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1884.1 | who wants gum? i do i do | GLOWS::COCCOLI | This is your brain on Sushi | Wed Jun 27 1990 22:38 | 17 |
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Arrghh matie. I too stereo.
I run a midi rig (synths, basses drums and guitar) through my
8 channel stereo mixer into a newly acquired 150 wpc QSC MX700 and
out two Yamaha S115H's.
Guitar sounds definately takes on a killing aspect in stereo.
I also found I have much more control over feedback (the desirable
kind).
I'm using the Digitech MSP4 (similar to the DSP128+) and the
multitaps are phenominal in stereo.
I am also experiencing a 40% loss in my left ear.
But what the hey......
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1884.2 | Dynamic Spice! | MFGMEM::DERRICO | | Thu Jun 28 1990 09:02 | 6 |
| It also makes a humungous difference in recordings too! It makes
the music so much more dynamically interesting. It keeps it from
sounding really really dead.
J/
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1884.3 | The kind of mono that makes me happy | ICS::BUCKLEY | Marshallvergnugen! | Thu Jun 28 1990 13:21 | 6 |
| I *used* to do stereo...now I'm back to Mono, and I LOVE it!
STereo was a nice feature, but all it did was make for myself to hear
my nice stereo fx on stage...90% of the PAs I play thru are MONO, so
it makes NO sense whatsoever to be playing in stereo in the Boston
Club scene!
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1884.4 | a useful tool in certain situations.... | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Thu Jun 28 1990 13:41 | 16 |
| For rock gigs I run stereo,with a 1 12 EV theile on the left and
2 12's on the right where I am standing. This really helps to fill out the
sound when only haveing 3 instrumental pieces.(Gtr,Bass and Drums) If there
was another guitarist I probably wouldn't bother,I'm not miked through a sound
system and therefore have total control on my tone/sound/volume. I use light
chorus effects where I want to make some sound changes to different parts of
tunes. I don't hear the stereo effect but mostly hear the monural effect.
It may seem like alot of hassle,but not really other than the extra
speaker cab,cable routing and the added weight of the power amp. Setup time
is a minimal impact and I'd probably use another 1 12 cab instead of the
2 12 cab if I had another.
It's a nice sound...and works.....
Rick
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1884.5 | stereo is just alright with me !! | MILKWY::JACQUES | If you don't stop, you'll go deaf | Thu Jun 28 1990 15:56 | 39 |
| I used to run in stereo, and still have the capability to do so.
My stereo rig contisted of the following:
I plugged my guitar into my late model Twin reverb. I then took the
effect send and drove that into an Alesis MidiverbII. I took one
of the outputs from the midiverbII and connected it to the efx return
on the Twin. I then connected the other output of the MidiverbII to
another Twin I had (I recently sold this second Twin). This setup
worked great and I played this way a lot at home. By using the
rig this way, I got all the differant tone possibilities of the
Twin preamp (clean and distorted tones) and took advantage of the
spectacular stereo efx of the MidiverbII.
I carried this entire rig to a couple of gigs and found that hauling
the extra Twin around was a pain, and the stereo effect was lost in
the overall mix. I was about the only person able to enjoy the
stereo effect. The extra Twin took up space in my small home studio,
and maintainence of two tube amps is expensive. I was looking for
a way to raise some bucks to buy two new guitars, so the old Twin
hit the auction block.
I may eventually put together another rig with stereo capabilities.
This would be consist of a rack, with a preamp, efx, a dual channel
power amp, and two Mesa Boogie 1x12 cabs. In the mean time, I use
my Alesis MidiverbII with my P.A. system, (which is stereo or mono)
and can also create stereo tracks on my multi-tracker.
I also have a Boss DD3 stomp box digital delay. It has stereo outputs,
but the way they configured it, the dry signal comes out one jack, and
the wet signal comes out the other jack. There is no panning, or real
stereo field generated by this box. The DD2 had true stereo outputs
with a left and right output jack. I don't know why Boss changed to
the present format.
