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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2173.0. "Build or Buy Effects ??" by PIRATE::SIMON (Just inother Simon) Tue Apr 23 1991 15:59

    I searched through all the old notes on effect boxes, pedals
    etc. and didn't find anything on building your own.
    
    What I'd like to know is have any of you built your own and
    what is your advice towards building or buying.
    
    Thanks for your input in advance.
    
    Justin
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2173.1GSRC::COOPERMajor MIDI Rack Puke (tm)Tue Apr 23 1991 17:426
    I built a ring modulator, and a metronome.
    
    My advise ?  Let Boss build 'em.  Between sweat and blood and parts
    costs, you don't really save much at all.
    
    jc
2173.2Not worth the effort in most casesTRAM::BBOLDTTue Apr 23 1991 18:188
    When I was in college we had to do a thesis to get our B.S. .  A friend
    of mine built an effects processor for his thesis.  It was programmable
    and consisted of distortion, chorus, flange, delay and maybe a couple
    of others.  He put a lot of time and money into it.  Anyways, the end
    result was okay but nothing compared to what you could buy.  I don't
    think he cared though he was just glad to graduate.
    
    Byron
2173.3PIPPER::KELLYJTone droidWed Apr 24 1991 09:0216
    I've built a few toys: preamp, equalizers, a ring modulator, and 
    a noise gate.  Like the previous replies state, if you're out to 
    save money you probably won't.  The biggest pain in the rear is 
    getting parts.
    
    If you want to use building toys as a means to learn about electronics,
    then I think it's a great way to go.  
    
    Craig Anderton, formerly a _Guitar Player_ columnist (I think he's
    got a column for a new rag called _EQ_) has a couple of books out
    on toys.
    
    Oh, there's another avenue that might still be open: PAIA, a company
    in Oklahoma City, offers (offered?) kits for a lot of stuff.  I built
    their 'humbucking reverb' and it is a fine sounding unit.  I haven't
    seen their ads recently, so perhaps they went under.
2173.4PAIAIXION::ROSTCharlie Haden on SudafedWed Apr 24 1991 10:037
    PAIA is still around.  They have a few stomp box kits (distortion,
    compressor, octave divider, envelope following filter, noise gate) and
    some rack mount things like the Hot Springs Reverb, dual limiter, and
    an *analog* chorus/flanger.  
    
    They sell Craig Anderton's project books and some parts that are hard
    to find elsewhere.  Call 405-843-9626 for a catalog.
2173.5Better off buying...ELESYS::JASNIEWSKIThis time forever!Wed Apr 24 1991 15:0814
      	It depends on what you want to build. If it's your own distortion
    box with a stomp switch, you will get something a little different
    sounding than a Proco RAT for about the same $40 invested...
    
    	If it's an ADA MP-1 with the MIDI interface and the bazillion
    presets, I'd say...you will have earned enough money by the time
    you get past home-building just the MIDI part to go out and buy one.
    
    	One of those belt-buckle programmable multi-effects boxes with
    the LDC readouts? You CANT build one of those yourself...the technology
    is beyond assembly with a hand-held soldering iron.
    
    	Joe
2173.6Flux sniffers unite !TRUCKS::LITTENFri Apr 26 1991 11:1432
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>        It depends on what you want to build. If it's your own distortion
>    box with a stomp switch, you will get something a little different
>    sounding than a Proco RAT for about the same $40 invested...
>    

Hi,

	From my experience, I agree that you put in a little time and save a 
little dough, but other than that...go out and buy one. Particularly if you do 
not have too much experience in soldering.

Things like flangers, echo units etc using special chips, you tend to find the 
companies like BOSS have got it down in terms of quality and cost. An example 
would be a boss echo costs about 40/50 pounds here in the UK. Build something
similar including case and you are talking about 30 pounds.

There are exceptions and I find them to be sustain/fuzz units. These are all 
in the quality of the design and the best ones are simple.

I have copied the Marshal Guv'nor pedal and the bits came to about 3 pounds.
(about five dollars).
I stuffed it into an old footpedal case and it sounds identical to the real 
thing. Took me one evening to throw it together....worked first time.

You pays yer money 'n takes yer choice....

Good luck,

Dave