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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2053.0. "Solid Black Electrics" by PSYLO::WILSON (All of Paris giggles with flags...) Fri Dec 07 1990 10:39

    Was solid black ever used in the 1950's or 1960's on electric guitars? 
    
    A friend of mine claims that solid black only started in the 1970's. 
    
    Any famous musicians fond of black guitars? How about you? 
    
    Wes
    
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2053.1PELKEY::PELKEYLife, a state of cluster transitionFri Dec 07 1990 11:4810
I always wanted a black, Strat and les paul, but settled for one
strat that was sunburst, and one that's candy apple red,,
on the 'paul, I bought  a gold top instead...

I like the looks of em.  My buddy Wayne has a black washburn
that looks really cool...

My favorite finishes though are the wood grain finishes...


2053.2ICS::BUCKLEYand he shall reign for ever and everFri Dec 07 1990 11:581
    I never liked black guitars for some reason.
2053.3Smodge-podge...GSRC::COOPERMIDI Rack PukeFri Dec 07 1990 12:104
    I never did either.  I had a couple and MAN were they a pain to 
    keep clean !  Every little smudge shows on black...
    
    jc
2053.4DPE::STARRSRV......I can't believe you're gone....Fri Dec 07 1990 13:238
I always thought that those black Les Pauls looked really cool! 

I'm pretty sure that they made black Les Pauls in the late 60s, but it might
have been the very early 70s. If you look at the cover of Humble Pie's 
'Rocking The Fillmore' album, you'll see Peter Frampton with a black LP. Check 
when that album was released, and it might answer your question....

alan
2053.5AQUA::ROSTStevie Ray FretnoiseFri Dec 07 1990 13:445
    You guys are joking, right?  Black Les Pauls go back to the 1950s, 57
    or so.  The first Customs were all black.  The one Frampton played in
    Pie was a 50's model.
    
    							Brian  
2053.6RICKS::CALCAGNIthis must be the best batch yetFri Dec 07 1990 14:324
    Yeah, I think '54 was actually the year black LP Customs were
    introduced.  Rickenbacker made a black bakelite electric back
    in the late 30's; good like finding one, but they also made black
    lap steels that aren't too tough to find.
2053.7Black Strats look better in the shade LEDS::BURATIFri Dec 07 1990 15:2117
Fender has offered black as a custom color since '56 or 7. I have a 
1965 Stratocaster that I recently refinished in black (nitrocellulous lacquer).
I think it looks great. Maybe it doesn't seem to show finger prints much 
because lacquer has a lower luster than the modern high-gloss polyester
finishes used today.

BTW, in case you're wondering:
I bought this guitar new in '66, never liked the sunburst on it that 
much, goofed up the finish in '68, subsequently did a bad jobs of refinishing
it several times in the '70s. I'm finally very happy with the finish. Since
I'll never sell the instrument, I don't really care that it doesn't have the
original finish. It plays great, sounds great and now looks great. Ballgame.

I've thought black Stratocasters look great ever since I first saw a picture
of Hendrix playing Monterey in a photo-spread of the festival in a teen
magazine in '67. The photographer later worked assignments for Rolling Stone
which published these pictures again a few years ago.
2053.8Neil's LPESKIMO::AUSTINSat Dec 08 1990 09:003
    Isn't Neil Young's black Les Paul a '57?
    
    Alan
2053.9RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEJoke 'em if they can't take a ...Mon Dec 10 1990 02:357
    I love black guitars ... I had a Les Paul custom in the 70's ... a
    Kramer Focus 3000, currently with a American Standard Strat and
    scamming for another Les Paul ... all of 'em black.  Sure, they attract
    smudges, but, like black car (got one of them too ...) they are
    GORGEOUS when they're clean ...   8^)
    
    Scary (who likes all his toys in black ...)
2053.10Black is old hat !!MILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetMon Dec 10 1990 09:0719
    I'm pretty sure that black was even used on a few acoustics as far
    back as the 50's. Didn't Gibson offer J-200's in black back in the
    60's or even 50's ? I believe the Everly brothers used black guitars
    way back.
    
    The thing I like about my Sunburst Strat is that it is black around
    the entire sides and fades into a nice honey-colored wood grain in 
    the center. 
    
    The musical instrument world, in some ways, reflects what's happening
    in the automotive world. I believe the custom colors that Fender began
    using were popular colors in the automotive world first. In the early
    to mid 60's metal-flake paint first started to appear on cars, and
    soon it was everywhere. At one time Ford only made Model A's in one
    color...Black. If people wanted a model A in a differant color, they
    had to have it repainted by a body shop.
    
    Mark
    
2053.11even olderRANGER::WEBERMon Dec 10 1990 09:233
    Some of Orville Gibson's guitars were black--circa 1890!!!
    
    Danny W,
2053.12SALEM::ABATELLII don't need no stinkin' BoogieTue Dec 11 1990 17:3130
    
    
    This very I'm moment I'm *looking* right at a black 1955 Fender 
    Stratocaster!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    					
    
    
    
    			...ofcourse it's a "picture" of a 1955 Strat.
    HEY SANTA! Can I add one more thing to my xmas list???   ;^)
    
    				Rock on,
    					Fred
2053.13same picture??????GIDDAY::KNIGHTPTue Dec 11 1990 20:196
    yeah!!
         I got a picture of Howard Reed (rythmn guitarist for Gene Vincent)
    playing a custom Black 55 strat.  But I think the black was a custom 
    color.
    P.K.
    
2053.14Kinks and black Les Paul customDPDMAI::WOODSLThu Dec 20 1990 11:598
    Dave Davies of the Kinks has played with a black Les Paul custom. 
    Currently, he plays with a Fender telecaster.  The cover of the
    Live Kinks from about 1967 shows his with a black Les Paul, and
    I've seen videos from as late as 1984 or so where he's using
    a black Les.
    
    By the way, I own a black Les custom, and love it.  I don't really
    have any problems with smudges.
2053.15love that stealthburger, thoughLNGBCH::STEWARTIt's not broke! It's, uh, modular!Thu Dec 20 1990 12:1614
       
       
       
       
       
       re: smudges - Depends on the finish, I guess...  plastic doesn't
       seem to smudge up as much...and a black axe doesn't attract as
       much attention.  Plastic does seem to generate more of a static
       charge, which in turn collects dust...
       
       
       
       
       
2053.16fwiwICS::BUCKLEYand he shall reign for ever and everThu Dec 20 1990 13:522
    When I saw the kinks, Dave Davis was using a LP Artisan (sp?),
    which is like a natural walnut finish.
2053.17FREEBE::REAUMECrunch Factory LTDThu Dec 20 1990 14:0211
    
       ...latest round of GTS.
    
       ...Dear Santa-
            I would like all the components to build a strat-like
       guitar. I'd like it in black, one pickup in the bridge, one 
       volume control, a Floyd, a compound radius neck and to top 
       it off one of those red smoked mirror pickguards.
            I think that would look killer!
    
    					  	-B()()M-
2053.18Can't complain!GOES11::G_HOUSEJoin the Brotherhood of ToneThu Dec 20 1990 16:049
    Yo Boom, sounds kind of similar to the Strat-style parts guitar I
    bought not long ago.  Black, white pickguard, Warmoth birdseye maple
    neck and fretboard (didn't actually measure to see if it's a compound
    radius, it could be), EMGs (hum/single/single).  Only thing missing is
    the Floyd (and it looks like it had one before)...
    
    Looks, sounds, and plays great (and I got it for a song...)!
    
    Greg