Conference napalm::guitar

    
    Another one to add to the list is the full (micro) stack Dean Markley
    although, it does not look like it would be comfortable to hitch to 
    your belt or back pocket.  It is also priced comparably to the models
    you mentioned.  To be honest, I just pointed to the little guy and
    said "Wrap it up!".  I was trying to throw some business to my local
    shop that day.
    
    

	Can you give a review?  Do you like it?  Have you ever compared it with
others?

    
    	Nope, but I have lessons tonight (at the shop) and I'll try to 
    	remember to A/B the Dean Markley to the MS-2.  Boy, will I be 
    	pissed if I like the DM better!  I noticed if I get close enough
    	to the MS-2, it will feedback like Carlos' rig!.
    
    	(heh heh heh)
    	-pat
    
    

I've seen the Marshall, Dean Marckely and ROKAX ones..

The RokAx didn't seem worth more than $5.00




One of my sons freinds has the Marshal one.. It was alright,, I'd
prefer a rockman thou...

	I found a place locally that had the Fender (MA10?), the Dean Markley
and the M-word (8^) micro amps.  The store rep pulled them out and gave me a 
minimal opportunity to hear them (he didn't want to let me play the guitar for
some reason - it wasn't anything special, either).

	First of all, the cosmetics.  The Fender was the worst to look at - it 
had no imagination like the others.  It looked like something you'd buy at any 
five-and-dime.  The Dean Markley was the middle-liner.  It looks like a two cab 
stack with head on top.  It still was plain plastic, but at least it looked
nice.  Of course, it was the largest of the three because of this and as was
alluded to before, it would be less desirable to clip on your belt (although I
believe it had a belt clip).  The M-word amp was the nicest looking, mainly
due to the attempt to make it look like a real miniature stack, grill cloth 
and all.

	The Dean Markley, I'm sorry to say, sounded the worst.  It could be 
that it needed new batteries or something, I don't know.  It had terrible 
speaker distortion even on the clean setting.  The Fender held the middle ground 
here, but it was not that much worse than the m-word version.  They were pretty
close, and if price were a factor, it'd be enough to steer me to the MS2.
The MS2 sounded best, especially when cranked full tilt (but that's what tiggers
do best).

	Price wise, the Fender was the cheapest, which is why I said above that 
it could be the MS2's main competition.  Now, understand that here in Missouri,
everybody puts full list price on music equipment.  You can talk them down to
just about what New England stores *start* price bidding at, but it takes some
work.  Anyway the prices for these units were:

	Fender MA10	-	$39.95
	Dean Markley	-	$49.95
	M-word MS2	-	$49.95

	The main thing I was disappointed in finding was that the distortion 
setting was preset.  I have a GHS headphone amp that I got real cheap and even 
it allows variable distortion.  I woulda thunk it not too big a deal to have it 
in one of these buggers.

	I'd still like to hear other units, too.  They're probably all built by
the same manufacturer, though, so its probably a mute point.  

	Dan

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    Nope Dan, twasn't the batteries...i was going to mention a few replies
    back how HORRID that Dean Markley "stack" sounded...mega-aack!
    
    B.

    Yo Dan, those prices are *outrageous*!  Even around Colorado Springs
    (not known for it's extensive music market) you can do a lot better
    then that!  
    
    You saw where someone put in the $29.95 Music Emporium price on the
    MS-2 right?  And Musicians Friend has it for like $34.95.
    
>	The main thing I was disappointed in finding was that the distortion 
>setting was preset.  I have a GHS headphone amp that I got real cheap and even 
>it allows variable distortion.  I woulda thunk it not too big a deal to have it 
>in one of these buggers.
    
    But on the Marshall, it *is* variable, you do it with the volume
    control, just like on one of their big non-master-volume heads.  The OD
    setting brings it on sooner, but you can still roll off the guitar
    volume and get it to clean up in that setting.  You can also get it to
    distort nicely on the "clean" setting by cranking the volume up!
    
    gh                                                              

    I bet Marshall is makin' a killin' off that little guy!  It must cost
    all of $8 to build ;-)
    
    Mike

        Re:              <<< Note 2107.8 by PNO::HEISER "where roses grow" >>>

        Let me take yours apart and we'll cost out the parts 8^)...

>    I bet Marshall is makin' a killin' off that little guy!  It must cost
>    all of $8 to build ;-)
    
    Probably not that much...

    
    	Yeah, the DM sucked when I tried it last night too!  Even the 
    	clean channel rattled like crazy.  They said it was dropped.  
    	Also, it had no tone control - and WE MUST HAVE TONE CONTROL!!!!!   
    	It also felt cheesy, whereas the MS-2 feels better put together.  
    	This is a nit, but the headphone jack on the MS-2 is a 1/4", which
    	would require an adapter for "walkman" style headphones.  No biggie,
    	in my opinion, cuz I don't like all them damn cords dangling from
    	my ears when I'm trying to be a mobile Pete Townsend in the house.
    	My only real complaint on the MS-2 is that the clean channel is 
    	kinda mild. (You know, they could definitely benefit by having 
    	separate EQ for both settings, I don't know why Marshall doesn't 
    	do it!)
    
    	yuk yuk,
    	-pat
    
    	

    But, Marshall gear has *perfect* eq .... seems to me that they waste 3
    perfectly good knobs by putting bass/mid/treble on their heads ... they
    could just set it from the factory and everyone would be happy !   8^)
    
    Scary (who has eq on his washing machine ...)

    Here's an Idea,
    
    	Use a Rockman as a front end into a M2 for the ultimate belt RIG.
    Or if you want to go hi-tech use one of the ZOOM processors into am M2.
    
    Now your playing with fire.
    
    Brian 

    
    	Naw, I have all my foot pedal effects slung on 2 belts (Bandito
    	style!).  When I need a new sound, I body-slam my chest into
    	a wall and voil�!  This with the MS-2 is a great, portable combo.
    	I may add a second MS-2 (one on each back pocket) for stereo.

    You guys missed it - Pat gave me a demonstration of how this rig would
    work ... most excellent !
    
    Scary