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       I found that the Dunlop Tortex picks last the longest! I've tried
    many others and have found those to be mostly inferior for my needs.
    I had a local music store order me the "orange" (don't remember the
    guage) ones. They direct-ordered the picks because the distributors
    didn't even carry them.  I use these picks for bass.
       I found that no matter what kind of nylon picks I use, they seem 
    to break all too soon. RIP Tortois shells...
    
    JOhn

    I use the yellow Dunlop Tortex jobs ... .73mm
    
    I *never* break 'em ... as a matter of fact, unless I lose one, I never
    have to replace 'em.  I just like the feel of "new" picks, so before
    every gig I'll go buy 8 or so and use a diffetent one on every set. 
    Hey, I work at DEC, I can afford to spend big bucks !   Wagagaga 
    
    
    Scary ...

    
    I LOVE, and swear by the Dunlop Jazz III picks...they roool!!!
    
    I'll use Jazz II's if the III's are no where to be found, but the III's
    have the sharp point on em that give a super-focused attack.
    
    I turned all my students onto these picks, now none of us can play with
    anything else!  ;^)

    I use Ernie Ball mediums (none of these funny shapes either), either
    the btight pink or bright yellow ones so I can see the b*ggers when I
    drop 'em.
    
    Bob

    
    re:3    I'm with buck, I started using Jazz III's a couple of 
                           years ago, and now I can never go back.
                           And thats the way it was, and I like it
                           that way.( said in the voice of the old man
                                      on the Saterday Night Live news)
            
                 The Jazz III Red or Black Attack.
                                                         Mark.

    Now I'm the strange one...
    
    I also use Dunlop tortex...But mine are Shark fins...I'll describe if
    necessary.  I use the blue ones (1.0mm) on my metal-type-guitars, and 
    orange ones on my LesPaul (.73mm?).
    
    Anyway, I've used Shark fins for about 6 yearrs, so I'm kinda in love
    with the versatility they introduce.
    
    jc

    Yeah Coop, I remember once I went into Mr. C's to buy you some, and
    the dudes there were like "You USE these things?!?!?" and I was like
    "No WAY dudes, they're for a friend, really!"
    
    B.

    Woah!  Funny to hear about so many others using the Jazz IIIs.  That's
    the size/shape I use and it seems like everyone I know gives me a lot
    of flack about 'em.
    
    I've been using the Dunlop heavy Tortex Jazz picks for quite awhile now
    and love them.  I like the smaller shape and the Tortex material lasts
    virtually forever.  That's not a big deal since I've never broken a
    pick in my life, but I tore up the edges of the plastic picks I used to
    use (Fender heavys) a lot.  I also like the texture on the Tortex
    picks.
    
    I used the Jazz IIIs before going to the Tortex version of the same
    thing and liked them a lot, maybe better then the Tortex ones.  Problem
    was that I couldn't FIND them anywhere.  Musicians Friend has the
    Tortex version for $2.00 a dozen and I figured at that price with good
    availability like that, those would do.  
    
    Here's a tip for you Jazz III users.  Take a piece of fairly fine
    sandpaper and angle the flat sides of the pick slightly around the tip
    so that the point is pointed from all four directions.  If you taper
    this in, it gives the pick a real streamlined shape and it flows on the
    strings a little better.  Not that *I'm* a real speed picker or
    anything, but it even helped me a little, so some of you string burners
    might see a little improvement.  It only takes a minute to try it.
    
    Greg

    For electric guitar, I use a pick called "Hotlicks", it's made out of
    copper.  They come in gauges....sheesh, I think I'm using .009s???
    
    They don't wear out, and they're great for harmonics.  On an acoustic,
    they're too much. 
    
    They may be no longer made, I bought a package of six about five years
    ago, I'm still on my first one...!!!
    
    							Brian

    I've got a couple of stainless steel picks too that I like to
    use when I want that real heavy metal sound...
    
    Killer pick slides too, but they'll trach your strings.
    
    jc

      I 've used the metal picks before and had a concern about the
    metal shavings and string muching. Nice hard attack though...
    
        /J

	I was using the green dunlop tortex jazz-style picks for a while.
	I like the small size but changed to these black heavy ones
	with the Gibson logo on 'em. They're much harder to see than
	the green ones but they don't warp like the tortex ones do.

I happen to be fairly fussy about picks.


I use the small jazz (medium thickness) picks.. 

Mostly Fenders, but the make really don't matter, however the thinkness
tends to vary fmro the different manufactures.

I've used these picks for what seems an eternity.


I use traditional size guitar picks too, but very rarely, and even then,
only with acoustic.  (when they're handy, and the other picks are in
the next room..)

For me the small picks allow me the best attack and harmonic capabilities.

A regular size pick in my hand feels like a throw pillow.

    That's right, I should have mentioned that the Tortex Jazz picks always
    seem to warp.  I actually kind of like the warp, since it kind of wraps
    around your finger a little bit.  It doesn't seem to affect the tip.
     
    I've used the green ones (medium) too, but prefer the heavier pink
    ones.
    
    Greg

    
    There's another Dunlop pick out that is the same size as Jazz picks
            but there made out of some kind of clear purple plastic kinda
            sorta stuff, when I first used them I liked them but then 
            the pick started to wear away and created an edge that kept
            on getting caught on the 1,2,3, strings. Cool looking but
            they were trash bait.
                                                          Mark

    -1
    
    No way...I tried one of those last week, and said to myself "these
    almost rool as much as the III's"  ...glad I stuck to my guns and
    didn't buy a bunch.

    
    
       I've used Dunlop .43's for the last eight years. Them is *real* thin.
  
     String breaks pick before pick breaks string. Which would you change?.
    
    
    
    
    RichC
            
                                     
     

    I feel odd talking about picks, not amps, but I use Fender Heavy(s),
    but my fave-rave is a old Gretsch Heavy.  I'd love to find a few 
    more.   And to me different, i love my yellow med size picks from
    Mojo Guitars in NYC, that say "Eat me" on them......
    
    Jay Tashjian
    

    I used to use Gibson heavy picks but found they were prone to cracking
    and splitting after a while.Now I use Charvel .72.And if I feel like a 
    change I use the Steve Vai or Matt Bisonette(sp)picks I got from when
    DLR played Edinburgh.......prefer the bass pick,though.
    
    
     
             pick your strings or pick your nose.
    
                                      STAYNZ               
    
    

    I use Fender mediums mostly but when I really want to get a
    Heavy Metal/Rock tone, I use copper picks
                                       Jon

    I don't really care for the sound of a pick slide from a Tortex
    pick.  Anybody know what I mean ?  While it totally destroys say,
    a Fender medium, it sure sounds good.  Tortex is no good for dat !
    
    cj

    
    
       What about good hardened finger nails? *8^)

I've decided the *only* pick for me are those thick blue tortex jobs.  I think
they're around .9 mm...  I spent one summer trying all different kinds of picks 
and those are the ones that won out.  G_HOUSE even talked me into trying one of
those jazz III's, but they don't hack it for me.

