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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2302.0. "old guitar info requested" by CALS::GOONAN (into the greenwood gone) Thu Aug 22 1991 14:00

    My father has a Haynes Bay State guitar with original pine "coffin"
    case (probably made around 1900).  He lives in New Mexico.  Because the
    guitar was manufactured in Mass. he asked to see if anyone around here
    can tell if it has any value.  Does anybody know of a source to contact
    about this?
    
    This note is cross-posted in the Antiques conference...
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Julie
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2302.1InfoDENVER::MALKOSKIThu Aug 22 1991 16:3727
    Julie -
    
    These instruments were made by the Larson Brothers who made instruments
    that were sold under a lot of different names.  They were quality
    guitars (and mandolins) and, though they don't have the same name
    recognition as C.F. Martin, they are quite nice.  Certain models are
    highly regarded by collectors.
    
    Value is hard to establish without knowing more.  Condition is the most
    important factor.  Is it original?  Has it been repaired or refinised?
    (Refinishing reduces the value.)  A complete desription would also
    help, like, how big is it?  What woods are in its construction?
    
    If you can find that out, and if you have a picture, the people you
    want to contact are The Mandolin Bros., 629 Forest Avenue, Staten
    Island, NY 10310  (718) 981-3226.  You will want to talk with either
    Stan Jay, the owner, or Larry (I forget his last name, sorry).  I've
    know Stan for 25 years and he is regarded as one of the top instrument
    collector/dealers in the world.  I was in the shop three weeks ago
    (yes, I bought ANOTHER guitar!) and he is always getting calls from
    England, Ireland, Spain, etc.  These guys know there stuff.  I've
    bought and sold at least 15 instruments through them over the years and
    I regard them highly.  They will be happy to assist you and you will
    get an accurate appraisal from them.
    
    Paul
    
2302.2Not a LarsonGANTRY::ALLBERYJimFri Aug 23 1991 10:1921
    
>>    These instruments were made by the Larson Brothers who made instruments
>>    that were sold under a lot of different names.  They were quality
    
    
    The Larson brothers made guitars under the "Prarie State" name (as well
    as Maurer, Euphonon (sp?), and their own name).  The guitar in question
    is a "Bay State."   Bay State was one of the lines of the Oliver
    Ditson company.  Mr. Haynes took over the company after the founder's
    death, and added lines under his own name.   I doubt that this guitar 
    would be in the same class as a Larson instrument (I recently saw a Maurer
    selling for $3000), but I'm no expert.  I'm sure that Mandolin Bros.
    could give you more detailed information.  I think that the use of
    the Haynes name was discontinued after Mr. Haynes death in the early
    1900s.
    
    Martin did make guitars for Ditson, but I believe that these were all
    marketed under the the Ditson name.  The original dreadnaught was a
    Martin/Ditson collaboration.
    
    Jim
2302.3Right!DENVER::MALKOSKIFri Aug 23 1991 10:259
    Jim -
    
    You're right, my error.  I also saw a Euphonon for over $3k recently,
    but it was one of the larger bodied instruments from about 1930 that
    have been favored by finger pickers.  My guess here is that this might
    be a smaller bodied guitar, ala an O or OO size.
    
    Paul
    
2302.4thanks CALS::GOONANinto the greenwood goneMon Aug 26 1991 14:0811
    Thanks, Paul and Jim, for the information.  I will contact the Mandolin 
    Bros. with the technical description.  
    
    My dad bought it in 1938 for $50 and it has the original finish. I am
    sure he would be pleased if the value was more than he paid for it. 
    *Plus* he's had all those 50-odd good years playing it...
    
    Julie