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2321.1 | | LEDS::ORSI | Cuz I felt like it....OK!?!! | Mon Sep 09 1991 15:41 | 11 |
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Re .0
I've owned a Les Paul Professional and it sounds like either a
LP Recording or a LP Personal which were very similar.
Your note is a bit confusing. Where is the 1/4" jack located?
Is there more than one XLR jack? The female XLR jack up near the
neck is for a mic. Is this the one you say couldn't be a balanced
lo-imp system?
Neal
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2321.2 | I don't fully understand about the microphone | CSC32::MOLLER | Fix it before it breaks | Mon Sep 09 1991 16:29 | 11 |
| Yes, it is near the neck. Why on earth would you want to put a
microphone into your guitar? (its' up on the outside edge where
the pickup selector on Les Pauls usually are). The wires from this
XLR jack connect to the pickups (at least they appear to) and there
is a level control for the jack.
There is only one XLR jack, and it's the one that I described. The
other jack is where the normal high impedance jack for a Les Paul is.
Jens
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2321.3 | Why it's there | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Sep 09 1991 18:34 | 3 |
| Les had a mic jack on his own guitar so he could sing and play.
Danny W,
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2321.4 | yes, like a bass-o-matic.... | CSC32::MOLLER | Fix it before it breaks | Mon Sep 09 1991 18:55 | 17 |
| I can't imagine (maybe it's because I do all sorts of random
signal processing - 2 different distortions, flanger, octavator,
compression and slap-back delay) running my vocals thru the same
signal path as my guitar. Even If I didn't try to make my guitar
sound like Darth Vader, I would suspect that the tone settings
for one would not necessarily benifit the other. Even then, what
an odd place to put the jack. I suppose that it makes sense to
someone (hey, it's not my guitar, I was just fixing some problems
with it); certainly not me. Once I change the strings (these
feel like they have baked on 30 weight motor oil on them), I'll
be giving the guitar back (I like to use the old strings until I'm
done with the adjustments - no reason to break a new one as I
loosen/tighten it 20 times).
Jens
(Hmm.... maybe as a sort of VOCORDER effect.... Nahhh....)
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2321.5 | projectile efficiency: 2 birds, 1 stone | EZ2GET::STEWART | Balanced on the biggest wave | Mon Sep 09 1991 19:38 | 9 |
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Why not use the new strings to set up a guitar? You get a chance to
stretch out the new strings and get the intonation right on. Unless
you put on exactly the same guage strings your intonation adjustments
are going to be slightly off, right??
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2321.6 | XLRs lock nicely... | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI | This time forever! | Tue Sep 10 1991 10:06 | 7 |
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Any chance you could draw out the entire schematic?
Any chance that the XLR is simply HI Z, 'cept on a different
kind of connector?
Joe
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2321.7 | Same but different? | GIAMEM::DERRICO | Set Weekend=RELAX_ON | Tue Sep 10 1991 12:33 | 8 |
| I don't think it was for a microphone. I had a Les Paul Recording
Bass, As far as I know, It was used to go direct in to the board.
BUT...I may be wrong...
I'll have to check my wiring diagrams for that. It could be an
"Unbalanced Low-Impedance" set-up.
/J
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2321.8 | | GIAMEM::DERRICO | Set Weekend=RELAX_ON | Tue Sep 10 1991 12:36 | 2 |
| ....Also, It could be that the pickups are acually low impedance,
and the output of the transformer is High...?.
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2321.9 | I no longer have it... | CSC32::MOLLER | Fix it before it breaks | Tue Sep 10 1991 12:57 | 25 |
| Well, it sounds fine directly into my Twin Reverb (but then again, you can
connect unbalenced Low Impedance into a High Impeadance input, and it will
work, however it does work a lot better with a matching transformer - I
believe that this guitar's 1/4 in jack has one built in). The adjustments
that I made were with a file, and I corrected the work of someones flat
file accross the frets. They should have a crown on them, these frets were
quite flat accross the top. I don't care about the old strings when I'm filing
frets (I loosen them, file, then re-tighen them - no reason to nick new
strings) Intonation was set once the new strings were on, and I'd played the
guitar for a while (I made sure that everything was streched out).
I didn't jot down the schematic, as I didn't disassemble the guitar. I was
just very curious about the jack. The owner mentioned that it was for a
microphone (he did this after it was mentioned in this notes file), so, I
can assume that this was it's intended use. The guitar plays very nicely,
and the tone is warm - I'd guess that this was intended for jazz guitarist
(but I can't recall seeing anyone ever play one with a microphone plugged
into it) - I would suspect that it has a very limited market.
The person who owns the guitar bought to because it was inexpensive (for a
Les Paul - something that he always wanted), but he really didn't know
much more about it. It plays very well, but, I wouldn't be interested in
owning one.
Jens
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2321.10 | really is a mic jack | RANGER::WEBER | | Wed Sep 11 1991 11:45 | 14 |
| The uncrowned frets are Gibson "Fretless Wonders", standard for the LP
Personal.
The idea of the mic jack was to stick a gooseneck mic into the
connector and adjust it so it was in front of your mouth. If it sounds
bizarre, it is what Les used to do--there is a famous publicity shot of
him using this setup.
This series of guitar differed from the regular les Pauls in more than
just the electronics. The bodies have a different shape, and a
relatively flat top. They are all mahogany, without a maple top cap.
Most people found them rather ugly, but the slanted neck end is cool.
Danny W.
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2321.11 | A few comments | CSC32::MOLLER | Fix it before it breaks | Wed Sep 11 1991 15:15 | 17 |
| I have Fretless wonders on my SG, they are fairly flat (I agree), but there
is a slight crown in them - I love em. These still had the file marks on
them from the last guitar specialist who worked on them - I think I did
a better job, the intonation was set when I was done..
As for the Microphone, I guess that it just goes to show you that each of
us have different needs and desires.
The body is mahogany, and looks a bit more like an L-5 than a standard
Les Paul model - about the weight of a cinder block.
Thanks for all of the info; you don't see many of these guitars, and they
definately aren't like the stock Les Pauls (I hate gold plating - it
wears so poorly - this guitar was a fine example of why not to order it
if you ever plan to play the guitar).
Jens
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