Odd, I don't like the tortex picks after a while; they have a better feel when 
new.   Must be planned obsolesence.

re: -.1  Coop, if you'd just get an amp with a little gain, those tortex pick 
slides will scrape J. off your wall! :)

    Blue Dunlop Tortex is 1.0mm I think.
    
    An amp with a little gain ?
    
    Wagagagagagagagaa...You need to hear my monster rig now !
    
    jc (Insane Gain!)

    I use the green and yellow tortex's
    
    with respect to pick slides or scratches...I stopped using those a long
    long time ago...but you're right tortex isn't what a fender thin or
    medium is it you're gonna do it.
    
    dbii

    
    Yellow tortex for this kid.
    
    J.
    
    PS  Hurry up and scrape me off the wall already!!!
    8*)

    Has anyone used/abused/loved/hated the M'ind pick, made of stone?
    
    Jay
    

    
    Take your pick out of these .. (barf barf)
    
    Fender Mediums for electric and steel picks for acoustic.
    
    -Tony (who hates to admit this but has never even seen a Jazz III
           pick!)

I know a bass player who uses the most on Godly picks u could
ever see.

HUGE, THICK, BLACK TRIANGLES,, about 2 inches big...

You could easily shim window sashes and door jams with these babies.

This dude would go through E and G strings (yup E strings) with reckless
abadon.  Piped the whole shootin match through a couple of SVTs with
a V4B head..  Crucified anyone who walked within 10 feet of him!

Now that was a pick, - that was a pick...  Also doubled as a windsheild scraper,
putty knife,,,  


			"1,000 home or office uses.."

    re :.27
    
    I have a couple of M'ind picks. They produce a very soft, attack-less
    sound that I don't find appealing.
    
    I also still own a half-dozen real tortoiseshell picks from the early
    sixties. Despite the hype about Tortex, nothing I have ever used
    compares to these for a stiffness to thickness ratio. I used to use
    them for playing surf music--they produce an incredibly strong sound
    with little effort.
    
    Being socially responsible, I use Fender Heavy picks instead. I buy
    about two gross a year--I hate it when they lose their edge.
    
    Danny W.

    I've owned a M'ind pick.  I used it for a week, didn't really like it...
    But didn't mean to drop it in the concrete, where it shattered
    into dozens of baby M'ind picks.  ;)  I never replaced it.    

    Another pick worth mention is the Stylus pick...can't use it, really,
    but a few hours on the thing and you ARE Paul Gilbert!
    
    B.

    I just bought a couple Jazz III's ... we'll se how they go ...  8^)
    
    
    Scary

    
    
    
    	I use the same pick dbii uses.. tortex green.. cool color cool
    sound, plus I'm a dbii zombie and like to copy anything he does anyway!

    Yo grevie, you have surely earned a better title than dbii_zombie.
    
    I hereby nominate you to be Dr. Frets
    
    For those of you who don't know, Steve has become quite expert at fret
    leveling and dressing, and for us fortunate few he's very very
    reasonable in his rates. To date he's reworked three necks to my great
    satisfaction. 
    
    dbii

Isn't it "Min'd" instead of "M'ind"?  ...like a cutesy, double entendre 
spelling of mined.

Bob

    Does anyone else remember the ad for the Min'd pick ? I seem to
    remember them claiming "the fastest guitar player in the world uses
     the min'd pick" and they had a picture of ?? in the ad.
    
                                                 Gonzo

    -1
    
    Yeah, NOONE ever knew who that dude was!!
    ;^)

    I thought that ad featured "Ronnie Montrose".
    
    Mark

    buzz---wrong answer- 
     It was some semi-bald noname

  <<buzz---wrong answer- 
  <<   It was some semi-bald noname



ahhhhh  Edd Cote ????????????

     I remember tring to forget those ads.....
    
     Me thinks the nobody's name was John Dougherty or something like
    that. The ad said he was the fastest nose picker around. B-}.
    
     Stylus Pick? yes - great for practice
     My pick? - standard (usually D'Andrea or Phantom) medium heavy!
     M'ind pick? never seen one except in ads
    
     I'd like to try one of those copper picks, but not sure how the
    strings will handle it.
    
    						-bOOm-
     

    I tried one of those copper picks out once...sounded really bright,
    I didn't like it!  Then I went for one of thoe Buckley pick harmonics
    and sliced my G string in two.  So much for using THAT pick!!!
    
    B

    I'd like to try a copper pick, but I'm too afraid to scratch my 
    guitars up with em.
    
    I have tons of differant types of picks at home (mostly heavy normal 
    shape, ie: Fender heavy). The only differances I find between plastic 
    picks, and nylon, is that the plastic picks tend to crack and break 
    (after years of abuse) and the nylon ones seem to last forever. Nylon 
    picks tend to have a little grip built onto them which makes them 
    easier to hold onto. Years ago there were picks with little cork rings 
    to hold onto, and some others with a small hole drilled in the middle
    also designed to prevent dropping em.
    
    I don't make a really big deal over guitar picks but I like em rigid.
    
    Mark
    
    

    
    A vote (or another vote) for Dunlop Nylon (.60's).
    
    -pat
    

    I like to use rusty tin can tops. They're murder on the guitar's finish
    and strings though.
    
    Ray, I'll demo the technique for you on your MC400...
    
    Bald_Edd

 <<Ray, I'll demo the technique for you on your MC400...
   

Just your luck Edd,,,  I had it bronzed!


I slay me! 

    Re: string wear with copper picks
    
    Man, what gauge strings do you use?  I've used copper picks for years
    now and I haven't changed the strings on my Silvertone in *nine years*,
    and in three years that I owned a Peavey changed the high E string
    once.  And I do plenty of harmonics...back home we undereducated
    pickers called 'em "squealers".
    
    						Brian

I like the Dunlop black nylons - 1mm, I think (heavy).  They also have a 
series that's made from harder nylon so it's stiffer.

I sometimes make grips for my picks by dipping the grip end into that liquid 
rubber kinda stuff that's sold mainly for rubberizing tool handles.  Works
pretty well, but causes me to change my technique in subtle ways.  Don't know 
if I like it or not.

Bob

    I've been experimenting with the Jazz III pick lately ... takes a
    little getting used to, but the size certainly makes for faster
    playing.  General strumming is where the biggest change is.  I'm
    working on it ...   8^)
    
    Scary

    I'm tellin ya Scary...
    
