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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1975.0. "Stereo Mode Signal Processing" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Sep 21 1990 08:26

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1975.1one amp equals monoMILKWY::JACQUESYes, you do need a BoogieFri Sep 21 1990 13:4814
    
    If your amp is a Music man, then it is definately a mono amp, since
    that is all Music Man ever made. There is no way you can take advantage
    of the stereo capabilities of your processor unless you switch to a
    stereo amp, or use 2 mono amps. 
    
    An effects loop wouldn't buy you stereo capability. It would just give
    you a differant place to patch the effect in. 
    
    There is no harm in using the processor in mono, but you lose any stereo 
    imaging or panning that the effect processor produces. 
    
    Mark
    
1975.2CHEFS::DALLISONGot an AK47 for his best friendMon Sep 24 1990 09:065
    
    This is gonna sound veryy dumb, but I thought that unless you ran two
    amps and two cabs, you couldn't get a true stereo sound ?
    
    -Dumb of REO
1975.3they do existMILKWY::JACQUESYes, you do need a BoogieMon Sep 24 1990 12:3012
    There are a few combos on the market that do stereo. They have 2 
    separate power amps, and two speakers wired to individual channels.
    The fact that the speakers are so close together does tend to negate
    the stereo image, but it is still there, and these amps usually
    have extension speaker jacks which allow you to connect speakers
    with some separation.
    
    Of course, stereo imaging is great in the studio or at home, but in
    a live setting, it is generally lost in the mix anyways.
    
    Mark
    
1975.4DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDThe sea refuses no river....Mon Sep 24 1990 15:3611
re:
    Of course, stereo imaging is great in the studio or at home, but in
    a live setting, it is generally lost in the mix anyways.

With my Rivera (60w per channel) even using a single cab with 2 12" speakers
I find that the sound is fuller, obviously not stereo anyplace but directly 
in front of the cab, but much warmer and fuller than runnning the same
effects in mono through the same rig. Even when I'm accross a large stage
the fullness is noticable.

dbii
1975.5GLOWS::COCCOLIboycott Sinead O'ConnorMon Sep 24 1990 22:586
    
    
      re .0
    
      Yup.
    
1975.6stereo cabPNO::HEISERSmaq IraqFri Feb 01 1991 13:484
    Anyone ever try rewiring a 4x10 or 4x12 cab for stereo?  How is the
    separation?
    
    Mike
1975.7GSRC::COOPERMajor MIDI Rack Puke (tm)Fri Feb 01 1991 13:555
    I've done several and was always pleased with the results.
    You'll geta chance to see/hear one Sunday at my place.
    
    FWIW,
    jc
1975.8RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEPFC Rack Puke !Fri Feb 01 1991 13:564
    I did my Crate that way - BIG difference !  I mike it through the board
    at gigs and run it true stereo that way too ... BIG sound ..
    
    Scary
1975.9Stereo???BEEZER::FLOWERSI have a burning ambition...Mon Feb 11 1991 06:088
    
    A quick but probably stoopid question........the jack that goes
    into every 'lectric guitar that I have seen has always been mono....
    so how do you go 's t e r e o'?? Aint you just pumping a mono signal
    aross two cabs?????
    
    J. (who can play the lead to 'Hey you' and 'Mother' by
    Gilmour....Finally I'm getting somewhere!!!)
1975.10Stereo is funGSRC::COOPERMajor MIDI Rack Puke (tm)Mon Feb 11 1991 10:249
    Ah the magic of signal processing...
    
    See, your right.  You start with a mono signal, but almost all the FX
    processors out now will take that mono signal split it, and process
    left/right signals differently giving you    *s t e r e o*.
    
    jc - stereo advocate
    
    
1975.11not really what you wantUPWARD::HEISERchase the kangarooMon Feb 11 1991 11:184
    some folks (ART comes to mind) synthesize it by splitting the mono and
    sending one out of phase.
    
    Mike
1975.12Stereo Bass....SMURF::BENNETTMon Feb 11 1991 11:576
	I have a Rick 4001 that uses a 1/4" stereo plug. The neck
	pickup is on one channel, the bridge on another. I run the
	neck pickup into the bass channel of my Bassman and the
	bridge pickup into the normal channel. Nice sounds....

1975.13FREEBE::REAUMEMIDI + 12AX7 X 5 = BOOM!Mon Feb 11 1991 12:3710
      Stereo imaging can be done by the phase splitting as Mike mentioned.
    This is how you get that big fat chorus/flange sound. Other stereo
    imaging is done by varying the panning of the dry and delayed signals,
    can get pretty wild on multi-taps. I've never run in TRUE stereo, which
    would require two pickups and stereo outs, as mentioned in .12. 
    Check out a Yamaha APX Acoustic with the stereo out option where you
    can send alternate strings to a seperate amp. I've tried it and it
    does sound intense.
    
    						-B()()M-
1975.14Opinionated bastard speaks out on "stereo" efxDREGS::BLICKSTEINI'll have 2 all-u-can-eat plattersMon Feb 11 1991 14:1631
    A couple of random things:
    
    I tend not to like units, particularly chorus/flange units that achieve
    stereo by phase splitting.  W/O going through the mathematics of it,
    this tends to cancel out too many frequencies and to me sound
    very thin.  If you disagree, the first question I would always have
    to ask is if you've heard a true stereo chorus unit (like the RCE-10,
    or CE-300, or the ones built into the Roland Stereo Jazz Chorus amps)
    in stereo?
    
    I have a "stereo" guitar, but I've never understood why anyone would
    want one pickup panned to one side and the other pickup panned to
    the other side.
    
    I don't use the stereo that way.  In the past I've used the stereo 
    feature on my guitar mainly for channel switching.
    
    The bridge pickup went through one signal chain and the rhythm pickup
    went through a different signal chain.  Thus I could setup two sounds
    that would be entirely selectable from my guitar.
    
    Nowadays, when I'm not lazy and use my full rig, I do that channel
    switching from a pan pedal.
    
    In any case, I'm a big believer in stereo for small gigs and ALWAYS
    for recording.
    
    But frankly, I think a lot of stuff is out there "parading" around
    as "stereo" that shouldn't be.  However, most reverbs are stereo
    enough.  The things quasi-stereo generally is in the realm of the
    various delay efx.
1975.15stereo is more than the number of plugsSEDONA::HEISERsilence screamsMon Feb 11 1991 16:244
    DigiTech's processors do the right thing with having separate
    inputs/outputs for stereo.  I'm not sure how it is processed though.
    
    Mike