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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1884.0. "Do You do Stereo?" by POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA (Got my Mojo Working) Wed Jun 27 1990 22:28

    Boy, what a big difference it makes playing in Stereo!
    I recently played a Fusion gig where I was instructed to 
    plug into the P.A along with the other guitarists, keyboards
    and drums.At first I could'nt understand why anyone would want 
    me to play thru the P.A. cause I have a 100Watt amp that pumps.
    So I took the preamp out and put in into the board along with the
    other musicans, HOT, Red Hot sound the extra channel makes a drastic
    improvement in sound quality and also in the overall mix.
    From now on it's stereo guitar for me.
    
    
    L -- R
    
    Armen k.
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1884.1who wants gum? i do i doGLOWS::COCCOLIThis is your brain on SushiWed Jun 27 1990 22:3817
    
       Arrghh matie. I too stereo. 
    
      I run a midi rig (synths, basses drums and guitar) through my
    8 channel stereo mixer into a newly acquired 150 wpc QSC MX700 and
    out two Yamaha S115H's.
      Guitar sounds definately takes on a killing aspect in stereo.
    I also found I have much more control over feedback (the desirable
    kind).
       I'm using the Digitech MSP4 (similar to the DSP128+) and the
    multitaps are phenominal in stereo.
      
      I am also experiencing a 40% loss in my left ear.
     But what the hey......
    
    
    
1884.2Dynamic Spice!MFGMEM::DERRICOThu Jun 28 1990 09:026
       It also makes a humungous difference in recordings too! It makes
    the music so much more dynamically interesting. It keeps it from 
    sounding really really dead.
    
    
    J/
1884.3The kind of mono that makes me happyICS::BUCKLEYMarshallvergnugen!Thu Jun 28 1990 13:216
    	I *used* to do stereo...now I'm back to Mono, and I LOVE it!
    
    STereo was a nice feature, but all it did was make for myself to hear
    my nice stereo fx on stage...90% of the PAs I play thru are MONO, so
    it makes NO sense whatsoever to be playing in stereo in the Boston
    Club scene!
1884.4a useful tool in certain situations....ROYALT::BUSENBARKThu Jun 28 1990 13:4116
	For rock gigs I run stereo,with a 1 12 EV theile on the left and 
2 12's on the right where I am standing. This really helps to fill out the 
sound when only haveing 3 instrumental pieces.(Gtr,Bass and Drums) If there
was another guitarist I probably wouldn't bother,I'm not miked through a sound 
system and therefore have total control on my tone/sound/volume. I use light 
chorus effects where I want to make some sound changes to different parts of 
tunes. I don't hear the stereo effect but mostly hear the monural effect.
	It may seem like alot of hassle,but not really other than the extra
speaker cab,cable routing and the added weight of the power amp. Setup time
is a minimal impact and I'd probably use another 1 12 cab instead of the
2 12 cab if I had another.
	It's a nice sound...and works.....


							Rick

1884.5stereo is just alright with me !!MILKWY::JACQUESIf you don't stop, you'll go deafThu Jun 28 1990 15:5639
    I used to run in stereo, and still have the capability to do so.
    
    My stereo rig contisted of the following:
    
    I plugged my guitar into my late model Twin reverb. I then took the
    effect send and drove that into an Alesis MidiverbII. I took one
    of the outputs from the midiverbII and connected it to the efx return
    on the Twin. I then connected the other output of the MidiverbII to
    another Twin I had (I recently sold this second Twin). This setup
    worked great and I played this way a lot at home. By using the
    rig this way, I got all the differant tone possibilities of the
    Twin preamp (clean and distorted tones) and took advantage of the
    spectacular stereo efx of the MidiverbII. 
    
    I carried this entire rig to a couple of gigs and found that hauling
    the extra Twin around was a pain, and the stereo effect was lost in 
    the overall mix. I was about the only person able to enjoy the
    stereo effect. The extra Twin took up space in my small home studio,
    and maintainence of two tube amps is expensive. I was looking for
    a way to raise some bucks to buy two new guitars, so the old Twin
    hit the auction block. 
    
    I may eventually put together another rig with stereo capabilities.
    This would be consist of a rack, with a preamp, efx, a dual channel
    power amp, and two Mesa Boogie 1x12 cabs. In the mean time, I use
    my Alesis MidiverbII with my P.A. system,  (which is stereo or mono)
    and can also create stereo tracks on my multi-tracker.
    
    I also have a Boss DD3 stomp box digital delay. It has stereo outputs,
    but the way they configured it, the dry signal comes out one jack, and
    the wet signal comes out the other jack. There is no panning, or real
    stereo field generated by this box. The DD2 had true stereo outputs
    with a left and right output jack. I don't know why Boss changed to
    the present format. 
    