    Just what the dude who turned me onto em said..."yeah, they're weird
    at first, but keep with it...you'll be hooked in no time, and won't
    EVER be able to go back"
    
    I'll back that statement, as will Cheryle West (anotehr DECcie git 
    player)...
    
    B

Ok, ok, ok!  Maybe I missed it last time.  I'm going to give the 'ole jazz III
another chance.  For 2 weeks I promise not to use anything but jazz III's (I've
got to go buy a couple unless Greg wants to hand some over the cube wall!).  If
I can't get used to 'em in two weeks, I can't get used to them.

I'll post my results in +2 weeks or so.

steve (whos_doing_this_because_he_suspects_Buck_knows_what_he's_talking_about)

    Last night a bought a bunch of new picks to experiment with. I bought
    some Jazz III, some of the picks that look like shark fins, and some
    little thick picks called "stubby". The "Stubby's" are only available
    in 1mm, 2mm, and 3mm. The guy in the store said they were like a nylon
    version of the old "Stone" picks. I've never seen anything as thick
    and rigid as these little babies (except maybe those horrid felt picks
    used on autoharp).
    
    I guess I better update my list in note 47   ;^)
    
    Mark

    Wow Mark, your te only one I know of who'll even try the
    Shark Fins.... ;)
    
    I like the knubby edge for that "Annihilator" sound
    (crunch-crunch-crunch) and the regular edge for those pick-harmonics.
    
    jc

    I bought em because they look cool, of course 8*)
    
    Besides, some day my pick collection may be worth big bucks !!
    I've got "pre-CBS" Fender picks at home, and some "pre-Norlin"
    Gibson picks, as well as some "pre-war" Martin Picks. 
    
    If anyone is interested, I'm asking $4.5k for the pre-cbs Fender
    pick, $8.8k for the Gibson pick, and $10k for the pre-war martin
    pick (It's herringbone!!).
    
    *Serious* inquiries only !!!
    
    They just don't make 'em like they used to !!
    
    Mark
    
    Many   ;^)
    

      
    Well, I'd be very interested in the pre-war Martin herringbone pick,
    but I'm saving right now for a pre-Big Bang pick - I saw a guy who has
    a whole collection of them; they're made of imploding hydrogen, and you
    have to be careful not to get sucked into them, but they look very
    cool...
    
    Charlie

    	I'll take Dunlop Tortise 2.0mm!!! The purple pick and file the
    edges down for the  Harmonics O' DooM !! 
                                           \
    Pierre who Prefers the Purple Pick....B^)
                                           /  

    Well, I've purchased my first three Jazz III's (appropriate eh ?).
    I'll play around with them over the weekend and let y'all know what 
    I think.  This is a big step for someone who's been using huge Shark
    Fins for as long as I have...
    
    Now, I expect some of you to try Shark Fins...'Specially you metalic
    players...
    
    ;')

re -.1  And, due to the same music store trip, I'm finally stocked with one (1)
jazz III; not-quite-donated by the HouseMan.  So, I'm off to my two weeks of
woodsheding....   .. Or, is that woodshredding :)

    
    Yo, Coop.  I useta use those "shark-fins" religiously untill last 
    year.  My instructor tried to get me away from those into those
    Jazz picks(ones greg uses), and we came to a compromise.  Those 
    yello Dunlops are all I use now.
    
    For pick slides, tho, there's nothing better than those
    "shark-fins"!!!
    
    J.

I played using one of those hot licks picks for a long time. Cut more than one
finger on 'em I'll tell you. Years of filing honed a razor sharp edge for
committing surgery upon thy axe and digits.

Besides, it was beginning to feel like playing air guitar with the thing.

Now I use fender mediums and there's nothing better than a deep stroke.

								John.

    
    My favorite pick is Fender Xtra-Heavy, except it's a little to 
    big. Anybody know of an xtra-heavy pick that is a little smaller
    than the standard Fender pick. I remember the little Fender teardrops
    but those only go up to 'heavy'. 
    
    Another thing: It could be my imagination, but the ole' Fender extra
    heavy isn't as heavy as it used to be. They must be trying to save
    money by using a little less (very little!) plastic. Thought I 
    wouldn't notice. ... ;-|
    
    	Phil
    

    Phil,
    
    The Jazz III's described herein are pretty chunky, but are small 
    in size...
    
    jc

    Bingo***** I just got 3 more copper picks at lunch time!! The guy
     at the counter said the Company "Hot Licks" stopped making them
     some time last year.
    
                                              Gonzo
    
    whocantwaittogethomeanddohisbillygibbonspicksqueels!!

    
    Anybody know a distributer for those Jazz III picks for the UK ?
    
    -Tony (who'll try anything to increase his picking)

    -1
    
    Dude...HA!  I wish I knew a distributor in the US!
    
    Buck, who loves em, but they're like no-where to be found out here!

    
    8^)
    
    Rare as rocking horse droppings eh ?

Ok, trial period's over.  I've been using Jazz III's for a few weeks now
(lots of hours on them due to the holidays!) and I like 'em better than anything
I've used previously.

I'm hooked, never to go back to those *huge* blue tortex thingys I used to use.

FWIW: I noticed that alternate picking improved fairly quickly.  However, at
first I was frustrated with sweep picking techniques.  I couldn't get those
little picks to sweep nice-n-neat.  But that came with a few more hours of use.

It's hard to explain exactly what I like better about these picks.  It has to do
with their "feel" when picking across the strings.  Part of it has to do with 
the material they're made of, which likes to glide across the strings rather 
than getting "hung up". 

I don't think I can pick any faster with these picks, but I do feel as though
my (alternate) picking is more accurate.  I tend to be less tense during very
challenging passages, etc.  And that's got to be good for technique in general.

Try 'em you'll like 'em.

steve, who now uses jazz III's exclusively.

    
    Geez, I even tried 'em out (jazz picks) and I've got to admit that it 
    seems to help my alternate picking too.  Like Jerry said, they look 
    like throat lozenges, but EJ (in his video) uses small stubbies, so
    it must be cool ;^).  Also, EJ says that it reduces pick noise because
    of the smoother, rounded edges.  After a few times, they even felt
    good.  I didn't think I could use 'em for chordin', but I was wrong.
    
    -pat

    What a frenzy.
    
    After re-reading all the previous replies, I still have one unanswered
    question:
           Where do will I have a good chance of getting a Dunlop Jazz III
           in the Eastern Mass area?
    
    Thanks,
       Steph

    Sheesh, I bought three Jazz III's... Of those three
    my dog ate one, my wife washed the other two, and of those two
    one was melted inthe heating element of the dryer and I lost the other 
    one...
    
