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2175.1 | Software answer: depends | PIPPER::KELLYJ | Tone droid | Wed Apr 24 1991 09:20 | 6 |
| If you define technically ignorant as a person who has no idea what goes
on behind the front panel, then I think it's possible to remain ignorant.
If you keep at it, I don't see how you can avoid learning stuff. I
started by learning how to repair broken guitar cables and just
progressed from there.
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2175.2 | Clarification | GURU::tomg | Danger: Slow Thinker at Work | Wed Apr 24 1991 09:27 | 18 |
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I don't mean that you have to know one transistor from another, I mean
knowing about the following (short list):
o Speakers and Impedance
o Knowing what different effects do
o Active Vs. Passive electronics
o Power amp power ratings
o EQ
o Etc.
I didn't mean you need to be an EE :^)
Let me ask it another way:
What is the minimum knowledge needed?
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2175.3 | If It Sounds Good, It IS Good | IXION::ROST | Charlie Haden on Sudafed | Wed Apr 24 1991 09:58 | 20 |
| The minimum knowledge needed is that you need to understand how to get
your sound. If for example, the only thing between you getting your
sound on what you own now is getting the EQ set up properly, then
knowing how to do that is important.
The phrase "knowing what effects do" is misleading. Someone once asked
me if I could pick out what kind of effect was being used on a
recording and was surprised when I said yes (well, most of the time).
I mean, even if you don't know *how* a wah pedal works, most anybody
can *hear* one being used, right? Of course, the *first* time you hear
some new effect you may get puzzled, but once you've actually had a
chance to try one out or see one being used, it gets pretty obvious.
Besides, all effects really do is cost you $$ and mess up your tone
8^) 8^)
About the only technical thing worth knowing is how to calculate
parallel speaker impedances.
Brian
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2175.4 | | RUNTUF::PELKEY | YOIKES and AWAY!!! | Wed Apr 24 1991 11:10 | 1 |
| and it depends on your cash flow!!!!
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2175.5 | Nope... | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI | This time forever! | Wed Apr 24 1991 14:52 | 14 |
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I think the keyword here is *remain*. Generally, in "today's
music environment" (whatever that is...) I'd think that the ignoramus
would sooner or later be outclassed by someone else who understood
these things - along with being as good a player.
"Joe was a good player, but his sound always ****ed, because
he couldnt string up his cabs to save his life, didnt know _what_
to do with the graphic or compressor and insisted on using those
flat-wounds...he just never bothered to try and understand "why"!
So we replaced him with Pete, who's also a good player *and* had
his hardware act together. NOW we're sounding sharp!"
Joe
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2175.6 | JMO | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Did someone say tone? | Wed Apr 24 1991 14:57 | 7 |
| I'd say the minimum equipment knowledge would be the ability to set
your equipment up so it doesn't blow up (ie don't hook up two cabs
instead of one without resetting the impendence switch...) and how the
controls on your amp and the more common effects units affect your
sound (basically "how to get the sound you want").
Greg
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2175.7 | | DECWIN::KMCDONOUGH | Set Kids/Nosick | Wed Apr 24 1991 15:15 | 22 |
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I dunno. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone as far as guitar fxs go.
I'd probably never make it in a band when even the drummer had
rack-mount gear. 8-)
I remember a GP interview with Johnny Winter where the interviewer
asked him about the then state-of-the-art gear. Johnny replied with
words to the effect of "Don't know, they lost me after the Fender
Bassman." Boy, do I hear 'ya Johnny!
I do understand the gear I've got well enough, and I suppose that's the
bottom line. I've seen players who were controlled by the complexity
of their gear, as opposed to controlling the gear. You know the
scene...make a patch change in a song, get the wrong patch, and blow a
heavy metal hole into the middle of a C/W song. 8-)
Kevin
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2175.8 | | RAVEN1::BLAIR | Need a hot tune and a cold one | Wed Apr 24 1991 16:44 | 6 |
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If there's one thing that turns me off watching a guitarist, it's
when he/she is constantly fiddling with f/x during a song. Very
distracting, and as Kevin said, makes it look like they are controlled
by their gear. I'm a little worried about Johnny W. tho' after I saw a
picture of him with a headless Steinberger! Where'd the Fiwa-bud go?
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2175.9 | low-tech Hootchie-Koo | RICKS::CALCAGNI | The rhythm is implied | Thu Apr 25 1991 12:12 | 8 |
| The headless Winter axe, btw, is an IMC Lazer, designed and originally
marketed by Dan Erlewine of GP column fame. I read an interview where
Johnny wasn't really that excited about it, but said it was a good road
axe. Maybe he figured those Fiwa-bud's were a little too valuable to
taking on the road anymore. He still goes pretty much straight into
an old Super (or something similar).
/rick
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2175.10 | you may need a BSCS sometimes, but | GSRC::COOPER | Major MIDI Rack Puke (tm) | Thu Apr 25 1991 12:14 | 7 |
| My cut at this is:
If you own it, you'd better know it...Else you'll end up in a
fix like Pat described. Always diddling is N-F-G.
jc (Who knows his gear and doesn't diddle knobs when he plays live
- thats what rehearsal/personal time is for)
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2175.11 | | KEBLER::WSC100::COLLUM | Oscar's only ostrich oiled an orange owl today | Thu Apr 25 1991 14:02 | 17 |
| I think low tech, and I think of it more as just simplicity is where it's at,
but this caveat: As long as it gets you the sound you need.
For 99% of the stuff I play, reverb and distortion (both built into my amp) is
all I ever use. I had DSP-128+ for a couple months and really had fun with it,
but I don't think of it as my natural sound. I like the guitar straigt into
the amp. I like the crispness and natural feel of the instrument like that.
It feels to me like its closer to an acoustical instrument in tone and
dynamics.
I also don't chase the "sound of the record" very much. I have a certain sort
of sound that appeals to me; I just use variations of it to mix it up during a
set. I try to sound like me, I guess, not the record so much.
Lo tech works for me,
Will
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2175.12 | Wood. | SMURF::BENNETT | Retro Rockets | Fri Apr 26 1991 19:42 | 13 |
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Even in the acoustic world there's mountains of techical
detail. Fortunately you aint gotta learn it all in one gulp.
I personally beleive that all you really need to know is
(like said earlier) is how to use the stuff you got. For the
garden variety techno-phobe, this may mean that a $200 wooden
guitar is the place to start.
Minimally you have to know how to change strings and how to
not get ripped off buying gear. A good guitar teacher can teach
the former and one good lesson from one of your local stores
cal teach the latter.
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