    Mark
    
    
    
1884.6Sounds funny, gumby....SMURF::BENNETTSilence == DeathThu Jun 28 1990 16:1710
	I was running 2 amps for a while in a stereo(ish) rig. Running
	the line out from my Champ12 into a volume pedal and a delay
	and then into the power amp in on the Super60. The volume pedal
	made for some severe dynamics. I gave up after chewing the first
	set of power tubes on the 60.

	I just bought an RP100 headphone amp with a line out that I'll
	be using to front end both amps as soon as I dredge up an insert
	cable.
1884.7For a fuller sound...FREMNT::HENDERSONFun with Flesh!Thu Jun 28 1990 20:0721
    
    
    		I have a pair of guitars that I run stereo quite
    	frequently. Both are Carvins, a DM-150 and a DC200 Koa.
    	The pickups are wired for stereo so I run each pickup 
    	through the effects I need and then to a seperate amp for
    	each pickup. This gives me a much wider range of tone 
    	variations since I can set up the amplifier EQ for each
    	pickup seperately. I do love the sounds I get with stereo,
    	especially when the amps are set up at opposite sides of 
    	the stage. The only set back, aside from lugging two combos
    	around, are the two cords running in opposite directions 
    	from the guitar to the amps. This keeps me from setting the
    	amps too far apart. And give me twice the opportunity to
    	get tangled in the guitar cords. It does make the sound 
    	alot fuller though.
    
    	Moving in stereo,
    	DonH
    
    
1884.8TCC::COOPERMIDI rack pukeTue Jul 17 1990 18:4014
    It all started with a GK250ML...
    
    Then I did stereo with a DSP128 and two Marshalls w/4x12's...
    Too much to move.
    
    Then I got the rack and the rest is history. 
    
    I love stereo guitar, and it adds a lot of presense to your 
    stage soound...Specially if your the only guitarist in the
    band...
    
    jc
    
    
1884.9Agagaga!COOKIE::G_HOUSENo, I'm very, very shy.Tue Jul 17 1990 19:049
    > I love stereo guitar, and it adds a lot of presense to your 
    > stage soound...Specially if your the only guitarist in the
    > band...
    
    Or the only *person* in your band, eh Coop?
    
    ];^)
    
    Greg   
1884.10Nyuk NyukSMURF::BENNETTTue Jul 17 1990 19:276
	And in the living room.....

	Bullet -> RP100 -> Vector Research (45wpc) -> Infinitys

	Does that qualify for Playing Stereo...
1884.11GLOWS::COCCOLIDon't have a man, cow.Wed Jul 18 1990 00:016
    
    
      Nope. It's got to be in a sleazy bar. =8^*>
    
    
    RichC
1884.12Call it indulging in oneself but...DREGS::BLICKSTEINThis is your brain on UnixFri Jul 20 1990 21:2519
    Well, for regular gigs I don't run in stereo because I like to keep
    an upper bound on what I carry around.
    
    But for special gigs I run in stereo.  My guitar is a stereo guitar
    (another Carvin DC200 Koa), but I don't use it that way.  The stereo
    is only for effects and mainly chorus at that.
    
    The audience probably doesn't get much stereo effect, and because of
    that originally I didn't bother.  But then I figured out that how
    well I play is partly a function of whether my guitar sounding
    is (pardon the hip phrasing but...) "happening".  That is, it first
    has to sound good to ME - THEN I'll worry about what the audience
    hears.
    
    I just come away from gigs a little happier if it sounded better
    to me - even if the audience didn't quite get the full stereo
    effect.
    
    	db
1884.13Hmm...food for thoughtCOOKIE::G_HOUSENo, I'm very, very shy.Mon Jul 23 1990 15:0612
    >The audience probably doesn't get much stereo effect, and because of
    >that originally I didn't bother.  But then I figured out that how
    >well I play is partly a function of whether my guitar sounding
    >is (pardon the hip phrasing but...) "happening".  That is, it first
    >has to sound good to ME - THEN I'll worry about what the audience
    >hears.
    
    VERY good point!  That's something I hadn't thought of in all my talk
    about how I didn't think stereo was necessary.  I know that for myself,
    if I don't like my guitar sound, my playing really goes to the dogs. 
    
    Greg 
1884.14DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDNice computers don't go downTue Jul 24 1990 09:026
    The audience doesn't hear my rig in stereo true but, they do hear the 
    result of stereo chorus etc. happening in the air and not in the mix.
    defintatly a warmer fuller kind of sound to my ear. And I'm the only 
    person who counts!
    
    dbii