    BUT... I'm going to ProSound tomorrow so I'll get some more.
    Perhaps I can get some for you poor folks in Mass with no connection
    for Jazz III's ??
    
    jc (Who still thinks they're too small for his clumsy fingers)

   Are the Dunlop Jazz III's anything like the Fender teardrop jazz
   picks?

   -- Sam (who, all this time, thought it was "FENDER Jazz III"...)

>   Are the Dunlop Jazz III's anything like the Fender teardrop jazz
>   picks?
    
    Not really.  I used the Fender teardrop heavies for awhile just before
    going to the Dunlop Jazz ones and they are not as good.  The jazz ones
    are more of a small rounded triangle kind of shape rather then the
    extremely pointed teardrop shape.  
    
    BTW, while I was in Las Vegas last week, I noticed another company
    (which I don't remember the name of) has Jazz shaped picks that look
    similar to the Dunlop ones.  Same hard plastic, but it came in some
    different colors.  I didn't get/use any.
    
    Greg

    I took some getting used to, but I swear by these little Sucrets now. 
    Picking came pretty easy, but playing chords with feeling came a little
    tougher.  And it was a fair test too ... I went to a local music store
    and bought 1 of EVERY pick they had .... cost me about $12 !  I got all
    of 'em in a wine glass and I've sampled all of 'em.  I keep drifting
    back to the Jazz III.
    
    Scary (who stil ain't fast ...)

    I can't find em!!!
    ;^(
    
    Buck, currently using Jazz IIs, which aren't as neat!

    
    	Scarymon - you too!?!  Can't believe it!  I bought mine at
    	J.B. Lee Music.  (803) 288-7841.

    Well all this talk about Jazz IIIs made me curious.  I bought a pair on
    Monday and I love them!  
    
    Arizona Music Center has lots of them! ;-)
    
    Mike

    
    I think I am going to invest in Jazz III stocks, its been hard 
      enough to find them for the past 3 years, now it's starting to
      sound like i'm going to have to look into the BLACK MARKET... B^)
    
                                                     Mark
    

    
    
    
    	Hey, I just saw some tear drop shaped picks at my local store, they
    were dunlops and even came in dbii-lime-green is that what you guys are
    calling jazz III?
    
    Jeeze, it's so hard to keep up!
    Steve

    Yo GRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrree Vee,
    
    Nein!  Dunlop Jazz IIIs ONLY come in Black and Red.  Or, at least they
    used to.  Dunlop makes a similar pick in tortex material, that comes in
    colors, but they feel different on the strings.
    
    House, did you say you saw colored J IIIs?
    
    When in doubt, look ON the pick, it says "Jazz III", or "Jazz II"
    or whatever!
    
    B.

    
    Oh sh*t, I might be using the wrong (and certainly uncool) JAZZ II'S!
    YIKES.  I *thought* the Dunlops I have were clear (thinnest) and then
    dark blue or black (fattest).  Luuucy, you got some 'splainin' to do...

     Steve,
    
    I don't think so, the only colors I have seen them in are
     red & black,but if they are they will say Jazz III right on them;
     If they are Jazz IIIs please post it, that would be a new-cool color.
    
                                                      Mark.

    
    
    
    	EEEEEEEE boy.. thanks for setting me straight buckeroo.  I'll check
    on em, but my hunch is (as with everything new, happenin and hip) the
    dog-sled hasn't arrived in Maine yet.
    
    <sigh>

    Steve, I know exactly what you saw since I have a handful of them at
    home!  Those are the medium gauge Dunlop Jazz Tortex picks.  Same shape
    as the Jazz II/IIIs, but a different material.  I used 'em for awhile,
    but liked the heavy ones (kind of a purple color) better and finally
    came back to the black Jazz IIIs.
    
    Greg

Make sure you get the black (or red) Dunlop Jazz IIIs.  I think the material is
real important here.  The size and shape can be duplicated, but the combination 
of size, shape, thickness, and material is what makes these work.

If you can't get a hold of them call Walt at Rice Music in Colorado Springs:

			(719) 634-3717

He can probably order a gross for you and ship 'em east.  Or, he can tell
you who his distributor is and you can go from there.  I doubt he'd want to
send 4 picks to you, but he might so you should ask.

If you only want *one* to try out, send me a SASE and I'll plop a genuine
Dunlop Jazz III (black) in the envelope and mail it back to you.

SASE to:

	Steve Jensen
	8145 Main Sail Ct
	Colorado Springs CO 90920

steve

    FWIW, I *believe* that there is a difference between the BLACK and
    RED Dunlop Jazz III picks!!!
    
    I remember getting a handful of both, and I believe that the black ones
    act as the thicker of the two...I thought the red Jazz III to be a tad
    more flexible...however, maybe I was just out of it?!
    
    B.

    I'm pretty sure the red jobs are Jazz II's.  I *tried* to use my ex old
    fav yellow Dunlop tonight, felt like a Fender thin !  
    
    Scary ... I ain't faster, just trendy ...   8^)

    
    Well, I checked it out and I've been using the Stubbies.  You know,
    I kinda like 'em tho'.  They come in 3 sizes (1.0=clear, 2.0=???,
    and 3.0=dark blue).  These really are throat lozenges.  I plan to 
    try out the jazzers this weekend (Thanks Jerry).
    
    -pat

    Both the Jazz IIs and Jazz IIIs come in black and red.

    For those of you reading Steves note a few back, Rice Music also has a
    toll free number you can call if you need.
    
    1-800-444-RICE
    
    They'll ship stuff and have great prices.
    
    Greg

    It's hard to believe there are 90 replies to the "Pick" topic.
    I never considered guitar picks to be that critical. For me, 
    as long as it's a heavy pick, I'm happy. Then again, I'm an
    old "Slow-hand" anyways.
    
    Mark
    

    Well Mark, this IS the 90s!
    ;^)

    I found Jazz IIIs at Cambridge Music, in Porter Square, Cambridge MA
    (don't park in the shopping center!).  They had em in both Basic Buckley
    Black and Rippin Red.
    
    They also had a bunch of the Swedish sharkfin picks, which are of
    course way cooler than the Dunlop copies.  But they're still not
    Jazz IIIs

   I found the elusive Jazz IIIs locally at the Music Factory in Manchester, 
   NH.  I assume their Salem store has 'em, too.

   Anyone wants one let me know;  $1 apiece.  (Just kidding...  :-))

   -- Sam

    
    
    
    
    	No, really, would anyoen be willing to drop one of these dudes in
    an envelope???  That's Steve Greve ASO/4AB.  I'd buy my own, but I
    can't find em'

    
    I will send you one greee veee, you will probably get it friday.
    
