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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2257.0. "Power Amp Info Needed" by SMURF::GALLO (Danger: Slow Thinker at Work) Thu Jul 11 1991 08:52

    
    
    I'm starting to look into buying a power amp to provide power
    for both a bass rig and a guitar rig. Since I don't know *anything*
    about power amps I'll ask a few "easy" questions now... ;^)
    
    I know I have the following requirements:
    
    1. Lightweight
    
    2. 200W/channel
    	- or a mono amp doing 200W
    	- or something that would bridge to 200W @ 8 ohms.
    
    3. Solid State
    
    It's really important to find a lightweight power amp. The PV DECA 528
    looked real attractive (1 rack u 200W?/Channel) but into 4 ohms no
    bridging. The other DECA series power amps were kind of heavy. 
    
    Note that I'm not in the immediate market and it will probably take
    6 months or longer to be fully "researched". 
    
    -T
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2257.1Me too...DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingTue Jul 16 1991 12:1919
    
    
    
    	Tom, I'm going to "hitch-hike" on your note and ask about my 250
    watt, 125 watt per side into 4 ohms power amp.
    
    1.  What does "bridge" mean???
    
    2.  Can I wire this amp so that it's a 250 watt mono amp??
    
    3.  Can I run one side only with the other side turned down and no
    load?
    
    4.  Can I run both sides into one speaker??
    
    	Sorry about the dumb questions... I'm not getting this power amp
    stuff!
    
    Gree Vee
2257.2QuestionsGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Tue Jul 16 1991 12:5224
>    1.  What does "bridge" mean???    
    
    Bridging is a mechanism some amps provide to allow either mono or
    stereo mode.  In the bridged, or mono, mode the amp uses both sides to
    make more power.  Example:  I have a BGW 40wpc power amp which can be
    bridged to achieve 80wts mono rather then 40 watts to each channel in
    stereo.
    
>    2.  Can I wire this amp so that it's a 250 watt mono amp??
    
    Depends on the amp, many can.  Check with the maker if you don't have
    an owners manual that'll tell you.
    
>    3.  Can I run one side only with the other side turned down and no
>    load?
 
    Yes, with most solid state power amps, this is an acceptable configuration.
       
>    4.  Can I run both sides into one speaker??
 
    No.  I can't explain the techie how-to as to exactly why, but I know
    that's a good way to blow stuff up.
    
    Greg   
2257.3Your milage may varyCSC32::MOLLERFix it before it breaksTue Jul 16 1991 14:3017
>>>    3.  Can I run one side only with the other side turned down and no
>>>    load?
 
>>    Yes, with most solid state power amps, this is an acceptable configuration.
 
	Tell that to the smoking remains of my ALTEC 15's. On my Phase
	Linear 200watt per channel sterio power amp, no load = set fire
	to the other channels speakers. At least I was able to get them 
	re-coned. The amp blew out all 16 output transistors, as well
	as damaged the driver stage. It currently resides under my tape
	deck desk - I'm looking for a more trustworthy design. The speakers
	didn't seem to like 140 dc at 8 amps across an 8 ohm load.

	Be careful!!!! If it doesn't say it's ok to leave the output
	stage unloaded, don't do it!!!!

							Jens
2257.4GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Tue Jul 16 1991 16:477
    I did say "most"...
    8^)
    
    All the Peavey, Metaltronix, TubeWorks, BGW, and Biamp models I've seen
    have been this way.  
    
    Greg
2257.5KDX200::COOPEROpinionated MIDI Rack PukeWed Jul 17 1991 15:238
Yo Blues unit - (Wagaga a new one)

If there is a switch that says "Bridge/Stereo" on it, GO FOR IT !
Just watch your load.  

jc (Who fried an amp cuz he went bridged and thought he went stereo and
    had four 8 ohm speakers plugged into it...  Bummin' !)

2257.6here's one..GLOWS::COCCOLIOne size fits all...Thu Jul 18 1991 19:3617
    
    
     I recommend the QSC Mx700, a stereo Solid State Power amp that
    pushes 150 watts per side into 8 ohms. I've used it as a PA for
    my midi system, as well as a stereo guitar rig. I've also run
    keyboards in one channel and guitar in the other as well as going
    mono and using only one channel (no load on the other and the pot
    turned down). Ain't had a hitch yet.
      It's pretty lightweight as compared to other brands. 
    It does mono bridging. I haven't tried it yet, as I like stereo
    and have no need to push *that* many watts.
      Expect to pay about $425, new.
      I love it.
    
    
    RichC
    
2257.7Automatic bridgingGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Thu Jul 18 1991 19:467
    One interesting feature of the MosValve power amps from Tube Works is
    that they  automatically bridge to mono if you only have one input
    hooked up.  The lower power on is 80wpc into 8 ohms (and all sources
    say that it's an extremely conservative rating) and seem to go for
    around $400 new.
    
    Greg