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1931.1 | try an open tuning | STAR::TPROULX | | Thu Aug 09 1990 10:13 | 11 |
| The way to do those one finger barre chords is to go to an
open tuning (unless you don't want to do that). I would say
that most people who play slide use an open tuning and wear
the slide all the time, but there's always exceptions. Whatever
feels right for you.
For starters, tune your guitar to an E major chord-(low to high)
E B E G# B E. If you barre the strings on any fret-presto! you've
got a major barre chord.
_Tom
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1931.2 | before someone nails me... | STAR::TPROULX | | Thu Aug 09 1990 10:15 | 6 |
| Ooopps, in my previous reply, I said that most slide players
wear their slide all the time. Well, they do remove the slide
for some things:-) Like when they're playing a song that has
no slide!
-Tom
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1931.3 | | ISLNDS::KELLY | | Thu Aug 09 1990 12:13 | 7 |
| Also depends on which finger totes the slide. I put it on my
pinky, so I can still play part...usually the top couple of notes...
of the chord. I usually play in standard tuning, becuase I don't
have a seperate guitar for slide.
Regards,
John K.
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1931.4 | Ouch, my toes! | TOOK::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Thu Aug 09 1990 13:23 | 12 |
| I usually put the slide on my ring finger, and when I'm playing slide I
generally leave it on for the whole song. I use my other fingers to
play chords and single notes as well when I'm using slide. You can
still barre a lot of chords, especially sevenths. It takes a little
practice to keep the slide out of the way while you do this.
I was at a jam last week where a guy played a slide solo. He pulled it
out of his shirt pocket when he was ready to start, and when he was
done he just flicked it across the stage! I don't really recommend this
approach :')
- Ram
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1931.5 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | The sea refuses no river.... | Thu Aug 09 1990 13:40 | 7 |
| I do ti both ways depending on the song, I prefer to keep the slide on for
the entire song but occasonally I do just wear it and PITCH it when I'm done.
dbii
sometimes finding it again is a hassle, and my glass ones don;t take as much
abuse...
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1931.6 | Fretting behind the slide? | FROST::SIMON | Birds can't row boats | Thu Aug 09 1990 17:04 | 21 |
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re: >sometimes finding it again is a hassle, and my glass ones don;t take as much
>abuse...
I do this sometimes too, but I try to do it only while seated and in
a room with a carpet. I broke my favorite slide (mateus wine bottle
neck) one day doing it on a cement garage floor.
Lots of times I'll just leave it on and either play partial chords
with the slide or with my fingers that are free. There are lots of
"pieces" of chords that you can play with the slide. Even full
major chords in standard tuning. (A bar across strings 2,3 and 4
will give you a major chord like a standard A chord played at the
second fret.
If you get good you can even do a little "fretting behind the slide".
This will allow you to play minor chords as well are more complex
chords. This will take some practice though.
_gary
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1931.7 | | LARVAE::BRIGGS | They use computers don't they? | Fri Aug 10 1990 08:43 | 8 |
| What about the guitar's action?
Should you have a flat fretboard? Should the action be adjusted high?
Or can you do a reasonable job with a standard guitar maybe tuned to an
open chord?
Richard
Basingstoke, UK
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1931.8 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Fri Aug 10 1990 09:24 | 11 |
| I have a brand new American Standard Strat, and the action is pretty
good. I have a real heavy hand anyway, so guitars with great action
are just a waste in my hands. 8^)
I might try the open tuning just for playing at home, but live I'll
have no choice but to keep it standard.
BTW - thanks for all these replies !!!
Scary (who will keep his slide on from start to finish on "slide"
tunes)
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1931.9 | | PNO::HEISER | boycott hell! | Fri Aug 10 1990 13:41 | 8 |
| > I might try the open tuning just for playing at home, but live I'll
> have no choice but to keep it standard.
Why can't you change tunings between songs? ;-)
I know people that can. ;-)
Mike
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1931.10 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Fri Aug 10 1990 14:05 | 5 |
| I have enough trouble with "tuning changes" now. This new guitar
doesn't have a locking nut (kind of a wild concept these days), so I'm
slowly getting used to tuning between songs anyway.