             Would you like red or black ?        ;^)
                                                           Mark

re: sharkfins

I used to have a zillion of them that I bought in Italy back when I was 
in the Navy..I haven't a clue what ever happened to them...

dbii

    There out there.  I got a � gross for Xmas.  Dunlop makes them in all
    your favorite colors.
    
    jc (Who loves 'em)

Got a bunch of them. They're OK, I guess. I find they lack something in the
tone department. It's difficult to get a sharp attack with them. I think it's
more important with the stuff I do. I've been using them for warmup. I'll have
the other guitarist try 'em out, he likes heavies.

I'm really sold on Fender Mediums. Best thing I ever did was chuck that thin.
Heavies feel numb. Without some kind of spring to it, I really can't "feel"
what I'm doing. This comes from a guitarist who likes his action high, as well.

							John.

    
    
    
    
    	Thanks, Mark... whataguy!!!  Color doesn't matter... I got a blue
    tortex sharkfin that came with a guit that I bought from a guy here,
    cool pick.. and great as a spatula at breakfast time.. Oh yeah, it was
    Rodney..  did you know that you packed a pick for me dude??

>Got a bunch of them. They're OK, I guess. I find they lack something in the
>tone department. 
    
    Really?  I think they have tons more tone than, say, you regular
    Fender.
    
    >It's difficult to get a sharp attack with them. 
    
    You're kidding, right?  This is what I LIKE about them.  That razor
    sharp point on the end, I can get mega articulation at hyper speeds,
    as well as harmonics of death!
    
    to each his own I guess....
    

    I've been using my Jazz III's for a week now.
    
    I don't care for the feel of them, their just too small for my big
    clumsy fingers.  But I do like the tone and picking action.  No good
    for pick slides, but great for that almost "plucked" sound.  Great
    for heavy mental.
    jc

    re: size
    
    they're just the right size to force you to properly hold the pick.
    
    Mike

    Properly holding the pick is what feels best to you, IMHO.
    
    jc (Who must not hold it properly.  ;)

re: .104

>    Properly holding the pick is what feels best to you, IMHO.
    
   Oh good, I'm not the only one...  :-)

   -- Sam

    RE: Coop
    >No good for pick slides, 
    
    I totally disagree...they're the ONLY pick I know that stand up to 
    pick slide after pick slide!!!  They never get those annoying little
    dents in them!
    

    No dents, but NOTHING sounds like a piece of junk fender thin for 
    those slide dude...Dents and all.
    
    FWIW - Sharkfins stink for slides too...All that tortex does.
    
    jc (Who likes the thrashy sound of the Sharkfins bumps 4 rhythm)

I'll separate these into two categories:

Lead: Obviously the heavies have a sharp attack. I find that with
my style, however, I like to hold the pick against the string and
maybe build some tension on it before I let it go. This makes it alot
easier for me to control dynamics and phrasing. The heavies make
a little clink sound when I use them for this. Not only this, but
I find I get a fatter sound out of a medium, which clears the
string quite easily. On fast runs it can be a bit clumsy because
of it's size. I have to be careful I have the pick positioned
properly.

Rhythm. More than one string and the heavies can really bog you
down in terms of attack. On accented chords, I like to flick my
wrist along with the finger movement to get a really sharp
attack. It took me a little while to get used to a medium for
doing this. This kind of attack is crucial for chords that only
use a few strings. When I play rhythm, I use all the joints in my
arm to squeeze in dynamics and a heavy requires too much
precision for this.

Alot of it really depends on your style.

I've been trying out these d'addario picks that are both small
and medium.  My lead playing already likes it. My rhythm is still
deciding.

                                                        John.

    
    Hey Gree v, did you receive your pick yet ?
                                  
                                                   JaZz (mark)
    

    
    
    
    	I dunno, I've been home batling the flu yesterday and today and
    haven't checked my mail yet Mark...  I'll probably see it tomorrow. 
    Yew are a credit to your gender for sending me a pick to try... I owe
    ya one, dude {;^)   <--- Gree Vee with flat top messed up cos he's
    sick!

    
    No problem...........
                          Good luck with the flu,         Mark.
    

re:    
    
>>    	Thanks, Mark... whataguy!!!  Color doesn't matter... I got a blue
>>    tortex sharkfin that came with a guit that I bought from a guy here,
>>    cool pick.. and great as a spatula at breakfast time.. Oh yeah, it was
>>    Rodney..  did you know that you packed a pick for me dude??

    Gee, Stevie, if I'd known that, I woulda charged you more. :-).
    
    Rodney_who_has_trouble_even_*holding*_a_flatpick

	You guys talked so much about the Dunlop Jazz picks, so I HAD
	to try them - went to the local store, and they had both Jazz1,
	2 and 3 - all in black. Them small tiny buggers seemed way too
	small for my clumsy fingers, bought 2 Jazz1s anyway, and -
	surprise, surprise - I PICK NOW WITH DOUBLE SPEED!!

	Poul

    Hey Paul
    
    Congrats, congrats!  Once you';re used to the little Jazz I's,
    try the Jazz IIIs, as they are pointier, and give even more
    focused attacj on the strings for fast picking!

    	I would use them if I could find them in my room!!
    		
    Pierre who recieved 2 from Mark Clement

    
    
    
    	Yeah, I keep trying those little buggers.. but I always go back to
    my monstrous tortex...  I get a hint of what could happen with them,
    but I can't control em'

    
    Anybody know where I can get Dean Markley picks?  I found one in my
    case one day and loved it.  Now I can't find them anywhere in Colorado
    Springs, and I can only guess that I got it back east, possibly at
    Acton Music or The Minor Chord.
    
    It's a .84 (mm?) thickness, kinda like the Gibson black heavy picks,
    just a little pointier with a nicely beveled edge.
    
    Anyone know where I can get some?
    
    Thanks,
    Charlie

    
    
     How about those Jazz III's !!!!!
    

    >Anybody know where I can get Dean Markley picks?  I found one in my
    >case one day and loved it.  Now I can't find them anywhere in Colorado
    >Springs, and I can only guess that I got it back east, possibly at
    >Acton Music or The Minor Chord.
    >It's a .84 (mm?) thickness, kinda like the Gibson black heavy picks,
    >just a little pointier with a nicely beveled edge.
    
    That's the pick I use almost all of the time these days. I had been
    using the medium thickness Dean Markley, but I've shifted up to the
    "blacks" because they've got more substance.
    
    >Anyone know where I can get some?
    
    Unfortunately, I'm also from "back east", as your pick may be. I
    generally buy them at Daddy's in Nashua, or at Acton music. I think the
    last time I stocked up I got them at Acton Music.
    