Mark
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1884.6 | Sounds funny, gumby.... | SMURF::BENNETT | Silence == Death | Thu Jun 28 1990 16:17 | 10 |
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I was running 2 amps for a while in a stereo(ish) rig. Running
the line out from my Champ12 into a volume pedal and a delay
and then into the power amp in on the Super60. The volume pedal
made for some severe dynamics. I gave up after chewing the first
set of power tubes on the 60.
I just bought an RP100 headphone amp with a line out that I'll
be using to front end both amps as soon as I dredge up an insert
cable.
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1884.7 | For a fuller sound... | FREMNT::HENDERSON | Fun with Flesh! | Thu Jun 28 1990 20:07 | 21 |
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I have a pair of guitars that I run stereo quite
frequently. Both are Carvins, a DM-150 and a DC200 Koa.
The pickups are wired for stereo so I run each pickup
through the effects I need and then to a seperate amp for
each pickup. This gives me a much wider range of tone
variations since I can set up the amplifier EQ for each
pickup seperately. I do love the sounds I get with stereo,
especially when the amps are set up at opposite sides of
the stage. The only set back, aside from lugging two combos
around, are the two cords running in opposite directions
from the guitar to the amps. This keeps me from setting the
amps too far apart. And give me twice the opportunity to
get tangled in the guitar cords. It does make the sound
alot fuller though.
Moving in stereo,
DonH
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1884.8 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Tue Jul 17 1990 18:40 | 14 |
| It all started with a GK250ML...
Then I did stereo with a DSP128 and two Marshalls w/4x12's...
Too much to move.
Then I got the rack and the rest is history.
I love stereo guitar, and it adds a lot of presense to your
stage soound...Specially if your the only guitarist in the
band...
jc
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1884.9 | Agagaga! | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | No, I'm very, very shy. | Tue Jul 17 1990 19:04 | 9 |
| > I love stereo guitar, and it adds a lot of presense to your
> stage soound...Specially if your the only guitarist in the
> band...
Or the only *person* in your band, eh Coop?
];^)
Greg
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1884.10 | Nyuk Nyuk | SMURF::BENNETT | | Tue Jul 17 1990 19:27 | 6 |
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And in the living room.....
Bullet -> RP100 -> Vector Research (45wpc) -> Infinitys
Does that qualify for Playing Stereo...
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1884.11 | | GLOWS::COCCOLI | Don't have a man, cow. | Wed Jul 18 1990 00:01 | 6 |
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Nope. It's got to be in a sleazy bar. =8^*>
RichC
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1884.12 | Call it indulging in oneself but... | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | This is your brain on Unix | Fri Jul 20 1990 21:25 | 19 |
| Well, for regular gigs I don't run in stereo because I like to keep
an upper bound on what I carry around.
But for special gigs I run in stereo. My guitar is a stereo guitar
(another Carvin DC200 Koa), but I don't use it that way. The stereo
is only for effects and mainly chorus at that.
The audience probably doesn't get much stereo effect, and because of
that originally I didn't bother. But then I figured out that how
well I play is partly a function of whether my guitar sounding
is (pardon the hip phrasing but...) "happening". That is, it first
has to sound good to ME - THEN I'll worry about what the audience
hears.
I just come away from gigs a little happier if it sounded better
to me - even if the audience didn't quite get the full stereo
effect.
db
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1884.13 | Hmm...food for thought | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | No, I'm very, very shy. | Mon Jul 23 1990 15:06 | 12 |
| >The audience probably doesn't get much stereo effect, and because of
>that originally I didn't bother. But then I figured out that how
>well I play is partly a function of whether my guitar sounding
>is (pardon the hip phrasing but...) "happening". That is, it first
>has to sound good to ME - THEN I'll worry about what the audience
>hears.
VERY good point! That's something I hadn't thought of in all my talk
about how I didn't think stereo was necessary. I know that for myself,
if I don't like my guitar sound, my playing really goes to the dogs.
Greg
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1884.14 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | Nice computers don't go down | Tue Jul 24 1990 09:02 | 6 |
| The audience doesn't hear my rig in stereo true but, they do hear the
result of stereo chorus etc. happening in the air and not in the mix.
defintatly a warmer fuller kind of sound to my ear. And I'm the only
person who counts!
dbii
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