Scary
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1931.11 | Can you say "Floyd"? I thought ya could... | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | Give a little | Fri Aug 10 1990 14:46 | 1 |
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1931.12 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Fri Aug 10 1990 16:54 | 6 |
| Wot ?!?!?!?! No locking nut ?? Not even a locking tuning peg ??
A Fender that goes out of tune ? Impossible. ;)
Bahahahahahahahaaaa... Thanks for saying that Greg.
;)
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1931.13 | He's known as "quick draw"! | SALEM::ABATELLI | I don't need no stinkin' Boogie | Sat Aug 11 1990 13:31 | 18 |
| Tough situation... I've tried all sorts of things. Everything from
a shirt pocket, to leaving it � into a pants pocket to putting it
in my right hand so I could do some chords to just leaving it on
top of my amp and doing a "quick change/drop-off"... whew! What
a long winded guy huh? If I didn't have another guitar to have
tuned differently, I'd try every option except de-tuning the guitar.
Only because it takes too much time to get it back to pitch expecially
when the rest of the band is waiting for *you* to get your act
together.
I use my slide on my ring finger and dampen with my index and
middle fingers (just habit from the old pedal steel days). Try picking
with your fingers on your right hand instead of a pick and you may
find it better to dampen the strings you don't want to play. All
things considered... try everything and do what works best for
you.
Slide on,
Fred
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1931.14 | When is a slide a slide? | EMASS1::STILLWAGGON | Pete ,Formerly Famous 274-6404 | Sun Aug 12 1990 14:05 | 20 |
| <Use the one you're with>
You could avoid a lot of logistics by creating a slide out of
a harmonica (Satriani did this whilst opening for Bowie), or
grabbing an easily-detached whammy...
The good news is that you don't have to feel awkward trying to
position the slide. Naturally you do lose some of the sweetness
of a regular slide by using a stand-in.
Those with double cutaway's can also Velcro a bottleneck slide
in the upper cutaway and grab it anytime and replace it easily.
DON'T use Superglue on your '58 Strat, however.
I usually find a nice place to drop a slide after a solo, as my
hands get very confused if I play barre or complex chords after
the slide parts are done.
Seems like a good topic.
-Pete
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1931.15 | | PELKEY::PELKEY | Professional Hombre | Tue Aug 14 1990 10:50 | 7 |
| Well, here's another idea... I just dropped my slide onto the
lock pin for my boom stand. I'm usually an arms or twos reach
from my mike anyway, which puts the slide "RIGHT THERE" I just grab
it a few measuers prior to using it, and 'plink', drop it back
on it's roost when I'm done..
just another mans solution;
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1931.16 | Use a cup! It works for Bonnie Raitt!!! | SALEM::ABATELLI | I don't need no stinkin' Boogie | Wed Aug 15 1990 14:32 | 11 |
| Bonnie Raitt had an idea, in that she had a cup of some sort taped
to her microphone stand where she dropped off the slide when she
wasn't using it. I'm gonna try it. At least it's close to the mic
where you can save some time switching back and forth.
Fred (who gets confused switching between guitar and bass back to
guitar to slide to guitar, back to bass... make up my mind!)
;^)
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1931.17 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Love: the long road to pain | Tue Aug 21 1990 05:48 | 10 |
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This may not be the appropriate place to ask this, but does anybody
have any blues licks in standard tuning for slide ? I dabble a little
bit on the acoustic, mainly in Emaj tuning, but I'd like some in
standard, and the ones I'm coming up with sound a bit.... naff !!
Any kind noter fancy putting a couple in to help my little self out ?
Thanks for any help,
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1931.18 | Check out "note 28.0 - Slide guitar" | MUSTNG::ABATELLI | I don't need no stinkin' Boogie | Tue Aug 21 1990 09:23 | 7 |
| re: -.1
Check out note 28.0 of this conference. Lots of helpful hints for ya!
Have fun!
Fred
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1931.19 | a pointer | HAVASU::HEISER | Episcopal=PepsiCola spelled sideways | Fri Jun 07 1991 17:37 | 5 |
| I bought my first slide yesterday and am having a blast learning how to
use it. Arlen Roth's book on acoustic guitar has a couple pages of
stuff on slide work using standard tuning.
Mike
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