    - Ram

    Hi Charlie,
    
    I don't know if they have them in stock now, but Rice Music here in the
    Springs carries Dean Markley strings so they might also have their
    picks.  If they don't they will definately order them for you.  They
    special order a certain set of Dean Markley strings for one friend of
    mine and ordered Dunlop Jazz IIIs for Steve Jensen and I.  You may have
    to buy a half gross or something like that though, I'm not sure, but I
    am sure they'll give you a good price. 
    
    Greg

    RE: last 2
    
    Thanks, Greg; I did check out Rice a while back, and they could come pretty
    close to the shape with a Dunlop, but it was nylon (index finger on
    back of tongue here...).  However, I didn't talk to 'em about ordering.
    I don't mind buying in quantity; they disappear FAST.  
    
    Thanks, also, Ram, it must have been Acton Music where I got them. 
    Failing the Rice Music thing, I can still call a friend in Acton...
    
    Charlie

    They're usually really good about ordering stuff for you.  Only took a
    couple of weeks to get my Jazz IIIs and the price was great!  
    
    Greg (who also loses a lotta picks)

    
    Bill-and-the-Buck-Tones,
    
    	I've been using those Dunlop Jazz III picks for the last
    	2 months and I really like them. I've played with hard
    	picks before but never any that thick. I like the way
    	it grabs the string.
    
    	I also really like the textured surface where you hold
    	it. I hold the pick very lightly and I sometimes have 
    	a problem with the pick turning in my fingers or sliding
    	sideways if my hand sweats. These stay put.
    
    	Thanks,
    	Bob

    Speaking of Jazz IIIs, I noticed an ad in one of the guitar rags I got
    recently that described a pick Dunlop is now making.  I can't remember
    the name of it right now, but it looked like a Jazz III only thicker in
    the body and pointier along the edges to give a sharper attack.  The
    photo looked cool!
    
    If I didn't already have a half-gross of Jazz IIIs I'd probably check
    one out!
    
    Greg

    	Hey Greg, I remember seeing an announcement of Dunlop picks
    made out of ebony and other similiar materials,but they do make
    3mm thick picks called "stubbies" which are similiar in size to
    Jazz III's....
    

    
    	I have a variety of the stubbies.  I bought them by mistake when
    	searching to jazz III's  They come in different thicknesses
    	(measured in inches ;^)) <-- Hey look, a double chin!  Jerry
    	told me they looked like cough drops.
    
    	-pat

    I've got a red Jazz III that I've ben using for about 6 months.  When
    I'm not playing with it, I'm usually chewing on it.  Takes a lickin'
    and keeps on pickin'.  I used to like the black ones, but the red ones
    seem a *little* more flexable, which works out better for me 'cuz I'm
    heavy handed ...
    
    Scary

    I'VE FOUND MY IDEAL PICK!!! After years of messing around trying to
    find the perfect pick for my style,I was given one by a fellow Scottish
    noter,( thanx,Staynz) that I immediately felt right with.
    	It's made by "Pick Boy",and is 1.00mm *ceramic*!! It is Soooo
    clean,with just the right amount of rigidity.Up until now,my speed has
    always been limited by my right hand,but on trying this pick on my
    acoustic,I just took off.The major difference is,with it's lack of
    flexibility,the tip is always *exactly* where you want it after
    bouncing off one string to pick the next.
    	My wife noticed the difference straight off,as I switched from my
    previous favorite pick to the new one.The only worry is the side
    effects.Like,will it wear thro' my strings?
    	Now I've got to find a supplier,cos this one's tied to the guitar
    in case I lose it.                       

    re: Pickboy Ceramic
    
    I bought one of those when I was in Mass. last week.  Not because I
    liked it really, but I thought the idea of having a wierd ceramic pick
    was interesting.  I used it a little and liked it, but after having
    used the Jazz III picks for a couple of years now, I couldn't get used
    to the large size (ok, normal size, but it was big to me).  I just got
    it for the novelty value.  I did notice that it produced a good tone
    from Alan's acoustic that I was playing.
    
    I also picked up some of the Dunlop Stubby picks to see what they were
    like.  I got one of each of the different thicknesses (1mm, 2mm, 3mm). 
    The 3mm is totally unplayable for me, too thick.  I liked the 1mm, but
    it seemed to flex a little more then I like.  Plus it's clear, what
    kind of STUPID company makes a clear pick?  You can never find it if
    you drop it!  Anyway, I liked the 2mm the best of the bunch but it
    still seemed to flex or absorb the string vibration or something.  I
    got a lot stronger tone from Alan's acoustic with the Pickboy Ceramic
    then I could with any of these.
    
    Then I loaned the 2mm to Buck to play for a few minutes and he tore the
    damn thing up, so I guess it wasn't too sturdy!
    
    So to sum up my acessment, I'm staying with my old standby Dunlop Jazz
    III's.  The Stubbies felt good at first, but they didn't seem to have
    the rigidity I like in a pick and didn't make a good solid tone.
    
    Greg

This has probably already been covered, but I'll say it anyway...

Anyone ever use one of those stainless steel pics ??
I found one I'd had for a long time the other day cleaning up.
I forgot how much I liked it...

Shaped like a typical fender thin... And WHAT PIC SLIDES !!!

jc

    The stubbies felt ok, but they didn't have the grip qualities the
    Jazz III's do...I kept having to turn around the stubby, which I
    didn't like.  Also, the stubbies don't hold up well to pick
    slides, pinch harmonics, etc.
    
    Buck, staying with Jazz IIIs forever

     yeah coop I use those stainless picks all the time!!!!
    the plastic ones get eaten up in a day of playing,and
    the stainless ones can take bass string abuse with no
    ill effects forever....I just seem to LOSE them too
    much!!!!!!!!!
    -Bill

    re: Buck
    
    Yeah he says this after TRASHING my poor Stubbie!
    
    gh

    Re: -1
    
    I thought you two were only friends ;-)

    
    Well, If I could ever *find* any Jazz III's over hear I'd try them. At
    the moment I'm using plain old boring Fender Heavy gauge (okay, but they
    are bright pink).
    
    -Tony (droping subtling hints for some kind stateside noter to send me
           a pick!!!!)

    I was talking with old college bud Al Pitrelli last night, and I
    noticed he is using regular Fender-sized picks now!!  This is the 
    dude who turned me onto Jazz IIIs 7 years ago!  I asked him why the
    change, and he said while touring, he could never find any Jazz III
    picks in stores, so he swicthed back to a more conventional style pick
    for accessability.
    
    

    As I told Tony in Mail, I'll drop him a few Jazz IIIs.
    
    gh (who bought in quantity to get around the availability problem)

    As a long time Fender pick player, I never really considered anything
    else until a while back when this topic first mentioned the Jazz III.
    Well I did experiment some until I came across a pick a few weeks
    ago that works much better for me than anything else. I got hold of
    these Dunlop "Big Stubby" picks. They come in three guages, 1,2, & 3mm.
    They're the same triangular shape as the traditional Fender style
    however the edges are round beveled so that the string just slips off the
    pick. The middle of the pick has a round indentation where the Logo is
    so that you can get a grip on it.
    
