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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:	GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:	Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:	KDX200::COOPER

Created:	Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3280
Total number of notes:	61432

2226.0. "More effects stuff - what do I need here?" by WELCLU::GREENB (Go Home Bible Mike) Wed Jun 05 1991 10:25

    Help, please, I am a bit of an FX virgin!
    
    At the moment, I am using a collection of borrowed effects, namely a
    couple of old distortion boxes (an MXR turned down for that edgy rhythm
    sound and a 'Big Muff' for the searing lead stuff), a Boss chorus, a
    Boss digital delay and a Schaller volume pedal. All these, apart from
    the delay unit, are mounted on  some kind of pedal board, with plugs
    and cables all over the place.
    
    Now, out of all this gear, I can get most of the sounds I am after
    (apart from I'd really like some sort of compression effect too); my
    question is - is there one box of tricks which will do some (or even
    all) of these things for me? Also, can I get hold of something that I
    can pre-program my sounds into? Finally, how much is this going to cost
    me? Presumably, I'm going to need to retain a volume pedal also.
    
    FWIW, I use a Squier Strat and Roland Super-Cube 100w amp - the amp is
    switchable, but I only use it on clean setting. I use the FX for any
    distortion I need, which tends to be either for the rocked-up rhythm
    parts or the more flowing lead lines (as opposed to speedo
    fret-shredding, which I can't do), which means I have a basic need for
    some good clean sounds but with better sustain than I get at the
    moment.
    
    Any recommendations, etc?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bob                                                             
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bob

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2226.1		WELCLU::GREENB	Go Home Bible Mike	`Wed Jun 05 1991 10:26`	4
	As you can see from the last few lines of my base note, the delay/repeat is my favourite toy!!! Bob
2226.2	Lots of Information In Other Notes	RGB::ROST	Jimmy Blanton's love child	`Wed Jun 05 1991 11:32`	19
	Bob, You should poke around the directory in here, there are quite a few notes on multi-effect units. Try doing a "dir/title=" for GP8, SGE, A5, Rack, effect, verb to get started. As for what you have now, except for the Roland GP8 and GP16 units (and maybe the Boss ME5) there are no multi-units allowing direct volume control. Some do have loops which you can patch your Schaller pedal into. The chorus and delay are easily handled by most multi boxes, but the distortions in them are often a matter of personal taste. However, the two you are using are already pretty "non-tube" sounding, so you might find something you like in a multi-box. My personal taste would be to keep the Big Muff and volume pedal, and junk the rest. Brian
2226.3	Beautiful Curve	SCOAYR::SROBERTSON		`Wed Jun 05 1991 15:36`	6
	Just a little side-line question here - anyone know why the pedal "big muff" is so called - there's a John Martyn song by that name I like - I suppose there's no connection so what does this pedal do? stuart.
2226.4	Fuzz Box!	DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE	Greee Veee King	`Wed Jun 05 1991 15:52`	9
	It's an eeeeelctro harmonix fuzz tone... I had one back in 74 and loved it! Jimi used to use them so I guess that's why they're so ummmm "vintage" and cool today. Gree Vee King
2226.5		RGB::ROST	Jimmy Blanton's love child	`Wed Jun 05 1991 15:58`	8
	Re: .3 The Martyn song postdates the pedal. I think it's a pun, as Martyn was starting to get into fuzztone use around then and also was being produced by Muff Winwood (Steve's big brother). The solo on that tune certainly could have been played through a Big Muff. Brian
2226.6		WELCLU::GREENB	Go Home Bible Mike	`Thu Jun 06 1991 07:06`	17
	Brian, You are quite correct about John Martyn - he does (or at least did) use a Big Muff. They have a quite wonderful sweet fuzz tone when the tone knob is pushed all the way towards the bass end, otherwise they can be a bit thin and scratchy. Wonderful sustain, too; only trouble is, as the sustained note starts to die, the unit tends to get noisy as you would expect I s'pose. Re my gear - I use the MXR for a kind of 'fake tube' sound - I'd like to improve on this a bit; it's quite good, but a bit thin at times, so if there's a multi-effects processor that can get nearer a tube sound I'd be interested. Thanks for the info/pointers. Bob (going into dir/tit mode)