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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1932.0. "STEELY DAN GUITARISTS" by OSPREY::MONAGHANA (What this button for?) Fri Aug 10 1990 06:23

	I am currently trying to learn the lead guitar solo in Steely Dan's
"Bodhisattva", Anybody got any tips. The book I'm using is one of a series
'Doctor Licks' vol3.
			Alan.
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1932.1Play it again and again and again and again... etc.SALEM::ABATELLII don't need no stinkin' BoogieFri Aug 10 1990 10:0213
    Three basic steps:
    	1.) Listen to it (many times)
    	2.) Understand it
    	3.) Practice it
    
    Bodhisattva has a really cool solo in it. Skunk can play that bebop
    stuff ya know?
    
    		Have fun with it and DON'T GIVE UP!
    
    	
    Rock on,
    	Bebop Fred
1932.2slow it down.MILKWY::JACQUESIf you don't stop, you'll go deafFri Aug 10 1990 11:456
    If you have a tape reco recorder that allows you to slow it down, try
    doing that. Lowing it down allows you to pick out all the notes
    and learn it at slow speed. As you practice it, you can speed it
    up faster and faster until your at full speed.
    
    Mark
1932.3Singin' in the carISLNDS::KELLYMon Aug 13 1990 17:1812
    Listen to it until you can sing the solo, note for note.  I use
    commute time to-and-from work for this.  Then, play what you sing.
    
    If you have a reel-to-reel tape deck, record it at 7.5ips and play
    it back at 3.75ips...this will not only _severely_ slow it down,
    but keeps it in the same key.
    
    I find I learn little 'islands' of notes, which, with repetition,
    grow bigger until they start getting connected...eventually.
    Eventually can take a while ;^)
    
    Great solo...it really breathes!
1932.4What's the problem?DREGS::BLICKSTEINThis is your brain on UnixWed Aug 29 1990 17:213
    re: .0
    
    What are you having problems with?
1932.5Much to be thankful for !!MILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetWed Nov 21 1990 14:4744
    
	I'm *attempting* to learn the old SD tune "Black Friday" and
    I have 90% of the chords down, but there are a couple of chords
    I keep stumbling on.

	First of all, during the main parts of the verses, there is
    a chord being slid around, which centers on Em7. Can anyone tell
    me specifically what chord is being used, and where and how it's 
    fretted. They sound like the same chords used in another Dan tune,
    the one where they sing "I have never met Napolean, but I plan to
    find the time..."
    
	Basically the verses are all built around the Em7 chord, and
    when it get's to the bridge it jumps to A, from there is goes
    something like this

	     A	   G	  F#              G        D#m7   A/D   A/B
	When Black Friday comes I'm gonna stake my claim............
	I guess I'll change my name.
 
	I'm fine until I hit the D#m7 chord, then I lose it. The sheet
    music I have does not give the chord charts. My chord encyclopedia
    has many differant versions of the D#m7 chord, but none of them seem
    to work. My chord book does not show the A/D or A/B chord

	Steely Dan is probably my all-time favorite band, and one reason 
    is that their music is such a challenge. So much so that very few bands
    ever covered any of their stuff, even when they were at the peak of
    popularity in the '70's.
    
    	The SD tunes that I am familiar with playing include "With a gun",
    "Daddy don't live in NYC no more", and a few others, but the best SD
    tunes are tougheys to play, like "Kid Charlemagne", Boddhisatva, Black
    Friday, etc.
    
    	I read in interview in a magazine about a year or so ago with
    Walter Becker. In the interview Becker tells how each tune was
    recorded, who played the guitar solos, what type of instrument they
    used, and other very interesting details. I'll see if I can find the
    article this weekend. 
    
    	Have a great thanksgiving, everyone !!!!
    	Mark Jacques
    
1932.6WEFXEM::COTECan't touch this...Wed Nov 21 1990 16:013
    Try using F#/D# where your D#m7 lives...
    
    Edd
1932.7Becker taking the TriAxis to Europe...STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Fri Mar 31 1995 03:1715
    
         I remember reading in Musician magazine *some* time ago
    during the first summer tour they did that there would be a
    live CD(s) release in the future.  Well, it's been quite a
    while since I scanned the article and I believe they've 
    completed another tour of the U.S. and working on a European
    tour as well.  Still, no live CD release as far as I know.
    Anyone with any relative info?
         Also, while I'm here, I happened to catch the first
    summer tour here in the northeast.  Did anyone see their guitar
    player, Drew Zingg (sp?)?  This man was a show on his own.
    A truly intense player to say the least.
    
    Kev --