    I use the 3 mm for my electric picking and the 1 mm for 6 string acoustic.
    For my twelve stringer I stay pretty much with a Fender thin or med
    pick for a clicking percussive effect as I play chords.
    
    Daddy's (among others I'm sure) these picks. Try one. For a half a buck
    at risk, you might be glad you did. It's definiteley made a difference
    in my playing.
    
    "sakman"
    

    We have anotehr Jazz III convert...Bill Salkewicz!

    yah,.. 
    
    its funny,.. when Bcuk first put that thing in my hands,.. oh,. about 6
    months ago I was like "no way" nad Buck was like "Cat,... way!"...
    
    I didn't like 'em ,.. like really I hated them..
    
    Now IN the last six months we've been working on my right (picking)
    hand technique a lot and I've really come a long way on it. Then
    last night I tried the thing again and it was practically love at first
    strum. If you really wanna shred,. I think this pick will help.
    If you want just get a xcertain tone with easy strumming,.. it
    might not be the thing for you,...
    
    But,. what was once bogus, is now roolin,.. and the world of guitar
    playing neurosis keeps-a-turnin' :-)
    
    						/Bill
    

    One thing I've noticed is that if you want to play real hard the Jazz
    III's are pretty uncomfortable.  If you get it with enough of the tip
    sticking out that you don't rip half your fingernails off on that big
    string smash, then you drop the thing.
    
    Greg (who's been keeping some Fender Extra Heavy's around for just such
          occasions)

    Greg,..
    
    	I take it you're talking about like big strums,. sort of in
    rythm guitar mode? If so,. yeah,.. I know exactly what you mean...
    
    	But with the right hand "stationary" (like with the pinky or
    wrist resting on the body/bridge somewhere) and just plucking single
    string leads,.. they're pretty cool...
    
    	Its up to each individual,.. and I think the style you're trying to
    play in will definitely affect your level of (dis)satisfaction with
    these,.. but if you haven't tried them,.. go for it...
    
    							/Bill
    

>    	I take it you're talking about like big strums,. sort of in
>    rythm guitar mode?                                                
 
    Zactly!   
    
    You're VERY right, the style of music has a lot to do with which pick
    I'll grab these days.  If I want to shread (or as close as my pathetic
    playing allows), I grab the Jazz III.  If I want to punk out, I grab a
    heavy Fender. 
    
    I have even been seen playing rhythm with a Fender pick and tossing it
    down and grabbing a Jazz III for a solo.  I'd probably never fly live
    though.  I could see it now, the stage is littered with picks, two
    different kinds...
    
    Greg

    Agreed...when I have attempted to thrash with the Jazz III, the only
    thing thrashed was my right hand!!  8^(
    
    for most lead and rhythm work, it suits me great.

It's a personal preference thing, but I think sharkfins RULE for 
thrash-metal speedie-rhythm stuff...  I like the bumpy side.
:)

    doooodes of the JIII persuasion. 
    
    These "big stubby" picks sound like
    they're the same thing as the JIII's, just standard size. I dunno for
    sure, I haven't seen any JIII's. But by the description of em it sounds
    like the same thing except these big stubbies are bigger thus allowing
    for chord work without chewing up your right hand. Check these out.
    
    "sakman" who has no financial interest in "big stubbies" ... just
    passin on some info.   

    I don't know about a "big" Stubbie, but I tried some of the regular
    Dunlop Stubbies awhile back and didn't like 'em.  They're a small
    shape, kind of like a Jazz III, but made of some kind of clear plastic
    material.  They felt weird and didn't hold up to picking abuse (by 
    Buck) very well...
    
    That's one thing I like about the Jazz III's, they're virtually
    indestructable!
    
    Greg

    Yeah, I have this clear Stubbie and I was wondering WTF I got it from?!
    
    Greg House!!  Now I remember!!  Anywho, the texture of them is
    different.  While I sort of liked the pointy tip for rhythm work, the
    smooth plastic made the pick move around in my hand, and I lost my
    control of it very quickly.  The JIII's are rougher and easier to hold
    onto and control (imho).
    
    Also, as gh said, you can pick slide tile the cows come home with a
    JIII and never get one of those 'string indents' in the plastic...I
    don't know what they're made of, but they last forever and ever!!
    try THAT with any other pick...
    
    
    Buck, who really likes the fact they never have those pesky grooves
    in the side for the strings to get caught in

    I can't remember if I entered something about this before...
    I tried the famed Jazz IIIs.  My big problem with them was
    their tone (now now, don't laugh!).  Yeah, I'm serious.  The
    Jazz IIIs sound kind of "muffled".  I couldn't get the same
    bright, sharp attack I'm used to.  Something about the material
    their made of, perhaps?  Maybe this isn't as noticable in a high
    gain rig, but with my Strat straight into an old tube Fender
    it was a real turn-off for me.
    
    /rick_who_thinks_the_Fender_Heavy_tone_is_roolin

    re: Rick C.
    
    They are a "jazz" pick...  I never noticed a huge loss of brightness
    when using them.  Probably 'cause lots of my rig is geared toward
    "bright".  But I was using Dunlop Tortex picks before, and these are
    fairly similar.
    
    Greg

    Greg, I hear ya.  I've tried the Dunlop Tortex too, and remember
    having a similar complaint with them.  I guess I have to go on record
    as a dedicated Fender Heavy man (straight tortoise, or white for
    those formal occasions).  I started using these because that's what
    I've used for years on bass, so I always had em around and they felt
    good in my hand.  I've tried a lot of other picks but nothing gets quite
    the same sound for me.
    
    /rick

    
    I tried the Jazz picks that were very kindly sent over to me (thanks
    dude) but I just keep going back to Fender mediums.
    
    Pick slides ? I use my finger nails on my right hand for that - they
    tend to be more resiliant than picks.
    
    -Tony

Has anyone tried "Teck Picks" ?

I've seen these advertised in Guitar Player. They are aluminium and appear
to be teflon coated, with a number of holes drilled through to increase
grip.
So far they are not available here in the UK, but the distributors
(J Hornby Skewes, Leeds) say they'll be in the shops in about a month.

I am interested in trying some of these. I currently use the very small
'teardrop' shaped Heavy picks (Gibson and Peavey mainly), but I find that
these wear out fairly quickly (my duff technique usually wears a hook shape
into the end of the point).
*DC

    I haven't tried the Tek picks, but they do look kind of interesting. 
    My only problem with a pick like that is that they are more costly then
    most picks and I have a tendancy to lose them.  However with the holes
    in 'em, I guess you could put 'em on a keychain or something to help
    prevent loss. 
    
