mex
conjunto and Hwaiian styles). He recently recorded an album of duets
with an Indian guitarist, jamming on some ragas.
As a sideman he's played with quite a few people: Captain Beefheart,
Taj Mahal, Judy Collins, Little Feat, Rolling Stones (he's on "Sister
Morphine" amongst others), Randy Newman (check out "Burn Down The
Conrfield" for some eerie slide), Eric Clapton (he's on the "Money and
Cigarettes" album, while fellow fretburner Albert Lee plays keyboards!)
He was the #1 call slide player in LA studios through much of the 70s
before he started branching out as a solo performer, then in the 80s he
retreated into (lucrative) soundtrack work.
In addition to guitar, he's also a skilled mandolinist in the tradition
of Johnny Shines.
Ry has claimed that Bahamian guitarist Joseph Spence was a major
influence. If you listen to Spence's 1958 Folkways recordings
(recently reissued on CD) you'll actually hear a lot of stuff that
you might have though the folk-boomers of the 60s invented! However,
Spence is not a slide player, and it's unclear where Cooder got that
from, since he sounds very much unlike Robert Johnson, Elmore James or
Muddy Waters.
One concert tour of the past that I would have liked to have seen (too
bad I was out of the US at the time): Ry Cooder opening for Captain
Beefheart and Little Feat.
Brian
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2384.19 | Maybe I *would* be interested... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Fri Jun 04 1993 10:41 | 6 |
| > Of his solo recordings, my
> favorite is "Bop Till You Drop", but they're pretty much all good.
He covers The Ramones?
Greg
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2384.20 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | just 'cuz you own the land, there's no unique hand floods the dam | Fri Jun 04 1993 11:39 | 4 |
| Little Village is ok, not great, but ok. I've got it and have listened to it
a number of times. not Ry's best work by far.
dbii
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2384.21 | 8^) | WOLVER::SDANDREA | Wally the One Eyed Worm | Fri Jun 04 1993 12:02 | 3 |
| tolday this was the Ry Cooder note!
8^P
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2384.22 | sheesh..... | WOLVER::SDANDREA | Wally the One Eyed Worm | Fri Jun 04 1993 12:03 | 6 |
| >> tolday this was the Ry Cooder note!
>> 8^P
that's 'toldya'
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2384.23 | Worth a listen ! | VOYAGR::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Fri Jun 04 1993 13:23 | 12 |
| Ry Cooder also backed up John Hiatt on his "Bring the family" album.
This features some of Ry Cooder's best work IMHO. Includes the tune
"Thing called love" which Bonnie Rait had a hit with. There is a
tune on this album called "Lipstick Sunset" which features some of the
most beautiful slide playing I've ever heard.
As someone else said, his playing can be very eerie sounding at times.
He generally plays a Strat outfitted with a Pedal-steel pickup. He
plays through small Fender amps like Princeton reverbs cranked upto
10. Gets a nice gritty sound perfect for his style of playin'.
Mark
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2384.24 | | LEDS::BURATI | you've got me floatin', float to groove | Fri Jun 04 1993 16:16 | 5 |
| > tune on this album called "Lipstick Sunset" which features some of the
> most beautiful slide playing I've ever heard.
AGREED!
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2384.25 | | LEDS::BURATI | you've got me floatin', float to groove | Tue Jun 08 1993 14:11 | 4 |
| Does anyone know who did the slide work on BNob Seger's "Like a Rock"?
Nice.
--Ron
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2384.26 | | GANTRY::ALLBERY | Jim | Tue Jun 08 1993 15:24 | 10 |
| RE: .25
>> Does anyone know who did the slide work on BNob Seger's "Like a Rock"?
I read somewhere that Bob played it himself. It kind of surprised me,
since he's never been really noted as a guitarist. I believe he did
play most of the leads on the old Bob Seger System recordings, though
(pre Silver Bullet Band).
Jim (from the motor city)
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2384.27 | *real* nice solo! | QRYCHE::STARR | I want to see you dance again.... | Tue Jun 08 1993 16:01 | 7 |
| >> Does anyone know who did the slide work on BNob Seger's "Like a Rock"?
> I read somewhere that Bob played it himself.
Nope, not true! That was Rick Vito on slide guitar; he went on to play in
Fleetwood Mac after leaving Seger, and recently released a solo album.
alan
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2384.28 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Son of Spam | Tue Jun 08 1993 18:48 | 4 |
| Seger's stuff was never as good after that first live album. Then came
the "silver bullet" days of lame songs and commercials...
gh (also a Motor City Madman, for awhile)
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2384.29 | | LEDS::BURATI | Clinton-Gore: Out In Four | Tue Jun 08 1993 19:58 | 6 |
| Rick Vito, huh? Geepers, whooda thunk. Up there with Ry's which is why I
axed in here.
Thanx,
Ron
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