    For a durable heavy teardrop shaped pick, I really like the Dunlop Jazz
    III's.  I've never worn one out (lost a bunch of 'em though).
    
    Greg

    I've wanted to try the tek picks too, and I will if I ever run across
    them in my local GTS store.  I want a blue one.  I've used metal picks
    before, but didn't like them.  They were kind of scratchy sounding.
    Now, if these things are highly polished (or coated with teflon), maybe
    that would make a difference.

    As for JIII's being a bit dull sounding.  That could be.  I've always
    associated brightness of a pick with the following (in no particular
    order):

        1. Thickness (at the point hitting the string)
                thick = dull    thin = bright
        2. Hardness
                soft = dull     hard = bright
        3. Smoothness (at the point hitting the string)
                smooth = dull   rough = bright (more easily generates
                                                harmonics)

    JIIIs are relatively thick and pretty smooth, which would tend to make
    them dull sounding.  You might try a small nail file or emery board on
    the pick to sharpen them up a bit.  That should make the pointy side a
    little thiner and the pick a little rougher.  And, if I'm not full of
    sh*t, should make the thing sound a bit brighter.

    steve

    re: Sharpening the end of a JIII
    
    I used to use a little sandpaper on mine to sharpen up the edge.  Made
    'em slide on the strings a little better.  I sort of gave up on doing
    it later though and just use them stock.  I think I remember reading
    that suggestion from someone in here.
    
    Greg

I've looked a the ad for Teck Picks again, and they're not
teflon coated, they're "anodised". (Also, I misspelled the name
before). Sorry for the misinformation.
*DC

    My JIII's seem to be sharpening themselves ??? 
    
    Seriously,.. the edges are getting thinnner as I learn to shred
    faster...???
    
    I'll never use one of those "big" picks again,... too much air
    resistance :-) :-)
    
    							/Bill
    

    Re: Bill
    
    Sounds like you better fix the angle you hold your pick at, dude!  I'm
    working on this.  A recent analysis by Stevie Jensen revealed this as a
    major flaw in my "technique".  Just in the few weeks I've been working
    on it, I'm finding that it's improving my tone and clarity of notes
    already. 
    
    /Greg

    re Greg,..
    
    	Could very well be,.. I'm still getting used to these little
    buggers,.. although every day I get more comfortable with them,..
    I really can't use a "big" pick now ,... so I hope in the long
    run these things work out for me,.. because I'll have to go back and
    learn how to use a big/regular pick all over again,...
    
    						/Bill
    

    
    You should be holding el picko parallel to the string, rest the palm
    heel of your hand on da bridge (fingers should not touch the guitar al
    la George Lynch) and the when picking, movement should NOT come from your 
    arm - thats what I was taught but I still can't pick quicker than a snails 
    pace !!
    
    -Tony (long live legato)

Pick preference.....

	I use English 10 pence pieces...the serated edge sounds great for 
blues!!!

If you prefer as smaller size then go for the "old" 5 pence.

As Julia Roberts said in "Pretty Woman"...."cash works for me..." !!!

Dave

    
    Works for Brian May too!

    I often find myself forgetting to stuff a pick in my pocket (as I only
    use a pick on one or two numbers that we do, and those seldom get
    called) so I often resort to whatever pocket change I have on hand,
    last night's gig it was a nickel.
    
    							Brian
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                       

    
    I quite like those Jazz III's after noodling with them recently, but I
    only own two (can't buy 'em in the UK). I have recurring nightmares
    of me getting my picking up to Frank Gambale speed and then losing all
    my picks and going back to Bah Bah Black Sheep!
    
    -T

    "It's Deja Vu all over again!" - The immortal Casey
    
    I went to visit a guitar playing buddy this weekend and we strap
    up and plug in and he says "Oh by the way, I've been experimenting
    with a different kind of pick and I really like them" and he hands
    me one.
    
    Yep. Jim Dunlop Jazz III!!!!!!!!

    
    
    Hey Tony,
    
    	you can get them over here, I got 50 of the buggers, ordered them
    through Modern Music (yuck!)
    
    
    	J

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>    
>    I quite like those Jazz III's after noodling with them recently, but I
>    only own two (can't buy 'em in the UK). I have recurring nightmares
>    of me getting my picking up to Frank Gambale speed and then losing all
>    my picks and going back to Bah Bah Black Sheep!
>    
>    -T
>
Actually, Tony, they are available in the U.K. It just seems that no one sells
them! I found a stash at Modern Music, in the Butts Centre in Reading. Just
goes to show that there is something good to be said for Reading after all. Not
only that, but they stocked them in black and hot pink!

Tim

    
    REALLY ??????
    
    Thats it - I'm off there this afternoon to purchase a bunch of them.
    
    Thanks guys.
    
    -Tony ( Hot pink, naturally 8^) ).

    Fyi & fwiw...Dunlop Jazz III picks come in to two fabulous colors...
    flat red and flat black!!

    Hot pink!
    
    I have yet to see them in anything but basic black,..
    
    I'd buy the pink/red ones if I saw them cuz the black ones are hard
    to find when they get dropped :-}
    
    							/Bill
    ]

    I've seen the red ones too.  Pretty ugly IMHO.  Plus they seem softer
    then the black ones.
    
    Greg

    
    I definitely prefer the slight flex of the red ones over the black
    ones.  

    Right, they're softer.  If you want more flex, but like black, get the
    Jazz II's or I's, they're progressively thinner with the same shape.  I
    used Jazz II's for awhile when I couldn't find the Jazz III's.
    
    Greg

    Yeah, Jazz IIs are ok when the IIIs are MIA, but I def prefer the 
    Black IIIs...ultra stiff...tres cool!

    
    I've been playing with a Dunlop Stubby 3mm purple job for a while, and
    I like it!  I'd be game to compare it with the Jazz 111 if some kind
    noter (Yo, Bill Salkewicz) would give me one to try!
    
    Kevin
    
     

    I tried the Stubbies awhile back and didn't like the material.  It's
    too soft.  I let Buck use it to play a couple of songs and he shreaded
    the edges of the thing...
    
    Greg

    re .176
    
    	I'm on my way over Kevin,..
    
    	Tonight I'll grab my stash of stubby's and you can have 'em
    
    							/Bill
    

    I've had a few packages of the copper picks... I think they're called
    "Hot Licks."  Got them previously at McDuffs but they haven't had any
    for quite some time.
    
    I've been looking high and low for these things for a while now.  Does
    anybody know where I can get them?  Or if you have a package, can you
    post the manufacturer info so I can contact them directly.  I seem to
    have an idea that they're local (northeast).
    
    							Marc